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[Strangelove]

I highly doubt he's gonna lose the Kyuubi. What if he gets the other half of Kyuubi chakra back? Without the Kyuubi he has to get stronger miraculously.
Naruto with the whole Kyuubi chakra + Bee would have as much chakra as Madara at the moment. Though I think that Madara is gonna use the Zetsus to gather chakra.

We can do this, all the tailed beast have a chakra of 1,000 based on the number of they're tails.

Shukaku has 1000

Bakeneko has 2000

Giant turtle has 3000

the Ape thing has 4000

The weird looking...what the heck is that has 5000

the even weirder looking has 6000

the bug has 7000

Hachibi has 8000

Kyuubi has 9000

now add 1,000 + 2000 + 3000 + 4000 + 5000 + 6000 + 7000 = 28000 that is how much Madara has in its arsenal.

on the Hachibi and Kyuubi is 8000 + 9000 = 17000 that's how much they're powers combined would make.

The difference is quite big though 11000 now consider uniting all of it together, the Juubi would have a power of well...around 45000 which would be a complete disaster to all that stand in its way.



PSS I just came up with the numbers completely randomly

Edited by Strangelove, 11 June 2011 - 08:05 PM.

[Amrikandesi93]

I highly doubt he's gonna lose the Kyuubi. What if he gets the other half of Kyuubi chakra back? Without the Kyuubi he has to get stronger miraculously.
Naruto with the whole Kyuubi chakra + Bee would have as much chakra as Madara at the moment. Though I think that Madara is gonna use the Zetsus to gather chakra.

Maybe he will lose the kyuubi but he will still live on and fight Madara.
We get to see Sakura and everyone else cry for him b/c they think that he is dead, but he somehow survives b/c of his Uzumaki blood.

Congrats on Page 200 Of the NS thread!!

[The Tax-Man]

We can do this, all the tailed beast have a chakra of 1,000 based on the number of they're tails.

Shukaku has 1000

Bakeneko has 2000

Giant turtle has 3000

the Ape thing has 4000

The weird looking...what the heck is that has 5000

the even weirder looking has 6000

the bug has 7000

Hachibi has 8000

Kyuubi has 9000

now add 1,000 + 2000 + 3000 + 4000 + 5000 + 6000 + 7000 = 28000 that is how much Madara has in its arsenal.

on the Hachibi and Kyuubi is 8000 + 9000 = 17000 that's how much they're powers combined would make.

The difference is quite big though 11000 now consider uniting all of it together, the Juubi would have a power of well...around 45000 which would be a complete disaster to all that stand in its way.



PSS I just came up with the numbers completely randomly

Those numbers make sense, but don't represent the manga. It has been said in it that the Hachibi and Kyuubi together have more chakra than all other Bijuu combined, if I remember correctly. I tend to believe that their powers increase exponentially by each Bijuu, not linearly as this represents. So the Kyuubi wouldn't be only 12.5% stronger than the Hachibi but have many times bigger reserves than Hachibi.

Think this way. Splitting the beasts, by the RS, in a linear fashion would be stupid. That is because the beasts could easily reunite to form the Juubi. By far, if the chakra is distributed at an accelerating fashion, it becomes harder to have the numbers and the amounts line up. Mathematically, this makes no sense and it is almost impossible to combine them again. I'm not going to really go into it since most people wouldn't get it but lets just say this: If the chakra was distributed like that, Madara wouldn't NEED to fight the world. The Juubi would be recreated naturally, since that is the most probable state.

As for the time-skip, I'd like to think that it would be no more than two chapters. Just to wrap it up. And the losing Kyuubi, well first off it's been debated for years and I tend to see people conclude it's unlikely. Amrikandesi93, what you said, It's like the thousandth time I've heard it. It's contradictory. There would be no point in wasting 200+ chapters on that issue to get it to what it is and then do a complete cop-out.

Oh and we made it to two centuries. Now we just have to get to over 9000!

Edited by The Tax-Man, 11 June 2011 - 08:30 PM.

[rastaman]

We can do this, all the tailed beast have a chakra of 1,000 based on the number of they're tails.

Shukaku has 1000

Bakeneko has 2000

Giant turtle has 3000

the Ape thing has 4000

The weird looking...what the heck is that has 5000

the even weirder looking has 6000

the bug has 7000

Hachibi has 8000

Kyuubi has 9000

now add 1,000 + 2000 + 3000 + 4000 + 5000 + 6000 + 7000 = 28000 that is how much Madara has in its arsenal.

on the Hachibi and Kyuubi is 8000 + 9000 = 17000 that's how much they're powers combined would make.

The difference is quite big though 11000 now consider uniting all of it together, the Juubi would have a power of well...around 45000 which would be a complete disaster to all that stand in its way.



PSS I just came up with the numbers completely randomly

Yea, but Madara has used quite some chakra for the Zetsu army. Ginkaku and Kinkaku don't make up for the loss.
That's why Kabuto considers Madara a fool.

Edited by rastaman, 11 June 2011 - 09:28 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Know what?! I'm swearing off Narutopedia until the series ends or NS becomes official because random biased idiots keep tinkering with the parts about the romance and couples parts! sheesh!

[Strangelove]

Know what?! I'm swearing off Narutopedia until the series ends or NS becomes official because random biased idiots keep tinkering with the parts about the romance and couples parts! sheesh!

Your swearing off NF i never joined NF xD

[bthug]

Yeah, it's highly likely we'll have another time jump, like an epilogue. That's what I'm afraid of. That we won't get all the feelings resolved, we'll just see Naruto and Sakura in the future having kids etc. It's happened in FMA, it's happened to some degree in Inuyasha, just to name a few. I've see that sort of ending in a lot of manga.

This is actually what I see happening also, like u said it happens a lot and this way they avoid the heavy romance and still give closure.

We can do this, all the tailed beast have a chakra of 1,000 based on the number of they're tails.

Shukaku has 1000

Bakeneko has 2000

Giant turtle has 3000

the Ape thing has 4000

The weird looking...what the heck is that has 5000

the even weirder looking has 6000

the bug has 7000

Hachibi has 8000

Kyuubi has 9000

now add 1,000 + 2000 + 3000 + 4000 + 5000 + 6000 + 7000 = 28000 that is how much Madara has in its arsenal.

on the Hachibi and Kyuubi is 8000 + 9000 = 17000 that's how much they're powers combined would make.

The difference is quite big though 11000 now consider uniting all of it together, the Juubi would have a power of well...around 45000 which would be a complete disaster to all that stand in its way.



PSS I just came up with the numbers completely randomly

All I can say to this is that Naruto might need Goku's help

Maybe he will lose the kyuubi but he will still live on and fight Madara.
We get to see Sakura and everyone else cry for him b/c they think that he is dead, but he somehow survives b/c of his Uzumaki blood.


Congrats on Page 200 Of the NS thread!!

Yea that would be cool, for him to be able to save the world without its power.

And yea I'm pretty sure the powers are exponential like squaring numbers.

Another thing to add is that we might not get official marriages/kids cause idk if kishi would make Naruto old, I mean wouldn't u want to make your character timeless my preserving his youth...then again kishi does put emphasizes on the next generation.

[hothead]

You know I'm not really sure about this but it was a thought that occurred to me while reading the thread, but before I post it i have a question when Orochimaru invaded Konohagakure and used edo tensei to summon the first and second Hokage, who was the last box that failed to be summoned? Was it Minato?

[Gravenimage]

It's over 9000!

[Super Boom]

You know I'm not really sure about this but it was a thought that occurred to me while reading the thread, but before I post it i have a question when Orochimaru invaded Konohagakure and used edo tensei to summon the first and second Hokage, who was the last box that failed to be summoned? Was it Minato?

I think that was the implication. I recall reading somewhere that the characters on the three tombs (I don't remember if it was Kanji or Kana) were Japanese for 1,2, and 4. So it makes sense.

[hothead]

I think that was the implication. I recall reading somewhere that the characters on the three tombs (I don't remember if it was Kanji or Kana) were Japanese for 1,2, and 4. So it makes sense.

Ok thanks for clearing that up for me pal! Now on with what I had to say, um technically Naruto doesn't have to lose the kyuubi for the juubi to be revived, since (again this is only a theory) Madara has Kabuto on his side and Kabuto can use edo tensei, and we all know that the Yondaime also has half of the Kyuubi's chakra inside him...

[Phantom_999]

good theory except any person in the shiki fujin can not be revived meaning all of the hokages that are dead from Hashirama to to Minato

[Strangelove]

No, he is going to have it extracted. The thing he is going to survive the extraction, that is where the secret is <3

[hothead]

good theory except any person in the shiki fujin can not be revived meaning all of the hokages that are dead from Hashirama to to Minato

Whoops! I completely forgot about that one tiny detail... Ah man, well that goes that theory...

[bthug]

I think that was the implication. I recall reading somewhere that the characters on the three tombs (I don't remember if it was Kanji or Kana) were Japanese for 1,2, and 4. So it makes sense.

That's insane that Orchimaru was trying to use Minato, if he did that would have been the end of the hidden leaf. That moment is so under shadowed.

[Phantom_999]

Well he TRIED to! If he succeeded it would have been all over for Hizuren right then and there

[hothead]

Now I'm just plain curious... I know that what phantom said about anyone using the shiki fujin not being able to be revived, and I'm sure that Orochimaru knew that as well, so them why would he even try to revive the Yondaime if he knew he was going to fail?
Ugh, my head hurts...

[ciardha]

Now I'm just plain curious... I know that what phantom said about anyone using the shiki fujin not being able to be revived, and I'm sure that Orochimaru knew that as well, so them why would he even try to revive the Yondaime if he knew he was going to fail?
Ugh, my head hurts...

Probably to test to make sure it was true that it would fail.

[Fyuria'sLeo]

Ya thats really all Orochimaru was trying to do. Just testing the theory of no being able to revive anyone who used shiki fujin.

[Super Boom]

Now I'm just plain curious... I know that what phantom said about anyone using the shiki fujin not being able to be revived, and I'm sure that Orochimaru knew that as well, so them why would he even try to revive the Yondaime if he knew he was going to fail?
Ugh, my head hurts...

Well, I doubt Kishi had planned that far ahead during the Leaf Invasion Arc. If he wanted to make it happen back then, Orochimaru probably would've summoned the Yondaime. I'm pretty sure that Minato being Naruto's dad was planned out from the beginning, so that's probably why he avoided bringing Minato into the plot at that point. The whole 'not being able to revive someone who used shiki fujin' idea probably wasn't developed till later.

But that's just explaining it Kishi's perspective. As far as the story goes, it's probably something simple, like that Orochimaru didn't know about the rule, or didn't care.