X-Men Orgins Wolverine
#21
Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:22 PM
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#22
Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:40 AM
Well, I shall go watch the first two movies now to rid my mind of the images.
To be honest it was strongly hinted that Dog was Sabertooth in the first place. So I think its understandable for him to introduce at that point of the movie. And secondly, if you find solace in the first two movies, there's nothing i can do to help you anyway. For a "true" fan of the Marvel Series, none of the movies should have any value, because they all are poor representations of the original work.
#24
Posted 15 April 2009 - 03:57 AM
#25
Posted 15 April 2009 - 07:21 AM
Here's praying for a Deadpool movie...
Edited by Dormin, 15 April 2009 - 07:21 AM.
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#26
Posted 16 April 2009 - 06:24 PM
A few characters in that comic were meant to look or act like characters in the current X-Men Universe. Rose, the red head who Logan has feelings for; Thomas Logan looks like a fully grown Wolverine; Smitty, who Rose eventually falls in love with, is supposed to look like Scott Summers. Even further, he becomes what Logan considers his rival. So while Dog may look or act like Sabertooth, there is the fact that the authors intentionally had people in Logan's past who were meant to look or act like the people in his present.
Also, it has never really been stated if Dog was a mutant or not. Yes, he was very vicious, sadistic, and a great fighter. However, if he was a mutant and if he was Sabertooth, he would have possessed Sabertooth's healing ability, which is just as every bit as good as Logan's. However, it is once again shown that even after years of the 'incident' in Origins that caused Rose and Logan to run away, Dog's scars still have not healed, which is very uncharacteristic of that certain power. And also, it has been generally accepted that Victor Creed is Sabertooth and that he had developed his mutant powers at a young age. Also, in one issue of Wolverine Vol.2, S.H.I.E.L.D. conducts tests that prove that Sabertooth and Logan are not related in anyway. Very few, if any, writers have taken the path that Sabertooth is Dog Logan and have not hinted at it that much.
As to finding solace in the first two movies, while they may be poor representations of the original work, they are still good movies on their own. And, that being said, X2 is considered to be the only movie out of the X-Men movies that closely relates to any of the original work. Many of the movie's ideas are taken from Chris Claremont's early writings and comics. And for me, anything that comes from the early pen of Claremont is pretty much good.
And I don't get the inclusion of "true" in there. I guess I don't know as much as you to be a "true" fan. Of course, I don't care about being a "true" fan. I just care about being a fan who enjoys the series and finds some things that clash with what he has read. That is where my opinion is formed from. If the stuff I see doesn't clash with what I've read, but it clashes with what you've read or interpreted, then it is just a matter of perspective. Nobody is a "true" fan of something. You can only be a fan of what you interpret.
Sorry for the long post. And I apologize if I stepped on anybody's toes. I was just simply presenting my side of the Dog/Sabertooth debate, as I've seen it. If I overstepped my bounds, please let me know.
*Sorrysorry!! I just saw the video you posted, Dormin. I must say, I share your excitement. Wade Wilson is good and all, but like Reynolds said, breaking out Deadpool as if it was straight from the comics would be awesome!! I love Deadpool and his insane, wise-cracking ways!! *
Edited by demonfox04, 16 April 2009 - 06:28 PM.
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#27
Posted 17 April 2009 - 08:29 PM
#28
Posted 17 April 2009 - 09:13 PM
That'd be amazing. Reynolds sounds like he wants to do it and that he'd put his all into it. So if they do, I expect he'll be playin' Deadpool.
"Empty your mind. Be formless, shapeless, like water. Now, you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow, or it can crash. Be water my friend." - Bruce Lee
Whether 1 and 15 or 15 and 1, Superbowl or Toiletbowl...those are my Boys. Ain't no bandwagon here. GO COWBOYS!!!
#29
Posted 20 April 2009 - 07:40 PM
#30
Posted 30 April 2009 - 09:50 PM
I have to work tomorrow, but I was invited by a friend to go to a private showing with some of their coworkers on Saturday morning.
Nothing better than a free movie! (Especially when it's on a big assed screen and legit!)
#31
Posted 01 May 2009 - 04:34 PM
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#32
Posted 01 May 2009 - 11:52 PM
#34
Posted 02 May 2009 - 08:12 AM
Not going with any high standard but look forward to it nonetheless.
#35
Posted 02 May 2009 - 09:23 AM
If this does well there's talk that Jackman and the writers want to do a sequel, this time giving us a live action adaption of the original Claremont/Miller mini. Frankly, I'd like to see that. Japan, Mariko, the samurai ways, just the story in general could make for a good movie even if they take liberty with the source as they always do. So even if this film does actually suck, I must admit I'm secretly rooting for it in the box office.
Edited by dl316bh, 02 May 2009 - 09:24 AM.
#36
Posted 02 May 2009 - 01:47 PM
#37
Posted 04 May 2009 - 11:44 PM
That must of been added after the work print then if that is true. The closest he came from what I saw was when he said "People are dead" after busting into that one guys place and that wasn't breaking the fourth wall.
#38
Posted 05 May 2009 - 01:59 AM
#39
Posted 05 May 2009 - 02:22 AM
I loathed the movies with a passion because they turned Rogue into something she never was, a wimpy damsel in distress, plus how Singer lied as they filmed every movie saying Gambit was going to be in each one of the X-men movies, then admitting each time as the spoilers started coming out- no Gambit. Gambit and Rogue was the couple that came together "by accident" in the comics and became the most popular couple in X-men comics because, like Naruto and Sakura it was a romantic relationship of equals. Fans still love them together. It's so stupid not to have them together in a movie, their romance would not only excite many of the fans, but would draw in tons more new fans. the 90's cartoon series drew in thousands of female readers to X-mencomics just because Gambit and Rogue's romance was a continuing subplot in that series. And with the second cartoon series- Evolution, many fans say the Gambit and Rogue scenes were the highlights of that series.
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#40
Posted 06 May 2009 - 03:21 PM
So much truth in one post I can't just say QFT
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