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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:15 AM

does sasuke care about sakura heres an proof by a sasusaku facepalm.png

what do u think

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Proof that Sasuke cares for Sakura.. -During the bell test, when Sakura fainted from seeing his head above ground, and the rest below, Sasuke waited for her to wake up, even though he probably knows he's wasting time.
-When they were escorting Tazuna to the Wave Country, Sasuke rushed in front of Sakura to protect her and Tazuna, even though Kakashi would have come.
-When Sasuke and Naruto were fighting Haku, Zabuza went to attack Tazuna but Kakashi protected him and Sakura screamed. When she did, you could hear worry in Sasuke's voice when they heard her.
-During the Chuunin Exams in The Forest of Death, when Sasuke and Sakura first found Orochimaru, disguised as a grass nin, when he stabbed his leg to get rid of the whole frozen in fear thing, when he went to pick up Sakura, he could have done it many ways, but he chose to pick her up bridal style.
-Again during the Chunnin Exams in The Forest of Death, when Sasuke and Naruto were fighting Orochimaru disguised as a grass nin, after Orochimaru gave Naruto the five-pronged seal. When Sakura called him a coward, he reacted. He didn't react when Naruto called him a coward.
-After Orochimaru gave Sasuke the Cursed Seal, Sakura went to help him. I'm not sure if this is just because he was in a lot of pain, but instead of dealing with the pain by himself, like I thought he would, he actually let Sakura help him and the animators made him faint onto her. In addition, you could see how Sasuke squeezes Sakura's hand with his own, as if asking her to not let him go.
-Also during the Chuunin Exams in The Forest of Death, when Sasuke wakes up, the first thing he does is ask Sakura who hurt her. Even the the influence of the Curse Seal couldn't change the bond he has with her.
-Another in The Forest of Death, when Sakura hugged him, the Curse Seal receded. I think that happened because Sakura's just about the only person who can suppress Sasuke's dark side...the pity things is it wasn't enough...

-During the Preliminary Rounds of the Chuunin Exams, the first thing Sasuke thought of when he was trying to make his curse mark recede was the image of Sakura crying, begging him to stop. Again a proof that Sakura has some sort of control over his mind.
-After Gaara semi-changed into his Shukaku form, and after he pinned Sakura to the tree with his sand hand, Sasuke told Naruto that he had better save Sakura no matter what, then run away.
-Also during this time, Sasuke also said that he wouldn't allow another important friend to die in front of him, referring to Sakura.

-Again during this time, when Sasuke went to catch Sakura after the sand released her, there were many ways of catching her, but he had to catch her bridal style. I know that's the way she fell, but then, who made her fall that way. The people who make Naruto. I say, they're hinting something by making Sakura fall in that manner. -Once again, after Sasuke caught Sakura and went to lay her down on a branch, if you look closely, you will noticed his hand lingers under her head for a split second.
-Do I have to say it, when Sasuke told Pakkun to take care of Sakura, you could hear worry in his voice. His eyes also softened a bit.
-After the Hokage's funeral, in the flashback when Sakura asked Sasuke if he save her, he said that Naruto saved her. You can tell that he had regret and sadness in his voice. Like he wanted to save her.
-When they were escorting Idate through the race, while on the boat when the Rain nin were attacking, Sakura's arm was hit by a kunai. Even though it was only a small cut, when she cried out in pain, Sasuke showed a hint of worry on his face. (More than just a hint in my book.)
-When Ino hugged him during the Chuunin Exams, Sasuke was very mad and pissed off. But when Sakura hugged him in the hospital, he didn't have any hatred in his eyes and he let her.
-During Naruto and Sasuke's fight on the hospital roof, when Sakura ran in the way to try and stop them, Sasuke wanted to pull back. It means he cares for her well being in some way; or else, he would have just ran her through.

-This one I thought was implied. Who confronted Sasuke the night he left? Sakura. And there was more to it than it seems: I think Sakura, judging by the look Sasuke had in his eyes, really made Sasuke wonder if he should leave. Watch it closely, people! -Again, when Sasuke was leaving, he put up with all of Sakura's talking instead of ignoring her like he normally does. He even gave her a speech. A short one, but still.
-Also when Sasuke was leaving, before he knocked her out, he said "Thank you." This shows that he was actually thankful that she loves him...provided that Sakura was almost the only person in the world who actually loved him (he lost his family after all) and still loves him...that's way worth to be thanking her for, don't you think?
-The night Sasuke was leaving, just before he said, "Sakura...Thank you" you can see, if you look closely, that he's biting his lower lip before he talks and then knocks her out.
-In the English dub, you can hear how sincere Sasuke's voice is.
-Also in the English dub, Sasuke, instead of saying, "Thank you" like in the Japanese, he says "Thank you for everything." I know they want to get the lip motions right but come on, how can that NOT point to something.
-When Sasuke knocked her out, he could have left her on the ground where she lay, but he chose to lay her on the bench.
-After Sasuke knocked Sakura out I could tell that he caught her. The thud when the screen was blank sounds like Sakura fell to the ground but it's actually Sasuke catching her. I know this because of the way Sakura started to fall. That ground was stone and if Sasuke didn't catch her, she would have hit her head severely. If that happened, she wouldn't have been able to wake up the next morning when the ANBU people woke her up.
-Sasuke knows that Sakura is weaker than Naruto, yet he doesn't call her 'weak' or 'idiot'. Just 'annoying'. And I also think that he calls her like that in a good way...I mean by annoying someone, you could really make yourself noticed and even show your better side...Welll, at least this is how it is the real life...So why the hell this cannot be in anime too? In conclusion: Sakura manages to at least make him feel something.

Only for up to date manga readers... -Very subtle hint that may just be my opinion. When Sasuke blows up the hallway and he's looking down in the hole at Sai, Sakura is the first one to see the new Sasuke. She's the one he last saw when he left Konoha (left the city, not during the Find Sasuke Arc) and she's the first one he sees out of Team 7.
-When Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato go to find Sasuke, and after they do. It was after Sasuke talked with the Kyuubi. He said that he didn't want to use any of his cruder methods. Of course, Orochimaru stopped him, but that shows that even after two and a half years, he still cares, even if it's just a little. He still has "bonds."
-When Naruto, Sakura, Sai and Yamato met up with Sasuke, the only one to come out from that meeting physically unharmed was Sakura.
-Some say that Karin, in Team Hebi, has hot pink hair. That is possible, cause if the pink is darker, i think manga-drawers would actually make them black...well, you can't make them grey, like between light pink and brown or red. But back to the topic. If Karin did have pink hair then maybe Sasuke picked her because she reminded him of Sakura. The pink hair and the specialty with chakra.



the sad things is this was all part one sasuke

Edited by firegirl, 17 February 2010 - 03:19 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:20 AM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Feb 16 2010, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
does sasuke care about sakura heres an proof by a sasusaku facepalm.png

what do u think


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:23 AM

QUOTE (firegirl @ Feb 17 2010, 04:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
does sasuke care about sakura heres an proof by a sasusaku facepalm.png

what do u think

the sad things is this was all part one sasuke


I won't add anything else beside : facepalm.png

Anyway, how about we stop posting what the SS fan think, it starting to get old and repetitive. Beside, by doing so, we bash the SS fan so let stop it guys

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 17 2010, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay i'mma make up a bunch of questions for you guys:

1) Do you think Madara will possibly come close to extracting the Nine-tails from Naruto?

I would really like for that to happen. I mean, the whole 'moon eyes' plan is still there but I think that Madara will need more back up. Then again, with Sasuke anything could happen


2) Do you think Naruto and Sakura tell each other there feelings face-to-face?

Well, Sakura already told Naruto. However, I doubt that Naruto will say it. Knowing him, it probably be Sakura that will make the first move tongue.gif


3) Do you think Karin is going to die, for real?

Well, considering what we've see in the spoiler, with Sakura being there, I would say no


4) Do you think the anime is stupid sometimes? fu.png

Depend on what you find stupid in the anime

5) Will Sai be Pro-NS forever?

Do you even doubt it, I sure don't

6) What do you think Yamato would have said to Sakura at the end of his speech if Naruto didn't wake up?

Again, You already anwser the question Shippu-chan wink.gif

Edited by silverserenity, 17 February 2010 - 03:37 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:24 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 17 2010, 04:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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^^ Back on topic my lovelys! No bash.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:00 AM

I already said this on another tthread but what the hell

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We will see some moments happening between them which will lead them to be canon. When you think about several characters in a way have been pushing them towards each other (including Sasuke).

1. Kakashi states their similarity
2. Sasuke confirms Sakura to understand Naruto & his deflection led NS developing stronger bond
3. Konohamaru implies to Naruto that Sakura is possibly his girlfriend
4. Iruka explains to importance of heaven & earth which we seen implied in part 2
5. Jiraiya & Tsunade represents mistakes that Naruto & Sakura should learn and not take
6. Yamato figure Sakura's true feelings towards Naruto
7. Sai made sure that Naruto & Sakura are more open & honest with each other

Now since its out that they love each other its really up to NS to figure things out from here on their without any assistance from the others

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:22 AM

I highly recommend that those questions shouldn't be answered here. Post here only for debating NaruSaku against other pairings, please. Not some other questions.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:24 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Feb 17 2010, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I highly recommend that those questions shouldn't be answered here. Post here only for debating NaruSaku against other pairings, please. Not some other questions.


sweatdrop.gif Oh-Okay, it was kinda getting off topic before so I tried to get it back. Woops.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:29 AM

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Alrighty then! More fun, stupid questions that Silver-chan is going to say "You already answered that Shippu-chan" lol...

1) As Kakashi's year, do you think we'll learn more about Minato and Kakashi's past?

I sure hope so. That could be very plausible that he's the one to tell Naruto info about his parent. After all, Minato was his teacher.

2) When do you think Tsunade will come out of her coma [Or never come out]?

I have a very bad feeling that she won't.

3) Think Sakura has a new genjutsu?

Well, considering Tsunade way of training and speciality, I have my doubt that Sakura have train to improved her genjustu skill.


4) Do you think Naruto will feel it's too late to save Sasuke from the dark when he see's him again [Or hear what he ALMOST did]?

Considering his hyperventilating reaction , I would say that he's starting to realize that the Sasuke that he knew isn't there. However, I think that he'll fully realize it only when he see Sasuke again.


5) Do you think Kakashi's year will be better then this year [That mainly focused on Sasuke]?

OH GOD, I sure hope so. As for the Sasuke's part, i think that we have heard every thing on him and we know what he want to do so, if we see him again, it will be on fighting scene only or when he planing to attack...well, you know what I mean



Edited by silverserenity, 17 February 2010 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:33 AM

New argument I have why NaruHina wouldn't work, wanna hear it? Just a little piece of info that everyone seems to be over-looking which is actually reaally important.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:40 AM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 17 2010, 05:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
New argument I have why NaruHina wouldn't work, wanna hear it? Just a little piece of info that everyone seems to be over-looking which is actually reaally important.


Why not, if it pertinent of course.

Well, I'll see that later, I'm beat, good night everyone or good day, depend on where you are happy.gif

Edited by silverserenity, 17 February 2010 - 04:49 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 04:58 AM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 17 2010, 05:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why not, if it pertinent of course.


Okay, I don't know if this is obvious or not but Hinata is a Hyuuga, meaning one of the most important clans in Konoha. She's also part of the main family line, and if i'm correct Royal clans or whatever in japanese culture marry within' the bloodline. What's this have to do with NaruHina? Everything. Hinata could never be with Naruto because of her family, they would refuse her any relations with him as a couple. Kishimoto-sama isn't gonna write some sorta Romeo & Juliet thing; because if he made NaruHina canon that's what would happen in this case. Hinata is the head eres, or princess of the Hyuuga clan; I can tell you right now that Hinata wouldn't go against her father no matter how strongly she feels for Naruto, it would be her vs her clan, and also for all we know she could have an arranged marriage, which could actually be to Neji because it's not uncommon for cousins to marry in Japan. See? People are seeing NaruHina at a American view, but Kishimoto lives in Japan and strongly bases his Manga on Japanese culture and mythology.
As for NaruSaku, Naruto isn't part of any major clan or as we sadly all know, he is alone. Sakura isn't part of a major clan/family either with any special genjutsu, or anything like that. So Naruto and Sakura COULD be together without clan history or bloodline interefence. Sakura's clan might actually runs Konoha's library (Though never stated, there IS evidence from NF) so i'm sure they won't care for her to marry whoever she wants. Of course I don't have strong evidence to back-up Sakura's family history, heck she's the only Haruno we know, we know more about the Uzumaki clan then her's! Obviously, for the Uzumaki's they could marry whoever because Kushina was able to marry Minato and he isn't a Uzumaki. Again, this is a shonen jump Manga, Kishimoto isn't going to write some Romeo & Juliet for NaruHina fans to enjoy; Naruto and Sakura already have development beyond what Hinata could ever have with Naruto. There you go.
I was thinking about this subject for a while now about Hinata's clan and Naruto's. Nope. There's some really important stuff that can prove NaruHina isn't gonna be canon now, let alone ever. But hey, this is Kishimoto, but i still doubt he'll do a Romeo & Juliet, Naruto & Hinata thing. There's my argument. ^^

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 07:06 AM

is there any reason NS wouldent work with with sakuras conffeshon between them tear them apart

do yous think it was real or fake trying to get naruto to stop chaseing sasuke?

Edited by SS3 Goku, 17 February 2010 - 07:11 AM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 08:04 AM

Alright, I was planning on avoiding the spoilers this week. But I heard about what happened in other thread.

Do you see? You were worrying about nothing.

I'll admit outloud I was slightly troubled. I was pretty sure what
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Sakura was trying deceiving Sasuke in order to kill him
given the character and plot development, but Kishimoto could solve it in one chapter or drag it out. Or I could be wrong. But no, my assessment was correct. And Sakura
will be the one will save Karin
, right how I thought.

So
no Sakura confessing Sasuke again, no Sakura joining Sasuke, no Sakura/Karin catfight (and why would someone WANT seeing such a pitiful show?)
. Again an apparently anti-NS moment has turned out to be one false alarm. That is what has always happened since the start of this manga, so we -obviously I'm including myself- should learn to remain calm and wait and see when they happen.

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Okay, I don't know if this is obvious or not but Hinata is a Hyuuga, meaning one of the most important clans in Konoha. She's also part of the main family line, and if i'm correct Royal clans or whatever in japanese culture marry within' the bloodline. What's this have to do with NaruHina? Everything. Hinata could never be with Naruto because of her family, they would refuse her any relations with him as a couple.


I am not sure about that. Nevertheless, I think it isn't a strong point, since we don't know how the Hyuuga clan works. Remember, Naruto's world isn't Middle Ages Japan, even if the world-building is heavily based on it. We don't even know if there is or isn't an Emperor/Emperess ruling over all Elemental Countries (in spite of they are basically fiefdoms). So we don't know if clans or Hyuuga clan work like that.

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is there any reason NS wouldent work with with sakuras conffeshon between them tear them apart

do yous think it was real or fake trying to get naruto to stop chaseing sasuke?


I think it was real.

Besides, Sakura didn't need confessing if all she wanted was to stop Naruto of chasing their foolish ex-teammate.

Edited by Jenskott, 17 February 2010 - 08:12 AM.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 12:31 PM

This chapter pretty much shows how much Sakura has changed and mature into a better person. Back at part 1 she asked Sasuke to take her with him because she "supposedly rolleyes.gif" loves him very much and she will help him in his revenge no matter what. Now she asked him the same thing only this time it was a fake act in order to get close to him and kill him. Looks like Sakura knows very well that Sasuke is gone forever and not the same person she once knew, now there's only one person she cares and will do anything for him to protect him, I don't need to say who? tongue.gif
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:01 PM

QUOTE (ShippudenGirl @ Feb 17 2010, 04:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, I don't know if this is obvious or not but Hinata is a Hyuuga, meaning one of the most important clans in Konoha. She's also part of the main family line, and if i'm correct Royal clans or whatever in japanese culture marry within' the bloodline. What's this have to do with NaruHina? Everything. Hinata could never be with Naruto because of her family, they would refuse her any relations with him as a couple. Kishimoto-sama isn't gonna write some sorta Romeo & Juliet thing; because if he made NaruHina canon that's what would happen in this case. Hinata is the head eres, or princess of the Hyuuga clan; I can tell you right now that Hinata wouldn't go against her father no matter how strongly she feels for Naruto, it would be her vs her clan, and also for all we know she could have an arranged marriage, which could actually be to Neji because it's not uncommon for cousins to marry in Japan. See? People are seeing NaruHina at a American view, but Kishimoto lives in Japan and strongly bases his Manga on Japanese culture and mythology.
As for NaruSaku, Naruto isn't part of any major clan or as we sadly all know, he is alone. Sakura isn't part of a major clan/family either with any special genjutsu, or anything like that. So Naruto and Sakura COULD be together without clan history or bloodline interefence. Sakura's clan might actually runs Konoha's library (Though never stated, there IS evidence from NF) so i'm sure they won't care for her to marry whoever she wants. Of course I don't have strong evidence to back-up Sakura's family history, heck she's the only Haruno we know, we know more about the Uzumaki clan then her's! Obviously, for the Uzumaki's they could marry whoever because Kushina was able to marry Minato and he isn't a Uzumaki. Again, this is a shonen jump Manga, Kishimoto isn't going to write some Romeo & Juliet for NaruHina fans to enjoy; Naruto and Sakura already have development beyond what Hinata could ever have with Naruto. There you go.
I was thinking about this subject for a while now about Hinata's clan and Naruto's. Nope. There's some really important stuff that can prove NaruHina isn't gonna be canon now, let alone ever. But hey, this is Kishimoto, but i still doubt he'll do a Romeo & Juliet, Naruto & Hinata thing. There's my argument. ^^


Agreed,

Of course, we didn't see much of the Hyuuga juridiction on how to deal with relationship out of the clan. However, I think that it a good argument anyway since it, indeed could cause problem in the hyuuga concil and I doubt that Kishi will waste panel that could be valuable to fighting scene and developping principal characters background. Like you said, Kishi will not turn out his story in Romeo and Juliet because, like we said it many time before, it not a Shojo manga.

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 17 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This chapter pretty much shows how much Sakura has changed and mature into a better person. Back at part 1 she asked Sasuke to take her with him because she "supposedly rolleyes.gif" loves him very much and she will help him in his revenge no matter what. Now she asked him the same thing only this time it was a fake act in order to get close to him and kill him. Looks like Sakura knows very well that Sasuke is gone forever and not the same person she once knew, now there's only one person she cares and will do anything for him to protect him, I don't need to say who? tongue.gif


I agreed,

We already saw how she changed in back in the start of Shippuden. The Gaara rescuing arc was pretty much focused on how much she've growned. Just the way she calmly gave to the suna medic the instruction for the operation to extract the poison of Kankuru's body showed that she can take care of difficult situation with assurance. I think that we could see that caracteristic rise again concerning Sasuke. Of course, she hesited a little but she didn't let her fear get the best of her.

Edited by silverserenity, 17 February 2010 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 17 February 2010 - 03:24 PM

QUOTE (silverserenity @ Feb 17 2010, 03:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agreed,

We already saw how she changed in back in the start of Shippuden. The Gaara rescuing arc was pretty much focused on how much she've growned. Just the way she calmly gave to the suna medic the instruction for the operation to extract the poison of Kankuru's body showed that she can take care of difficult situation with assurance. I think that we could see that caracteristic rise again concerning Sasuke. Of course, she hesited a little but she didn't let her fear get the best of her.


*yawn* I agree 100% a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 07:20 PM

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Apparently, there is a theory going around that Sasuke is being controlled by Madara, thus explaining the dark chakra Karin senses.


This reply comes late but... :
I really don't see a way for Madara to really control Sasuke, he more like set the path for Sasuke to walk. Afterall even before (i quess) Tobi was introduced, Kyuubi compared Sasukes aura to that of Madaras.
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Posted 17 February 2010 - 08:22 PM

I say we talk about NaruSaku vs. LeeSaku, it's an interesting topic lol because they both have confessions though Lee's was random and only one scene of them together x] but still.

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 08:35 PM

LeeSaku????!?~?!?!?!?!??!?!?! ewwwww lol

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Posted 17 February 2010 - 08:42 PM

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LeeSaku????!?~?!?!?!?!??!?!?! ewwwww lol


I know it'll never happen.. Ever but still! It would be an interesting topic, like do you think they'd have even the slightest chance? I don't know, Rock Lee is just soo sweet ^^




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