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#3861 Luna

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 01:39 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 31 2012, 02:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I said, Team 7 to Sasuke was a bond he once cherished. Team 7 and Naruto were important. Note: I said Team 7, not Sakura individually. Noticed the whole part 2 is about Sasuke's bond with Naruto. Who has the most interaction with Sasuke out of Team 7? Naruto. Yes, Sakura is important to him, but never more above friend. He has nothing with her. Just a good friend. Nothing wrong with that, but the fact Sakura loves him hurt her because she is blocking her true self and it is naive of her to believe fantasy. She is growing up and soon, true romance will come to her. Romance will come towards the end. I can already sense it, especially the latest chapter.


I Agree with everything. By now you would think the SS would have died out by now by they still live on. I mean all hope of SS is crushed and the only person that keeping the SS afloat is Sakura. My enitre family(Family of 5) watches Naruto and they support NH which makes me the only NS fan but they even admitted that NS has the highest possiblility.


 


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:17 AM

QUOTE (Baka chan @ Aug 31 2012, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I Agree with everything. By now you would think the SS would have died out by now by they still live on. I mean all hope of SS is crushed and the only person that keeping the SS afloat is Sakura. My enitre family(Family of 5) watches Naruto and they support NH which makes me the only NS fan but they even admitted that NS has the highest possiblility.

I wish my family watched Naruto. shamefulcry0js.gif

Whatever, I'll make my own Naruto fanclub, called ME!! mad.gif

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:37 AM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Aug 31 2012, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is that they are using every scene that involves Sasuke showing respect to Sakura. What I told them is that he was only loyal to his duties as a Shinobi, so he could gain more skill and strengthen himself to kill Itachi, and team bond is secondary, as long as he remained strong and superior over his teammates. However, Sasuke change after the Chuuin Exams and started to get jealous if Naruto because he was coming stronger.

In the end, all his commitment and sacrifices he made for Team 7 went down the drain.


SasuSaku fans ... sweatdrop.gif. There is a major difference between "respect" and "love." All of the moments that could possibly be argued that Sasuke actually had romantic feelings for Sakura are just not good enough. It's not like "Sasuke was nice to her. That means he loves her." or "Sasuke told her thank you! He never says that so that obviously means Sakura's so important to him." Do they not realize how ridiculous these arguments are? Though not as bad as Sakura and Sasuke trying to kill each other being romantic dry.gif . I truly can't believe people still think SasuSaku will happen. It was never meant to happen in the first place. The whole sake of SasuSaku even existing is character development for both Naruto and Sakura. Added drama too but that's all it is.

I understand the appeal of seeing a Bad boy change into a better person because of his love for a girl. It's very touching and I have adored pairings like that. I've shipped a few of them happy.gif . But let's face it: SasuSaku is not one of them. And the sooner the fanbases accept this, the easier it will be on them when NaruSaku becomes canon.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 01 September 2012 - 03:42 AM.

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#3864 Branden

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 04:00 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Aug 31 2012, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SasuSaku fans ... sweatdrop.gif. There is a major difference between "respect" and "love." All of the moments that could possibly be argued that Sasuke actually had romantic feelings for Sakura are just not good enough. It's not like "Sasuke was nice to her. That means he loves her." or "Sasuke told her thank you! He never says that so that obviously means Sakura's so important to him." Do they not realize how ridiculous these arguments are? Though not as bad as Sakura and Sasuke trying to kill each other being romantic dry.gif . I truly can't believe people still think SasuSaku will happen. It was never meant to happen in the first place. The whole sake of SasuSaku even existing is character development for both Naruto and Sakura. Added drama too but that's all it is.

I understand the appeal of seeing a Bad boy change into a better person because of his love for a girl. It's very touching and I have adored pairings like that. I've shipped a few of them happy.gif . But let's face it: SasuSaku is not one of them. And the sooner the fanbases accept this, the easier it will be on them when NaruSaku becomes canon.


The reason Sasusaku is dead is because Kishimoto has built it to be an unhealthy and damaging relationship, not because it's unlikely for badboy to turn good.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:29 AM

Not just that, but Karin may have earned a spot in Sasuke's heart. We will have to wait until Sasuke has his little reunion with his parents from the Edo Tensei. Im hopping Mikoto will to tell him that she's friends with Naruto's mother and Kushina was from the Uzumaki Clan.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:11 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Sep 1 2012, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The reason Sasusaku is dead is because Kishimoto has built it to be an unhealthy and damaging relationship, not because it's unlikely for badboy to turn good.


But that's part of the appeal for the Western fanbase, especially the girls. Seeing the girl change the heart of a damaged guy with a messed up past and change him for the better ... that's why it's so popular. I finally figured it out after all these years. Completely unrealistic and shallow but that's how it is. And true Branden, SasuSaku is dead and is continually viewed as abusive and unhealthy.


But a SasuSaku fan argued to me that it isn't an abusive relationship just because Sasuke tried to kill her two times. Apparently the excuse is that Sasuke was not in his right mind so it doesn't count. And that I should just "get over it." wot.gif

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:33 AM

I swear debates over Naruto will spark WW3. Some president of some country will start arguing with a president of another country at an UN conference and pretty soon all the countries will be devided into Sakura or Hinata supporters XD

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 07:07 AM

just debated with a naruhina fan....and made a trollish remark.......omg that felt good.

but i feel bad XD it was their fault for bringing up fillers though.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 07:34 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 1 2012, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just debated with a naruhina fan....and made a trollish remark.......omg that felt good.

but i feel bad XD it was their fault for bringing up fillers though.


It sucks for them when they do that >:D


I was just talking to my friends in a facebook chat about Road To Ninja and Sakura's importance in it, and then one of my friends pop up saying "Is she less of a dumbass?"
Of course, my other friends know how I get when someone bashes Sakura, so they just start lurking XD
I replied with:
"*Glare*
ARE
YOU
DISSING
MY
FAVOURITE
CHARACTER?!"

"You like Sakura?! O.O"

Then we started debating and she started pulling up all this filler stuff and things that didn't even happen XP
What is it with NaruHina fans and using imaginary moments as evidence? XD


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 07:48 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 1 2012, 12:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just debated with a naruhina fan....and made a trollish remark.......omg that felt good.

but i feel bad XD it was their fault for bringing up fillers though.

I find it hilarious that they completely disregard the parallels and call them parallulz.

Clever, but it is also proof of acceptance. Just by flaming it they are acknowledging that it has enough significance that it has there attention, therefore meaning that they realize the parallels too, thus proving my point that they are in denial whether they realize it or not. I honestly think that these parallels are Kishi's greatest hint at NS. Develoupment is one thing, hints are another.

In my eyes hints are subtle things or events that make you think about a possible outcome for the future. Sakura being saved by Naruto in the same way Kushina was saved by Minato was a hint to me. Sakura willing to give everything to relieve Naruto of his burden was development.

As for RTN, it took the Hint and made it about 10x more obvious (if you want to know why go to the movie thread and ask).

So really, at this point after such blatant hints towards NaruSaku the real question is how will it become cannon in a way that satisfies pairing fans?



PS: inb4 your too confident. I am confident because it's the only thing that makes sense, I'm seriously tired of people saying "oh well its posible". Yes and you know what else is posible? KakuSaku and NaruTsu. So, quit saying that other pairings are possible without solid development and factually supported evidence.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 09:48 AM

Let's not talk about the other fandoms like this. It doesn't reflect well on our ship, and its against the rules.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:28 AM

Okay~

As an apology, I've humiliated Sasuke >:D
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Sep 1 2012, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
just debated with a naruhina fan....and made a trollish remark.......omg that felt good.

but i feel bad XD it was their fault for bringing up fillers though.

why do they keep bringing the damn fillers facepalm.png oh right because naruto and hinata barely interact happy.gif besides even when it comes to fillers NS has more moments not to forget the one he admitted in that he still loves sakura,

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 12:10 PM

they're just going round and round to argue with us and living their last moments after, which they know about, the real deal when they see it in their own eyes hits them bad and we should expect more bashing for NS when the manga ends just to fall their anger on us and then the storm ends.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Aug 31 2012, 11:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
SasuSaku fans ... sweatdrop.gif. There is a major difference between "respect" and "love." All of the moments that could possibly be argued that Sasuke actually had romantic feelings for Sakura are just not good enough. It's not like "Sasuke was nice to her. That means he loves her." or "Sasuke told her thank you! He never says that so that obviously means Sakura's so important to him." Do they not realize how ridiculous these arguments are? Though not as bad as Sakura and Sasuke trying to kill each other being romantic dry.gif . I truly can't believe people still think SasuSaku will happen. It was never meant to happen in the first place. The whole sake of SasuSaku even existing is character development for both Naruto and Sakura. Added drama too but that's all it is.

I understand the appeal of seeing a Bad boy change into a better person because of his love for a girl. It's very touching and I have adored pairings like that. I've shipped a few of them happy.gif . But let's face it: SasuSaku is not one of them. And the sooner the fanbases accept this, the easier it will be on them when NaruSaku becomes canon.


So if Sasuke showing respect to Sakura on a few occasions means it can turn to love... Then does that mean many occasions Sakura has shown respect, admiration, and care to Naruto signify that Sakura can definitely come to fully love Naruto without a doubt?

(This isn't addressed to you RomanceGirl, just the SS fans who use this as an argument. If this means that SS can happen, then they must acknowledge that this argument proves that NS is more likely. Since Naruto and Hinata do mutually (well Hinata cares more to point of love, lol) care and respect each other as well, then this argument means that NH is second most likely. Only second most likely because you don't see as many scenes of Naruto caring for Hinata, even though he definitely does. These conclusions are based only on that sole argument.)

Edited by Traci, 01 September 2012 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:32 PM

QUOTE (Traci @ Sep 1 2012, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So if Sasuke showing respect to Sakura on a few occasions means it can turn to love... Then does that mean many occasions Sakura has shown respect, admiration, and care to Naruto signify that Sakura can definitely come to fully love Naruto without a doubt?

(This isn't addressed to you RomanceGirl, just the SS fans who use this as an argument. If this means that SS can happen, then they must acknowledge that this argument proves that NS is more likely. Since Naruto and Hinata do mutually (well Hinata cares more to point of love, lol) care and respect each other as well, then this argument means that NH is second most likely. Only second most likely because you don't see as many scenes of Naruto caring for Hinata, even though he definitely does. These conclusions are based only on that sole argument.)


Sasuke's "respect" moments were far between though. Most of the time Sasuke ignored her or insulted her in some way a few times. Admittingly, it could have developed into more in Part 1. The possibility was there. But now? Sasuke does not care about her at the moment and when he finally does, he'll be too damaged and scarred over the years for that to happen. Sasuke's personality does not go with SasuSaku becoming canon.

Which is why NaruHina is more likely than SasuSaku. At least there actual friends.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:52 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Sep 2 2012, 03:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sasuke's "respect" moments were far between though. Most of the time Sasuke ignored her or insulted her in some way a few times. Admittingly, it could have developed into more in Part 1. The possibility was there. But now? Sasuke does not care about her at the moment and when he finally does, he'll be too damaged and scarred over the years for that to happen. Sasuke's personality does not go with SasuSaku becoming canon.

Which is why NaruHina is more likely than SasuSaku. At least there actual friends.

exactly a_thumbs.gif sasusaku has no chance whether or not sakura's feelings will change( which i believe will change) yes NH does have a chance not like NS off curse but there's still the chance that kishi could make naruto fall for her headscratch.gif

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 01:31 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 1 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
exactly a_thumbs.gif sasusaku has no chance whether or not sakura's feelings will change( which i believe will change) yes NH does have a chance not like NS off curse but there's still the chance that kishi could make naruto fall for her headscratch.gif


Yeah, there is that chance. But with the recent Chapter and movie, NaruHina's chances are even slimer than before.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 02:19 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Sep 2 2012, 07:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, there is that chance. But with the recent Chapter and movie, NaruHina's chances are even slimer than before.

yes i agree. and yes if NH should happen then kisi should put hinata in team 7. but i think that there were chances in the 1rt part but now i dont think so. because sakura is falling in love with naruto slowly.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:08 AM

i don't see how NH had a chance cause NH didn't even had a twinkle of a chance mellow.gif




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