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[Fenris]

sasuke?? >:o......

you dont mean AU naruto (the one with black hair) do you?

What? o_o
That was naruto?
There's an AU naruto?

[KeikoxYusuke]

Man, this whole thing has got me so excited, I saw the Road to Guy episode after work today, and man, that made my day! I'm glad that Kishi is really spelling it out as far the pairings go! also I love Nejihina ! not sure if it's a canon pairing or now, but as of now, it's my head canon!

And Narusaku...the best pairing of them all!!

[Strangelove]

Does the previous movie spoiler confirm our victory in the shipping wars?

I gotta say maybe xD

But we have yet to get something out of the manga :O

Edited by Strangelove, 24 July 2012 - 10:28 PM.

[kirabook]

I just want to say, just because it goes our way does not make the movie canon or NS for that matter. XD Don't get ahead of yourselves.

But the general hint and fanservice will be great.

[Fenris]

I just want to say, just because it goes our way does not make the movie canon or NS for that matter. XD Don't get ahead of yourselves.

But the general hint and fanservice will be great.

Actually, it is produced by Kishi, therefor it gives us more of a general push in the right direction than just a episode 235 material would.

[Paptala]

I don't know why would she say that but I will not worry about it anymore, we need to wait to find out in what context it came out if she did say that. I still stand on the fact that it isn't true, every spoiler we got so far as been confirmed, and this one for some odd reason has not been confirmed by someone else. The other fact we have is the blogger, that was too big statement for him not to mention that Sakura was still being a shallow fangirl for Sasuke, he didn't instead he said that she was being selfish and harsh to Naruto.

So it might be her saying that he had parent and Naruto didn't I don't know but the statement doesn't make sense.

All very true -- none of this is confirmed yet, so the best thing to do is wait and see if she actually said it, and if she did, then what context it was said in and how it came about. I'd like to have faith that Kishi wouldn't regress his character, one that he seems to be quite fond of on top of that.

Man, this whole thing has got me so excited, I saw the Road to Guy episode after work today, and man, that made my day! I'm glad that Kishi is really spelling it out as far the pairings go! also I love Nejihina ! not sure if it's a canon pairing or now, but as of now, it's my head canon!

Me too >_< NejiHina is definitely my head canon, as is LeeTen. <3

And Narusaku...the best pairing of them all!!

Amen to that

[LadyGT]

It's funny how this movie is not canon anymore xD Oh well I just hope we will get some Minakushi/Narusaku moments!

And guys don't worry too much about that line at the beginning, I think it's only for the movie purpose, parental love

[sushi.]

I think that line is twisted somehow, by the one who spoiled it. I agree with Paptala, to say something like this would be so out of her character. I just feel like 12 year old Sakura and 16 year old Sakura are two different persons, and that's saying something about her development. =)

But if it turns out to be true, I hope it's a flashback.

[Strangelove]

Guys guys guys, were not thinking this through, the spoiler said that Sakura was being insensitive. That doesn't mean that she would say that Sasuke understood her. It could be other things, like her telling Naruto how lucky he and Sasuke are by not having any parents. Maybe this triggers Naruto off into an angry depressive state. Which is why Naruto and Sakura were in the park. Sakura came to apologize to Naruto for what she said, but then Tobi appeared.

And as for Sakura's parents, want to bet they were teasing her about Naruto being her boyfriend. If you see the picture when she was having a conversation, she was blushing. Perhaps embarrassed. It could be another thing entirely also, maybe her parents wanted her "boyfriend" to join them for supper and she refused, and thus sent Naruto into a depressive state >.> but I doubt it.

Edited by Strangelove, 24 July 2012 - 11:02 PM.

[Don-kun]

Sorry I didn't posted this before.

http://hanayamasumom...entry-1284.html

That is the link for the spoiler I posted earlier Today.

Now this is the 2nd time we hear rumors of NS in two blogs. If the spoilers about the movie are accurate, this is how I will see things.

1) Kishi made Sakura understand and support Naruto more that anybody, I could say Kakashi but he already knows Naruto had the potential plus the Kyuubi powers. Iruka is another one but Sakura has been used for that role more.

2) Complete 180 Kishi made Sakura do a complete turn around with Naruto to the point where is determination help her to try harder to help others, not for Naruto to notice her.

3) He made her acknowledge how far Naruto will go for her and the dept of his feeling for her.

4) He use Sasuke to show the worse of Sakura.

5) He shows that NH focus on her love for Naruto but not the complete Naruto (Kyuubi, his love for another, his dream, desire to save Sasuke, etc.)

6) Anime has never focused on Naruto>>>>Hinata or Sasuke>>>>Sakura in a real and convincing way.

7) Rock lee show does not help NH, it focuses more on NejiHina and LeeTen.

8) 1s time Kishi got completely involved in making a movie with all the things he had in mind but could find add to the story or could not for some because circumstances and what we got, Sakura's parents, Naruto parents and NS bond.

9) Also Kishi stated that Sakura confesion to Naruto was real.

10) There was some Sakura Naruto in the Manga.




How can people still doubt NS.

Edited by NS means logic, 24 July 2012 - 11:00 PM.

[merryGOflava]

It's funny how this movie is not canon anymore xD Oh well I just hope we will get some Minakushi/Narusaku moments!

And guys don't worry too much about that line at the beginning, I think it's only for the movie purpose, parental love

agreed its just to prove a point in the movie :3

im fine with it now :3

[Transformers03]

Sorry I didn't posted this before.

http://hanayamasumom...entry-1284.html

That is the link for the spoiler I posted earlier Today.

Now this is the 2nd time we hear rumors of NS in two blogs. If the spoilers about the movie are accurate, this is how I will see things.

1) Kishi made Sakura understand and support Naruto more that anybody, I could say Kakashi but he already knows Naruto had the potential plus the Kyuubi powers. Iruka is another one but Sakura has been used for that role more.

2) Complete 180 Kishi made Sakura do a complete turn around with Naruto to the point where is determination help her to try harder to help others, not for Naruto to notice her.

3) He made her acknowledge how far Naruto will go for her and the dept of his feeling for her.

4) He use Sasuke to show the worse of Sakura.

5) He shows that NH focus on her love for Naruto but not the complete Naruto (Kyuubi, his love for another, his dream, desire to save Sasuke, etc.)

6) Anime has never focused on Naruto>>>>Hinata or Sasuke>>>>Sakura in a real and convincing way.

7) Rock lee show does not help NH, it focuses more on NejiHina and LeeTen.

8) 1s time Kishi got completely involved in making a movie with all the things he had in mind but could find add to the story or could not for some because circumstances and what we got, Sakura's parents, Naruto parents and NS bond.

9) Also Kishi stated that Sakura confesion to Naruto was real.

10) There was some Sakura Naruto in the Manga.




How can people still doubt NS.

For me it's mostly the recent war stuff that happen with Naruto and Hinata. The whole 'looking in your eyes' conversation and Hinata's proclamation in 573 is the reason why I doubt Narusaku will happen. Though in hindsight all of that can simply be Hinata's character resolution, something that seems very common among some of the other characters. But what really bothered me about it was the emphasis on both those parts.

Really, it shouldn't be anything to worry about, but it's still a doubt I have. It has become a very small doubt since I've started looking these things up, and this movie certainly help, but it's still there. It wasn't for that though, I would have agreed with you 100% that there shouldn't be any doubts that Narusaku will happen. Right now I can only give you 99%.

[LadyGT]

^ Well I don't see where's the problem with those scenes, Naruto was just trying to help a friend, he was encouraging her, I didn't see any romantic lines in that scene to be honest, and the other part were she says that she will hold his hand is just another resolution to her character.

You also have to think that Kishimoto is trying his bets to keep all the pairing fandoms till the end, there are people that only read this manga for pairing fanservice.
How would you handle a situation like that? if it was for me I would have done the same thing (with some trolling aswell).

Edited by LadyGT, 24 July 2012 - 11:31 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

^ Well I don't see where's the problem with those scenes, Naruto was just trying to help a friend, he was encouraging her, I didn't see any romantic lines in that scene to be honest, and the other part were she says that she will hold his hand is just another resolution to her character.

You also have to think that Kishimoto is trying his bets to keep all the pairing fandoms till the end, there are people that only read this manga for pairing fanservice.
How would you handle a situation like that? if it was for me I would have done the same thing (with some trolling aswell).

Hinata got her resolution, there's nothing for Naruto to say something for Hinata.
Sakura had doubts about her love for sasuke that lover-nin made her to think twice about her feelings.
After it appears sakura saying that she will help naruto no matter what, that no "matter what u say this time we gonna be together...".

[Transformers03]

^ Well I don't see where's the problem with those scenes, Naruto was just trying to help a friend, he was encouraging her, I didn't see any romantic lines in that scene to be honest, and the other part were she says that she will hold his hand is just another resolution to her character.

You also have to think that Kishimoto is trying his bets to keep all the pairing fandoms till the end, there are people that only read this manga for pairing fanservice.
How would you handle a situation like that? if it was for me I would have done the same thing (with some trolling aswell).

I actually don't think he cares for pairings, but then again, like you said, there are people who only read the manga for the pairing thing, so maybe he was kinda force to care (force by his fans, and/or possibly his editors).

The problem I have with those scene isn't the fact that it happen, it was emphasis on it. Naruto saved Sakura in that same chapter, yet he (the author) focused more on Hinata. Sakura was in that same chapter when Hinata made her proclamation, but yet Hinata gotten more panels in that chapter, even though Sakura is the main heroin and what she said was A LOT more important. I know in general that Sakura has been in more panels than Hinata (by a lot actually), and like I said it is really a small doubt. But it's still a lot more recent then any Narusaku moments, and we still haven't seen Naruto and Sakura actually talk to each other since the summit arc. Once I see them talking, and IF Kishi decides to shows any romantic implication in that conversation (either through their dialogue or thoughts), THEN I could say I have no doubts.

[Gravenimage]

For me it's mostly the recent war stuff that happen with Naruto and Hinata. The whole 'looking in your eyes' conversation and Hinata's proclamation in 573 is the reason why I doubt Narusaku will happen. Though in hindsight all of that can simply be Hinata's character resolution, something that seems very common among some of the other characters. But what really bothered me about it was the emphasis on both those parts.

Really, it shouldn't be anything to worry about, but it's still a doubt I have. It has become a very small doubt since I've started looking these things up, and this movie certainly help, but it's still there. It wasn't for that though, I would have agreed with you 100% that there shouldn't be any doubts that Narusaku will happen. Right now I can only give you 99%.

You're not getting the big picture here, Naruto doesn't love Hinata. How can there be NH if Naruto will always love Sakura???

[merryGOflava]

You're not getting the big picture here, Naruto doesn't love Hinata. How can there be NH if Naruto will always love Sakura???

yea.......i think we should be worrying if ANY pairing happens more than naruhina happening.

i mean if naruto only wants sakura.....then hes not the problem....

its sakura who needs to make a switch for any pairing to be possible.

[Paptala]

It's funny how this movie is not canon anymore xD Oh well I just hope we will get some Minakushi/Narusaku moments!

lol my sentiments exactly

And guys don't worry too much about that line at the beginning, I think it's only for the movie purpose, parental love

True.

Guys guys guys, were not thinking this through, the spoiler said that Sakura was being insensitive. That doesn't mean that she would say that Sasuke understood her. It could be other things, like her telling Naruto how lucky he and Sasuke are by not having any parents. Maybe this triggers Naruto off into an angry depressive state. Which is why Naruto and Sakura were in the park. Sakura came to apologize to Naruto for what she said, but then Tobi appeared.

This is possible. I think we're going to have to just wait and see how that particular scene plays out, and hope that this blogger is not conveying the scene properly to us -- if he or she is conveying it properly, well then we'll just be content with the knowledge that they fix the issue between them by the end of the movie and that their bond apparently gets a lot of focus in this movie

And as for Sakura's parents, want to bet they were teasing her about Naruto being her boyfriend. If you see the picture when she was having a conversation, she was blushing. Perhaps embarrassed. It could be another thing entirely also, maybe her parents wanted her "boyfriend" to join them for supper and she refused, and thus sent Naruto into a depressive state >.> but I doubt it.

This might be wishful thinking, but parental teasing of her close relationship with Naruto would be very pleasing to see

Now this is the 2nd time we hear rumors of NS in two blogs. If the spoilers about the movie are accurate, this is how I will see things.

1) Kishi made Sakura understand and support Naruto more that anybody, I could say Kakashi but he already knows Naruto had the potential plus the Kyuubi powers. Iruka is another one but Sakura has been used for that role more.

I agree -- both Iruka and Sakura are the ones that have actually been there the most for him throughout the manga, and I think the fact that Kishi chose to play up those two particular bonds in this movie, not even focusing on Naruto's bond with Sasuke, says a lot about how Kishimoto views them -- these are the two bonds that convince him to give up fantasy for reality and give him comfort in the aftermath.

5) He shows that NH focus on her love for Naruto but not the complete Naruto (Kyuubi, his love for another, his dream, desire to save Sasuke, etc.)

Exactly -- Hinata's view of Naruto is limited to what she has observed from a distance and the few precious times she has been interacting with him. She has no understanding of his bond with Sasuke or his desire to save him, as evidenced by her complete silence in the vote to kill Sasuke and then not saying anything to Naruto about that decision afterwards despite it having such a huge effect on him emotionally (whereas Sakura was there the day Naruto found out Sasuke left, she was there for the immediate aftermath of VOTE, she promised him that they would save Sasuke and get stronger together multiple times, cried together over Sasuke slipping through their fingers a second time, was there during the second reunion, and traveled all the way out to the summit without regard for her own feelings in order to ease Naruto's burdens). Hinata has no idea of his struggles and feelings regarding Jinchuuriki -- Sakura was there during the rescue Gaara mission, and there when he wen KN4 and attacked her and she had to deal with the aftermath. Hinata has never been thought about or even acknowledged Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage -- not once -- where Sakura was willing to quit the chuunin exams in order to preserve it.

6) Anime has never focused on Naruto>>>>Hinata or Sasuke>>>>Sakura in a real and convincing way.

7) Rock lee show does not help NH, it focuses more on NejiHina and LeeTen.

Well, the animation team's interpretation matching our own in regards to pairing preferences doesn't make it more canon, but it certainly makes us feel more secure (at least in my case it does ).

8) 1s time Kishi got completely involved in making a movie with all the things he had in mind but could find add to the story or could not for some because circumstances and what we got, Sakura's parents, Naruto parents and NS bond.

Exactly -- this movie seems like its Kishi's baby (aside from the manga). He obviously put a lot of effort into it, making sure that it showed what he wanted it to show.

10) There was some Sakura Naruto in the Manga.

I'd say there's a bit more than 'some' Sakura -> Naruto in the manga

How can people still doubt NS.

Fillers, and people will see what they want to see

For me it's mostly the recent war stuff that happen with Naruto and Hinata. The whole 'looking in your eyes' conversation and Hinata's proclamation in 573 is the reason why I doubt Narusaku will happen. Though in hindsight all of that can simply be Hinata's character resolution, something that seems very common among some of the other characters. But what really bothered me about it was the emphasis on both those parts.

Really, it shouldn't be anything to worry about, but it's still a doubt I have. It has become a very small doubt since I've started looking these things up, and this movie certainly help, but it's still there. It wasn't for that though, I would have agreed with you 100% that there shouldn't be any doubts that Narusaku will happen. Right now I can only give you 99%.

I wouldn't worry -- just remember that Naruto has yet to show ANY (and I do mean ANY) romantic or even non-platonic feelings (such as a blush to show attraction) towards Hinata. He regards the same as he did in the chuunin exams. Kishimoto has shown us how Naruto behaves around someone he is in love with, and Naruto does not act that way around Hinata. So unless Naruto starts showing some reciprocation, NH is still just Hinata character development.

I actually don't think he cares for pairings, but then again, like you said, there are people who only read the manga for the pairing thing, so maybe he was kinda force to care (force by his fans, and/or possibly his editors).

The problem I have with those scene isn't the fact that it happen, it was emphasis on it. Naruto saved Sakura in that same chapter, yet he (the author) focused more on Hinata. Sakura was in that same chapter when Hinata made her proclamation, but yet Hinata gotten more panels in that chapter, even though Sakura is the main heroin and what she said was A LOT more important. I know in general that Sakura has been in more panels than Hinata (by a lot actually), and like I said it is really a small doubt. But it's still a lot more recent then any Narusaku moments, and we still haven't seen Naruto and Sakura actually talk to each other since the summit arc. Once I see them talking, and IF Kishi decides to shows any romantic implication in that conversation (either through their dialogue or thoughts), THEN I could say I have no doubts.

Kishimoto is tying up all the loose ends with Hinata's feelings for Naruto and whatever lingering feelings Sakura has for Sasuke before moving on with Naruto and Sakura's relationship. Naruto's romantic feelings for Sakura are completely developed -- there is nothing left to show with that except him confessing how he feels directly to her. This has been explicitly shelved until after Naruto fulfills the POAL (i.e. after the Sasuke fight), so I wouldn't expect much from his end until then. Sakura's feelings have all the build up and foundation she needs to get over Sasuke completely, and realize exactly what she feels for Naruto.

If you have doubts, then just remember that it is indisputable canon fact that of the three pairings, Sakura is the ONLY one to have shown non-platonic feelings for Naruto - she's shown definite attraction towards him, multiple characters have commented on the strength of her feelings for Naruto, she has prioritized him over her original love interest -- Naruto has never done any of that for Hinata, and neither has Sasuke for Sakura.

[kirabook]

Actually, it is produced by Kishi, therefor it gives us more of a general push in the right direction than just a episode 235 material would.

That's why I'd rather call it a hint than straight up canon or anything like that.

I feel it is a big nudge from Kishi, he is kinda giving the other pairings what they wished for, but to the extreme. At the same time, I think he makes Naruto and Sakura's bond, whether it be romantic or 'friendly' more obvious.

At the same time, I don't want to assume it is canon, or at least manga canon, since it hasn't happened in the manga and we still can't fit it correctly into the manga plotline.

Edit: It's also major family fanservice for Naruto at last. How I have longed for it.

Edited by kirabook, 25 July 2012 - 12:51 AM.

[Transformers03]

You're not getting the big picture here, Naruto doesn't love Hinata. How can there be NH if Naruto will always love Sakura???

Then if we expect Naruto to not give up his crush on Sakura, then how can we expect Hinata to give up her crush on Naruto?
Oh, wait he's the main character, nervermind.

I wouldn't worry -- just remember that Naruto has yet to show ANY (and I do mean ANY) romantic or even non-platonic feelings (such as a blush to show attraction) towards Hinata. He regards the same as he did in the chuunin exams. Kishimoto has shown us how Naruto behaves around someone he is in love with, and Naruto does not act that way around Hinata. So unless Naruto starts showing some reciprocation, NH is still just Hinata character development.

Kishimoto is tying up all the loose ends with Hinata's feelings for Naruto and whatever lingering feelings Sakura has for Sasuke before moving on with Naruto and Sakura's relationship. Naruto's romantic feelings for Sakura are completely developed -- there is nothing left to show with that except him confessing how he feels directly to her. This has been explicitly shelved until after Naruto fulfills the POAL (i.e. after the Sasuke fight), so I wouldn't expect much from his end until then. Sakura's feelings have all the build up and foundation she needs to get over Sasuke completely, and realize exactly what she feels for Naruto.

If you have doubts, then just remember that it is indisputable canon fact that of the three pairings, Sakura is the ONLY one to have shown non-platonic feelings for Naruto - she's shown definite attraction towards him, multiple characters have commented on the strength of her feelings for Naruto, she has prioritized him over her original love interest -- Naruto has never done any of that for Hinata, and neither has Sasuke for Sakura.

I totally agree with you, I do think of all the pairings (Narusaku, Naruhina, Sasusaku) Sakura is the only one to show non platonic feelings to Naruto, thus she is the most likely to return the feelings. I know all this, and do see the bigger picture, but the doubt is still is still there. If you makes you feel any better, I really appreciate you guys commenting on this, you've given me answers I was looking for. And my doubt has been reduce to a mere.001%.