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#3881 BlazingDynamo

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:11 PM

I think this chapter is supposed to represent the final stages of Sakura finally getting over Sasuke for good. I will say say that it's a little annoying that Kishi keeps on dancing around the main issue, but hopefully he'll get around to it. 

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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:13 PM

Oh God. So let's clarify for everyone, Sakura still loves Sasuke, however it's not romantic anymore. She loves him as Naruto loves him, for God knows what reason.

At least that's why I understood from the translations of the raws.

Sakura loves Sasuke that I get. Romantic feeling, was more my issues with all the different translation . From a logical and story POV, I agree with everything you said and I believe mangareader just make a mistake by translate it in English and Viz translation is right. What I don't get is why translation like Mangastream existed (that were I've got confused, how could you change a context that much) I mean if they're wrong, don't they have a reputation or something that get hurt by making error like that?.



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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:26 PM

Sakura loves Sasuke that I get. Romantic feeling, was more my issues with all the different translation . From a logical and story POV, I agree with everything you said and I believe mangareader just make a mistake by translate it in English and Viz translation is right. What I don't get is why translation like Mangastream existed (that were I've got confused, how could you change a context that much) I mean if they're wrong, don't they have a reputation or something that get hurt by making error like that?.

Stream has a tendency to alter the dialog when it comes to NH/SS.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:27 PM

Sakura loves Sasuke that I get. Romantic feeling, was more my issues with all the different translation . From a logical and story POV, I agree with everything you said and I believe mangareader just make a mistake by translate it in English and Viz translation is right. What I don't get is why translation like Mangastream existed (that were I've got confused, how could you change a context that much) I mean if they're wrong, don't they have a reputation or something that get hurt by making error like that?.

They tend to change the context to what meaning they think fits better, makes it super confusing alot of the time....atleast they have it in HD.

 

I still don't really like how unlike Kakashi Sakura didn't see Naruto off the interaction was exclusively with Sasuke...cuz god forbid Naruto gets the spotlight in his own goddamn manga it was the same with the chunnin exam arc even after Naruto proved to everyone what he's capable of everyone instead was focused on the uchiha kid whose only fight they saw was when he was cowering on the floor in pain.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:35 PM

How wasn't the confession romantic? 



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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:41 PM

In this chapter if she had went full against Sasuke and literally said "GTFO" everyone would have started to have respect for her; too bad she blew it.

 

 

How was that not a confession of love? she clearly poured her heart out fr him. NS shipper or not, you're going t have to except it.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 11:48 PM

How wasn't the confession romantic? 

Well for one thing she wasn't confessing and her intentions weren't romantic.

 

 

In this chapter if she had went full against Sasuke and literally said "GTFO" everyone would have started to have respect for her; too bad she blew it.

 

 

How was that not a confession of love? she clearly poured her heart out fr him. NS shipper or not, you're going t have to except it.

 

No she didn't...at all. She basically begged him to stop being an kitten. Sasuke assumed her feelings towards him were romantic which Kakashi even corrects him on.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:08 AM

Uhhh, well, doesn't romantic relationship = dating, boyfriend etc. pretty sure that's not what Sakura was referring to this chapter..

 

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:32 AM

I doubt that is what Kakashi was hinting at, seems more like he was just pointing out that Sakura wasn't some delusional love struck idiot like Sasuke made it out to be. Why would Sakura wanna date Sasuke in his current state of mind etc?

I will keep thinking it's romantic so I don't get disappointed. 


Edited by NSForTheWinHoney, 02 October 2014 - 12:33 AM.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:42 AM

I doubt that is what Kakashi was hinting at, seems more like he was just pointing out that Sakura wasn't some delusional love struck idiot like Sasuke made it out to be. Why would Sakura wanna date Sasuke in his current state of mind etc?

I will keep thinking it's romantic so I don't get disappointed. 

...Sasuke said her feelings for him are romantic to which Kakashi corrects him on...

 

"She doesn't want to be yours" his statement couldn't be anymore clear, the entire talk after that was about family love and when Kakashi explains to him Sakura's love for him he compares it to the love he has for the family

 

Again chapter 675 Kakashi refers to Sakura's love for Sasuke in the past tense, twice. 


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:43 AM

In this chapter if she had went full against Sasuke and literally said "GTFO" everyone would have started to have respect for her; too bad she blew it.

 

 

How was that not a confession of love? she clearly poured her heart out fr him. NS shipper or not, you're going t have to except it.

At first I thought she was gonna get up and punch Sasuke in the face but instead she became a fangirl of him again



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:46 AM

So week in a nutshell:

 

We went from seeing Kakashi being #1 SS fan with 675 being claimed to be stronger than before (Go, Go, Power Rangers!), making us turn heel on him, to seeing Kakashi telling Sasuke, "Look dumbs**t, this is what she meant," and have 675 being a bit higher percentage of our favor..............

 

I need a nap...


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:48 AM

So week in a nutshell:

 

We went from seeing Kakashi being #1 SS fan with 675 being claimed to be stronger than before (Go, Go, Power Rangers!), making us turn heel on him, to seeing Kakashi telling Sasuke, "Look dumbs**t, this is what she meant," and have 675 being a bit higher percentage of our favor..............

 

I need a nap...

I need a break the Naruto fandom in general. Save for maybe a good 10% of it all, the rest have just absolutely lost their minds.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:48 AM

So week in a nutshell:

 

We went from seeing Kakashi being #1 SS fan with 675 being claimed to be stronger than before (Go, Go, Power Rangers!), making us turn heel on him, to seeing Kakashi telling Sasuke, "Look dumbs**t, this is what she meant," and have 675 being a bit higher percentage of our favor..............

 

I need a nap...

I need a vacation.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:50 AM

In this chapter if she had went full against Sasuke and literally said "GTFO" everyone would have started to have respect for her; too bad she blew it.

 

 

How was that not a confession of love? she clearly poured her heart out fr him. NS shipper or not, you're going t have to except it.

I'm not gonna accept it lol, because it is not the case, unless you read it on mangastream.

 

Sasuke on other version is even a bigger douch since he still assume she wants her this way lol. This kitten still want me even after murder. Sakura meant in those version if she had any importance in his life at all (which she had once, when he break Zaku arm, or when Kakashi tie him up to the 3 and say to him he can replace vengeance with vow to protect those he care about, Sasuke then think about Naruto and Sakura. He think about them too while he fight bee with taka. Never in a romantic way but once he did consider them) Those are the feeling Sakura tried to reach but poor girl, the emo force is strong in this one lol:P.



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:50 AM

I need a break the Naruto fandom in general. Save for maybe a good 10% of it all, the rest have just absolutely lost their minds.

Still better than Bleach.

 

I mean dear god whats even happening there anymore.


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:51 AM

In this chapter if she had went full against Sasuke and literally said "GTFO" everyone would have started to have respect for her; too bad she blew it.
 
 
How was that not a confession of love? she clearly poured her heart out fr him. NS shipper or not, you're going t have to except it.

It wasn't a confession at all. She was trying to stop him from killing Naruto and taking over the world. All this chapter did was kill off SS by showing neither Sakura or Sasuke want to be together, and set up NS by having Naruto bring up the POAL. It basically went:
- Sakura says she loves Sasuke (using the same word Kakashi used for Team 7).
- Sasuke takes it as romantic hence his response of "I have no reason to like her...".
- Kakashi corrects him saying "Sakura's not trying or wanting to make you hers! She just wants to save you!".
- Sasuke understands and thinks of his family.
- Hagoromo has a speech about family love.
It's pretty clear if you read the raw or the Viz translation. The confusion came from MS making up lines like Sakura saying "If I could have taken all your pain onto my self to comfort you I would have!" Or Kakashi saying "All she wanted just now was to be yours!" When in reality the first line was her talking about not being strong enough to fight him, and the second line was literally the exact opposite of what MS said.

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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:53 AM

I need a break the Naruto fandom in general. Save for maybe a good 10% of it all, the rest have just absolutely lost their minds.

Well, luckily, I didn't tap out.......

 

But I plan to never go into another big popular series with huge pairing war again...

 

Still better than Bleach.

 

I mean dear god whats even happening there anymore.

Fandom or series?



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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:55 AM

I doubt that is what Kakashi was hinting at, seems more like he was just pointing out that Sakura wasn't some delusional love struck idiot like Sasuke made it out to be. Why would Sakura wanna date Sasuke in his current state of mind etc?

I will keep thinking it's romantic so I don't get disappointed. 

lol same


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Posted 02 October 2014 - 12:55 AM

Well, luckily, I didn't tap out.......

 

But I plan to never go into another big popular series with huge pairing war again...

 

Fandom or series?

both....I mean did you see the latest stern ritters?

 

We basically wasted two chapters on a Stern Ritter who was basically Kevin Michael Richardson in a thong firing cupid hearts at everyone.


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