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#3801 Super Boom

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:42 AM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jun 2 2011, 09:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yea Ive heard many things like something after Shippuden, but I doubt it. It will most likely end with Naruto at this age and maybe him older in the epilogue.....actually I wouldn't mind him being the same age as hokage and together with Sakura, that part has to be made clear.

Some people even want a spin off I would hate that.


Depends how he'd do it. I'd like a 1-2 arc epilogue to show how the ninja world is getting along after the war. Maybe show Naruto's kid go on his first mission, which would just happen be in the Land of Waves, sort of like an homage to the first arc of the series. Maybe Naruto's son, Sasuke's son, and someone's daughter all on a team under Shikamaru or an older Kakashi? Random thought.
Then again, maybe he'll take another page out of Toriyama's book and keep going after the war. I read somewhere that Dragonball was supposed to end after Son Goku and Chi-chi's wedding, but he was pressured to keep going and went forward with Dragonball Z.

I've also heard that Kishi expressed interest in a spin-off featuring Minato as the main character. That'd be pretty interesting, I guess.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:01 AM

bad question about sakura's confession. did she only she loved him just to get rid of her own guilt?

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 03:33 AM

QUOTE (lelouch the lord @ Jun 2 2011, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bad question about sakura's confession. did she only she loved him just to get rid of her own guilt?


I think it's a little bit of everything, admiration, love, respect, trying to rid of the burden. Hopefully, this leads to a happy ending that we all agree on. If not, at least I hope they still have that best friend relation to fall back on.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 04:11 AM

QUOTE (lelouch the lord @ Jun 2 2011, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
bad question about sakura's confession. did she only she loved him just to get rid of her own guilt?


Hmm, this has been debated way too many times already, but I'll answer anyway.
I wouldn't say that was the only reason. If she only cared about her own guilt, she wouldn't have used his feelings against him, that's way too OOC for Sakura to do. Since Sai told her how selfless Naruto's love for her is, she would have realized how faking a confession would do more harm than good. Besides, her reaction to Naruto's 'I hate people who lie to themselves' comment seems to prove at least part of the confession was truth.


QUOTE (anguyen92 @ Jun 2 2011, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think it's a little bit of everything, admiration, love, respect, trying to rid of the burden. Hopefully, this leads to a happy ending that we all agree on. If not, at least I hope they still have that best friend relation to fall back on.


I'm sure we'll get a happy ending. The best friends aspect just proves how compatible they are. Fan-girling a guy until he falls for you (SS/NH) doesn't work as a realistic relationship.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:02 AM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Jun 2 2011, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Depends how he'd do it. I'd like a 1-2 arc epilogue to show how the ninja world is getting along after the war. Maybe show Naruto's kid go on his first mission, which would just happen be in the Land of Waves, sort of like an homage to the first arc of the series. Maybe Naruto's son, Sasuke's son, and someone's daughter all on a team under Shikamaru or an older Kakashi? Random thought.
Then again, maybe he'll take another page out of Toriyama's book and keep going after the war. I read somewhere that Dragonball was supposed to end after Son Goku and Chi-chi's wedding, but he was pressured to keep going and went forward with Dragonball Z.

I've also heard that Kishi expressed interest in a spin-off featuring Minato as the main character. That'd be pretty interesting, I guess.

Really that long of an epilogue? Or Naruto could be the squad leader

Or after Naruto vs sasuke nobody wins or loses and sasuke goes into hiding or everyone thinks hes dead until 2 half yrs later he attacks the leaf

Oh and I heard so many things about Dbz true ending points
One after the frieza saga, with Goku becoming the legendary supersayin, then after Cell to show how Gohan was the future protector and then he was pressured to do buu and GT

Edited by bthug, 03 June 2011 - 06:03 AM.


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Posted 03 June 2011 - 07:54 AM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jun 3 2011, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been reading other topic but I decided to ask here because it seems more appropriate. Why is the bond between Naruto and Sasuke considered the stongest(and most important) one in the series?
I uderstand Naruto thinks of him as a best friend and a brother. He would do anything to save him. But that relationship is becoming more and more onesided. We don't know how exactly Sasuke felt or feels right now, but he doesn't care too much. They've had minimal interaction in a long time.
On the other hand I think NaruSaku formed a even stronger relationship in Sasuke's absence. They came to depend on each other.
I don't understand why their connection is never emphesised.


Probably because the characters themselves don't know it yet. They are still too focused on Sasuke that they didn't notice they are getting closer together more than ever. If both of them were to confront this feelings directly, like having a proper conversation about this than it would be fine. But there hasn't been much opportunity to do this.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:14 PM

Maybe Kishi doesn't realize the magnitude of the bond he has created?
Maybe he's just waiting to show it

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:42 PM

Probably, it have to do with something like being alone for a long time, and Naruto could see the pain and try to save him. Quite frankly, I think it is a lost cause, and probably will result in one of them ending the series alive.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 02:54 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jun 3 2011, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been reading other topic but I decided to ask here because it seems more appropriate. Why is the bond between Naruto and Sasuke considered the stongest(and most important) one in the series?
I uderstand Naruto thinks of him as a best friend and a brother. He would do anything to save him. But that relationship is becoming more and more onesided. We don't know how exactly Sasuke felt or feels right now, but he doesn't care too much. They've had minimal interaction in a long time.
On the other hand I think NaruSaku formed a even stronger relationship in Sasuke's absence. They came to depend on each other.
I don't understand why their connection is never emphesised.


My guess is that it is because of their similar (yet very different) childhood. They both grew up alone; Naruto because no one wanted to have something to do with him because of kyuubi and Sasuke because he didn't want to have anything to do with the people around him.

Their "friendship/rivalry" was for both of them the very "first" bond they ever made. For Sasuke this would be after he lost all his others I don't think he actually made a bond with anyone between the time his clan was murdered and he became friends with Naruto.

I don't think their bond is one sided (I'll try explaining but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make my point), they both feel the same way about that they will eventually face each other in a battle. Neither of them thinks he's going to lose pretty much the same as in the beginning of the series but then with Sasuke's desire to kill. I still doubt that Naruto see's Sasuke as a real friend, more like an old comrade or smthng.

I'm still not sure if someone will get my point and even less if someone feels the same way about it, but I tried...

NaruSaku on the other hand is not entirely developed yet, it's close but it isn't there yet. And the story seems to develop entirely around the bond of Naruto and Sasuke (in a rough way).

Also I don't think Kishi is going to emphasise to much, for the pairing wars and all that stuff...

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 04:57 PM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Jun 3 2011, 10:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My guess is that it is because of their similar (yet very different) childhood. They both grew up alone; Naruto because no one wanted to have something to do with him because of kyuubi and Sasuke because he didn't want to have anything to do with the people around him.

Their "friendship/rivalry" was for both of them the very "first" bond they ever made. For Sasuke this would be after he lost all his others I don't think he actually made a bond with anyone between the time his clan was murdered and he became friends with Naruto.

I don't think their bond is one sided (I'll try explaining but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make my point), they both feel the same way about that they will eventually face each other in a battle. Neither of them thinks he's going to lose pretty much the same as in the beginning of the series but then with Sasuke's desire to kill. I still doubt that Naruto see's Sasuke as a real friend, more like an old comrade or smthng.

I'm still not sure if someone will get my point and even less if someone feels the same way about it, but I tried...

NaruSaku on the other hand is not entirely developed yet, it's close but it isn't there yet. And the story seems to develop entirely around the bond of Naruto and Sasuke (in a rough way).

Also I don't think Kishi is going to emphasise to much, for the pairing wars and all that stuff...


Yea that probably sums up the whole thing

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Jun 3 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My guess is that it is because of their similar (yet very different) childhood. They both grew up alone; Naruto because no one wanted to have something to do with him because of kyuubi and Sasuke because he didn't want to have anything to do with the people around him.

Their "friendship/rivalry" was for both of them the very "first" bond they ever made. For Sasuke this would be after he lost all his others I don't think he actually made a bond with anyone between the time his clan was murdered and he became friends with Naruto.

I don't think their bond is one sided (I'll try explaining but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make my point), they both feel the same way about that they will eventually face each other in a battle. Neither of them thinks he's going to lose pretty much the same as in the beginning of the series but then with Sasuke's desire to kill. I still doubt that Naruto see's Sasuke as a real friend, more like an old comrade or smthng.

I'm still not sure if someone will get my point and even less if someone feels the same way about it, but I tried...

NaruSaku on the other hand is not entirely developed yet, it's close but it isn't there yet. And the story seems to develop entirely around the bond of Naruto and Sasuke (in a rough way).

Also I don't think Kishi is going to emphasise to much, for the pairing wars and all that stuff...


But that doesn't mean he's not going to tease about the pairings either. sleep.gif
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jun 3 2011, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been reading other topic but I decided to ask here because it seems more appropriate. Why is the bond between Naruto and Sasuke considered the stongest(and most important) one in the series?
I uderstand Naruto thinks of him as a best friend and a brother. He would do anything to save him. But that relationship is becoming more and more onesided. We don't know how exactly Sasuke felt or feels right now, but he doesn't care too much. They've had minimal interaction in a long time.
On the other hand I think NaruSaku formed a even stronger relationship in Sasuke's absence. They came to depend on each other.
I don't understand why their connection is never emphesised.

Personally I agree, I've never felt like Naruto and sasuke were best friends, more like comarades with a similar past, but alot of ppl in Naruto have similar past i.e. Gaara
Especially from sasuke, it never seemed like they were friends, and when he did save him it was more of because he had to thats just my opinion.

As for Narusaku, yes in there world they should or are on the verge or realizing how close they've actually become.
But in our world its something that Kishi will bring together most likely at the end of the manga.

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 06:37 PM

QUOTE (Torxe @ Jun 3 2011, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My guess is that it is because of their similar (yet very different) childhood. They both grew up alone; Naruto because no one wanted to have something to do with him because of kyuubi and Sasuke because he didn't want to have anything to do with the people around him.

Their "friendship/rivalry" was for both of them the very "first" bond they ever made. For Sasuke this would be after he lost all his others I don't think he actually made a bond with anyone between the time his clan was murdered and he became friends with Naruto.

I don't think their bond is one sided (I'll try explaining but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to make my point), they both feel the same way about that they will eventually face each other in a battle. Neither of them thinks he's going to lose pretty much the same as in the beginning of the series but then with Sasuke's desire to kill. I still doubt that Naruto see's Sasuke as a real friend, more like an old comrade or smthng.

I'm still not sure if someone will get my point and even less if someone feels the same way about it, but I tried...

NaruSaku on the other hand is not entirely developed yet, it's close but it isn't there yet. And the story seems to develop entirely around the bond of Naruto and Sasuke (in a rough way).

Also I don't think Kishi is going to emphasise to much, for the pairing wars and all that stuff...


yup, i'm pretty sure you got your point across. and i agree a_thumbs.gif
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 08:41 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jun 3 2011, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Personally I agree, I've never felt like Naruto and sasuke were best friends, more like comarades with a similar past, but alot of ppl in Naruto have similar past i.e. Gaara
Especially from sasuke, it never seemed like they were friends, and when he did save him it was more of because he had to thats just my opinion.

As for Narusaku, yes in there world they should or are on the verge or realizing how close they've actually become.
But in our world its something that Kishi will bring together most likely at the end of the manga.

Of course they're best friends Sasuke even says so himself at the fight of the valley of the end. Besides out of all the people Sasuke knew, there is not a single one that treated the he treated the same as Naruto, although they did fight a lot you could still see the brotherly bond they shared, I mean come on, for those of you who have brothers how many of you have never fought with each other?
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Posted 03 June 2011 - 09:30 PM

No I think they are still best friends Sasuke just disregards it because he is determined to to be deterred from his revenge. If Naruto's words did not make an impact on him he wouldn't need to say he needs to destroy what Naruto stands for He'll just ignore it like any other comment the emphasizing theme of Naruto is the bonds with people that have made an impact on your life, which is why maybe Sakura was thinking of Sasuke. in that last chapter I think she REALLY meant she loved Naruto its just when the guy said she must like a really great person she probably thought it was not always so because her first love is now a global scale criminal Even though her feelings for Naruto is much greater wow.png she was probably thinking" No I did not always like a great person...Though I do now, my first crush is a world wide threat..." well maybe its that, but if she is still Hesitant about letting Sasuke go she HAS to remember she has someone even more important to her biggrin.gif

Oh another thing. WHAT HUUUUUUUGE SS shippers we have on Narutopedia dry.gif its not funny just cause they don't see that NS is true they delete any regards to their relationship no.gif

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Posted 03 June 2011 - 11:37 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Jun 3 2011, 11:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No I think they are still best friends Sasuke just disregards it because he is determined to to be deterred from his revenge. If Naruto's words did not make an impact on him he wouldn't need to say he needs to destroy what Naruto stands for He'll just ignore it like any other comment the emphasizing theme of Naruto is the bonds with people that have made an impact on your life, which is why maybe Sakura was thinking of Sasuke. in that last chapter I think she REALLY meant she loved Naruto its just when the guy said she must like a really great person she probably thought it was not always so because her first love is now a global scale criminal Even though her feelings for Naruto is much greater wow.png she was probably thinking" No I did not always like a great person...Though I do now, my first crush is a world wide threat..." well maybe its that, but if she is still Hesitant about letting Sasuke go she HAS to remember she has someone even more important to her biggrin.gif

Oh another thing. WHAT HUUUUUUUGE SS shippers we have on Narutopedia dry.gif its not funny just cause they don't see that NS is true they delete any regards to their relationship no.gif


I also think that she meant Naruto in 539 because Sakura has a calm expression when she answers that guy.
Only after the 'great man' talk does she look extremely sad.
Whatsmore, that guy being rejected by Sakura is what shows her that there are people who DO NOT go to extremes for their love interest. Sakura has always gone to extremes so that Sasuke acknowledges her and gets to experience positive emotions like affection. Sakura is a caring and tender shinobi. That's why her desire to help Sasuke overcome his anger and blood lust has changed into the desire to save people by healing them. She actually compensates for her unsuccessful attempt to 'heal' Sasuke's psychological 'wounds'. So her love for Sasuke has already changed to sympathy.
If you look back on all the times when her confidence about bringing Sasuke back was 'replenished' then you come to the conclusion that she would be a pitiable character if her LOVE had always been replenished, too. But if it's really sympathy that still gives her hope, then the whole replenishment imagery doesn't convey the impression that she's artificially pushed to cling to Sasuke.

Edited by rastaman, 03 June 2011 - 11:50 PM.


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Posted 04 June 2011 - 03:13 AM

Huh I only said she could possibly be holding on to her crush for Sasuke I'm not degrading her only that if she is We need another NS moment to see how she's changed laugh.gif

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 05:04 AM

When do you think the Narusaku moment will be? Maybe chapter 543?

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 09:20 AM

QUOTE (bthug @ Jun 4 2011, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
When do you think the Narusaku moment will be? Maybe chapter 543?


Nah, maybe around chapter 455.

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Posted 04 June 2011 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Jun 4 2011, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing that makes me mad is Naruto still considering his bond with Sasuke the strongest. Even if they had minimal or close to no interaction in a long time, with Sasuke betraying everyone and openly saying he doesn't give a damn.
I mean, Sakura's been by his side all that time and they went through everything together.


I think Kakashi's words to Sakura at the end of the bell test are fitting for Naruto, just change the arrangement of the name slightly: Naruto, Sakura was right beside you, but you were only thinking of Sasuke, who was far away."
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