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[sushi.]

I saw the original poster's talking about it. The link sounds a bit misleading, I'll see if I can find the OPs. But I know kirabook and slextrem were in on it. They just wanted to edit captions from previous naruto episodes and make an ongoing plot out of it. Nothing official. Copyright wont be an issue, as it isnt any more illegal than a fanart.

You guys gotta chill, it's not like they were planning on making a contract with dreamworks or anything..

[Phantom_999]

1 year actually and Naruto still doesn't have an ending because they are still making a series where they keep producing more kitten. So the better question you need to ask is...if the Naruto ending already occurred...WHY ARE THE STUDIOS KEEP GOING WITH IT?

Why call it "Naruto the Last" when it isn't?

No one cares about Bolt...no one wants to care about Bolt...so why keep going with it?

My questions is, why do all the kitten anime keep going on and on and on and manage to get all this massive budget, but good anime like Overlord, One Punch Man, and the like can't get a second season? Why do they just stop after one season?

I am sick of Naruto, Bleach, Dragonball Z, One Piece, and the like. They are not good anymore, but they keep going and going.

 

cause it ain't making profits.......... and I'm GLAD about it!!!!!!!!!!    

 

I mean seriously. Think about it. If Narutard was such a success why won't they just put it down for for the time being and just wait till a later date to produce more media and merchandise for it? Like look at all the BIG and SUCCESSFUL series here just ending when they end and waited about a decade or so to reignite the interest in the series, Dragon Ball being the biggest example. Saint Seiya too now that I'm officially into the series (thanks again to my good friend Liu bie). Or Rurouni Kenshin. the Live action films and Kyoto Arc reboot ovas were recent releases right? And also the "To Rule Flame" manga one shot focusing on Shishio. so I say just let them continue this kitten, it just shows what idiots they are to go along with Hinatafantards and think NaruHina and SasuSaku would rake in the dough for them and that it is okay to destroy the entire theme and premise of the story with a pathetically depressing and passionate-less ending that we got. And NOW that they think that they could win back the fans they alienated and drove away by making a F&^%#!* hetero NarSasu pairing with a dash of sakura's DNA in in the mix? Give me a break. AGAIN. Plus some migraine medication    for even thinking about this kitten series

Edited by Phantom_999, 03 January 2016 - 10:48 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

As long as it make money, they will still produce any naruto relate content.
Naruto fandom care.

But it is not really making money....How much money is this franchise really pulling in now? They won't say. i want proof this franchise is really making a profit.  How does this kitten make money unless it just comes down to "Make everything really cheap and as long as we make a double back in profit, we keep going."

This makes me question A LOT like why the hell do 80% of the fandom keep buying this kitten despite saying how much they suck? Why do you keep buying all the games....all the keychains....all the garbage when you know it is all crap? Yeah I bought some Naruto stuff too, but that was back BEFORE the ending occurred. Some of you are still buying this stuff pretending like it is okay. I haven't bought a single Naruto product since the ending. Not one thing. I bought a kitten ton of One Punch Man stuff because I want them to make a second season.

So when you ask , Dalton.T.R, why do I still hate ending and complain about it? Well why do people keep buying this garbage? The moment that the fans stop buying the crap, and franchise just drops dead...THEN I will move one. When the entire world moves on from Naruto...then I will move on myself. Until then, as long as you all keep buying that garbage, I will still complain about it.

People ask why I haven't moved on and I reply...well, why hasn't anyone else? Why do you keep chucking money at it because apparently this series is making so much money, they can keep going and want to suck you all dry...and everyone who buys any of it are the reason why the kitten keeps going.

No wonder we keep getting garbage anime, but noone apparently wants to invest in the good stuff.
 

Edited by James S Cassidy, 03 January 2016 - 10:47 PM.

[rocci]

@james
While it's true we'll never know the exact number, they are truly making profit since manga business is profitable. Well something along that line. As long as you're popular, you will make money.

Why they buy it? Because they like it. It's that simple.
They're still many who like it because it's popular.

Oh and onepiece has quality.

None want to invest good stuff because there are no guarantee it will give them profit. This is business.

[Moon_Girl]

I'd love to see something like that. I mean, it wouldn't be the same (voice actor-wise) but it'd be cool if it caught Kishimoto's attention. At least letting him know how passionate we were about the ending and how bad it turned out. I hope it's not 100% focused on NaruSaku, though. I mean, yeah their relationship should be a highlight. But it should also just be a better ending. One that would blow Kishimoto's/SP's out of the water.

 

 

Naruto and Sakura meeting in Disney, Naruto wins Sakura a stuffed animal, Sakura hates the animal, Sakura sends Naruto to the moon, Sakura has to pay NASA to bring Naruto back, Naruto says something that ticks Sakura off, Sakura sends Naruto back to the moon, Sakura has to pay NASA to bring Naruto back again, Naruto still doesn't learn his lesson, NASA gives Sakura a reusable rocket for her birthday. 

 

BAM! Plot!

 

Still a million times better than "The Last" and the Burrito Movie. 

[James S Cassidy]

@james
While it's true we'll never know the exact number, they are truly making profit since manga business is profitable. Well something along that line. As long as you're popular, you will make money.

Why they buy it? Because they like it. It's that simple.
They're still many who like it because it's popular.

Oh and onepiece has quality.

None want to invest good stuff because there are no guarantee it will give them profit. This is business.

What about One Punch Man? One Punch Man has recently been getting a lot of popularity and people are loving it, but you're going to tell me that a fan would rather by this kitten Bolt stuff than one piece of epic One Punch Man Stuff?

This is what is confusing me. I see people brag about "This series is great...this series is underrated....this series needs more support," but then these same people would rather invest all their money in a kitten lackluster anime than what they deem is good stuff. So in essence...THE FANS ARE THE kittening PROBLEM because you don't know what the hell you want. The biggest bunch of hypocrites I have EVER SEEN in my entire life are the ones that say something is so garbage, but then buy it anyway because....why? There is no reason.

So thanks rocci, you have proven you me that every single person wanted this kitten ending because you all keep buying it. Thanks.

What next? You all are going to complain how Trump is the biggest racist, fascists, and radical man on the planet, but you all are gonna vote for him anyway?

 

None want to invest good stuff because there are no guarantee it will give them profit. This is business.

No, that is the delusion that WE THE FANS give these corporations. You have just proven it to me.

When watching interviews about One Punch Man and it's anime production, many fans thought that the production teams spent a lot to make the anime great, but that wasn't the case. They said that the production cost was exactly the same as any other anime production, but the people behind it had so much passion for the series, they put their entire heart in it.

Not only that, but the same production team did Bolt the Movie which we know had a far bigger budget than One Punch Man. So an anime which has a lower budget than a anime movie had higher quality than an anime movie with the same production team for a tenth of the price all because that production team had passion for the series they worked on and you guys really want to put more money into Bolt?

It goes even farther when you notice OPM and then you look at Naruto the anime series and think if they both have the same budget...it shows even more how SP just does things as cheap as possible because Naruto doesn't make money at all. OPM Madhouse only cuts corners because they want to invest more time in other scenes, but the fight scenes never dwindle. SP on the other hand cuts corners because they are hurting for money apparently and Naruto is the only thing they got going for it.

Then you all got the ending you deserved. You all deserved to be disappointed, because you disappointed yourself by supporting it non-stop. You kept supporting garbage and now you all get is garbage because that is exactly what they think you want. Sorry, you guys are not fans if you really feel this way. ( And I am not talking about before the ending, I am talking after the ending came out and even now months down the road.)

This...this is just disgusting. I am now ashamed to have ever been a part of this fandom if people truly are like this. You all did it. You all keep throwing money at it and then you wonder why they continue it. Because you guys just don't care what these studios do anymore. You really don't care...so yeah, but that Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm triple XXX garbage fest or whatever it is. Keep telling them that you want to see your characters raped even more and see them become even more worthless and pathetic. Yeah...Sakura fans love seeing Sakura being turned into a stockholm syndrome pathetic female sexism representative. Yeah, We all want to be like Naruto...beat his kids and don't give them attention because he feels it is a sort of punishment. Yeah Yeah...ladies, be like Hinata who is a stalker and a whore who creepily spies on the man she wants to ride....good going girls and guys....I thought society was moving forward from this viewpoint of weak women and uncaring men, but I guess this is what they truly want because we keep throwing money at it.

God, it's like....it's like seeing a little kid keep sticking a fork in a light socket and then wonder why they keep getting shocked...Do people not learn anymore? Stop putting the fork in the socket if you don't want to be shocked.

And I am enjoying One Punch Man and Overlord wondering how the hell people are so stupid not to see good stuff right in front of them only to realize that people are so blind and so stupid that they really wouldn't know good anime if it sat on their face. What makes me laugh the most...I used to be just like these people.

Maybe it is good thing Naruto ended as it did because now we really see the difference between fans who only watch anime to get off on their fantasies vs people who want to watch interesting stories unfold on their favorite TV shows.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 04 January 2016 - 12:08 AM.

[DeathGodMack]

Anyway back to the movie and how people want something like this. This is separate from what Kirabook was doing i believe.

[Dalton.T.R]

1 year actually and Naruto still doesn't have an ending because they are still making a series where they keep producing more kitten. So the better question you need to ask is...if the Naruto ending already occurred...WHY ARE THE STUDIOS KEEP GOING WITH IT?

Why call it "Naruto the Last" when it isn't?

No one cares about Bolt...no one wants to care about Bolt...so why keep going with it?

My questions is, why do all the kitten anime keep going on and on and on and manage to get all this massive budget, but good anime like Overlord, One Punch Man, and the like can't get a second season? Why do they just stop after one season?

I am sick of Naruto, Bleach, Dragonball Z, One Piece, and the like. They are not good anymore, but they keep going and going.

I just want to burn Studio Perriot to the ground. Madhouse is better.

I have found that the absolute best anime out there are the ones that only have a few episodes. Say 30 or less. I just recently finished watching an anime called Gargantia, and watched all 13 of its episodes in one sitting. Then I just finished watching Gurren Lagaan (I think that's how you spell it) a couple of days ago. I rated Gargantia a 5 star. Excellent watch. 

[Yyubie]

Master James you look like in a lot of stress , why don't you take your time a relax for a minute, don't release your stress and frustration on here on us T_T.

As for me, i only get anime through Horrible fans sub website my last episode was 414 because of the CPR scene after that i never download the anime again and get the game from Skidrow website, i don't know if that still count as supporting them ...

[rocci]

@james
I read opm, the original webcomic & the manga. I watch the anime too.
It's a great series, but do you want it to get long running series? Rember that long running series will sacrifice quality in order to prolong it. One of the reason why opm have great visual for a ordinary budget because it just 12 episode (along with staff passion & love).

Fans are the problem, but they're also the one who give them money. most of fan of anime/manga hate naruto one way or another, but there are also someone who love it. They are the one who keep naruto alive.

I don't think those people will chose him.

Not all production staff do that. It only happen to select few or maybe just opm in 2015. The rest are pure business.

[NeonRanger]

What about One Punch Man? One Punch Man has recently been getting a lot of popularity and people are loving it, but you're going to tell me that a fan would rather by this kitten Bolt stuff than one piece of epic One Punch Man Stuff?

This is what is confusing me. I see people brag about "This series is great...this series is underrated....this series needs more support," but then these same people would rather invest all their money in a kitten lackluster anime than what they deem is good stuff. So in essence...THE FANS ARE THE kittening PROBLEM because you don't know what the hell you want. The biggest bunch of hypocrites I have EVER SEEN in my entire life are the ones that say something is so garbage, but then buy it anyway because....why? There is no reason.

So thanks rocci, you have proven you me that every single person wanted this kitten ending because you all keep buying it. Thanks.

What next? You all are going to complain how Trump is the biggest racist, fascists, and radical man on the planet, but you all are gonna vote for him anyway?

 

No, that is the delusion that WE THE FANS give these corporations. You have just proven it to me.

When watching interviews about One Punch Man and it's anime production, many fans thought that the production teams spent a lot to make the anime great, but that wasn't the case. They said that the production cost was exactly the same as any other anime production, but the people behind it had so much passion for the series, they put their entire heart in it.

Not only that, but the same production team did Bolt the Movie which we know had a far bigger budget than One Punch Man. So an anime which has a lower budget than a anime movie had higher quality than an anime movie with the same production team for a tenth of the price all because that production team had passion for the series they worked on and you guys really want to put more money into Bolt?

It goes even farther when you notice OPM and then you look at Naruto the anime series and think if they both have the same budget...it shows even more how SP just does things as cheap as possible because Naruto doesn't make money at all. OPM Madhouse only cuts corners because they want to invest more time in other scenes, but the fight scenes never dwindle. SP on the other hand cuts corners because they are hurting for money apparently and Naruto is the only thing they got going for it.

Then you all got the ending you deserved. You all deserved to be disappointed, because you disappointed yourself by supporting it non-stop. You kept supporting garbage and now you all get is garbage because that is exactly what they think you want. Sorry, you guys are not fans if you really feel this way. ( And I am not talking about before the ending, I am talking after the ending came out and even now months down the road.)

This...this is just disgusting. I am now ashamed to have ever been a part of this fandom if people truly are like this. You all did it. You all keep throwing money at it and then you wonder why they continue it. Because you guys just don't care what these studios do anymore. You really don't care...so yeah, but that Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm triple XXX garbage fest or whatever it is. Keep telling them that you want to see your characters raped even more and see them become even more worthless and pathetic. Yeah...Sakura fans love seeing Sakura being turned into a stockholm syndrome pathetic female sexism representative. Yeah, We all want to be like Naruto...beat his kids and don't give them attention because he feels it is a sort of punishment. Yeah Yeah...ladies, be like Hinata who is a stalker and a whore who creepily spies on the man she wants to ride....good going girls and guys....I thought society was moving forward from this viewpoint of weak women and uncaring men, but I guess this is what they truly want because we keep throwing money at it.

God, it's like....it's like seeing a little kid keep sticking a fork in a light socket and then wonder why they keep getting shocked...Do people not learn anymore? Stop putting the fork in the socket if you don't want to be shocked.

And I am enjoying One Punch Man and Overlord wondering how the hell people are so stupid not to see good stuff right in front of them only to realize that people are so blind and so stupid that they really wouldn't know good anime if it sat on their face. What makes me laugh the most...I used to be just like these people.

Maybe it is good thing Naruto ended as it did because now we really see the difference between fans who only watch anime to get off on their fantasies vs people who want to watch interesting stories unfold on their favorite TV shows.

 

 

Bolded is pretty much the reason why Naruto ended like it did. The fans were the one pushing Sakura away as main heroine, they are the ones who made the Uchiha so popular, they are the ones that gave Hinata an importance that was never suppose to be. 

The only thing I blame Kishi for is being weak-willed. But the majority of my disappoint comes from the fans. It was already mentioned that due to popular demand/good novel sells that Itachi would get his own animated anime. They just showed all promos for the upcoming anime. Obviously SP is stalling. The Naruto franchise is not failing, it's only continuing based on fan demands. Boruto gained more than 3 billion yen and the Last was a great success internationally. 

 

The Naruto anime, however, is indeed failing. It earned a .3 rating for ep. 447.  

But remember that a majority of sales based on the Anime comes from merchandise. This is why despite low ratings, that anime is still going. The movies go for other cost that doesn't go for just the anime. There is a link in an SasuSaku forum, and the showed merchandise from the Bolt movie. NaruSasu, SasuSara, and SasuBoru all sold out compared to The Last, which is only NH. Shounen-ai pretty much sells very well. Not only that but some NaruSaku shippers still buy NS merchandise; not a bad thing, but you're only helping the studio in the end.

 

Sadly, you are right about OPM, right now even though it's wildly talked about, there isn't enough to get people into supporting a second season, which is not only disappointed but shocking; I mean look at the animation, how do people not want a second season?

 

That's why I avoid large fandoms, I still love DBZ, OP, and Bleach, but DBZ was already lost when people demanded more Goku. Bleach popularity was the downfall for Bleach, extending the "original" ending due to popularity just like Naruto. And I'm afraid OP might suffer the same faith. 

 

Fandom can make or break a manga/anime and that's really disappointing. 

[NeonRanger]

@james
I read opm, the original webcomic & the manga. I watch the anime too.
It's a great series, but do you want it to get long running series? Rember that long running series will sacrifice quality in order to prolong it. One of the reason why opm have great visual for a ordinary budget because it just 12 episode (along with staff passion & love).

Fans are the problem, but they're also the one who give them money. most of fan of anime/manga hate naruto one way or another, but there are also someone who love it. They are the one who keep naruto alive.

I don't think those people will chose him.

Not all production staff do that. It only happen to select few or maybe just opm in 2015. The rest are pure business.

 

Agree. I wish there was some sort of balance in quality and fan demand. Fans are the #1 problem, for any franchise, especially if you're in the minority. That's why I don't only look at SP when it comes to disappointment. They are continuing because fans want it to continue. Some SNS mutuals of mine who hated the ending are watch/ buying the anime until the end of the SNS fight, because of SNS. Some people are even looking forward to the Itachi Arc. 

Edited by NeonRanger, 04 January 2016 - 02:48 AM.

[rocci]

@neon
Opm second season problem is mad house. For some reason, they rarely make second season.
Personally I believe we will get second season.

I am not worry with onepiece or AoT. They're not kishi.

The stregth of popular series. There would be fan that will eat anything.

[VanitasDS76491]

I've moved on form Naruto but I'm getting one more game and the last movie and the rest of the anime not because I want to. It's more like I'm obligated to since I have over 500 episodes of it(I'm counting both series as one like how people say Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z one whole series) might as well finish it even though I'm probably going more insane with all those filler kitten we're getting.

[Legend054]

I support this 

[Emb3rs]

If they somehow managed to get past any legal issues then maybe. My main concerns would be the plot, animation, and obviously voice actors. If it happened those would be the first things, i would think, getting reviewed. I love NS but if it isn't set somewhere within the canon version of Naruto then it isn't something i would consider its redemption or giving fans the ship they where made to believe would happen. Plot is my number 1 concern for anything NS. Maybe if they managed to get the rights from a filler Naruto series, like continuing from one of the fillers such as Kunoichi of Nadeshiko village where he admits to be waiting for the right girl in other words Sakura. Just my thoughts on the matter.

[Phantom_999]

I've moved on form Naruto but I'm getting one more game and the last movie and the rest of the anime not because I want to. It's more like I'm obligated to since I have over 500 episodes of it(I'm counting both series as one like how people say Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z one whole series) might as well finish it even though I'm probably going more insane with all those filler kitten we're getting.

 

Well you don't have to. I stopped and trust me I bought almost 40 volumes of the manga and most of the Naruto ninja storm games. But I sold the games and planning to sell the manga The anime well I think I got it burnt so not sure what to do but to burn it once more

Edited by Phantom_999, 05 January 2016 - 10:29 PM.

[Tiller]

I don't see how they could get enough money to make a fan made animated film. Live action would be easier and cheaper, and wouldn't take as long.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I don't see how they could get enough money to make a fan made animated film. Live action would be easier and cheaper, and wouldn't take as long.

Let's do it.

[Emb3rs]

I don't see how they could get enough money to make a fan made animated film. Live action would be easier and cheaper, and wouldn't take as long.

True but that would be taking the already controversial topic of NS and adding the curse of live action anime remakes.