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[Leney]

I'm conflicted with Yaoi myself.

On one hand, I get irked when I see people spaz out over Yaoi, liek "OMG my fic not Yaoi, all the characters are straight straight straight!" because 90% of the time it reads like aversive homophobia, basically "Yes, I'd rather stay in my heteronormative bubble of privlege where gay people do not exist, tra la la!"

But at the same time, I don't automatically assume that everyone who writes Yaoi is pro-homosexuality or anything. In fact I think that a good number of people are just fetishizing the whole thing which is just as bad as being homophobic. I'd love to hear a gay person's take on slash fiction, really. *decides to google it*

Like someone said, it's the equivalent of guys who get off on two girls going at it. They think it's hot, but do the really agree with it? Not really.

But getting off that note, I remember reading on fanficrants, that someone commented that Yaoi was basically the only way she could ship in fandom, because Anime lacks strong and/or likeable females. You either have the man haters or you have the wimpy shy girls. No inbetween.

I don't usually feel that's the case, but then again I read a lot of shoujo manga (which has its share of problems, but for the most part the girls are not doormats and likeable) and the girl listed a bunch of shonen series. I can see what she's talking about.

[Chidori Mistress]

Those statistics look dodgy.
But yes, Yaoi is extremely popular.
The most popular pairings in Japan are yaoi ones.

Well, I think some girls like it for the same reasons guys like two girls.
However, I don't like it.

[Cloud]

EW. Yaoi...

Dont even remind me. I dunno why straight guys read that crap.

[SakuDotz]

I don't like it either. Honestly, it's not even that attractive to me.

[Wilson]

Yaoi...isn't really that popular...well, some write those to get popularity for their fanfics. Some just dun mind...I guess. Hmmm....

[Shouri no Hana]

“If I was gay, my brother would be dancing around out there in a pink rabbit suit!”
Sasuke

Anyway, I can stand boys love, in fact it can actually put me to sleep as well, but you'll still have to pay me to read anything SasuNaru/NaruSasu (would Sasuke be the seme or the uke? )

Hrm... my friend is a huge fan of hardcore Yaoi, but I tend to stay low with the settle stuff, a little soft yuri as well.

I go to an all girls school... my friend was asked if she and her other friend were a couple 4 times....

[Iden]

The fact that it's Yaoi doesn't bother me... Most of the time it's mindless drivel. Like, "Sasuke is a gay male dancer in New York, Naruto isn't gay. But why does he find the Uchiha so appealing?" is the most common type of Sasu/Naru story out there. I personally don't like AU fics if there not in the actual Naruto world. In addition to this, there is essentially no foundation for Sasu/Naru... Sigh... But I guess that's why it's called fanfiction...

I know what you mean. There's this crud about MPREG ( I mean what the heck?) and other really unnessacary stuff like that. I doubt there's hardly any well done yaoi fics out there.

[Vyse]

I don't think the yaoi in itself makes a bad story, since pairings seldom wreck the story itself. I'm sure even yaoi writers can come up with an awesome plotline, but the pairing is a bigger plot drive in yaoi stories than we are used to (I think). I reckon yaoi stories are more "romantic" (in a scary buttsecks kinda way.. *shudders*). I'm not sure what to say though... Yaoi still scares me, and the fact that its so popular is disturbing. But whatever floats your boat!

[Shana]

According to Google Trends:

Team 7 pairings

1. SasuNaru
2. SasuSaku
3. NaruSaku
4. NaruSasu

So, SasuNaru is more popular than SasuSaku according to Google.

Plus, Yaoi/Yuri is just not my thing. No offense.

[Wilson]

I really dun see the diff between sasuNaru and Narusasu. Same thing anyway. Who cares who's the dominant one? Weird....

And come on, not even one SakuNaru????

[blindeye]

I just did a google search.

1) SasuSaku/SakuSasu 615,500
2) SasuNaru/NaruSasu 590,000
3) NaruHina/HinaNaru 496,600
4) NaruSaku/SakuNaru 339,000

SasuSaku beats out SasuNaru... hmmm Those results were opposite a while ago.


Im against Yaoi and Yuri. I dont like ethier of them.

But SasuNaru fans kinda makes sense. Although the kiss was accidental, its still there. And Naruto ALWAYS talks about getting Sasuke back. ALWAYS. One could argue that its more than brotherly bonds, and some have.

Im totally against it, but there is some actual reason behind their fan base. I think its crazy and REALLY reaching, but they do have a little reason.

[Wilson]

Getting someone close to you back isn't love...

For orphans, best friends can sometimes act as brothers. Come on, even for us with parents, u and ur friends can treat each other as siblings or sth.

Just basing it on that is nonsensical. And man, still not believing that NaruSasu has that many stuff... DX

[blindeye]

Getting someone close to you back isn't love...

For orphans, best friends can sometimes act as brothers. Come on, even for us with parents, u and ur friends can treat each other as siblings or sth.

Just basing it on that is nonsensical. And man, still not believing that NaruSasu has that many stuff... DX

I agree with you. But Im just pointing out that SasuNaru fans arent just on crack. They eat some veggies too!

[Leney]

I really dun see the diff between sasuNaru and Narusasu. Same thing anyway. Who cares who's the dominant one? Weird....

And come on, not even one SakuNaru????

I've read NaruSasu and I think I prefer it because you won't find some weird characters taking the place of Naruto or Sasuke. Naruto just happens to be the one who tops. Everything else is generally IC.

But a lot of the SasuNaru I've read, feature Super Uke Naruto. Physically feminine, emotionally unstable and highly rapeable. Bleh!

Although one of my favorite fics is The Ultimate Uke Syndrome, lol. Actually rosesareblue writes a lot of good SasuNaru.

[Manda]

The fact that it's Yaoi doesn't bother me... Most of the time it's mindless drivel. Like, "Sasuke is a gay male dancer in New York, Naruto isn't gay. But why does he find the Uchiha so appealing?" is the most common type of Sasu/Naru story out there. I personally don't like AU fics if there not in the actual Naruto world. In addition to this, there is essentially no foundation for Sasu/Naru... Sigh... But I guess that's why it's called fanfiction...

They shared a history even before Team 7 was formed.


Technically speaking, that did start their foundation, but I personally think that led them into having their strong bond/brotherhood. I never saw that as anything romantic either. I even go out of my way to avoid the SasuNaru fandom, mainly because yaoi is not my my cup of tea, and I find the fans kind of rabid. ^^;; But I guess thats only the n00bs, though. One of my best friends is an avid SasuNaru shipper, but she stated on her shrine for them that she's strongly passionate about their brotherhood and their rivlary interaction too. Thats why I have a lot of respect for her. She's the only mature SasuNaru fan I've seen. If anybody else can provide me with actual, legitimate reasons why they like SasuNaru instead of, "ZOMG SASUNARU ISH TEH HOTNESS!!!!11!!shift+one!!!!" then maybe I'll change my mind about the fandom in general.


As for the reason why yaoi is so popular, I guess its because the majority of the fanbase are girls, and they see pretty boys and sexy bishounen rivlaries, fights or interaction, so they automatically pair them up together because of that. Thats just how I see it though, I could be wrong. :/


(OT: Wow, my first actual discussion post here. XD; *hides*)

[Shouri no Hana]

well I made a horrible error.

I'm fine with Boy's Love, can't stand Yaoi.

The thing is, some has to be Seme the other has to be Uke, generally Naruto is the Uke, however. From my view, Naruto isn't the type to be the uke, neither is Sasuke.

Thus it's a SemeSeme pairing to me.

Some SasuNaru/NaruSasu fans are out there for the light Boys Love, not the hardcore Yaoi, there is a difference.

[Wilson]

I'm kinda disturbed that some would portray Naruto as a "highly rapeable" guy... it's just wrong....

[whoamii]

Ehh, I don't get it...but it seems as if some people really get kicks from this kind of stuff...not that I have anything against it. Be kinky...or whatever...I'm not joining that statistic though...

[Wilson]

Ehh, I don't get it...but it seems as if some people really get kicks from this kind of stuff...not that I have anything against it. Be kinky...or whatever...I'm not joining that statistic though...

I agree. But yeah...i'm not participating in that...

[whoamii]

We should be best friends, Wilson. LOL. We agree on a lot of subjects =]