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[Nawheetos]

That panel of Yahiko dying really looks like Naruto without the whiskers... I've been staring at it for almost five minutes now. XD

O.o Maybe he's related to Kushina. They both have red hair after all.... (well, orange)

...OK so that's a stupid theory

[Sora no Kitsune]

O.o Maybe he's related to Kushina. They both have red hair after all.... (well, orange)

...OK so that's a stupid theory

That is a bit farfetched... I think it's just another team 7 anaolgy, and aparently Kishimoto likes doing this in the manga, building other teams that are similar to team seven, such as the Sannin and Team Minato. Maybe he is just trying to do that again and have the Naruto of the group die, causing his friends to go all evil for his sake. This is just a thought and at this point, Kishimoto could be going anywhere with this and only time will tell.

[catsi563]

its actually a not uncommon story telling tool. Where the badguys and the key goodguys have paralell similarities and stories. but they end up contrasting sometimes violently.

The heroes usually handle their demons better by turning the tragedy into something positive.

the villians handle it poorly by turning the pain into something destructive, but almost allways with good intentions.

which as we all know is what the road to hell is paved with.

[Kori]

I knew Yahiko had to die in this chapter. however i never expected Danzo to be here. Damn is he cruel, not only does he kill the toad for simply asking if he should call Naruto back, now he wants these two bestfriends to fight to the death. WOW

[Paptala]

I knew Yahiko had to die in this chapter. however i never expected Danzo to be here. Damn is he cruel, not only does he kill the toad for simply asking if he should call Naruto back, now he wants these two bestfriends to fight to the death. WOW

I could be wrong, but wasn't it Hanzo who told Yahiko and Nagato to fight to the death?

[Kori]

I could be wrong, but wasn't it Hanzo who told Yahiko and Nagato to fight to the death?

maybe my images were pretty foggy but still he has something to do with it...well...kind of...well probably not completely

[Sora no Kitsune]

I really hope this is Nagato's last chapter of ranting on how bad his life was when Naruto's was far worse than that. I'm starting to get bored and i want to see somesage/kyuubi action Nagato running away or getting beaten, and Naruto, after being the kickass ninja he is, go and see his still awestruken friends. I also want to see this whole Hinata thing concluded because the more time kishimoto speands leaving it open, the more annoying NaruHina fans are getting. Kishimoto has spent enough time on the rant and i think it's about time for it to end.

[jworks]

its actually a not uncommon story telling tool. Where the badguys and the key goodguys have paralell similarities and stories. but they end up contrasting sometimes violently.

The heroes usually handle their demons better by turning the tragedy into something positive.

the villians handle it poorly by turning the pain into something destructive, but almost allways with good intentions.

which as we all know is what the road to hell is paved with.

I quite agree. In order for a "battle", whether physical or some other sort, between a protagonist and antagonist to be interesting and enjoyable to read, they must be almost evenly matched in some way. sometimes its not as obvious as in this case but it rings true for the majority of compelling stories. ask any good fiction writer.

[Paptala]

I really hope this is Nagato's last chapter of ranting on how bad his life was when Naruto's was far worse than that. I'm starting to get bored and i want to see somesage/kyuubi action Nagato running away or getting beaten, and Naruto, after being the kickass ninja he is, go and see his still awestruken friends. I also want to see this whole Hinata thing concluded because the more time kishimoto speands leaving it open, the more annoying NaruHina fans are getting. Kishimoto has spent enough time on the rant and i think it's about time for it to end.

I agree. Honestly, what was the point of Tiny's character anyway? Only about half of the previous chapter was really necessary (aka Nagato meeting Konan and Yahiko). Everything else was just filler basically. I mean, is he really going to refer back to that dog ever again? I doubt it.

I'm ready (and eager) to hear Naruto's answer (both to Nagato and to Hinata).

[Kori]

I agree. Honestly, what was the point of Tiny's character anyway? Only about half of the previous chapter was really necessary (aka Nagato meeting Konan and Yahiko). Everything else was just filler basically. I mean, is he really going to refer back to that dog ever again? I doubt it.

I'm ready (and eager) to hear Naruto's answer (both to Nagato and to Hinata).

the basic signifigance to his character (Tiny's) in my opinion is sort of to help show the signifigance of when Yahiko declares how he dreams to be god and to end all war. i'm guessing it was sort of to serve as Yahiko's "breaking point" or the point where he was fed up with all the death and decided it was time to take action against the one's who were fighting the wars or something like that. or it was to serve as the foreshadowing of Yahiko's death (which was unnecessary on account it's SO obvious) or maybe a foreshadowing of how he dies (that it was sort of unexpected type of how, which would remain true based on how none of us or at least me was expecting him to commit suicide for the survival of the others)

I quite agree. In order for a "battle", whether physical or some other sort, between a protagonist and antagonist to be interesting and enjoyable to read, they must be almost evenly matched in some way. sometimes its not as obvious as in this case but it rings true for the majority of compelling stories. ask any good fiction writer.

agreed and at the same time disagreed. this is one of the best and easiest ways to make it interesting but it is not the only way. i can't think of any examples right now but i've seen other ways and they were interesting. when i think of some i'll post again, unless i never remember or find any...lol
hope i don't seem like a jerk

[Paradox Jast]

These are supposedly confirmed via the spoiler pics we saw.

Spoiler 1 --Click here to view--

Nagato: We decided Yahiko would be the leader, then our organization became famous before we knew it.

Hanzo: If you don't fight to kill each other, this girl dies right here, right now!

Yahiko takes Nagato's kunai and impales himself to save Konan.

Yahiko: Konan, you must survive by any means. You're the angel of this world.

Yahiko dies, this was the second Pain.

Nagato: Supposedly we had matured, grown up... this was exactly like when my parents died.

Nagato: I realized all my answers were just bullsh**.

Sidetext: Nagato's awakening

Spoiler 2, Summary --Click here to view--

Yahiko, Konan and Nagato decided to form an organization and fight against Konoha and Iwa (Ame?). The organization was so big Hanzo couldn't ignore it.

Iwa, Konoha and Yahiko's rebel group manage to declare a ceasefire after years of battle. That's when all hell breaks loose.

The one who awaited them at the place where the ceasefire was supposed to be negotiated was Hanzo, who took Konan as a hostage, and Danzo from Konoha's ANBU.

Konoha and Iwa (Ame?) agreed on a fake ceasefire to bait Yahiko and assassinate him. Hanzo expected his actions would make him a better candidate to the Hokage. (Mis-translated, perhaps Danzo?)

Then Yahiko takes Nagato's hands and commits suicide.

[Kori]

These are supposedly confirmed via the spoiler pics we saw.

Spoiler 1 --Click here to view--

Nagato: We decided Yahiko would be the leader, then our organization became famous before we knew it.

Hanzo: If you don't fight to kill each other, this girl dies right here, right now!

Yahiko takes Nagato's kunai and impales himself to save Konan.

Yahiko: Konan, you must survive by any means. You're the angel of this world.

Yahiko dies, this was the second Pain.

Nagato: Supposedly we had matured, grown up... this was exactly like when my parents died.

Nagato: I realized all my answers were just bullsh**.

Sidetext: Nagato's awakening

Spoiler 2, Summary --Click here to view--

Yahiko, Konan and Nagato decided to form an organization and fight against Konoha and Iwa (Ame?). The organization was so big Hanzo couldn't ignore it.

Iwa, Konoha and Yahiko's rebel group manage to declare a ceasefire after years of battle. That's when all hell breaks loose.

The one who awaited them at the place where the ceasefire was supposed to be negotiated was Hanzo, who took Konan as a hostage, and Danzo from Konoha's ANBU.

Konoha and Iwa (Ame?) agreed on a fake ceasefire to bait Yahiko and assassinate him. Hanzo expected his actions would make him a better candidate to the Hokage. (Mis-translated, perhaps Danzo?)

Then Yahiko takes Nagato's hands and commits suicide.

Its Iwa not Ame because Iwa and Konoha were at war (Third Shinobi War) as we all know from the Kakashi Gaiden Arc. So the (Ame?) if you are thinking they are meaning that instead of Iwa isn't correct (or at least i'm PRETTY sure it isn't)