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[luffyq1]

@BakeNeko agreed.

 

I can't really get excited about a pair if I feel as though the plot is losing its quality. The power-ups that Naruto & Sasuke both received still hasn't fully digested yet. It seems lately that Kishi enjoys making Minato look like a screw up. Losing both arms and reminiscing about vowing to protecting Naruto while getting the Bijuu stolen right from under him just seems like a low blow to me. My disappointment with the war stems all the way back to Itachi and Kabuto fight. Probably the most boring fight I've ever seen. 

 

The excessive use of flashbacks played a good hand in it too.

[Phantom_999]

I thought that the 469 scene and the way Kishi answered it was done pretty poorly too, even if he was setting up for Sakura to be more of a heroine. The way he said it was that Sakura confessed under pressure and was trying to ease the burden off of Naruto. Now if that were in the  slightest bit true than that means she felt nothing for Naruto even after finding out about his feelings and was only doing it for a means to an end, which would be damaging to their relationship. Which is why even if some are defending this notion it would be be pretty harmful to NS as a whole If Sakura did not start falling for Naruto at this point. No, I'm not asking for them to be canon Instantly, but the feelings should be there at the very least. Which is Why I'm saying that there should be no way he means it like that otherwise it sounds like he is trying to ship-sink NS himself. And while some claim that NS would be damaged If Sakura chooses Naruto because he is the only option since Sasuke turned evil, then I ask what was the point of turning Sasuke evil in the first place? That practically threw the love triangle out the window or do they actually want Sakura to be portrayed as stupid in that she still conflicted about who the good man is here, or that she does not recognize all of Naruto's good qualities?   

 

At the same time, saying Sakura still loves Sasuke is just sounds like he wants her to stay stunted at that phase with the way he portrays things between them right now. Not his intention maybe but that's how it sounds to me, because just cause she has feelings for him still doesn't mean that that he has to portray her as a fragile wreck every single time Sasuke is brought up. The relationships of Naruto and Sakura to Sasuke is the only thing that is being flabbergasted, and quite frankly I do not truly enjoy this at all because Sasuke should not be such an extreme obsession for them that it would not be far-fetched to say he is the sole reason for their existence. That is the only true problem I have with the story all this time. That they think they need Sasuke to be with them to be happy. I honestly think that Kishi puts too much emphasis on Sasuke, even for a "creator's pet".      

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 May 2014 - 02:27 AM.

[Illnevergiveup3]

All Naruto needs is his Sakura-Chan to be happy😄 but yeah , I mean I think Kishi is seriously messing them up as well because he seems to backtrack on whatever development Naruto and Sakura-Chan goes through together sometimes. Kishi has killed off Sasusaku and NaruHina so many times and then he for some reason brings them back to life for no reason. He needs to keep them dead and continue developing NaruSaku and finally make Sakura-Chan realize her true love for Naruto so they can be together forever:-)

[Phantom_999]

Well as I said, it is the whole milking out of ship teases that is biting the story in the butt as it is, not because it destroys the story, but because but fans are losing focus on Sakura's development as a character by obsessing on who she is going  to end up with.  If the pairing possibilities were not being over-emphasized and also being open and shut cases do you think that fans would freak out at the slightest infraction? Sure you don't hear about debates in Japan, but I'm pretty sure in even they see that this is being dragged out because many of those pairing hints are taken much more seriously in Japan because open signs of  intimacy are not socially accepted unless you are truly serious about each other, for instance hand holding, hugging in front of crowds, and physically feeding someone, are gestures reserved for official couples only in their culture and even those are considered hardcore moments of affection. Of course though, they have a different take of the endless loop of ship teasing than we do.   

[Iwantbuns]

It's not even a romance anime, the fans turned it into one

 

And Kishimoto is basically taking advantage of their views by toying with us in almost every chapter...

 

And THAT is exactly why he 'screws up in the romance drama' 

[Toasty Warrior]

I don't believe Kishimoto has messed up the romance drama in Naruto. In fact I think he's stuck to the formula we've seen in most other manga, and besides he can't focus on romance with a war going on. We'll get that towards the end when everything is settling down. Sure it won't be what we expected, but I think we'll be happy with the outcome. ;)

[melovechoco]