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[TouKen4Life3g]

Well that answered my question...in a disappointing way. Same age and all. Eh.

[AHK]

When he fought Gaara?

  

I agree that the team seven relationship wasnt that great and could've been worked better, but you are forgetting the fight against Gaara too

Didn't Naruto save Sasuke?

[Chatte]

where's himawari? 

nowhere to be seen, apparently.

 

and apparently, the lil' burrito gets the uzumaki symbol while prior having that screwy thing?

[TouKen4Life3g]

When did Sasuke actually show, apart from jumping in front of Haku's needles that wouldn't have done anything to Naruto anyway, that he considered Naruto a friend? If you think about it objectively, the only thing Sasuke ever did was pick on Naruto. He was more so Naruto's bully. And then he went and got jealous of Naruto, and became an angry, jealous bully, that tried to kill him.

It wasn't all that great but I will say this:

If the obsession, Kage Summit (showcasing the nutjob), the disorganized teamwork in War, and the fact the series took this long, didn't happen, Team 7 would come off as something we be happy to see. So you can say "two is too many" out of the moments I adressed above. If one of them only happen, I believe people would care much more heavily.

[luffyq1]

nowhere to be seen, apparently.

 

and apparently, the lil' burrito gets the uzumaki symbol while prior having that screwy thing?

yup. idk why he decided to change it lol.

[AHK]

It wasn't all that great but I will say this:
If the obsession, Kage Summit (showcasing the nutjob), the disorganized teamwork in War, and the fact the series took this long, didn't happen, Team 7 would come off as something we be happy to see. So you can say "two is too many" out of the moments I adressed above. If one of them only happen, I believe people would care much more heavily.

The problem is, to me, that Sasuke knew he was nothin g compared to Itachi, Itachi was everything that he could never be. Looking back on it, Sasuke recognized that and tried to make Naruto feel as inferior as possible so that Sasuke could have someone to look down on.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

Where's this coming from? I don't think that's true at all... you have to take what happened to Sasuke into consideration, you know. 

Moping the set of the movie with her hair 

That wasn't shown in the movie, lol... According to Sakura (aka AH Sakura), it's because "When a girl truly falls in love, her feelings don't change that easily...they can't change" Therefore, even if she had feelings for Naruto, a girl can NEVER change her feelings because somehow her love for Sasuke is "true love" and Hinata's feelings for Naruto is "true love", so they have to support each other Such sexist BS ugh

So Naruto's love for Sakura then too true love...   oh wait, he is a boy, his feelings doesn't matter at all 

[trang95]

 

 

Poor trang I'm sorry you had to subject yourself to such bullsh**. This movie is torture to any respectable Naruto fan

 

Yep, the movie is a total mindkitten! They replaced Sakura and Ino's relationship!! Seriously, Sakura and Ten-ten are more likely to be good friends outside of her relationship with Ino. I'm telling you right now, the BS will only get worse as you go further into the movie.

 

Thx T^T This movie is pathetic. Chracters are either mistrepresented or ignored. Like, was that it from Kiba and Shino in those five seconds?!

I'll finish the movie by Saturday or so (and I'll try to survive.)

 

Sure, she just wants to get Naruto out of the way so she has her road to Sasuke cleared...

She probably wanted to make herself feel better by making sure that her friend won't end up alone b/c she is in love with someone else.

[AHK]

Thx T^T This movie is pathetic. Chracters are either mistrepresented or ignored. Like, was that it from Kiba and Shino in those five seconds?!
I'll finish the movie by Saturday or so (and I'll try to survive.)
 

She probably wanted to make herself feel better by making sure that her friend won't end up alone b/c she is in love with someone else.

You're giving her way to much credit lol

Edited by AHK, 30 January 2015 - 03:48 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

She probably wanted to make herself feel better by making sure that her friend won't end up alone b/c she is in love with someone else.

That's hitting Naruto right in a kokoro, I wonder how bad. Horrible way to at least say "thank you" wich she didn't even tell 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 30 January 2015 - 03:49 PM.

[Nar123]

  
Didn't Naruto save Sasuke?

 

Sasuke regarded Naruto and Sakura as two of his precious persons back then too

Edited by Nar123, 30 January 2015 - 03:49 PM.

[Chatte]

They did this scene brilliantly so once again people will kitten on Sakura while Hinata is show pure and whatnot. Bleh.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

They did this scene brilliantly so once again people will kitten on Sakura while Hinata is show pure and whatnot. Bleh.

So... now I can belive that Kishimoto put something in this movie on his own 

[AHK]

Sasuke regarded Naruto and Sakura as two of his precious persons back then too

Which is highly unbelievable considering his actions back then.

[trang95]

You're giving her way to much credit lol

Maybe I am, imao. But it's sickening to believe that she wants to help Hinata b/c she can "relate" to her.

 

That's hitting Naruto right in a kokoro, I wonder how bad. Horrible way to at least say "thank you" wich she didn't even tell 

Well, it probably hit his Kokoro when she was rejecting his "offscreen" confession.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I watched the new movie and...it is crap. When I saw it, the Naruto in the movie is NOT the Naruto I read in the manga. Naruto in the manga was a kid who never gave up, never let things hold him down, and always tried to make the the best out of any situation. This "New Naruto" is selfish, a liar, and actually was willing to give up on everything...the moment things didn't go his way. He was a baby who got upset because he was jealous. In the manga, Naruto never gave up on bringing Sasuke back, but he gives up on Hinata the moment she rejects him and becomes insanely jealous? This is counter intuitive to the very Naruto I have read for the past 12 years in the manga where he never gave up on Sasuke, Sakura, or anyone else no matter how bad it got. Strike 1.

The New Naruto is also very jaded and stupid as apparently he thinks the love of a person is the same as him loving ramen. You also have him give up on his own mother by literally throwing away his mother's scarf for the sake of Hinata's scarf. The Naruto I read in the manga would never do that. Which by the way, this has never been addressed in the manga at all.

Being unable to write romance properly does NOT justify the manga not supporting any of this or containing any of these details. That is just bad writing all together and it shows how Kishimoto has no respect for his own work. You also have thew fact that this movie was actually penned by Studio Perriot. Not Kishimoto himself. Of course, Road to Ninja was penned by Kishimoto too and that was all NS centered and everyone loved it because it wasn't some stupid romance movie where the entire plot centered around some stupid childish crush.

You also have the fact that Naruto apparently didn't do anything for 2 years after the manga. 2 YEARS. Hinata neither. All the supposed "courage" and stuff that NH fans say Hinata has and it took 2 YEARS to finally get them to even talk to each other? Pathetic.

The movie even goes against the MANGA OWN FACTS by saying that Naruto never truly loved Sakura, but he has said multiple times that he was in love with her. MULTIPLE TIMES with REASON. I am not even going to cover Sakura either and to be honest every character was just reduced to this shallow version of themselves. What happened the development that occurred in the manga? What happened to all the stuff that pushed to characters forward? Well, apparently it was all retconned and they turned into babies who are obsessive, selfish, and absolutely bad people.

Hinata is by far the MOST disgusting. Her sister was kidnapped and had her eyes ripped out and all she cared about was the damn scarf for Naruto. What a selfish kitten. What a complete and selfish person. We also got scenes in this movie that NEVER existed in the manga and never will where all of a sudden Hinata was Naruto's first best friend even though it was said countless times even up until the very final chapters that it was Sasuke and that Hinata was picked on a child. Again, something that was never discussed in the manga and in fact goes against it. The Hyuga were a very renown family and highly respected, why would they pick on her? No other Hyuga got picked on.

The villains is by far the weakest element of this movie and I have to wonder if he is nothing more than a convenient plot device to get NH together. Actually this whole movie is not, but fan-service. Sasuke didn't do anything, Kakashi didn't do anything. nobody did anything. Their entire focus was all on Hinata and her kitten throbbing for Naruto. This is NOT how you do a love story. It is not. Most of the Japanese fanbase, INCLUDING THE VOICE ACTORS THEMSELVES, thought this movie was crap and Kishimoto has admitted that this ending wasn't created for story or amazing wrap-up. It is not even about love. Kishimoto never said anything about how much Naruto loves Hinata in any of his interviews. All he did say was that he felt sorry for Hinata and he used Neji as a guilt trip device. What an insult. So NaruHina isn't love...it is guilt. Naruto feels guilty so he tries to make her happy and in the end makes himself miserable...which explains why in chapter 700 he drinks, eats crappy ramen, and never spends time with his family...everything his mother told him NOT to do.

Naruto is a disgrace to himself...and he is disgrace to his fans who by the way are all calling him a scumbag.

You also have the fact that Kishimoto's interviews keep changing the facts every time he opens his mouth. Every single time. Hell, Junko, Naruto's own voice actress, even told him to shut up in person. This is how pathetic it is gotten.

I also like how the entire manga was about saving Sasuke, but when Sasuke is "saved" Naruto just stops giving a kitten. What about all the bonds Naruto had with other people? It goes even farther when you read the new novels coming out where Naruto insults Tsunade and call her a weak drunk. Something the original Naruto never did and in fact believed Tsunade was amazing.

All the bonds Naruto made? Severed.
All the morals Naruto learned? Pointless
All the friends he ever made? Forgotten.

Naruto was turned into the biggest scumbag in the history of manga....and it was all to suit a pairing choice. Meanwhile, many other characters were just so conveniently written out. Whatever happened to Team Taka? Whatever happened to Sasuke's bonds?

There are massive mistakes all over the board with this ending and movie.

Well, NaruHina fans...you said Naruto was not about romance...you;re right...it wasn't supposed to be. This is what happens when you do make it about pairings and make it into a kitten Shojo where apparently the only character that matters is Hinata. A sexist visualization of how women apparently should act in which they cannot independent. They cannot be strong. They cannot be without their "original love" otherwise they would "terrible women," but a man can do whatever the hell he wants and be praised for it.

Hey, I heard rumors that in the Burrito movie, Naruto is going to treat Hinata like kitten. I have to wonder if this is going to be true, how would you defend that? What kind of lies or excuses will people make to "justify" any of it?

I also wonder if Kishimoto one day comes back and says "NS should have been canon. I am going to redo the ending," I wonder how NH fans would not "respect the authors decision" as they say. I would really love to test this out. Just redo the ending with NS and see how many NH will "respect it."

Also, you say the movie is "really good." Is that why it has the lowest ratings out of all the Naruto movies and why many fans were upset because they wouldn't give them refunds?

That is not my Naruto. Naruto would not become such a person that he has in the movie or in the final chapter. My Naruto grows up to be a wonderful father who always has time for his kids. He is a great man who, while not always perfect, is still being the best person he can with that ever loving grin he always has. Not unlike this ending where Naruto doesn't smile anymore. I love how you never see Naruto and Hinata together in the end despite being so "totally in love and happy." Sasuke is not even there for Sakura and their kids look nothing like them. Burrito acts more like Sakura and Salad behaves more like Karin which leads me to believe that THAT is not their kids. Funny how they also have whiskers even though Kishimoto actually said that it can only be passed through the mother, but apparently none of his kids have a Byakugan which is a major Hyuga trait even for Half bloods. What a huge oversight. You can tell it was all rushed. Also, didn't Kishimoto say Naruto's sons named would be Shinachiku? I guess that changed at the last second too. So be it. That is NS's kid anyway.

There is so many other details from the big to small that just cannot be erased to "bad writing." If this movie was 2 years in production, why are there so many mistakes? Why do you need to retcon over half the kitten in the manga just to suit a paring choice? Why can't any of this stuff be in the manga at all?

Miyazaki said it best:
"Otakus have destroyed anime."

Otakus have destroyed Naruto and ruined what was once a great story...all for a stupid pairing couple based on a lie. A LIE. Hinata is NOT the most popular character in the series. In fact, she only ranks number 11. Sakura is higher on the list than her.

Like I have told every other person who "loves this ending to death:" You can have it. You can have the drunk, overworked, terrible father that Naruto has become who can't even spend time with his family. (Please, spare me the "Well, he is very busy like real fathers" excuse. No other father in this series was "too busy" for his kids. Hashirama, Tsunade, and Minato were never too busy for their kids and they lived in harsh times. Naruto is just miserable and I can tell it. He hates his life.) You can have the kitten writing, the bad plot devices, and the massive oversights. You can have the scumbags your characters have become....I rather keep the real Naruto alive.

NH and SS got together for the wrong reasons and everyone knows it. Hell, even the NH fans know it, but they just live in denial anyway. This is why they are so salty about us being mad with the ending.  Forgot one more thing: Space Ninjas. This movie jumped the shark and had Naruto fighting in space. Are you freaking kidding me? I cannot take this movie seriously with so many mistakes, art errors, massive plots holes, and ridiculous story elements. It is not good and a good part of the fandom agrees with me.
 

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[Nar123]

Which is highly unbelievable considering his actions back then.

 

I think you are confusing yourself AHK, back at the chunnin exam arc Sasuke wasnt acting on jealousy,wrath or hate, this happened after his meeting with Itachi

[LuckyChi7]

Who's that pink hair girl? Why all the sudden she seems better than Sakura? I can imagine many of them wants to shave Sakura's hair off for shaming the pink hair troops. I can't blame them. God damn it...

And thanks for the wish of luck, everyone.

 

That's Tamaki one of the supporting characters from Blazer Drive. Well being someone who has read all 34 chapters, her character gets the proper development since the manga is actually by Seishi Kishimoto. At the moment I rereading it to remember how important all the characters are from start to finish, kinda like O-Parts Hunter where the characters remained important from start to finish. Based on what I remember though I can tell you that she is a better character than Sakura.      

 

 

 

She looks like a NS daughter 

 

 

The thought didn't come to me when I first read it, but then after rereading it again I was like hold on. Honestly though I like the design it's unique, plus (no offense to anyone here) I find her character much better than Sakura's from start to finish.  

 

WOAH she really looks like Sakura! I guess this is where she ran off to after the way Kishi treated her

 

 

 

lol I wouldn't blame her if that was the intention, but I will say she is treated better from Seishi. Unlike how his brother Masashi treated Sakura in his manga.    

 

That pic looks like it is from an anime. Blazer Drive doesn't have an anime adaptation though, right?

 

 

Yup Blazer Drive doesn't have an anime, but Sega released a Nintendo DS game in japan for Blazer Drive which is why it looks like it's from an anime. I really wish there was a Blazer Drive anime though it would be really cool to see. 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 30 January 2015 - 03:57 PM.

[六道仙人]

I launch a new game along the lines of "Where's Waldo?". The new game is "Where is Himawari?" The one who will find out her first will win an interstellar travel through the future.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

I think you are confusing yourself AHK, back at the chunnin exam arc Sasuke wasnt acting on jealousy,wrath or hate, this happened after his meeting with Itachi

 

What I think AHK means, Nar, is that Sasuke was still a kitten to Naruto and Sakura at times in the Chunin Exams, and he did act selfishly when Sakura wanted him to drop out due to the Curse Mark, as well as his not wanting Naruto to know about it.