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[Kakashi-Sensei]

I think Naruto is older because they said that he failed the acadamy test 3 times... And still he had is diploma at the same time as the others ( well not exactly at the same time but Iruka give it to him 1 day after the test, when he saves him)

 

 And i don't think that everybody failed the test several times

[Dkey]

I think Naruto is older because they said that he failed the acadamy test 3 times... And still he had is diploma at the same time as the others ( well not exactly at the same time but Iruka give it to him 1 day after the test, when he saves him)

 

 And i don't think that everybody failed the test several times

 

I think that exam was just for the henge jutsu, and he had to pass it to finish the academy. Not that he failed to graduate from it 3 times.

[StriderC]

 

Remember how we spent many pages discussing it all those months ago? Good times.

 

What you say is the point I'm trying to make. There's no evidence to claim either as fact, absolutely none. So I don't want people drawing to conclusions based on just their personal believes instead of proper evidence.

It really doesnt even seem like it was all that long ago but the discussion did go on for quite a bit from what I remember. Lol 

 

Agreed. Until Kishi delves past just the month and day or just gives a birthday celebration in the manga (doubtful lol), there is simply not enough info to make any deductions.

[desaix]

I think Naruto is older because they said that he failed the acadamy test 3 times... And still he had is diploma at the same time as the others ( well not exactly at the same time but Iruka give it to him 1 day after the test, when he saves him)

 

 And i don't think that everybody failed the test several times

 

But we know for certain that Sasuke is older than him, since Itachi was seen looking after him when Naruto was being born.  Are you saying Sasuke failed the test three times, too?

 

We're all arguing fridge logic, here.  Unless it's made explicit somewhere (a flashback to Sakura-chan as a baby when Naruto is born, for instance, as there was with Sasuke), there is no way of being certain, although using a bit of fridge logic you can make arguments either way.  However, the test-failed-three-times (which was not specifically the henge test; it was explicitly the graduation test he'd failed three times, and we see from Kiba's flashback that after one of those failures he had to transfer into the class that had the Rookie Nine in it) does not appear to be something we can judge his age by.  (besides, people were graduating much younger than any of the Rookie Nine did, even in peacetime -- Itachi graduated at... I think it was Seven?  during peacetime, after all)

Edited by desaix, 20 July 2013 - 07:28 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Right now in the manga in the current arc Sakura is 17 as well as Sasuke and Naruto is 16 going 17.

[sushi.]

Right now in the manga in the current arc Sakura is 17 as well as Sasuke and Naruto is 16 going 17.

I've heard that too, do you have a source?

 

I heard Sakura turned 17 in this war.

[Quinny52]

Right now in the manga in the current arc Sakura is 17 as well as Sasuke and Naruto is 16 going 17.

While I am one of those who does believe that Sakura is the oldest of the three, where did you come by this info, grave?

 

We've all been reading the same manga week after week, but I cannot recall ever reading/seeing anything that confirmed that character's birthdays had been and gone; As far as I'm aware, everyone in the Rookie 9 was still 16. Not that I don't believe that Sakura is older, mate, but I've never seen any evidence to prove it so far.

 

I'm inclined to agree with desaix, that until Kishi decides to shed some light on it, we can't confirm the age gap between Naruto and Sakura; Is she 7 months older or 5 months younger? We just don't know.

 

That said, I'd love to see a flashback of Sakura as a child and her interactions with Naruto (if any) before or outside the Academy. I'd like to see where, when and how her animosity to Naruto started, and why she found him 'annoying', and what role Naruto played in the development of this mindset.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Yeah, as has been stated we've wasted tons of site bandwidth on this question before, going 'round and 'round in circles with some saying yes and some saying no. Let's not take up even more forum bandwidth going around in circles with this fairly unimportant question again. Having Sakura being older doesn't somehow make the pairing 'unappealing' going by one of the reactions I'm seeing, for the mere suggestion that she is indeed the older one. Wrap this thread up. Toss out your final opinions, then it's getting closed. No need to use up more forum space than necessary.

[sushi.]

Yeah, as has been stated we've wasted tons of site bandwidth on this question before, going 'round and 'round in circles with some saying yes and some saying no. Let's not take up even more forum bandwidth going around in circles with this fairly unimportant question again. Having Sakura being older doesn't somehow make the pairing 'unappealing' going by one of the reactions I'm seeing, for the mere suggestion that she is indeed the older one. Wrap this thread up. Toss out your final opinions, then it's getting closed. No need to use up more forum space than necessary.

Katara was two years older than Aang.

 

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Final thoughts? OK.

 

I wish Kishi would publish some sort of a timeline/calendar. What year are they in in their world? And what is the timeline called?

 

I believe Sakura is 7 months older than Naruto. There is no evidence, but nothing that contradicts it either.

[Sakura Blossoms]

Katara was two years older than Aang.

 

There you go.

[KnS]

Okay, I'm going to take a shot at this.

 

The third databook lists birthdays AND current ages.  So let's see if we can do the actual break down using both the modern Japanese school year and the calendar year.

 

Academy Class by Japanese School Year 

 

Class Year 1 :: April 1 -- March 31

 

Neji       17     07/03 

Sai        17     11/25

Lee        17     11/27

----------------------------------

Tenten     17     03/09

 

Class Year 2 :: April 1 -- March 31

 

Choji      16     05/01

Kiba       16     07/07

Sasuke     16     07/23

Shikamaru  16     09/22

Ino        16     09/23

Naruto     16     10/10

Hinata     16     12/27

----------------------------------

Shino      16     01/23

Sakura     16     03/28

 

That seems to work, right?  But what happens if I add an example year to the characters' birthdays?

 

Class Year 1 :: April 1 -- March 31

 

Neji       17     07/03 1989

Sai        17     11/25 1989

Lee        17     11/27 1989

----------------------------------

Tenten     17     03/09 1990

 

Class Year 2 :: April 1 -- March 31

 

Choji      16     05/01 1990

Kiba       16     07/07 1990

Sasuke     16     07/23 1990

Shikamaru  16     09/22 1990

Ino        16     09/23 1990

Naruto     16     10/10 1990

Hinata     16     12/27 1990

----------------------------------

Shino      16     01/23 1991

Sakura     16     03/28 1991

 

It would seem to work except for Tenten's birthday.  If she was 17 on March 9 1990 to fit the Japanese school year model, then she would already have turned 18 before Sakura turned 16.  But the databook says Tenten is 17 and Sakura is 16.

 

The only way I can see to make the ages, birthdates, and academy classes work out according to the databook is to use a calendar year.

 

Academy Class by Calendar Year

 

Tenten     17     03/09

Neji       17     07/03 

Sai        17     11/25

Lee        17     11/27

----------------------------------

Shino      16     01/23

Sakura     16     03/28

Choji      16     05/01

Kiba       16     07/07

Sasuke     16     07/23

Shikamaru  16     09/22

Ino        16     09/23

Naruto     16     10/10

Hinata     16     12/27

 

So based on the latest databook, at least, Sakura is older than both Sasuke and Naruto.  And if you think about it that makes sense.  It not only makes Naruto "dead last" yet again in terms of Team 7, but the only person younger than him -- or more dead last among all the rookies and always trying to catch up to Naruto -- is Hinata.

 

ETA:  Not to mention that using the calendar year is WAY easier for Kishimoto to have set up in the beginning and remember going forward.  

Edited by KnS, 20 July 2013 - 10:53 PM.

[Skilatry]

I agree to the above, the calender year seems to be the only one without contradictions in it, namely Tentens birthday. So it seems Sakura is the oldest in Team 7, I always thought she probably was but its nice to confirm it.

[redragon88]

It would seem to work except for Tenten's birthday.  If she was 17 on March 9 1990 to fit the Japanese school year model, then she would already have turned 18 before Sakura turned 16.  But the databook says Tenten is 17 and Sakura is 16.

 

What? At most Tenten and Sakura are 1 year and 20 days apart from age if we go by the japanese school year model.

 

Where on earth do you get the idea that Tenten would be 18 while Sakura would still be 15? That's a three year difference. I can't believe I have to point this out.

 

Look at the numbers people. Jeez.

 

What do you mean if she was 17 in 1990? I thought you established that as the year she was born. You're even confusing the information that you're providing.

Edited by redragon88, 21 July 2013 - 01:49 AM.

[redragon88]

I agree to the above, the calender year seems to be the only one without contradictions in it, namely Tentens birthday. So it seems Sakura is the oldest in Team 7, I always thought she probably was but its nice to confirm it.

 

There is no confirmation. This is why keep arguing about it. If you want to believe she's older that's fine, but please don't go around saying it's confirmed or that the evidence it's clear. It is not.

 

What KnS said has no bearing whatsoever. If you read carefully what he wrote about Tenten being 18 you'll notice that his argument is flawed.

 

Yeah, as has been stated we've wasted tons of site bandwidth on this question before, going 'round and 'round in circles with some saying yes and some saying no. Let's not take up even more forum bandwidth going around in circles with this fairly unimportant question again. Having Sakura being older doesn't somehow make the pairing 'unappealing' going by one of the reactions I'm seeing, for the mere suggestion that she is indeed the older one. Wrap this thread up. Toss out your final opinions, then it's getting closed. No need to use up more forum space than necessary.

 

I'm gonna guess you're accusing me of that. If it's not directed at me then I'm sorry, but if it is directed at me I must say that I'm extremely disappointed in you. I've mentioned in nearly every one of the posts that I'm arguing against it because people here seem to be taking the speculation of Sakura being older and passing it off as fact when it is not.

 

I don't care if Sakura turns out to be older, I care about people taking speculation as factual information.

 

It's really disheartening to see you brush off my intention the way you have. That's of course if the bolded was aimed at me.

Edited by redragon88, 21 July 2013 - 02:25 AM.

[Shadow1275]

Personally, I would think that Naruto is older because he failed the exam 3 times before, and that him being moved up a grade is unlikely bc he was a terrible ninja in the beginning [hence the failing 3 times part]. But the bottom line is that there isn't any concrete evidence to show whether she is or isn't.

Edited by Shadow1275, 21 July 2013 - 02:56 AM.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

Personally, I would think that Naruto is older because he failed the exam 3 times before, and that him being moved up a grade is unlikely bc he was a terrible ninja in the beginning [hence the failing 3 times part]. But the bottom line is that there isn't any concrete evidence to show whether she is or isn't.

Agreed with you I pretty much said the same on the top.

 

But like one guy said earlier, we have canon fact that Sasuke his older then Naruto , and he can't have failed the test 3 times since he was the best ninja in the acadamy...

[Shadow1275]

Agreed with you I pretty much said the same on the top.

 

But like one guy said earlier, we have canon fact that Sasuke his older then Naruto , and he can't have failed the test 3 times since he was the best ninja in the acadamy...

True, but I never said that Naruto was older then Sasuke.

 

Though I wonder if they have mixed age classes at the academy. Like Itachi was part of the anbu at Nineteen, Kakashi graduated from the academy at age five. It's possible that Sakura was younger but since she was considered a top student was moved up.

[Sakura Blossoms]

I'm gonna guess you're accusing me of that. If it's not directed at me then I'm sorry, but if it is directed at me I must say that I'm extremely disappointed in you.

 

Are you being serious right now? Like, really serious? Dude, you don't even know me. Do you truly honestly believe I give a flying whatevs if you're 'disappointed' in me? I mean, seriously? *shakes head*

 

Also, don't double-post *points up at your double-posting*

 

We've now beaten the horse to death. It can go no further.

 

Thread closed.