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[catsi563]

Oh the part 1 Naruto fillers made the Kenshin fillers look like masterpieces and the Bleach ones look tolerable. I've seen many anime series and the Naruto part 1 fillers were the most gawd awful fillers I've ever seen. Except for the first arc (and even that one was kind of ehh, other than the true to the characters at that point narusaku moments, and the in character scenes when the two of them are interacting with Jiraiya) and especially the final arc- the one with Gaara- and note, like most of the Shippuden fillers that last one actually furthered the story and didn't contradict canon too hideously. The villains were as painfully bad as usual but otherwise it worked. Kishimoto seemed to think so too, while he didn't acknowledge the dreadful villains, in the third databook, he gives the stamp of approval to Matsuri- the name and background, in manga canon she is not named and is only seen as Gaara's most enthusiastic (and tomboyish) fangirl. She was semicanon due to that scene. Kishimoto apparently liked the name and additions- it's the only anime addition he's ever given the stamp of approval to. Forget the stupid villains, but yes, Matsuri was Gaara's student. I noticed Kishimoto had her up front in the scene where Gaara is leaving for the Kage summit too, and if I'm recalling correctly, even gives her a line of dialogue.

Oh I dont disagree that they were gawd awful. My commentaryw as more along the lines of the fact that even the horrid part 1 fillers can be followed as part of the story within the given plot. They dont count like all non canon material, but they dont contradict or jump the line of the plot so to speak.

for example the investigate the sound arc is the closest and only filler Id view as canon due to its story elements and how it ends with Sakura going to tsunade. it could have jumped to the final episode of Naruto leaving and everything would have gone fine.

Simply put those fillers only real quality is that they do further the story line and remain plot worthy and continuity wise.

[crazyefra]

Thanks to those fillers, except the ones mentione by catsi and ciardha, Toonami (the best thing Cartoon Network had after ed,edd and eddy) got canceled and Shippuden landed on Disney XD (were there's a ton of unnecessary edits that make it crappy).

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[ciardha]

Oh I dont disagree that they were gawd awful. My commentaryw as more along the lines of the fact that even the horrid part 1 fillers can be followed as part of the story within the given plot. They dont count like all non canon material, but they dont contradict or jump the line of the plot so to speak.

for example the investigate the sound arc is the closest and only filler Id view as canon due to its story elements and how it ends with Sakura going to tsunade. it could have jumped to the final episode of Naruto leaving and everything would have gone fine.

Simply put those fillers only real quality is that they do further the story line and remain plot worthy and continuity wise.

I'd disagree about not contradicting the manga, actually the fillers were rather bad about doing that, and these new part 1 fillers have had infamous moments that contradict manga canon. Even that first arc has some issues with contradicting the plot, but yes there's a least an attempt to not contradict the manga too badly and the character interactions between Naruto and Sakura, and Jiraiya, Naruto and Sakura don't stray too far from the manga (actually closer than some of the canon adaptions where they overplayed and stereotyped Sakura's tsundere side for comic effect. I think that's what makes that arc well liked by narusaku fans, Naruto and Sakura's interaction is closer to manga canon than most of their adaptions of part 1 of the manga. They actually get her character just about right for about the first time. The same holds true in the few moments of Naruto and Sakura interactions in the final arc. Sans the stupid villains the canon character interactions are about the closest to manga canon they've done. Naruto doesn't come across as dumber than in the manga in those two arcs either, in contrast to all the other part 1 fillers.

[Black Rose]

It doesn't have the worst fillers. I thought Rurouni Kenshin's pointless fillers were even worse. They could have gone on to the Jinchuu arc, but instead, they made pointless episodes about Kenshin fighting a British knight, traveling on a ship...

Well, I know they aren't the worst but I hate fillers in general, so...

[Toasty Warrior]

Since I haven't given my two cents on the episode, I thought it was just another pointless filler, but there were a few scenes that were cool, overall I'd just say they're holding out for something it seems.

[naruto-z]

I am having the most fun right now with all these fillers. Me and my friend just started a crazy naruto marathon starting all the way from Ep: 1. We're going all the way through baby! (skipping the crap fillers of course) Its actually quite fun...its been years since i've seen episodes from the very beginning. It got almost cheesy with all the stupid naruto and sakura fan girl stuff hahaha. So used to the seriousness of shippuuden

[Serenity Namikaze]

^Same here, I start recently watching from the beginning and even if I do love Shippuden, I can't help but feel refresh watching the episode when all where still innocent and almost carefree compare to now...espacially Naruto ( of course, I'll skip the dreadful fillers after the Naru/Sasu fight)

[naruto-z]

^Same here, I start recently watching from the beginning and even if I do love Shippuden, I can't help but feel refresh watching the episode when all where still innocent and almost carefree compare to now...espacially Naruto ( of course, I'll skip the dreadful fillers after the Naru/Sasu fight)

yeah...its such a different mood in part 1. The really uncomfortable part is that my friend hasn't really ever followed the show at all and doesn't read the manga soooo its torture not to say anything