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[luffyq1]

More like scary that your most hated character is alive within him.

meh, i don't even hate obito anymore. the only guy i hate is kishi.

 

Stop saying such things. Me and Luffy just ordered our Obito goggles on Amazon for when we go to Japan.

i wouldn't pay for anything naruto related, but i always did thing those goggles were pretty cool.

[TouKen4Life3g]

meh, i don't even hate obito anymore. the only guy i hate is kishi.
 
i wouldn't pay for anything naruto related, but i always did thing those goggles were pretty cool.

Wow...

And they were. I seriously thought it was from Digimon though.

[luffyq1]

Wow...

And they were. I seriously thought it was from Digimon though.

hahahah so that's what they reminded me of!

[TouKen4Life3g]

hahahah so that's what they reminded me of!

It doesn't help that the pilot version resembles that.

[AHK]

Sweet can I get some? Honestly he wasn't so bad. Blame Kishi for it

  
Yes! Luffy handled the orders, he's the VP of our Lord Obito fanclub

meh, i don't even hate obito anymore. the only guy i hate is kishi.
 

i wouldn't pay for anything naruto related, but i always did thing those goggles were pretty cool.

You've grown so much, first you admitted your devotion to GOda, and then this! I am so proud

I wouldn't buy anything from this garbage either XD

[luffyq1]

  
Yes! Luffy handled the orders, he's the VP of our Lord Obito fanclub
You've grown so much, first you admitted your devotion to GOda, and then this! I am so proud

I wouldn't buy anything from this garbage either XD

no that was a one time thing. i was caught up in the moment is all.

[griff142]

He's joking.

Sarcasm.

[griff142]

He's joking.

Sarcasm.

Yes! Luffy handled the orders, he's the VP of our Lord Obito fanclub
You've grown so much, first you admitted your devotion to GOda, and then this! I am so proud
I wouldn't buy anything from this garbage either XD

Yay. The coolest person fan club Obito is the best. And now I can share it with people.

[rocci]

Obito is darth vader of naruto.

[WhyDoIWatch]

 

I wonder if the push to wrap Naruto's story around Obito's backstory and redemption was a desperate attempt to recapture the spark and cohesiveness of the story at the end of the Pain arc.

 

There are lots of parallels. Part of the Pain arc involved revealing a big anti-hero that fans gravitated to, with Yahiko and Nagato. There was a big awesome battle, and it came at the culmination all the Akatsuki build-up. Then there was Pain's backstory, or rather the story of the three, with the redemption of Nagato and him using his powers for a good purpose in the end.

 

All of this is the same as Obito. Even the multiple names/personas of Pain/Yahiko/Nagat is repeated with Obito/Tobi/Madara. 

 

The difference is the whole Pain arc peaked and was resolved naturally. It wasn't forced. There was nothing contradictory in the story before, and the unveiling of the final twist (their identity) didn't involve any retconning. (Yes, the reset button with Nagato wasn't great, but people accepted it as a blind gift. Nothing they needed to pay an homage to.)

 

The difference is in Naruto and the reactions around them. Naruto was angry at Pain and said so. He never really let go of that, just accepted that people change, and accepted Nagato's token of redmeption which was to return life to everyone he could.

 

However with Obito, Naruto and even Kakashi go overboard to make Obito's life be the reason they have done everything, and that his years as a vicious, merciless, self-serving criminal were just a hiccup in his "cool guy" lifestyle. With Pain, there was some avenging purpose in the original formation of Akatuski. With Obito, it was only about revenge, never once reaching out for the truth that was right in front of him all along, instead making everyone else pay for his mistaken beliefs with their lives.

 

Kakashi's move to become Hokage (something he would never do) and the chopping off of Naruto's wild hair (something that was so much a part of his look, like Harry Potter's glasses) are both an homage to Obito. Kishimoto's still trying to justify Obito's role in the story by tying him to the two future leaders.

 

But Obito is awful. Just awful. His story was just Kishimoto's weak attempt to recapture some of the creative weight of the beginning of the story. And it's going too far to make him be the most impacting person at the end, instead of alllll the other people who truly made a difference in Naruto's life, who really did care and who were protecting the Leaf and who didn't have a hand in most of the murders of the last 15 years.

 

If anything, Naruto should have had Minato's hair. Or Jiraiya's. Or even Tsunade's!! lol! But never Obito's. 

I agree with everything but this. Naruto, who was supposed to be a "hardworker/drop-out" was a Child of Prophecy which of course contradicts his speech to Neji in the Chunin Exams and his talent-less backround.

 

Jiraya, was made into a kitten in order to connect him to Naruto. He is Naruto's "god-father' but didn't bother to save him or help him form the village.

 

In regards to the actual fight, it was very convenient that Guy or anybody worthwhile wasn't there but it was still a good fight. The thing that bothered me a lot was Pain, for some reason he felt the need to prove his ideas to Naruto, who was going to die soon, (He didn't even try to do the same with Jiraya, his sensei, in fact he ignored his questions) that he went to the extent of killing Hinata in front of him despite having knowledge that Naruto will turn into the Kyuubi and defeat him.

[WhyDoIWatch]

I probably can guess the answer, but Is there any way for Kishi to redeem himself to you guys?

Edited by WhyDoIWatch, 30 April 2015 - 08:46 PM.

[AHK]

no that was a one time thing. i was caught up in the moment is all.

Mans greatest adventure start with a single step, yours is the same

[trang95]

Offtopic: Manga rankings are out: https://www.animenew...il-20-26/.87664

[TouKen4Life3g]

Offtopic: Manga rankings are out: https://www.animenew...il-20-26/.87664

TG are gone. Now I want to do Hira Kirai. I think that's how you spell it.

[trang95]

TG are gone. Now I want to do Hira Kirai. I think that's how you spell it.

It'll come back in three months XD

[Otaru]

 

Can anyone translate this ??

 

Oh yes please !

[TouKen4Life3g]

It'll come back in three months XD

I know. Lol. But it was a nice reign.

[Aizen-Sama]

 
I wonder if the push to wrap Naruto's story around Obito's backstory and redemption was a desperate attempt to recapture the spark and cohesiveness of the story at the end of the Pain arc.
 
There are lots of parallels. Part of the Pain arc involved revealing a big anti-hero that fans gravitated to, with Yahiko and Nagato. There was a big awesome battle, and it came at the culmination all the Akatsuki build-up. Then there was Pain's backstory, or rather the story of the three, with the redemption of Nagato and him using his powers for a good purpose in the end.
 
All of this is the same as Obito. Even the multiple names/personas of Pain/Yahiko/Nagat is repeated with Obito/Tobi/Madara. 
 
The difference is the whole Pain arc peaked and was resolved naturally. It wasn't forced. There was nothing contradictory in the story before, and the unveiling of the final twist (their identity) didn't involve any retconning. (Yes, the reset button with Nagato wasn't great, but people accepted it as a blind gift. Nothing they needed to pay an homage to.)
 
The difference is in Naruto and the reactions around them. Naruto was angry at Pain and said so. He never really let go of that, just accepted that people change, and accepted Nagato's token of redmeption which was to return life to everyone he could.
 
However with Obito, Naruto and even Kakashi go overboard to make Obito's life be the reason they have done everything, and that his years as a vicious, merciless, self-serving criminal were just a hiccup in his "cool guy" lifestyle. With Pain, there was some avenging purpose in the original formation of Akatuski. With Obito, it was only about revenge, never once reaching out for the truth that was right in front of him all along, instead making everyone else pay for his mistaken beliefs with their lives.
 
Kakashi's move to become Hokage (something he would never do) and the chopping off of Naruto's wild hair (something that was so much a part of his look, like Harry Potter's glasses) are both an homage to Obito. Kishimoto's still trying to justify Obito's role in the story by tying him to the two future leaders.
 
But Obito is awful. Just awful. His story was just Kishimoto's weak attempt to recapture some of the creative weight of the beginning of the story. And it's going too far to make him be the most impacting person at the end, instead of alllll the other people who truly made a difference in Naruto's life, who really did care and who were protecting the Leaf and who didn't have a hand in most of the murders of the last 15 years.
 
If anything, Naruto should have had Minato's hair. Or Jiraiya's. Or even Tsunade's!! lol! But never Obito's. 

Lol Naruto with pigtails still would've looked better than that ugly Obito hair he's got going on. The guy is nuts trying to make himself look like "the coolest guy". His screws probably came loose when Sakura married Sasuke & he was forced to get with Hinata.
And I've said this before but I hated how Tobi turned out to be Obito. All logic pointed against it but Kishimoto just did it for fanservice. He didn't even do his redemption right. Nagato's asspulled rainbow ending was still better than the leader of Akatsuki & mass murdering psycopath suddenly becoming Naruto's idol.

[ichigo500]

I just watched a video in which the guy criticized the manga in such a perfect way. He's neither an NH fan nor an NS fan...in fact, he haven't even mentioned the pairings. He just explained why the manga should have ended during the Pain arc, how Sasuke kind of ruined the manga, how Obito was such a bad written character, how Kishi tried to "fix" all his previous mistakes by turning Sasuke suddenly into the antagonist during the war arc but in the end, he just made things worse....how kishi was surely forced to continue the manga...and added some insults and how Kishi shouldn't write mangas anymore.

The best part was that Naruto and Sasuke's fight described very well the entire shippuden arc, which was like this : 

Naruto: Sasukeh, stop being evil 

Sasuke: No.

Naruto: Sasukeh, stop being evil 

Sasuke: No.

Naruto: Sasukeh, stop being evil 

Sasuke: No.

Naruto: Sasukeh, stop being evil 

Sasuke: No.

Naruto: Sasukeh, stop being evil 

Sasuke: No.

Naruto: Oh come on ! 

Sasuke: well...okay.

Edited by ichigo500, 30 April 2015 - 10:08 PM.

[Niky]

You know, normally I'm able to look past photoshop and see the original, but in this image, I just can't see Naruto. Even if I envision the original panel, it just doesn't look right. Naruto was seriously never meant for short hair, just like how this ending was never meant to happen.

 

Kishi probably made him ugly on purpose so that we could distinguish this Naruto, and the original one. There you go NH, you can have this one!

 

 

 

You don't know how happy I am that Hinata will never have the Naruto from Jiraya's novel...

Edited by Niky, 30 April 2015 - 10:37 PM.