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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:29 PM

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I've got a question... Anywhere, in the entire series, did Hinata ever say that it was her goal to marry Naruto?

Think back to the Neji/Hinata fight and all that "I'll change the Hyuuga clan" thing Naruto said. Was marriage or anything romantic of the sort mentioned?

Nope not at all

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Posted 22 February 2010 - 11:34 PM

QUOTE (Froot @ Feb 22 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've got a question... Anywhere, in the entire series, did Hinata ever say that it was her goal to marry Naruto?

Think back to the Neji/Hinata fight and all that "I'll change the Hyuuga clan" thing Naruto said. Was marriage or anything romantic of the sort mentioned?


Just because Naruto said he was going to change the Hyuga clan it doesn't mean that he's going to marry Hinata. I don't remember Naruto saying in his fight with Neji" I will marry Hinata in order to change the Hyuga clan". Honestly this is just another plot of desperation by N/H fans who they must be climbing the walls right now because they are dead nervous with the last chapters. Hinata's lack of face time in the manga (last time she was seen was back at 459 and she didn't said a word) and Naruto not even thinking about her after her confession, Sakura's confession and now her resolve to kill Sasuke. All of this is pointing to the end of N/H (to me it has always been dead since the beginning of the manga).

Getting back to topic Naruto can change the Hyuga clan without marrying Hinata. As Hokage he can change the clan even if the Hokage doesn't have any voice and opinion in the affairs of the Hyuga clan. But Naruto is destine to become the best Hokage ever I'm sure he can voice his opinion to the clan in order to change it the right way with his words. Remember his gift, his words can change people for the better. I am certain that he can change Hiashi's mind as well as the Hyuga council. sleep.gif

Hinata never said that she wanted to marry Naruto. She wanted his acknowledgement as well as her father's. She only has admiration for Naruto even in the bond charts of all the data books she has the arrow with the kanji word which means" admiration" towards Naruto so it's completely different from love. Hinata has never love Naruto romantically she had a deep admiration because he was the one that drove her to get confidence and become strong. Even in her confession she stated things that were more of idolization rather than romantic. She told him I love you but that love you was more of in the friendship admiration basis than love romantic in general.

Edited by Gravenimage, 23 February 2010 - 11:24 AM.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:54 AM

iv been thinkin gin an unbiased way and ill be blunt sakuras feelings for both boys are still ambiguous

kishi is making narusaku abit obvious but its still ambiguous. her feelings for sasuke are still lingering feelings until she saw him i felt that her thoughts of him recently(him not being able to be saved and being an criminal). i feel that the confrontation that just happen it sparks her doubts , i see fear in her when she looks at him, and sad that he is no longer the boy she loved. that expression when she was looking at him after kakashi saved proved she still had lingering feelings fo him, but she also sees that he is no longer readable


naruto she does feel something for him i feel its stronger of what shes feeling for sasuke but she is still getting use to all of these changes

TO ME SAKURA IS CONFUSED ABOUT everything. i feel somthing will change her this arc, i dont feel she will block an attack for naruto i feel she is going to see naruto really get hur and i mean really get her.

call me crazy but i kind of starting believe that shes going to be fine in this ark

and i fear for kakashi

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 08:02 AM

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I've got a question... Anywhere, in the entire series, did Hinata ever say that it was her goal to marry Naruto?

Think back to the Neji/Hinata fight and all that "I'll change the Hyuuga clan" thing Naruto said. Was marriage or anything romantic of the sort mentioned?


Nope. Never somebody stated something of the sort.

On an unrelated note, I find very funny how Sakura confesses Naruto and everybody scream: "Liar!" in spite of she got mad when Naruto accused her from deluding herself about Sasuke and she shouted to him: "Don't give me excuses! Don't tell me what I am feeling!"; but when she stated Sasuke she wanted joining him, all shout: "She is being sincere!" in spite of it was blatantly obvious she was trying tricking him and her very thoughts confirmed it was a cover.

Come on. Given the character's evolution, the plot's development and the last twenty-five chapters (how many times it was stated -and repeated!- for a bunch of characters -including Sakura herself!- she was determined to move on and she wanted killing Sasuke for the sake of Naruto and of Sasuke himself?) did you seriously thought she was serious about joining Sasuke?

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:22 AM

Haha! The day Hinata and Naruto get married is the day Kishimoto-sama loses his memory and is attacked by NaruHina fangirls/boys lmao. xD that would be down right stupid I think, no development what-so-ever and I've strangley only thought of Hinata as a sister figure; she's better off with Kiba because he's on her team so they gotta have some development plus Kiba is just like Naruto in goofyness-energy. Perfect match, KibaHina all the way :] lmfao. NaruSaku for the win.

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Well, Hinata probably can't be with either Kiba and especially Naruto because one, I don't think her father will want her to date one of the most powerful Jinchuuriki's (Nine-Tails) and also he probably making her marry within' the bloodline, keeping the Byakugan within' the Hyuuga clan. To be continued...

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 11:38 AM

QUOTE (Jenskott @ Feb 23 2010, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nope. Never somebody stated something of the sort.

On an unrelated note, I find very funny how Sakura confesses Naruto and everybody scream: "Liar!" in spite of she got mad when Naruto accused her from deluding herself about Sasuke and she shouted to him: "Don't give me excuses! Don't tell me what I am feeling!"; but when she stated Sasuke she wanted joining him, all shout: "She is being sincere!" in spite of it was blatantly obvious she was trying tricking him and her very thoughts confirmed it was a cover.

Come on. Given the character's evolution, the plot's development and the last twenty-five chapters (how many times it was stated -and repeated!- for a bunch of characters -including Sakura herself!- she was determined to move on and she wanted killing Sasuke for the sake of Naruto and of Sasuke himself?) did you seriously thought she was serious about joining Sasuke?


I think you already know the answer to that question. Most of the people that say Sakura was lying in her confession are the haters. Here's the absolute truth the Sakura haters will always see her as part 1 Sasuke fan girl no matter how much she has changed. It doesn't matter if Kishi has spent 300+ chapters developing her character they will always see her as the annoying shallow girl who is always thinking about Sasuke. Even 483 has a hidden message with the quote of the cover page of the chapter clearly saying that Sakura has changed and with her resolve to kill Sasuke. It's like Kishi himself is telling everyone including the haters "people Sakura has changed she has matured she's no longer the Sasuke fan girl from part 1" But obviously his voice has fallen on deaf ears at least for the haters. The people who doesn't hate Sakura and are realistic can clearly tell that she was being honest in her confession.

However I find it funny about the haters who are obviously big time N/H fans. They are always saying Hinata loves Naruto. Yet in the data book as I mentioned before she always has the arrow with the word admiration pointing towards him. Admiration and love are two different things, yet N/H fans don't care about that, they shrugged it off or ignored it saying that Hinata loves Naruto romantically and not in a idolization way. I think it makes sense they will never admit that Sakura has changed and they will always believe Hinata loves Naruto for real.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:49 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 23 2010, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you already know the answer to that question. Most of the people that say Sakura was lying in her confession are the haters. Here's the absolute truth the Sakura haters will always see her as part 1 Sasuke fan girl no matter how much she has changed. It doesn't matter if Kishi has spent 300+ chapters developing her character they will always see her as the annoying shallow girl who is always thinking about Sasuke. Even 483 has a hidden message with the quote of the cover page of the chapter clearly saying that Sakura has changed and with her resolve to kill Sasuke. It's like Kishi himself is telling everyone including the haters "people Sakura has changed she has matured she's no longer the Sasuke fan girl from part 1" But obviously his voice has fallen on deaf ears at least for the haters. The people who doesn't hate Sakura and are realistic can clearly tell that she was being honest in her confession.

However I find it funny about the haters who are obviously big time N/H fans. They are always saying Hinata loves Naruto. Yet in the data book as I mentioned before she always has the arrow with the word admiration pointing towards him. Admiration and love are two different things, yet N/H fans don't care about that, they shrugged it off or ignored it saying that Hinata loves Naruto romantically and not in a idolization way. I think it makes sense they will never admit that Sakura has changed and they will always believe Hinata loves Naruto for real.


good point,post

they also forget NH is NOT A REAL PAIRING IN JAPAN IT'S A CRAKE PAIRING like said befor haters will be haters. In japan NS is more populer than NH as well as sakura is more populer than hinata.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:53 PM

..Is is it just me guys, but why people, are still saying N/S had a platonic development? huh.gif and if you will retort them, they will say Sakura lied in the confession or Sakura still loves Sasuke or Sasuke needs to revive his clan or SS must happen or NH must happen because they have more romantic development? huh.gif

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:04 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 01:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..Is is it just me guys, but why people, are still saying N/S had a platonic development? huh.gif and if you will retort them, they will say Sakura lied in the confession or Sakura still loves Sasuke or Sasuke needs to revive his clan or SS must happen or NH must happen because they have more romantic development? huh.gif

They hate NS and will seek any possible way to excuse it from being cannon. 450 the hug there faces were all but tuching that is not platunic.How about when naruto returnd with J-man she was sexly flirting with him.
As for ss,nh development they dont have much to begin with the platunic excuse is a very weak argument to begin with.

Yeah 483 sasuke really wanted to revive his clan lol he dosent want love he wants deth and distruction,revenge they blind themselfs they only love sasuke hate sakura see her as a baby maker(throws up).

All and all it no diffrint than them ignoreing sakuras development jest ignore them they will never change.

Edited by SS3 Goku, 23 February 2010 - 02:09 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:08 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 05:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..Is is it just me guys, but why people, are still saying N/S had a platonic development? huh.gif and if you will retort them, they will say Sakura lied in the confession or Sakura still loves Sasuke or Sasuke needs to revive his clan or SS must happen or NH must happen because they have more romantic development? huh.gif


Well it's not enough for them to say that N/H and S/S must happen why?

1. Because they are popular pairings based on western culture in other countries except Japan.

2. Those pairings have to become canon because if they don't they will hate Kishi forever and they will stop reading the manga and his wallet depends on it. dry.gif facepalm.png (I know lame excuse)

3. Like you said those pairings have more romantic development than N/S sweatdrop.gif (I seriously don't know how is this possible if they rarely see each other)

4. Like SS3 Goku said N/H in Japan is crack pairing and Sakura is more popular than Hinata as well as N/S being famous.

Also the only pairings I see with platonic development are N/H and S/S since they lack the development. Sakura rarely sees Sasuke in the manga as well as Naruto and Hinata.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:15 PM

kish was disapointed in nhat the 2010 interview nh closed in 450 no argument closed.

ss was hit pritty hardlast chapter i wont say dead but close there in desperation,denile.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:19 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 23 2010, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well it's not enough for them to say that N/H and S/S must happen why?

1. Because they are popular pairings based on western culture in other countries except Japan.

2. Those pairings have to become canon because if they don't they will hate Kishi forever and they will stop reading the manga and his wallet depends on it. dry.gif facepalm.png (I know lame excuse)

3. Like you said those pairings have more romantic development than N/S sweatdrop.gif (I seriously don't know how is this possible if they rarely see each other)

4. Like SS3 Goku said N/H in Japan is crack pairing and Sakura is more popular than Hinata as well as N/S being famous.

Also the only pairings I see with platonic development are N/H and S/S since they lack the development. Sakura rarely sees Sasuke in the manga as well as Naruto and Hinata.

Oh i see..Thanks Graven and SS3 Goku.. smile.gif
Anyhow, one nh fan stated that N/S had no more romantic development, even the Yamato's speech is not a romantic development or even Sai's revelation of Naruito's feelings.THEY ARE NOT ALSO HINTS. Plus Sakura's confession to Naruto is a lie.
The only romantic that happened in part 2 is hinata's confession and Sai's revelation of true Sakura's feelings to Naruto after her confession, that she still loves sasuke. rolleyes.gif facepalm.png

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 23 February 2010 - 02:24 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:25 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 07:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh i see..Thanks Graven and SS3 Goku.. smile.gif
Anyhow, one nh fan stated that N/S had no more romantic development, even the Yamato's speech is not a romantic development or even Sai's revelation of Naruito's feelings. Plus Sakura's confession to Naruto is a lie.
The only romantic that happened in part 2 is hinata's confession and Sai's revelation of true Sakura's feelings to Naruto after her confession, that she still loves sasuke. rolleyes.gif facepalm.png


Really? wot.gif that N/H fan is suffering from a serious case of denial, but then again aren't all N/H fans the same? fu.png
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:34 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh i see..Thanks Graven and SS3 Goku.. smile.gif
Anyhow, one nh fan stated that N/S had no more romantic development, even the Yamato's speech is not a romantic development or even Sai's revelation of Naruito's feelings.THEY ARE NOT ALSO HINTS. Plus Sakura's confession to Naruto is a lie.
The only romantic that happened in part 2 is hinata's confession and Sai's revelation of true Sakura's feelings to Naruto after her confession, that she still loves sasuke. rolleyes.gif facepalm.png

i lol at peoples denile this person is a serios case operation is needed. lol
really thow whats there backup to there clame,nothing
They ignore every thing except there pairing sad really


no problem this is geting old from them thow

Edited by SS3 Goku, 23 February 2010 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 23 2010, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really? wot.gif that N/H fan is suffering from a serious case of denial, but then again aren't all N/H fans the same? fu.png

Oh, well happy.gif
They are kinda all the same.. but i think, the hardcore ones are stating this. fu.png
Where can you get interpretations like a moment that ambiguous/platonic moment, even there is a presenece of blushing or even there is a hint. hm.png
BLUSH=DIRT ON THE FACE laugh.gif

Edited by pinkheartsyellowstars, 23 February 2010 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 02:39 PM

LOL ^ i forgot about that itsnot a blush it's jest dirt

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:21 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh i see..Thanks Graven and SS3 Goku.. smile.gif
Anyhow, one nh fan stated that N/S had no more romantic development, even the Yamato's speech is not a romantic development or even Sai's revelation of Naruito's feelings.THEY ARE NOT ALSO HINTS. Plus Sakura's confession to Naruto is a lie.
The only romantic that happened in part 2 is hinata's confession and Sai's revelation of true Sakura's feelings to Naruto after her confession, that she still loves sasuke. rolleyes.gif facepalm.png


What the point to the speech that Yamato-taichou gave to Sakura if it was to confirm something that we already know, like the fact that she care for him as a friend. Yamato-taichou wouldn't have make that speech just for that, in my point of view. As for Sai revelation or 'guilt trip' to Sakura, they always seem to forget the little flashback when Sai confront Naruto about his feeling for Sakura. They also seem to forget that, in that same moment, Sakura actually cry for Naruto ( of course, because she feel guilty but when does felling guilty exclude loving someone? Personnally, I would say that it could be a great proof that she care for him a great deal and that could mean more then just worry about a friend.)

I think that what bug the SS and NH fan is that most of the hint were point by Sai and Yamato-taichou.

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BLUSH=DIRT ON THE FACE laugh.gif


Nice one laugh.gif

Edited by silverserenity, 23 February 2010 - 03:23 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:23 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 23 2010, 07:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh, well happy.gif
They are kinda all the same.. but i think, the hardcore ones are stating this. fu.png
Where can you get interpretations like a moment that ambiguous/platonic moment, even there is a presenece of blushing or even there is a hint. hm.png
BLUSH=DIRT ON THE FACE laugh.gif


Oh yeah I have heard dozens of those denial excuses from them. Like 469 Naruto blushed when Sakura told him she loves him because it was cold and snowing dry.gif facepalm.png . Also Sakura blushing on both occasions because she made herself blush to make her confession more believable which brings us to believe that everyone n the manga has the ability to blush at his own free will.

I'm going to try it! woot.gif here it comes!

Blush no jutsu! whatthekitten.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 23 February 2010 - 03:27 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:25 PM

LOL^

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 03:32 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 23 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh yeah I have heard dozens of those denial excuses from them. Like 469 Naruto blushed when Sakura told him she loves him because it was cold and snowing dry.gif facepalm.png .


huh.gif OK...and if that would have been the case then Sakura wouln't be dress only with a skirt and t-shirt!

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