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[Branden]

I didn't think it was posible, but Kishi put a parallel in the same chapter he revealed his super villain.

Kishi, we get it. Sarutobi's team and Minato's team is parallel to team 7.

Team Namikaze
Obito = Naruto
Kakashi = Sasuke
Rin = Sakura

Team Sarutobi
Jiraiya = Naruto
Orochimaru = Sasuke
Tsunade = Sakura

(partly irrelevant to either teams but still parallel)
Minato = Naruto
Kushina = Sakura


Kishimoto is now the King of flashbacks and Emperor of Parallels, but he's still "just another biased NS fan."

[redragon88]

So,

Let's be honest, who here has their NaruSaku chance increased?

I say I because the recent chapter clearly shows that Obito is the guy who went through a Naruto's route, only to end short. Now, he believes illusion can achieve freedom, a shortcut route but a wrong reason. Naruto is going to correct this. He must surpass the old's regrets.

Thoughts.

Yes.

The direction of the Obito flashback really took me by surprise. At the beginning I actually thought that it would center more on his rivalry to surpass Kakashi than it would on his love for Rin. I even thought that the later would only get one quick panel of reference, but no. Even his desire to surpass Kakashi in the flashback seems to stem from his wish to get Rin to look at him in a better light more so than to get Kakashi himself to acknowledge him.

In a way it seems the flashback was centered on how Obito wanted to work hard in order to become a man worthy of Rin. It was really sad to watch how Obito misunderstood Rin's whisper to meet her later as her wanting to spend some time with him alone, only for it to turn out to be a preparation for a surprise party for Kakashi. He even got the confidence to finally confess to her but wasn't able to in the end because of the misunderstanding.

It would be sad for Naruto to end up heartbroken just like that by the end. People who don't want Naruto to succeed at getting together with Sakura only do so because for some strange reason have become attached to Sakura's and/or Hinata's desires instead of back up Naruto. The story is meant for you to root for Naruto's success at all he does even if it seems hopeless most of the time.

It goes against the story to not want Naruto to get together with Sakura. But in the end people want what they want, so even if it's obvious story wise that you should be rooting for Naruto some will simply refuse to see it because for personal reason they dislike it.

Lets face it, Sakura and Hinata want Sasuke and Naruto, respectively, to like them back based solely on the fact that they love the boys. Naruto, at the very least, works very hard in order to ensure that Sakura is as happy as she can be. Meanwhile, the girls just keep standing there simply loving and not doing much. It's obvious that Naruto's love comes off as the best and strongest of all.

Kishimoto said it himself recently "Please keep supporting our main character Naruto", so I sure as heck won't go against what Kishi hopes that audience does. And for any who say that love doesn't count in the support we give Naruto, then they just have to look at this last chapter and be proven once again how wrong they were.

[PhenixElite]

Yes.

The direction of the Obito flashback really took me by surprise. At the beginning I actually thought that it would center more on his rivalry to surpass Kakashi than it would on his love for Rin. I even thought that the later would only get one quick panel of reference, but no. Even his desire to surpass Kakashi in the flashback seems to stem from his wish to get Rin to look at him in a better light more so than to get Kakashi himself to acknowledge him.

In a way it seems the flashback was centered on how Obito wanted to work hard in order to become a man worthy of Rin. It was really sad to watch how Obito misunderstood Rin's whisper to meet her later as her wanting to spend some time with him alone, only for it to turn out to be a preparation for a surprise party for Kakashi. He even got the confidence to finally confess to her but wasn't able to in the end because of the misunderstanding.

It would be sad for Naruto to end up heartbroken just like that by the end. People who don't want Naruto to succeed at getting together with Sakura only do so because for some strange reason have become attached to Sakura's and/or Hinata's desires instead of back up Naruto. The story is meant for you to root for Naruto's success at all he does even if it seems hopeless most of the time.

It goes against the story to not want Naruto to get together with Sakura. But in the end people want what they want, so even if it's obvious story wise that you should be rooting for Naruto some will simply refuse to see it because for personal reason they dislike it.

Lets face it, Sakura and Hinata want Sasuke and Naruto, respectively, to like them back based solely on the fact that they love the boys. Naruto, at the very least, works very hard in order to ensure that Sakura is as happy as she can be. Meanwhile, the girls just keep standing there simply loving and not doing much. It's obvious that Naruto's love comes off as the best and strongest of all.

Kishimoto said it himself recently "Please keep supporting our main character Naruto", so I sure as heck won't go against what Kishi hopes that audience does. And for any who say that love doesn't count in the support we give Naruto, then they just have to look at this last chapter and be proven once again how wrong they were.

Years ago when i saw the first episodes of naruto it was clear to me that the main character would get together with the girl he loves. There is no need of making wild theories about everything. Its just like every other simple love story, that the hero gets what he wanzs and happy end

[Gravenimage]

I can't believe they are paralleling it to SS.... I mean the only thing Sasuke and Obito have in common is the fact that they are uchihas.

This is really denying the facts, how does it even work by the way? If Sasuke is Obito than Sakura doesn't feel a crap about Sasuke and is in love with someone else? Is that really how Sasusaku works nowdays?
What the hell people are really desperate....

You know desperation always kicks in for these kind of things. With RTN movie what other proofs do fandoms from NH and SS have??? Those opposite pairings are fading as the manga progresses because slowly it has been leading towards NS more. I have never worried of what will be the canon pairing ending and I'm not going to start now.

[Dalton.T.R]

You know desperation always kicks in for these kind of things. With RTN movie what other proofs do fandoms from NH and SS have??? Those opposite pairings are fading as the manga progresses because slowly it has been leading towards NS more. I have never worried of what will be the canon pairing ending and I'm not going to start now.

I do dare say... Safe to say NaruSaku my friends.

[Transformers03]

I do dare say... Safe to say NaruSaku my friends.

It was ALWAYS safe to say Narusaku, you just needed to ignore those people on the internet.
Then again, Kishi could still pull the rug from under us, and this has all been an elaborate red herring...........doubt it, but it still could happen.

[Dalton.T.R]

It was ALWAYS safe to say Narusaku, you just needed to ignore those people on the internet.
Then again, Kishi could still pull the rug from under us, and this has all been an elaborate red herring...........doubt it, but it still could happen.

Very highly doubt this happens, in fact, I think it's next to impossible. The manga is almost over and every single sign that has directions on it points to NaruSaku. Kishi also said he didn't want to focus on romance, and for NaruHina or SasuSaku to happen, he'd have to spend another 50+ chapters of Naruto falling in love with Hinata and Sasuke actually giving a damn about Sakura. Kishi would have to tell the story of why Sasuke started caring, and Naruto fell in love with Hinata. Thus this chapter OBVIOUSLY hinted towards NaruSaku.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Very highly doubt this happens, in fact, I think it's next to impossible. The manga is almost over and every single sign that has directions on it points to NaruSaku. Kishi also said he didn't want to focus on romance, and for NaruHina or SasuSaku to happen, he'd have to spend another 50+ chapters of Naruto falling in love with Hinata and Sasuke actually giving a damn about Sakura. Kishi would have to tell the story of why Sasuke started caring, and Naruto fell in love with Hinata. Thus this chapter OBVIOUSLY hinted towards NaruSaku.

yes if we go back to kakashi gaiden when rin confess to kakashi, he says that she was important to obito and loved her and admits that he was trash that would abandon her, kakashi did the same with rin what sasuke did with sakura.

[Dalton.T.R]

yes if we go back to kakashi gaiden when rin confess to kakashi, he says that she was important to obito and loved her and admits that he was trash that would abandon her, kakashi did the same with rin what sasuke did with sakura.

Pretty much.

[candycane-chan]

yes if we go back to kakashi gaiden when rin confess to kakashi, he says that she was important to obito and loved her and admits that he was trash that would abandon her, kakashi did the same with rin what sasuke did with sakura.

i never saw that i tend to skip alot of important moments these days which chapter

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

i never saw that i tend to skip alot of important moments these days which chapter

i dont remeber but the chapter was "heroes of the sharingan" right before naruto returns to the village and start shippuuden's arc.

[Dalton.T.R]

Ok, I've heard the excuses of 1: Minoto=Hinata and Kushina=Naruto
2: Naruto and Sakura are more brother and sister
3: Sakura's a b*tch that deserves to die
4: Hinata's been there from the start.
5: (Has to be my favorite) Naruto and Sakura CAN'T be together because they're too good of friends.
6: Obito is more like Sasuke
6: Tsunade hated Jaraiya
7: Naruto has never loved Sakura
8: Hinata's love is pure
9: Hinata would have no purpose in the plot (Which she doesn't already)
10: Hinata risked her life, has the Byakugan, ETC

What will these NH fans think of next? I had no idea I couldn't date a friend! Was I supposed to just ask a total stranger to go out with me? Well gee... I messed up somewhere down the line.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Ok, I've heard the excuses of 1: Minoto=Hinata and Kushina=Naruto
2: Naruto and Sakura are more brother and sister
3: Sakura's a b*tch that deserves to die
4: Hinata's been there from the start.
5: (Has to be my favorite) Naruto and Sakura CAN'T be together because they're too good of friends.
6: Obito is more like Sasuke
6: Tsunade hated Jaraiya
7: Naruto has never loved Sakura
8: Hinata's love is pure
9: Hinata would have no purpose in the plot (Which she doesn't already)
10: Hinata risked her life, has the Byakugan, ETC

What will these NH fans think of next? I had no idea I couldn't date a friend! Was I supposed to just ask a total stranger to go out with me? Well gee... I messed up somewhere down the line.

why not i've seen some people on this forum saying that sakura is friendzoning naruto when she's not doing this.

[Dalton.T.R]

Hmm... I just found this. Possibly our next big gun... fully loaded and set to kill? lol

http://forum.onemang...mp;postcount=91

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Ok, I've heard the excuses of 1: Minoto=Hinata and Kushina=Naruto
2: Naruto and Sakura are more brother and sister
3: Sakura's a b*tch that deserves to die
4: Hinata's been there from the start.
5: (Has to be my favorite) Naruto and Sakura CAN'T be together because they're too good of friends.
6: Obito is more like Sasuke
6: Tsunade hated Jaraiya
7: Naruto has never loved Sakura
8: Hinata's love is pure
9: Hinata would have no purpose in the plot (Which she doesn't already)
10: Hinata risked her life, has the Byakugan, ETC

What will these NH fans think of next? I had no idea I couldn't date a friend! Was I supposed to just ask a total stranger to go out with me? Well gee... I messed up somewhere down the line.

Wow that 5th one is stupid. You have to get to know the person before dating. At least that's what I'd do. I would never have a boyfriend I wasn't friends with first, even if I liked him. Naruto and Sakura have been friends for years. They know each other inside and out which is why being in a relationship by now would seem pretty reasonable. There's always the chance you can ruin the friendship but that's in real life and shojo. This a Shonen which usually means the person they get with towards the end, stay together. Look at Avatar for an example(an american anime).

I love how Hinata-biased they are. Naruto risked him life for Sakura before yet I don't see them encouraging NaruSaku. And personally my favorite is the "Naruto never loved Sakura" one . I've seen someone on Youtube say that they think Naruto's feelings is a crush and Hinata's is love because Hinata actually confessed and Naruto never did. This amuses me because Naruto loving Sakura makes so much more sense than Hinata loving Naruto, who doesn't know him well to actually love him.

Speaking of Youtube, reading NaruHina and SasuSaku rants on Youtube defending their pairing or trying to back it up with evidence makes me laugh . I saw a NH one that literally disabled all comments(Tells me she didn't want to hear NaruSaku fans proving her wrong). And then a pissed off SasuSaku fan rant for all the bashing they recieve. Hypocritically, she bashed NaruSaku a few times in it and our fanbase . "Naruto and Sakura are too brother-sister" apparently. And I when she said she'll burn the last pages of Naruto if NaruSaku happens. Butthurt fanbases .

Another favorite argument about SS, this time about Road to Ninja: "NaruSaku fans are just butthurt because Sasuke flirted with Sakura first alone in the AU world before anyone else." Clearly she isn't aware of the NaruSaku-ness and parallels in that movie .

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 30 August 2012 - 11:08 PM.

[Gravenimage]

Ok, I've heard the excuses of 1: Minoto=Hinata and Kushina=Naruto
2: Naruto and Sakura are more brother and sister
3: Sakura's a b*tch that deserves to die
4: Hinata's been there from the start.
5: (Has to be my favorite) Naruto and Sakura CAN'T be together because they're too good of friends.
6: Obito is more like Sasuke
6: Tsunade hated Jaraiya
7: Naruto has never loved Sakura
8: Hinata's love is pure
9: Hinata would have no purpose in the plot (Which she doesn't already)
10: Hinata risked her life, has the Byakugan, ETC

What will these NH fans think of next? I had no idea I couldn't date a friend! Was I supposed to just ask a total stranger to go out with me? Well gee... I messed up somewhere down the line.

Honestly can we stop bringing what the opposite fandom thinks? Because in all honesty we should care less what they think. Can we just ignore it and move on? Bringing this back again will make other members to start speaking trash that will eventually turn into bashing and this is how it all begins. This will lead to the thread getting closed for the 3rd time let's avoid this please. This is the debate thread for NS we talk about NS here not what NH fans think or what SS fans think. It's not our business to know what they think, just like us they have a right to support their pairings because it's their favorite pairing. Yes NS is very much canon in the manga with all evidence and so many parallels Kishi has brought it so freaking obvious NS will be the end game pairing, its as obvious as Tobi being Obito. But let's just avoid any personal opinions from opposite fandoms.

[candycane-chan]

greatclist DALTON but you forgot some things; 11) hinata would kill herself if she doesnt end up with naruto 12)hinata has bigger breasts 13)naruto is a SS fan 14) sakura in the end will heal sasuke's eyes 15)sakura's feelings are geniune bat naruto will build a bridge and get ober it 16) the girls feeling are more important 17)obito was jealous just like sasuke was 18) obito told kakashi to protect rin like sasuke did 18) kakarin is just like sasusaku 19)unlike narusaku sasusaku doesnt need parallels( forget what they said in numbers 17 and 18 20)because mikoto supports sasusaku,how you ask,well let me explain ,when kushina was talking to mikoto about baby sasuke mikoto sai that he'll be a fine shinobi and the lover nin said that he must be a great guy for her to love him( thats a new level of desperation ) 21) sasusaku is HOT 22)sasuke will open his eyes evanually

[Dalton.T.R]

greatclist DALTON but you forgot some things; 11) hinata would kill herself if she doesnt end up with naruto 12)hinata has bigger breasts 13)naruto is a SS fan 14) sakura in the end will heal sasuke's eyes 15)sakura's feelings are geniune bat naruto will build a bridge and get ober it 16) the girls feeling are more important 17)obito was jealous just like sasuke was 18) obito told kakashi to protect rin like sasuke did 18) kakarin is just like sasusaku 19)unlike narusaku sasusaku doesnt need parallels( forget what they said in numbers 17 and 18 20)because mikoto supports sasusaku,how you ask,well let me explain ,when kushina was talking to mikoto about baby sasuke mikoto sai that he'll be a fine shinobi and the lover nin said that he must be a great guy for her to love him( thats a new level of desperation ) 21) sasusaku is HOT 22)sasuke will open his eyes evanually

Of course, of course! But my fingers were cramping up and I had to stop typing lol. Working on a book for four or five hours straight gives'em a real workout.

[candycane-chan]

Of course, of course! But my fingers were cramping up and I had to stop typing lol. Working on a book for four or five hours straight gives'em a real workout.

lol and GRAVINAGE: okay i wont mention something like that again but sometimes its interesting knowing what the other fans think,just sayin , like tobi says " candycane-chan is a good girl )

Edited by candycane-chan, 30 August 2012 - 11:59 PM.

[Transformers03]

To think, that maybe the other Pairing fandoms are making fun of our arguments and logic just like what we are doing right now.