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[ciardha]

I think that line is twisted somehow, by the one who spoiled it. I agree with Paptala, to say something like this would be so out of her character. I just feel like 12 year old Sakura and 16 year old Sakura are two different persons, and that's saying something about her development. =)

But if it turns out to be true, I hope it's a flashback.

Some you all are still believing that troll summary was true? It's already proven fake by what we already know from the clips, that includes the info about Sakura. That person was likely a uber Hinata otaku who was enraged at what they knew from the clips that have been all over TV in Japan that Kishimoto was making Hinata into a yandere, and creating empathy for Sakura, so they strung together some made up bs about Sakura to try to restore their distorted image of the story- note how they completely ignored all the yandere behavior of Hinata in the movie.... Even on 2chan people swiftly started ridiculing such a lame obvious troll.

And as for the one today, read what that person actually said- don't make a leap to something that isn't actually there. The poster who made the movie summary today was telling you he/she went into the movie a Sakura basher, Hinata worhipper, saying he/she thought Sakura was insensitive to Naruto before they saw the movie, the movie immediately seriously changed this person's opinion, he/she saw how much Sakura cared deeply for Naruto, and realized what he/she had gone to the movie thinking Kishimoto would end the story with was wrong, he/she walked into the theater still thinking the manga would end sasusaku and naruhina, but walked out knowing it would be narusaku. That's what those names with the > symbol meant at the end of their post.

Sounds like this person summary of today, decided their first impression of Sakura from chapter 3 of the manga was the only picture they'd ever have of Sakura. (Completely ignoring what happens from chapter 5 onward in the manga.) The movie woke that person up to feeling more sympathy for Sakura, and laid a germ of doubt in their worshiping of Hinata (sounds like it achieved what Kishimoto wanted it to with fans like that person.)

[K9ofChaos]

Guys guys guys, were not thinking this through, the spoiler said that Sakura was being insensitive. That doesn't mean that she would say that Sasuke understood her. It could be other things, like her telling Naruto how lucky he and Sasuke are by not having any parents. Maybe this triggers Naruto off into an angry depressive state. Which is why Naruto and Sakura were in the park. Sakura came to apologize to Naruto for what she said, but then Tobi appeared.

And as for Sakura's parents, want to bet they were teasing her about Naruto being her boyfriend. If you see the picture when she was having a conversation, she was blushing. Perhaps embarrassed. It could be another thing entirely also, maybe her parents wanted her "boyfriend" to join them for supper and she refused, and thus sent Naruto into a depressive state >.> but I doubt it.

I agree with Stranglove's scenario 100%. It's a possible situation that has the likely chance of happening without contradicting any established character personalities whatsoever.



EDIT: Just read Ciardha's post and she makes a good point too.

Edited by K9ofChaos, 25 July 2012 - 02:29 AM.

[Strangelove]

Not only that, but during the movie, it would show how much they want to make each other happy. Sakura wants Naruto to enjoy his parents, and thus she is sacrificing her own happiness so that Naruto could be happy. Naruto on the other hand chooses Sakura over his own happiness [No surprise there] so that she could see her parents again. if that doesn't convince you that they are meant for each other, then nothing can, for only they can bring the best out of each other, and thus create the perfect harmonic balance, or as it was explained early in the manga Heaven and Earth.

[Don-kun]

Come on ciardha the poster said that (She felt sorry for Naruto) Sakura was been selfish to him but it all changed for the better of their friendship.

Then if we expect Naruto to not give up his crush on Sakura, then how can we expect Hinata to give up her crush on Naruto?
Oh, wait he's the main character, nervermind.



I totally agree with you, I do think of all the pairings (Narusaku, Naruhina, Sasusaku) Sakura is the only one to show non platonic feelings to Naruto, thus she is the most likely to return the feelings. I know all this, and do see the bigger picture, but the doubt is still is still there. If you makes you feel any better, I really appreciate you guys commenting on this, you've given me answers I was looking for. And my doubt has been reduce to a mere.001%.

If this makes you feel better, I only have 95% faith that NS will happen and mine is not Sakura, my reason is Naruto.
1) He can suddenly change his feeling, Highly unlikable but possible.
2) Refusing to accept Sakura thinking that is not what her heart truly wants when in reality that is what she will want, but refuse to press on the subject because she feels that she doesn't deserve his love. So my reason is not Sakura is Naruto and his selfless self.

The 95% will be:

1) On the overall story is the one that makes the most sense. Since their bond and friendship is one of the strongest in the story, both deeply care about each other and they are very selfless with each other.
2) If Naruto confesses his feeling for her, I don't see how the story will not end NS.
3) If Sakura tells him that she don't think she deserves his love, since there Hinata and she always loved him, Naruto will let her know how he feels about the other girl and how special Sakura is to him.

So there is only one way for this story not to end NS and that is with Naruto, Sakura already made the move to be with him. I don't think she will run and embrace Sasuke knowing Naruto loves her. 469 and Sakura telling him that only she knows how she feels made it even harder to believe she will do that.

Edited by NS means logic, 25 July 2012 - 03:01 AM.

[ciardha]

Not only that, but during the movie, it would show how much they want to make each other happy. Sakura wants Naruto to enjoy his parents, and thus she is sacrificing her own happiness so that Naruto could be happy. Naruto on the other hand chooses Sakura over his own happiness [No surprise there] so that she could see her parents again. if that doesn't convince you that they are meant for each other, then nothing can, for only they can bring the best out of each other, and thus create the perfect harmonic balance, or as it was explained early in the manga Heaven and Earth.

Bingo!

A point everyone seems to be missing- If you look at what we've actually seen from the clips, it's Naruto being the one that is "insensitive" in the movie. At the Hokage mountain he doesn't even notice how absolutely miserable Sakura is. She practically radiates her misery but Naruto is too caught up in the fantasy of having parents. Surprised no one else picked up on this, it just jumped out at me. Sakura keeps quiet about her misery, but her body language screams it and Naruto doesn't even notice... I guess it's kind like how he was blind to how Sakura's feelings for him had changed to love until Sakura outright told him.

I assume Naruto will realize he had blinded himself to Sakura's feelings, this time not about him directly but how she was living in misery and he hadn't noticed because he was caught up in his fantasy life with his parents. I think he'll realize it when he finds out Sakura has gone to face Menma alone so Naruto can continue his fantasy life with having living parents that love him. That's when he'll reject the fantasy and storm out of the village to save Sakura.

[merryGOflava]

Bingo!

A point everyone seems to be missing- If you look at what we've actually seen from the clips, it's Naruto being the one that is "insensitive" in the movie. At the Hokage mountain he doesn't even notice how absolutely miserable Sakura is. She practically radiates her misery but Naruto is too caught up in the fantasy of having parents. Surprised no one else picked up on this, it just jumped out at me. Sakura keeps quiet about her misery, but her body language screams it and Naruto doesn't even notice... I guess it's kind like how he was blind to how Sakura's feelings for him had changed to love until Sakura outright told him.

I assume Naruto will realize he had blinded himself to Sakura's feelings, this time not about him directly but how she was living in misery and he hadn't noticed because he was caught up in his fantasy life with his parents. I think he'll realize it when he finds out Sakura has gone to face Menma alone so Naruto can continue his fantasy life with having living parents that love him. That's when he'll reject the fantasy and storm out of the village to save Sakura.

if she does try to face menma alone......

why does she do this?? >:o......is menma attacking or something?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

if she does try to face menma alone......

why does she do this?? >:o......is menma attacking or something?

Maybe to take up the burdan? She's lately shown a desire to not have Naruto do everything which he always ends up doing. Or maybe she just didn't want Naruto get involved. She'd rather him be with her parents than bother him.

[ciardha]

if she does try to face menma alone......

why does she do this?? >:o......is menma attacking or something?

From what's been hinted, yes. There's even an article with a couple of pictures from the scene. Saiyanisland has the page scanned, but that one has been posted in this thread a few pages back.

[Nefertieh]

I guess there's still no way to confirm the "Sasuke-kun would understand me" line as fake, right?

I would immediately dismiss it if it wasn't for the fact that the reviewer from last page mentioned that he felt bad for Naruto because of Sakura's selfishness and insensitivity.

Well we don't know why that blogger called her selfish. It could be due to the fact that she wanted to go back to the real world with Naruto, who would rather stay.

I can't stop translating this....

ナルトとサクラの絆も一つのテーマに思えたけど…
ナルトも偽りの家族よりサクラを選んで飛び出して行ったし、
サクラもナルトを身体張って守ろうと頑張ってた

It looks to me that Naruto and Sakura's bond is one of the themes...
Naruto chose Sakura over his fake family and dashed out,
And Sakura tried to protect Naruto with her life.

Heeeeheeeeheeeeheeeee

[merryGOflava]

From what's been hinted, yes. There's even an article with a couple of pictures from the scene. Saiyanisland has the page scanned, but that one has been posted in this thread a few pages back.

i see...then i wonder why naruto didnt notice but sakura did?

[Transformers03]

Some you all are still believing that troll summary was true? It's already proven fake by what we already know from the clips, that includes the info about Sakura. That person was likely a uber Hinata otaku who was enraged at what they knew from the clips that have been all over TV in Japan that Kishimoto was making Hinata into a yandere, and creating empathy for Sakura, so they strung together some made up bs about Sakura to try to restore their distorted image of the story- note how they completely ignored all the yandere behavior of Hinata in the movie.... Even on 2chan people swiftly started ridiculing such a lame obvious troll.

And as for the one today, read what that person actually said- don't make a leap to something that isn't actually there. The poster who made the movie summary today was telling you he/she went into the movie a Sakura basher, Hinata worhipper, saying he/she thought Sakura was insensitive to Naruto before they saw the movie, the movie immediately seriously changed this person's opinion, he/she saw how much Sakura cared deeply for Naruto, and realized what he/she had gone to the movie thinking Kishimoto would end the story with was wrong, he/she walked into the theater still thinking the manga would end sasusaku and naruhina, but walked out knowing it would be narusaku. That's what those names with the > symbol meant at the end of their post.

Sounds like this person summary of today, decided their first impression of Sakura from chapter 3 of the manga was the only picture they'd ever have of Sakura. (Completely ignoring what happens from chapter 5 onward in the manga.) The movie woke that person up to feeling more sympathy for Sakura, and laid a germ of doubt in their worshiping of Hinata (sounds like it achieved what Kishimoto wanted it to with fans like that person.)

Interesting............so all I'm getting at with all these 'rumors' is that Naruto and Sakura's bond will play a major role in the movie. And if this person, who was a Sakura basher and believed the series was going to end Naruhina, changed his/her mind and now KNOWS that it will end Narusaku, then isn't safe to bet something happens in this movie that will give us the impression that their bond may go beyond friendship (like through implication among the actions they do, and/or possibly showing similarities between their relationship to that of Minato and Kushina's).

[Chew]

The new spoilers are interesting- it'd be awesome if the whole post were translated, but ofc, whenever you get the chance narunarunaru 8D

HNNNNNGGG

[Phantom_999]

Bingo!

A point everyone seems to be missing- If you look at what we've actually seen from the clips, it's Naruto being the one that is "insensitive" in the movie. At the Hokage mountain he doesn't even notice how absolutely miserable Sakura is. She practically radiates her misery but Naruto is too caught up in the fantasy of having parents. Surprised no one else picked up on this, it just jumped out at me. Sakura keeps quiet about her misery, but her body language screams it and Naruto doesn't even notice... I guess it's kind like how he was blind to how Sakura's feelings for him had changed to love until Sakura outright told him.

I assume Naruto will realize he had blinded himself to Sakura's feelings, this time not about him directly but how she was living in misery and he hadn't noticed because he was caught up in his fantasy life with his parents. I think he'll realize it when he finds out Sakura has gone to face Menma alone so Naruto can continue his fantasy life with having living parents that love him. That's when he'll reject the fantasy and storm out of the village to save Sakura.

I don't think Sakura is downright miserable in that illusion, only all too painfully aware THAT it is an illusion. So it's not that she's in pain she just does not want to stay in a "dream" is all. And I think putting the blame on Naruto for being insensitive is being no different from what Sakura bashers or those hardcore SS and NH fans are doing; You're ignoring the big picture with that character. How is Naruto, who is an orphan from the day he was born, supposed to feel when he's in a world where he can actually talk to his parent, touch his parents, and be loved by them? Is it wrong? Because by saying that you are actually going against WHY Sakura is leaving him even though she rather have him come back with her to reality. If It was so wrong for Naruto to want to stay with his Family Sakura should have tried harder to convince him to go back with her and say that is is an illusion, and it's not real. By allowing him to be with his family , even if they're not real, Sakura shows great selflessness and is doing Naruto a kindness as she always has, putting his happiness over her ow desires, even though she is abandoning him to Tobi's eternal control, which would be selfish in a sense of you look at it. And Naruto went STRAIGHT for her when he knew that she was in danger, and there for thinking of Sakura's safety before his happiness. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that if you're faulting Naruto's flawed but human side to his character than why bother defending Sakura's shortcomings then? seems contradictory to me if you don't mind me saying that

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 July 2012 - 02:12 PM.

[ciardha]

I don't think Sakura is downright miserable in that illusion, only all too painfully aware THAT it is an illusion, so it's not that she's in pain she just does not want to stay in a "dream" is all. And I think putting the blame on Naruto for being insensitive is being no different from what Sakura bashers or those hardcore SS and NH fans are doing; You're ignoring the big picture with that character. How is Naruto, who is an orphan from the day he was born, supposed to feel when he's in a world where he can actually talk to his parent, touch his parents, and be loved by them? Is it wrong? Because by saying that you are actually going against WHY Sakura is leaving him even though she rather have him come back with her to reality. If It was so wrong for Naruto to want to stay with his Family Sakura should have tried harder to convince him to go back with her and say that is is an illusion, and it's not real. By allowing him to be with his family , even if their not real, Sakura shows great selflessness and is doing Naruto a kindness as she always has putting his happiness over herself, even though she is abandoning him to Tobi's eternal control, which would be selfish in a sense of you look at it, And Naruto went STRAIGHT for her when he knew that she was in danger, and there for thinking of Sakura's safety before his happiness. So what I'm trying to say is that if you're faulting Naruto's flawed but human side to his character than why bother defending Sakura's shortcomings then? seems contradictory to me if you don't mind me saying that

No, I was just pointing out how some people were quick to believe a rather dubious spoiler and raging all over her, yet hadn't even noticed that in the actual clips we've seen, Sakura is radiating misery but Naruto doesn't even notice it. Just pointing out no one had even noticed Naruto actually acting "insensitive" in the Hokage mountain clip. I'm just making people aware that they are holding Sakura to an exceedingly higher standard than they are Naruto.

[Nefertieh]

I don't think Sakura is downright miserable in that illusion, only all too painfully aware THAT it is an illusion. So it's not that she's in pain she just does not want to stay in a "dream" is all. And I think putting the blame on Naruto for being insensitive is being no different from what Sakura bashers or those hardcore SS and NH fans are doing; You're ignoring the big picture with that character. How is Naruto, who is an orphan from the day he was born, supposed to feel when he's in a world where he can actually talk to his parent, touch his parents, and be loved by them? Is it wrong? Because by saying that you are actually going against WHY Sakura is leaving him even though she rather have him come back with her to reality. If It was so wrong for Naruto to want to stay with his Family Sakura should have tried harder to convince him to go back with her and say that is is an illusion, and it's not real. By allowing him to be with his family , even if they're not real, Sakura shows great selflessness and is doing Naruto a kindness as she always has, putting his happiness over her ow desires, even though she is abandoning him to Tobi's eternal control, which would be selfish in a sense of you look at it. And Naruto went STRAIGHT for her when he knew that she was in danger, and there for thinking of Sakura's safety before his happiness. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that if you're faulting Naruto's flawed but human side to his character than why bother defending Sakura's shortcomings then? seems contradictory to me if you don't mind me saying that

Well, it does seem odd, if not selfish, for Naruto to stay in a genjutsu when his friends, village and the rest of the world gets slaughtered by Tobi.

[Phantom_999]

No, I was just pointing out how some people were quick to believe a rather dubious spoiler and raging all over her, yet hadn't even noticed that in the actual clips we've seen, Sakura is radiating misery but Naruto doesn't even notice it. Just pointing out no one had even noticed Naruto actually acting "insensitive" in the Hokage mountain clip. I'm just making people aware that they are holding Sakura to an exceedingly higher standard than they are Naruto.

Okay but again stating that Naruto is being insensitive is no different to what's being done to Sakura by bashers. They are hating on her for no reason, but if you state it like that you're sounding like you accept Sakura's flaws but Not Naruto's even if you don't mean it like that. If you want to make them see your point you shouldn't defend Sakura, then judge Naruto with the opposite stick, but prove that Sakura is not a selfish B**ch as they make her out to be (though we both know that it is pointless) and you must also sympathize that Naruto has what he has always wanted and to him, Sakura was just asking a question with an obvious answer. If you're admitting Naruto was being insensitive to Sakura's feelings, you're only justifying why they are bashing Sakura in the first place; They think she was being insensitive to NARUTO'S feelings from the moment they saw her in the beginning and she always will be, which is why in their eyes NS will never happen if they're against the pairing and not Sakura herself. Also I stand by my assumption Sakura is not miserable, only aware that they are not in their reality and and she does not not want to stay in an illusion, and even if she is, I's sure it's because she knows Naruto is happy where there are and it would break her heart to CAUSE HIM misery. Oh, and when I think about it, if you're saying that Sakura is miserable cause she hates that world, then they will probably use your words against you and say " OH!!! So Sakura is not appreciating the fact that Naruto is happy there!! ANOTHER REASON why she's a B**CH!!!!!" Therefor Ultimately it's best not to debate which one of them is the victim and the other is is guilty of hurting the other, cause it only hurts you too in the long run.

Well, it does seem odd, if not selfish, for Naruto to stay in a genjutsu when his friends, village and the rest of the world gets slaughtered by Tobi.

I don't think this is occuring during the world war arc, Tobi still has his orange mask on and isn't wearing his war attire. But for the sake of argument, if that was the case, is it not JUST as selfish for Sakura to not snap Naruto out of that illusion so they can go help their friends? Sakura is putting Naruto's happiness over the world's safety then if you think about it. So I'm not saying this out of spite for either of them, (They are two of my ABSOLUTE favorite characters) only that you can't judge one with out judging the other, and if you do, you're doing it out of bias and are just being a hypocrite to your self, that is all I mean to say.

Edited by Phantom_999, 26 July 2012 - 04:47 AM.

[Codus N]

I don't think this is occuring during the world war arc, Tobi still has his orange mask on and isn't wearing his war attire. But for the sake of argument, if that was the case, is it not JUST as selfish for Sakura to not snap Naruto out of that illusion so they can go help their friends? Sakura is putting Naruto's happiness over the world's safety then if you think about it. So I'm not saying this out of spite for either of them, (They are two of my ABSOLUTE favorite characters) only that you can't judge one with out judging the other, and if you do, you're doing it out of bias and are just being a hypocrite to your self, that is all I mean to say.

Bolded: If that's not dedication or love, I don't know what is.

[Branden]

What? Sakura sacrificing her feelings to try and save Naruto? That's insane, nothing like that would ever happen in the manga! Oh wait....


Well as a plot this seems way too much like Sakura's confession 2.0

I think as a fan of the show I am going to love the chance to FINALLY see Naruto's family. However, it also makes me hate Tobi even more. Tobi is going to lose anyways, doesn't he realize the prophecy said that no matter what happens Naruto has the ultimate power in what happens? Tobi is most certainly NOT a good boy.

[Phantom_999]

Bolded: If that's not dedication or love, I don't know what is.

It is TRUE LOVE lol. I'm just saying that love is double standard if you are letting others be hurt for your happiness or for the one you love. whether or not that is a good thing is only a matter of perspective.

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 July 2012 - 03:44 PM.

[Orenji]

I'm sorry if this was already posted.. but I didn't see anything about it and that shocks me.

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