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#39921 Narufan85

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:01 AM

Have I missed anything fun?

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:03 AM

But that's way different


No, it isn't. He had access to exclusive details that were not readily available to anyone except for those who had attended to early premiere.

He knew somebody who actually saw the early showing of a movie where the early showing was actually a thing
This person just said he saw a preview from and I quote "at the exhibition that only the luckiest people with the lucky ticket were allowed to see.".Which to my knowledge nobody has heard of such exhibition


Oh yes, the old debacle over whether or not the full movie was actually previewed. Well this person was able to provide a general summation of the core events of the film's story which TakL referenced. The questionability of this source's knowledge of the film was silenced when the premiere on the 6th of December coincided with what he stated.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:04 AM

Have I missed anything fun?

 

Nope. More BS from Kishi. Apparently there will be two more chapters that will have a NH and a SS kissing scene and Kushina so post to be resurrected. Lol. I know. Kishi is so kittened up in the head.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:06 AM

Kishi will write a seinen ? Does the man really think he is mature enough to handle much more realistic themes when he has already failed so hard with Naruto ? Kishi is really out of touch with reality.


That's the conclusion I got from kishi and his old editor interview.
He seem like more enjoy writing seinen. We will see if he could do that, Eventhought I really doubt he could make good seinen manga.

Kishi doesn't has talent in writing, only his art(drawing emotional scene) and that's it. Maybe he could make romcom manga. But romance in this manga already terrible.

Btw nice avatar ^^b. A true berserk fan will put guts as his avatar lol :P

@michi
Seinen is age demographic for young man or man age 17 to 45 years old.
It has more mature tone and logical story telling. Because the target demographic is much more adult.
For example,
In shonen manga, heroic character never kill.
In seinen manga, heroic character kill when necessary.

Josei is for mature woman.
I started read seinen manga when I goes in college. And I like it.
But it will not as popular as shonen manga.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:08 AM

 
Nope. More BS from Kishi. Apparently there will be two more chapters that will have a NH and a SS kissing scene and Kushina so post to be resurrected. Lol. I know. Kishi is so f**cked up in the head.


This information has a high chance to be fake though, the one who talked about it is a NH fan that is a renowed troll in tumblr (Narusaku 4life confirmed this fact)

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:10 AM

Is the NH fandom that huge that it can make up for the fail that this movie is ? NH fandom is part of a larger Naruto fandom which isn't that big to begin with, maybe I'm underestimating them but it does seem quite optimistic to think the West is going to save them when the japanese fanbase is far bigger than all the other countries combined. They are really making a huge gamble.

you hit the money. there are way more fans who care about the story than the romance, so of course turning this series into a shoujo was a huge gamble like you pointed out.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:10 AM

This information has a high chance to be fake though, the one who talked about it is a NH fan that is a renowed troll in tumblr (Narusaku 4life confirmed this fact)

 

I think it's true.

Kishi is doing kitten right now. IMO even the worse NH troll wouldn't even imagine to revive Minato and Kushina again.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:11 AM

That's the conclusion I got from kishi and his old editor interview.
He seem like more enjoy writing seinen. We will see if he could do that, Eventhought I really doubt he could make good seinen manga.

Kishi doesn't has talent in writing, only his art(drawing emotional scene) and that's it. Maybe he could make romcom manga. But romance in this manga already terrible.

Btw nice avatar ^^b. A true berserk fan will put guts as his avatar lol :P

@michi
Seinen is age demographic for young man or man age 17 to 45 years old.
It has more mature tone and logical story telling. Because the target demographic is much more adult.
For example,
In shonen manga, heroic character never kill.
In seinen manga, heroic character kill when necessary.

Josei is for mature woman.
I started read seinen manga when I goes in college. And I like it.
But it will not as popular as shonen manga.


Not exactly DBZ is a shonen and goku killed a lot of villains

Naruto is probably one of the only one shonen manga that the protagonist never killed some villain

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:11 AM

This is a joke.. this animation studio is by far the worst I've ever seen. :wot: Look at Naruto falling!!  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:  :lmao:
 
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I always burst out laughing when I see this gif.

MY GOD.

Such kitten animation makes me want to cry.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:15 AM

About Kishi's next work being a Seinen manga, I mean I wouldn't put it past him. He did make the Mario One-shot I believe that was classified as a seinen (unless I'm wrong) so I guess he's got the potential. 


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:15 AM

Not exactly DBZ is a shonen and goku killed a lot of villains

Naruto is probably one of the only one shonen manga that the protagonist never killed some villain

Goku never killed anyone that I can remember. The only person he "killed" was Kid Buu, but he knew that Buu was going to get reincarnated into a good guy, so that doesn't really count. 


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:15 AM

Not exactly DBZ is a shonen and goku killed a lot of villains

Naruto is probably one of the only one shonen manga that the protagonist never killed some villain

I forget to add killing human character. Humanoid doesn't include, especially if that said humanoid doesn't resemble human.
Ofc there's exception but I rarely see that. No I never see that.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:15 AM

That's the conclusion I got from kishi and his old editor interview.
He seem like more enjoy writing seinen. We will see if he could do that, Eventhought I really doubt he could make good seinen manga.
Kishi doesn't has talent in writing, only his art(drawing emotional scene) and that's it. Maybe he could make romcom manga. But romance in this manga already terrible.
Btw nice avatar ^^b. A true berserk fan will put guts as his avatar lol :P

lol no thanks the man has already a hard time with shonen and simple characters I don't want to see him try to write complex characters, enough nonsense.

I like a lot of Berserk characters but no one can come close to Guts, in fact he's in a league of his own compared ro any other character I have ever seen. Yes I'm a fangirl and proud of it.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:18 AM

That's the conclusion I got from kishi and his old editor interview.
He seem like more enjoy writing seinen. We will see if he could do that, Eventhought I really doubt he could make good seinen manga.

Kishi doesn't has talent in writing, only his art(drawing emotional scene) and that's it. Maybe he could make romcom manga. But romance in this manga already terrible.

The editor mean Yusuke Takahi/Tahagi? Oh, please correct me. It's the interview that came before movie, right?


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:19 AM

He is not capable of writting seinen. I'm sorry.


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:22 AM

Please no SS kiss scene. Spare my eyes and heart.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:22 AM

He is not capable of writting seinen. I'm sorry.

he's not capable of writing anything. 


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:26 AM

he's not capable of writing anything. 

He was, but only with the right editors.


 


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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:28 AM

you hit the money. there are way more fans who care about the story than the romance, so of course turning this series into a shoujo was a huge gamble like you pointed out.

I feel like they are trying to reach an international market but these markets are already oversatured. Seriously who will read Bolt's stories ? who the kitten cares execpt NH fans and even them don't give a crap they just wanted Hinata hime sama to get her sex toy. The last is just for harcore NH fans, majority of Naruto fandom were interested in the story that’s why there was less and less Narutofans in the west because the story was deteriorating and now that the manga ended most neutral Naruto fans left, they just have the remaining NH/SS fans, let's see how far it will get them it really seems to me a stupid move, only time will tell.

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Posted 26 December 2014 - 03:29 AM

 
The pamphlet is what people received on the opening premier of The Last. The pamphlet briefly explains the scene of the movie and characters background and on the NS final parting moment, kishi wrote that both Naruto and Sakura see each other as a romantic interest even past chapter 699. Here it is from Ramen (that suddenly went AWOL:argh:  :wallbash:)
 

The pamphlet was confirmed by Rikudou from a tweet from the Jump Festa.

Now this may explain why Sasuke is so distant from his family (with that family portrait at the Jump Festa). The SS marriage may just be loveless and Sasuke knows the truth that Sakura's in love with Naruto and probably marry her due to her request to fulfill her rejection of Naruto due to her cannot get over Sasuke (although its more likely a lie to sacrifice her happiness for Hinata's sake and her possibly feeling undeserving of Naruto's affection). How do we still know Naruto's in love with Sakura? His drinking depression problem and how he neglects his family. I bet he had to be the best man for the SS wedding and it tore his heart apart again after Hinata had healed it with their marriage.

Sad thing is Naruto does not even know that Sakura loves him despite being married to his best friend. I would not put it past him to divorce Hinata if one ounce of this knowledge has been presented to him. Only Sasuke can do this. 

Maybe this means NS will happen because of a divorce or something. Sasuke tells Naruto how Sakura really feels ect ect. It's not uncommon in stories/manga/anime,were people find out that person loves them and they cone together. I mean i could see Sakura sacrificing her happiness for Hinata+ her thinking she isn't worthy of Naruto. Naruto scarified his happiness to bring Sasuke back for Sakura. He even said He didn't think he deserved Sakura because he had brought Sasuke back yet.


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