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[kirabook]

Tsk tsk, you forgot to compare their hair length!

No no, just kidding. I also have never really understood the parallel between Hinata and Minato, so I chose to ignore people who use that argument. The only parallels that matter with MK is Kushina's personality and MK as a relationship.

I think people who try to parallel Hinata are thinking about parallels incorrectly. I've mentioned it before but, they always try to compare Kushina's love for her son rather than the love for her lover. "Hinata almost sacrificed herself the same way Kushina did". That's good and all, but Kushina did that for her son, not her lover. I'm sure she would do it for her lover anyway, but the point of that scene was to drive it home that Kushina would do anything for her son. That's really the only thing Kushina and Hinata have in common, and it's a parallel to a mother-son relationship.

When I compare parallels, I recall how Kushina behaved around Minato and her personality. I don't see how anyone could possibly deny how Naruto and Sakura's dynamics greatly resemble Minato's and Kushina's based on what little we know of their overall relationship. (Of course, how their relationship started with hate to love, Minato never winning an argument, etc) I mean, I doubt Kushina smacked Minato around very much because Minato is just not as goofy as Naruto from what we have seen thus far. XD

This parallel is not proof that NS will happen, but it does strongly support the idea and gives it more foundation. Most of the time, some fans say such parallels does not matter, yet any chance they get, they will try to make Hinata connect with Naruto's parents in some way, anyway they can. They're so desperate to do so, they'll relate Hinata to Minato.

Of course, no parallel is an absolute fit, it's not supposed to be. Kishi doesn't want to keep repeating characters over and over again, so all of them have something that is a little different. (For example, all the Team 7's we know of, HIGHLY similar, yet very different)

[James S Cassidy]

Here is a bold question to ask anyone who denies all this. Ask "If the situations didn't change; if nothing changes except for the fact that Hinata and Sakura switch places and adopted the others "Love affection" for the characters. (Ie. Sakura loves Naruto like Hinata did and Hinata first started being in love with Sasuke), would they see all those moments as romantic or 'platonic bother and sister?'"

If they answer that if Hinata was in Sakura's place all those scenes would be romantic, then it proves how biased they are about their pairing choice.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 20 January 2013 - 03:39 PM.

[T XD]

Here is a bold question to ask anyone who denies all this. As "If the situations didn't change, if nothing changes except for the fact that Hinata and Sakura switch places and adopted the others "Love affection" for the characters. (Ie. Sakura loves Naruto like Hinata did and Hinata first started being in love with Sasuke), would they see all those moments as romantic or 'platonic bother and sister?'"

If they answer that if Hinata was in Sakura place, all those scenes would be romantic, then it proves how biased they are about their pairing choice.

Good question.

*printing copies of this and hand out flyers*

Edited by T XD, 20 January 2013 - 03:36 PM.

[Inferno180]

I guess one thing the crazy NaruHina fans always say is how Sakura never does anything for Naruto,

Did they forget that one of Sakura's key personality traits is how she always wanted to do stuff for Naruto?
After he failed to get Sasuke back she trained with Tsunade for the sole purpose and desire to help Naruto and not be a burden, she felt she was useless so she resolved to do something about it and she did.
She was sad she could not do more for Naruto after Yamato told her the sealing technique was impossible to teach her as it belonged to the first hokage.
She reminded Naruto he was not alone when it came to Sasuke leaving again once they reunited.
She wanted to aid in Naruto's wind training (i mean the food pills were nasty but still showed she cared)
Even as far as we are now, after all Naruto was left alone to do with facing Pain and saving the leaf village and now the fate of the world, Sakura was basically coming up saying enough is enough, no matter what happens this time we are all going to fight together.

Sakura always wants do to stuff for Naruto if she can, one thing she wanted to do for team 7 was prove her usefulness, aside from her intelligence she resolved to better herself and she did. (I mean if it wasn't for her the white zetsu would have killed many more people). Now that desire is to help Naruto to the very end.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I think the reason NaruHina fans like to say that Minato= Hinata is because that they're both quiet individuals. But the big difference is that Minato is so much more confident than Hinata. He didn't need a crush (Kushina) to build up his own confidence, he had it on his own. You could see it when Minato stood up in class and expressed his dream to be Hokage. He wasn't obnoxious or loud-mouthed like Naruto can be but he sounded and looked confident. Can you imagine Hinata saying that to everyone? "My dream is to be acknowledged by my father, lead the Clan, and be acknowledged by Naruto-kun. Maybe even win his heart!" I see her blushing and shriveling under the pressure. Minato is usually always confident, even in a crisis. Hinata is only confident and outspoken in a crisis. Usually when she sucks confidence from Naruto.

Minato & Hinata= quiet people. I will give them that. But does one similiarity give them? Is that really enough to parallel her to Minato? I don't understand that. For *insert random character* and *insert another character*, they have to have a handful of similiar qualities for something to even be a parallel. By that logic, it's like saying this: "Ino is loud-mouthed. Naruto is too. Parallel." It's simply not enough. If Minato was a quiet, studdering mess who gave up all the time, then sure. Hinata=Minato. That is not the way Kishi wrote him. There is no outright parallel to Hinata.

To some, NaruHina= MinaKushi. This is a very vague parallel. The only thing I can see is that Minato never bothered her with his crush on her all the time like Naruto does with Sakura. He kept mostly to himself, like Hinata. While Kushina had an urge to make fun of him when he said he'd be Hokage, there isn't proof she actually expressed it to him. She didn't like him but she ignored him. Sort of like Naruto with Hinata, though he didn't actually dislike her like Kushina did with Minato. (" Hinata Hyuga: "A weirdo who always looks away when I say something. A shy, dark girl." -Naruto). NaruSaku is the more obvious parallel, however. Kushina didn't like Minato, she eventually changed her opinion and fell in love with him (Sakura to Naruto, you could argue). Minato loved the trait she hated about herself. So did Naruto with Sakura's forehead. MinaKushi= NaruSaku parallel. If it wasn't clear enough, Kishimoto specifically compared the two in the 6th movie as Naruto and Sakura being the 2nd generation MinaKushi. Don't see him doing that with NaruHina.

I truly have no idea how this Minato= Hinata concept started waving itself around in the fandom. To be honest, I actually feel like Sakura is more like Minato than Hinata. But she's like Kushina, too. She's the stronger parallel compared to Minato (Naruto=Kushina --> Naruto= Sakura --> Kushina= Sakura). I actually see a healthy balance of Minato/Kushina traits in both Naruto and Sakura. Neither of them is "pure Kushina" or "pure Minato".

Naruto's similiar traits to Minato:
- Confident in his own strength
- Obstinate/utterly determined (Stated once by Jiraiya)
- Share the same dream of being Hokage
- Friendly and agreeable
Naruto's similiar traits to Kushina:
- Playful/Easy-going
- Loves pranks
- Bad Academy grades
- Loud-mouthed
- Hot-headed
- Stubborn/set in his own ways
- Impatient
- Both say similiar verbal tics like 'Dattebayo' and 'Dattebane'.

Obviously Naruto's more dominant personality is like Kushina's but he has some strong Minato qualities in him as well.

Sakura's similiar traits to Minato:
- Level-headed/Logical
- Intelligent
- Stubborn/Determined
- Outspoken about own opinions
Sakura's similiar traits to Kushina:
- Has a fondness for pranks or jokes
- Bad-tempered and easily annoyed/punches others if angered
- Hates to lose (Confirmed in Databook)
- Was teased over a physical feature and hated it (*note: Kushina punched the bullies, Sakura cried over it)
- Would do absolutely anything for Naruto
- Both have a verbal tic: Sakura's 'Shannaro' when angry or excited
- Tomboyish
- Stubborn/fixed in her own beliefs
- Good at arguing and usually win them (MK=NS parallel lol)

*Once again, it seems Sakura's personality has a lot more in common with Kushina than she does with Minato. Both of them are just the smart, strategic people.

Anyhow, Sakura has much more in common with Minato than Hinata does. But it doesn't matter pairing-wise anyway and I'm not gonna sit and pretend it does (*looks to some NH fans* ). Kushina said "find a girl like your mother". Really, the only thing that matters is if Hinata is like Kushina. And no, it can't be argued that Kushina thought Naruto would turn out like Minato. Even if that's true, she still said the same thing after seeing Naruto's personality: find a girl like your mom. And just to drive my point, I'll try and compare Hinata to Naruto's parents:

Hinata's similiarities to Minato:
- Quiet (*note: She's unconfident, Minato's not)
- Agreeable/Friendly
- Never openly pestered her crush with her own feelings
Hinata's similiarites to Kushina:
- Would do absolutely anything for Naruto, even risk her own life
- Kidnapped by Kumo ninja
- Doesn't like to lose (*note: She gives up more easier than Kushina, however)

Now to do the math:

Naruto= Minato: 6
Sakura= Minato: 6
Hinata= Minato: 3
Naruto= Kushina: 9
Sakura= Kushina: 9
Hinata= Kushina: 3

I think I have my answer.

Sakura dont? Neji dont? Kakashi dont? Sasuke dont? if it would be unique okay but no.
(not that she did that because she loves him she had no reason like "because you're important to me" her reasons to sacrifice her life is selfish while Kushina reasons were motherly.)
Look at what Sasuke did on part 1 to Naruto when he tried to save him, and what Naruto did to save Sakura, that was an example of doing anything for that person, you dont expect anything in return and hinata wanted something in return.

She gives up so easily, i dont think hates to lose fits her character if she hate to lose she would surpass Neji by now.
The third?
Hinata -> it's because i love you
Minato -> Your hair is beautifull.

...

The only thing that Hinata and Kushina share in common is the fact that they both were kidnapped by kumo ninjas and that's all.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 January 2013 - 07:18 PM.

[Slextrem]

I suddenly have the urge to do this with the Naruto/Sakura & Sasuke/Sakura relationship. While SS wouldn't take very long I'm sure, a NaruSaku version would take me forever.

I was originally going to do this for all three of the big pairings, but just writing this post took me a good 5 hours because I had to go through the entire series to find these interactions, so I gave up~ LOL.

I would really like to do this for NaruSaku though. Perhaps I will, if I have time tomorrow.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I was originally going to do this for all three of the big pairings, but just writing this post took me a good 5 hours because I had to go through the entire series to find these interactions, so I gave up~ LOL.

I would really like to do this for NaruSaku though. Perhaps I will, if I have time tomorrow.

You'll be writing for 4 hours for SS. As for NS, you'll be writing all day.

[Chatte]

I was originally going to do this for all three of the big pairings, but just writing this post took me a good 5 hours because I had to go through the entire series to find these interactions, so I gave up~ LOL.

I would really like to do this for NaruSaku though. Perhaps I will, if I have time tomorrow.

Well in the Sakura analysis one that I did, where I put very much accent on the part with Naruto since everyone told me that she did nothing for Naruto, took me like Forever! And it's still taking since I am not finish and I'm barely at the situation after her fight in the Forest of Death with the Sound Nin.

[Inferno180]

Guess this is a good question for this topic:

Ever since the whole fake confession, those against NaruSaku always go on saying its over just because Naruto said he hates people who lie to themselves. The whole point of the confession was as we know an attempt for Sakura to get Naruto off his promise in an attempt to stop the suffering she unexpectedly put on him.

Now aside from all the insults the haters put on Sakura, we all know why she did it.
1. The village was in ruins, vulnerable to attack
2. Akatsuki was on the move still hunting Naruto
3. Sasuke was now an international criminal making the Leaf a liablity
4. Sai told Sakura about how Naruto was beaten by the cloud nin for refusing to tell them about Sasuke
5. Sakura was hurt over what happened to Naruto, what Sasuke became, and how both she and sasuke were not only caused naruto happiness but also pain.
6. Sakura was desperate over this and wanted to make amends, if she was some lying manipulative b**** she would have not cared but she was crying over this. She wanted to try to get Naruto to forget Sasuke or at least take care of him herself.

Now we know how the events played out, I admit Sakura's plan could have gone better but we know Sakura is stubborn and this was just a moment she was not thinking clearly. Sakura's first attempt was at Naruto, to get him back in the village where is was safe. Her second attempt was when it came to Sasuke she pretended to ditch the leaf, Sakura never meant to ditch the leaf, it was for the guise to get close enough to Sasuke to suddenly stab him, she was thinking this as Sasuke wanted her to prove her loyality by killing Karin but Karin warns her in time and Kakashi rescues her. Third attempt was after she was saddened by what he became, she had the opportunity but all the memories of them as team 7, Naruto, her and Sasuke prevented it. Sakura just could not do it then Naruto saves her.

Now ever since then, many thought and many haters or NaruHina fans still say its dead and its over. Many say that Naruto is over Sakura. They claim its over cause there have been no NaruSaku moments for a long time. There are a few definite ways to answer some of these questions:

1. Its true there are have not been any NaruSaku moments for a while, just a brief one on the battlefield when he meets sakura just before the white zetsu attack her. They have been separated by the war.

2. Kushina came into the picture after the confession with the parallel childhood to sakura, we could take that as a sign of it being alive.

3. Most importantly there has not been anything to show Naruto is over Sakura in the manga, just as hinata's confession is still unresolved Naruto still shows no signs of being over Sakura so we can only assume he is still in love with Sakura. Now they are on the same battlefield together but Naruto as we know is level headed enough to not think about love in the middle of the battle. In fact, not only has there been nothing mangawise, there have been 2 fillers (which take place after the 5 kage summit) showing naruto AS STILL LOVING SAKURA. Yes they are fillers, they don't count but if we saw nothing in the manga, what are we to attribute? That he loves Sakura in the anime only now? So Kishi will make NaruHina canon in the manga and NaruSaku canon in the Anime? Ep 235 he tells the girl shizuka he loves sakura and still does, in the recent chikara arc, he is eager and looks happy thinking he would bathe with sakura.

With nothing so far showing he is over Sakura, there are a few ways to ask, why would he be over Sakura?

Sakura's lied to him before: About Sasuke being fine, about what hurt her on the bridge (naruto in 4 tailed form), I don't see why he would just suddenly drop it.

Naruto has loved Sakura for the longest time, would this mean that the whole POAL to her would suddenly be dropped from importance? This is one of the biggest things in the series on Naruto's character himself, he even responded to Sakura that he is chasing Sasuke for his own reasons aside from her promise. Sakura is also the only one who knows Naruto is hiding something from the rest of the group as to why he would be the only one to handle Sasuke, Naruto said he would tell them later but Sakura knows it as the truth about Itachi.

What would be the point to have Sakura go all the way to the iron country with Sai, Lee, and Kiba, just to try and make amends for indirectly hurting Naruto, only to have the pairing possibility dropped, rather what would the point of this be to entirely end the possibility of it? Only a few chapters earlier, we see that Naruto sees his promise as something to fulfill and overcome because he feels he could not become hokage if he cannot save one friend and at that same note, confess to sakura. So did the promise suddenly become unimportant or only half important for rescuing sasuke from vengeance?

Why would Naruto just suddenly stop loving Sakura over an event like this? I mean we know Sakura's love for Sasuke was only idealistic, he seemed like a flawless guy, it could be agrued the same way as how Naruto saw Sakura and even how Hinata sees Naruto, the only difference between Sakura loving Sasuke and Hinata loving Naruto is that with the whole promise, it was important to Naruto to get back a friend/rival/one-he-viewed-as-a-brother, keep his faith to his friends, not let Sakura or himself suffer (sasuke was important to them both), he would try to get Sasuke back as well because at first it was for just Sakura but it turned into something that bound them all, Naruto has been trying to get him back for his own purposes aside from just Sakura and even then he would do it in the hopes that Sakura would acknowledge him or win her affection even if she loved Sasuke. Naruto did it out of faith and selflessness for all these reasons. Even before the confession Sakura resolved to help Naruto in his goal, rather their goal. Would it just appear that this is suddenly not important anymore if the confession was ending the possibility of NaruSaku?

Someone can tell me this and please expand upon this, its not because of what was said by Naruto, but how could an important plot point (the promise) suddenly just be overlooked and abandoned? It was key to both Naruto and Sakura's development and practically tied into the later events such as when Naruto lost Jiriaya and met up with Sasuke again. One key trait on Naruto is how he always felt it was up to him even when Sakura has tried to aid him in his goal yet they both time and time again have been falling short of this. Itachi reminded Naruto it was not always up to him and Sakura made it her goal that no matter what this time she would resolve to help him until the end.

So how could NaruSaku suddenly just die, it would be like in this point the whole segment around 469 was to just kill an important plot point rather than just a pairing. Someone could please expand and explain this, I mean until we see Naruto being over Sakura, with only fillers touching upon him being in love with Sakura still, we either have no idea or can only assume he still loves Sakura. There was even downtime before Naruto left for the turtle isle and he could have addressed the confession for hinata but he did not. Hell he still just calls her Hinata and still calls Sakura "Sakura-chan" he still thinks of Sakura as closer due to the suffix but not Hinata now does he? he still only sees hinata as a friend and as far as the 615 event goes, I only saw the hand holding moment as from Naruto's point being a way to thank her and briefly consulate Hinata for the loss of Neji.

Among anything we still need to see what happens, I mean what if in the next few chapters we see some realization with sakura actually loving Naruto? So would it have made sense just for Sakura to fall in love now that the possibility has passed and then naruto loves hinata to make a whole missed opportunity trope? That would be utterly pointless and a waste of character development this late in the series.

[Chucky-kun]

Isn't the similarity between Minato and Hinata obvious?

MINATO

HINATA

[Chatte]

Isn't the similarity between Minato and Hinata obvious?

MINATO

HINATA

You remind me of this:

Kushina
Hinata

[TouKen4Life3g]

@Inferno180: Well done. Enjoyed your reading. Don't forget the movie, which it was Kishi opportunity to change the direction of pairings, as well as pinpointing to NS relationship. To me, we may be overthinking so much to the point we think Naruto could have moved on. Media outside of manga suggests otherwise. All of them are still high on NS being endgame. The manga will seal the deal once there is just one NS moment. Not to mention, we got two guys who can establish the parallel, either Obito and/or Kuruma. At first, I thought Kishi would do it for NH, but that was me overthinking. So yes, I do believe NS is still strong if not stronger than ever. One small manga confirmation will destroy the wall haters created. Lets hope it's very soon.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Isn't the similarity between Minato and Hinata obvious?

MINATO

HINATA

They are comparing Minato with Hinata because on a stupid fillersode, they showed Kushina being bullied because she comes from a different village instead of being her physical attributes and Minato was stalking Kushina the same way Hinata stalked Naruto during the entire episode.
they should have a shame of doing kitten with an awesome character like Minato, he didnt even bother with Kushina despite loving her, in certain way his approach to Kushina was the same of Naruto, this is so true that he didnt even say "i love you" to Kushina he just said that he liked her hair.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 21 January 2013 - 12:01 AM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I was originally going to do this for all three of the big pairings, but just writing this post took me a good 5 hours because I had to go through the entire series to find these interactions, so I gave up~ LOL.

I would really like to do this for NaruSaku though. Perhaps I will, if I have time tomorrow.

I'm not surprised. You have to really look through everything and pay attention to all of the interactions. Really dedicated stuff.

I feel like doing a NS version too, myself just 'cause you inspired me! If it takes far too long for you, I'll be willing to take it off your hands for you. Wanna know why? 'Cause I'm obsessed like that.

Maybe I'll do the SS version. XD

And Darkest, I don't really see Hinata's confession as selfish. Impulsive and faithless, sure. Hinata really should've thought more thoroughly over what she was doing instead of doing a kamikaze suicide attack. That's the only thing I blame her for. Maybe the confessing her feelings for Naruto were somewhat selfish. She was getting it off her chest because she was about to die, but it's hardly unforgiving. I still think it's true. Hinata's admiration of Naruto is such that she would do absolutely anything for him. Kushina is the same, though her love is motherly. Hinata doesn't like to give up 'cause she hates the hopelessness and failure she ends up feeling. However, her resolve is weak in comparision. Compare it to Sakura, Kushina, and Naruto for instance. All three of them are recklessly stubborn and determined and don't give up despite the odds. Their will is stronger than Hinata's. I made note of that. Hinata still doesn't like to lose though. She clearly said it during her fight with Neji and alluded it to in her confession. So no, I'm not wrong.

Complimenting Kushina's hair was far from bothering her with his crush. Minato was just giving her a compliment, it wasn't something like "Let's go on date, Kushina!" That would be forcing his feelings. It's even more strengthened by how Minato was invisible to Kushina and she ignored him but disliked him. Even then, Minato wasn't expressing his feelings. It was very reminiscent of Hinata and how she was too shy to talk to Naruto. However, I'm positive Minato had a much different motive. On Hinata, I guess you have a point. I thinking mostly of Part 1 when I typed that. In Part 2, Hinata definitely does force her feelings on Naruto now. (437, 573, 615 anyone?)

The HinaKushi/MinaHina comparisions are so stupid and desperate, I can't even begin to comprehend them. When I was typing my list of the Minato/Kushina qualities. I swear I wasn't even thinking about pairings. Just used my knowledge and what was at the top of my head. Naruto's similiar traits, easy. Sakura's similiar traits, easy. It was when I hit Hinata that I actually had to think and finding an answer was hard. I kept drawing a blank. Especially when I got to Kushina. She has absolutely non-existent shared personality traits and the only one I found (*Doesn't like to lose) was weak. Honestly, the fact that I struggled to find similiarites Hinata has to Naruto's parents is telling. How the hell does the NaruHina fandom keep claiming it as proof?

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 21 January 2013 - 12:09 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I'm not surprised. You have to really look through everything and pay attention to all of the interactions. Really dedicated stuff.

I feel like doing a NS version too, myself just 'cause you inspired me! If it takes far too long for you, I'll be willing to take it off your hands for you. Wanna know why? 'Cause I'm obsessed like that.

Maybe I'll do the SS version. XD

And Darkest, I don't really see Hinata's confession as selfish. Impulsive and faithless, sure. Hinata really should've thought more thoroughly over what she was doing instead of doing a kamikaze suicide attack. That's the only thing I blame her for. Maybe the confessing her feelings for Naruto were somewhat selfish. She was getting it off her chest because she was about to die, but it's hardly unforgiving. I still think it's true. Hinata's admiration of Naruto is such that she would do absolutely anything for him. Kushina is the same, though her love is motherly. Hinata doesn't like to give up 'cause she hates the hopelessness and failure she ends up feeling. However, her resolve is weak in comparision. Compare it to Sakura, Kushina, and Naruto for instance. All three of them are recklessly stubborn and determined and don't give up despite the odds. Their will is stronger than Hinata's. I made note of that. Hinata still doesn't like to lose though. She clearly said it during her fight with Neji and alluded it to in her confession. So no, I'm not wrong.

I see as selfish becasue she did that for the reason she loved him.
If she just said "I love you" i would understand but she actually said "because i love you" then selfish.

[sushi.]

I remember people tried to insult me from all sides when I wrote this on YT. XD

Hinata's confession was selfish because while her comrades were dying around her, she spied on Naruto for a while with her byakugan. Like she was just checking if he was going to be OK. When her theory was confirmed, she jumped out there and decided that she would rather kill herself than watch Naruto getting killed. =) The thing is that Hinata is not selfish in that matter of only thinking of herself, she is not self-centered, but Naruto-centered.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I remember people tried to insult me from all sides when I wrote this on YT. XD

Hinata's confession was selfish because while her comrades were dying around her, she spied on Naruto for a while with her byakugan. Like she was just checking if he was going to be OK. When her theory was confirmed, she jumped out there and decided that she would rather kill herself than watch Naruto getting killed. =) The thing is that Hinata is not selfish in that matter of only thinking of herself, she is not self-centered, but Naruto-centered.

THe problem with her confession, is her lack of faith in Naruto, but what make her confession selfish was not the fact of her watching him with the byakugan becasue that guy was watching too, the problem is that she jumped there and said "Because i love you" instead of just "Love you"
In other words she wanst doing that because Naruto was a friend or whatever but because she loved him which makes me doubts if she would try to risk her life to save Neji, Kiba, shino and others.

Naruto risked his life to save a lot of people there, even people he does not love.

[sushi.]

THe problem with her confession, is her lack of faith in Naruto, but what make her confession selfish was not the fact of her watching him with the byakugan becasue that guy was watching too, the problem is that she jumped there and said "Because i love you" instead of just "Love you"
In other words she wanst doing that because Naruto was a friend or whatever but because she loved him which makes me doubts if she would try to risk her life to save Neji, Kiba, shino and others.

Naruto risked his life to save a lot of people there, even people he does not love.

That's another problem, I have several problems with her confession. Hinata used "Because I love you" as an excuse to commit suicide. She would let her own feelings get in the way of Naruto's plan, her feelings for Naruto was her highest priority. She had to get it off her chest, and she would only do so because she thought he wouldn't be able to confront her later.(because she wouldn't be alive) That is not the way of a ninja.

The day Hinata talks to Naruto without being in a dangerous sitaution, my jaw will drop.

Edited by sushi., 21 January 2013 - 12:25 AM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

That's another problem, I have several problems with her confession. Hinata used "Because I love you" as an excuse to commit suicide. She would let her own feelings get in the way of Naruto's plan, her feelings for Naruto was her highest priority. She had to get it off her chest, and she would only do so because she thought he wouldn't be able to confront her later.(because she wouldn't be alive) That is not the way of a ninja.

The day Hinata talks to Naruto without being in a dangerous sitaution, my jaw will drop.

I dont think she was there to commit suicide if we follow this logic, Sakura was going to commit suicide too when she was going to kill Sasuke.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I see as selfish becasue she did that for the reason she loved him.
If she just said "I love you" i would understand but she actually said "because i love you" then selfish.

How is it selfish? If you want to save someone's life because you love them, it's understandable. Was Naruto selfish when he tried to save Sakura several times because he loves her? Was Sakura selfish when she risked her life to protect Sasuke or save him from the darkness in the Kage Summit because she loves him? Was Kushina selfish when she jumped in front to protect Naruto as a child because she loved him? Was Minato selfish when he rescued Kushina from the Kumo nin because he liked her?

If you're in love with someone, you naturally are more concerned and driven on instinct to protect and save them much more strongly. Hinata reflected this in the confession. The act itself was not selfish, it was her confession that somewhat was. She confessed her feelings to Naruto because she knew she probably was going to end up dying and this was her last chance to do so. It consequently burdened him with her true feelings, increasing Naruto's guilt which partly created his fury. That's what that "I'm just being selfish" Hinata line was refering to.

Compare this to Naruto's love for Sakura. When he saved her and gave his all for her to survive against Gaara, he never said a word about it afterwards. Naruto asked no credit for it, he did it because he cared. Hinata wouldn't be so quiet about it. She wants Naruto to acknowledge her so she'd love for him to know what she did for him. Theoretically, if Naruto knew he was about to die, he wouldn't confess his love for Sakura. Because he knew if he did, it would make her guilty and increase her distress.

That is exactly why I think Hinata's love for Naruto is selfish compared to Naruto's own love for Sakura.

The day Hinata talks to Naruto without being in a dangerous sitaution, my jaw will drop

I'm with you on that one, sushi. I still remember my gaping face when she slapped Naruto in 615. Biggest shock of my life, I can tell ya.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 21 January 2013 - 12:36 AM.