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#38101 FireFox

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:01 PM

The only thing I can tell you is....we won't find out unless we watch it. I am not sure of things...but we'll find out soon enough. Oh! And btw....we have to wait until the movie comes out...

I hate if all of this is resolved in the movie  its ridiculous  for the an ongoing manga of 15 years the plot to be resolved in a freaking movie  its like giving us the readers a giant middle finger sign.

 

I think it's overstating it to say Naruto is insecure.  Yes, he has understood that Sakura has loved Sasuke, and yes, that has hurt Naruto.  But hurt because of acceptance is not the same thing as insecurity.

 

Naruto didn't accept Sakura's confession because he didn't want her to deny her heart for his sake.  Again, that's not insecurity.  In fact, it's the opposite.  Naruto has the self-confidence to love Sakura enough to accept her feelings for someone else and put his own aside.  That's the farthest thing from insecurity.

 

Like I said recently, Naruto always believes he can win.  ALWAYS.  This includes believing he can win Sakura's heart.  Once he has brought Sasuke back and he's sure Sakura is free to make a real choice, he will make his play for her -- all the while believing he has a real chance of winning her affection.

 

Naruto's confidence and personal strength allowed him to NOT accept Sakura's confession on terms he felt were less than ideal.  That's not a problem for NS.  

 

Naruto will poor on the charm when he thinks the timing is right, and he will make his feelings known.

I was not talking about Naruto having insecurities about his love for Sakura  that's not the case .

 

The bolded : How would he know that he has won Sakura over  and that she's over Sasuke completely  if she doesn't show it to him ? Its true Naruto didn't accept Sakura bc he knew Sakura loved Sasuke  but its also bc Naruto wants for Sakura to love him only  , its bc he has witnessed Sakura wallowing for Sasuke time and a time again that he knew she wasn't being completely honest  so he needs to see that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke anymore and loves him instead also by action . Bringing Sasuke is also about him being worthy of her love , Sakura being able to choose doesn't negate that she's over Sasuke  again the Kage summit events proves this much  it needs to be shown in order to be believable and for Naruto to actually believe it or else the doubt will always be there .

 

He has to overcome his insecurities and let Sakura decide. That is what a man does. He confronts his feelings instead of suppressing them or joking around. Sakura has proved enough times that she cares for Naruto deeply. She proves it with her acts. If Naruto needs her notarized confession, then I'm really disappointed in the Naruto who chooses his fears instead of love.

 

Well, KnS has said it all. It's not about insecurities, but more about timing.

A men also needs proof  not just letting the girl decide  no man wants  being in a relationship while knowing that the girl has feelings for another men  , also Naruto has never joked about his feelings  when has that happened ? Besides Sakura knows how deep his feelings are she has acknowledge that its bc she knows she did the confession in the first place .  

 

It doesn't help when Naruto has missed a good portion of her love and deep care  for him while at the same time witnessing also her feelings for Sasuke  its not that simple as you making it out to be  Naruto is not gonna accept Sakura if he feels that she still loves Sasuke  that was pretty much the point of  Sakura's confession also  


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:11 PM

looks wrecked to me lol.
 


As I said, he allowed Madara to do that. The Yellow Flash is a humble man, and because of that, decided to step aside to allow his son to get the glory. This is manga fact. U_U

I tell ya though, the nerves are starting to go as we get closer to Wednesday...

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:14 PM

Do you think we've become overly confident? There's still a chance our hopes and dreams will be squashed :(

And this is why I think it's a good idea to take everything, even ourselves, with a grain of salt. Always best to admit that you could be wrong.

 

But fear not, even if NS doesn't happen (which I still think is unlikely), it was still a strongly supported theory--no matter what the other fandoms say. Thus, to me, it would still be reasonably shipable--I'd just have to adjust my headcanon of the end of the series in that one area is all.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:16 PM

As I said, he allowed Madara to do that. The Yellow Flash is a humble man, and because of that, decided to step aside to allow his son to get the glory. This is manga fact. U_U

I tell ya though, the nerves are starting to go as we get closer to Wednesday...

 

Just a random thought... The fact that Guy (in 7th gate) managed to pressure this same Madara would imply that he's faster and stronger than SM Minato, right? These two CQC exchanges gave a really nice tidbit of information regarding where those two stand. 


Edited by Atheck, 26 October 2014 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:18 PM

To be fair to Sasuke though, Danzō had it coming. He was deserving of a far more gruesome and humiliating death than he got. Still a crime, considering Danzō's position, but who is going to miss that old kitten?

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:19 PM

As I said, he allowed Madara to do that. The Yellow Flash is a humble man, and because of that, decided to step aside to allow his son to get the glory. This is manga fact. U_U

I tell ya though, the nerves are starting to go as we get closer to Wednesday...

xD alright man.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:20 PM

Question: how many of you think the movie is truly the end?

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:20 PM

To be fair to Sasuke though, Danzō had it coming. He was deserving of a far more gruesome and humiliating death than he got. Still a crime, considering Danzō's position, but who is going to miss that old kittener?

This. Danzou was very deserving of that death. However I won't forgive Sasuke for stabbing his ally Karin in the process.



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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:21 PM

A men also needs proof  not just letting the girl decide  no man wants  being in a relationship while knowing that the girl has feelings for another men  , also Naruto has never joked about his feelings  when has that happened ? Besides Sakura knows how deep his feelings are she has acknowledge that its bc she knows she did the confession in the first place .  

 

It doesn't help when Naruto has missed a good portion of her love and deep care  for him while at the same time witnessing also her feelings for Sasuke  its not that simple as you making it out to be  Naruto is not gonna accept Sakura if he feels that she still loves Sasuke  that was pretty much the point of  Sakura's confession also  

A man doesn't need proof if he is confident about his love and that he wants to spend his life with one particular woman. KnS already described how it is for Naruto (I hope so, because I don't like your version at all). Naruto can give Sakura a free choice after the war. But Sakura doesn't need to work for that. Naruto has already chosen her; he should just state it loudly and clearly. Sasuke-excuse isn't going to work for him in the future. It shouldn't be about Sasuke, it should be about him and Sakura. The woman who used to be in love with someone else or even harbours the residue of that love isn't some plague to avoid at all cost.      

 

Naruto never confirmed himself that he loves Sakura in a serious way in front of the girl.The girlfriend comment doesn't cut it. POAL too.


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:23 PM

 

Just a random thought... The fact that Guy (in 7th gate) managed to pressure this same Madara would imply that he's faster and stronger than SM Minato, right? These two CQC exchanges gave a really nice tidbit of information regarding where those two stand. 

Well, it's said that the 8th gates gives you more power than the 5 Kages, so...


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:24 PM

Question: how many of you think the movie is truly the end?

IDK. I'm confused. 


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:25 PM

Question: how many of you think the movie is truly the end?

I do for now. There's nothing else saying that there's Part 3 or other Naruto movies in the future.



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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:27 PM

Just a random thought... The fact that Guy (in 7th gate) managed to pressure this same Madara would imply that he's faster and stronger than SM Minato, right? These two CQC exchanges gave a really nice tidbit of information regarding where those two stand.


He only pressured Madara when he was in his 8th gate state, he never put Madara on the defensive with his 7th gate...

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:41 PM

Question: how many of you think the movie is truly the end?

80/100


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:49 PM

He only pressured Madara when he was in his 8th gate state, he never put Madara on the defensive with his 7th gate...

 
Guy wasn't able to land a blow, but he was pushing Madara back in CQC before unleashing the 8th gate. 
 
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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:52 PM

Yeah, me too. We're lucky this place exists.

 

When I joined this site four years ago it was even more relaxed and we didn't have so much panic attacks and kittens, lol.  :fu: But well I guess it's all due to the bashing our fandom gets and the fact that the story is almost over, so can't blame anyone.

 

Me too. *brofist* 

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Question: how many of you think the movie is truly the end?

0% that its not  , it was already said that this is only an introduction to this New Era Project  but what is this project a series of movies since having  P3 is out of the question .

 

A man doesn't need proof if he is confident about his love and that he wants to spend his life with one particular woman. KnS already described how it is for Naruto (I hope so, because I don't like your version at all). Naruto can give Sakura a free choice after the war. But Sakura doesn't need to work for that. Naruto has already chosen her; he should just state it loudly and clearly. Sasuke-excuse isn't going to work for him in the future. It shouldn't be about Sasuke, it should be about him and Sakura. The woman who used to be in love with someone else or even harbours the residue of that love isn't some plague to avoid at all cost.      

Again this has nothing to do with Naruto's confidence about his love for Sakura that was never the case  but whether Sakura really loves him  and him only I don't know how much simple I can make it to be .

 

You don't have to like my version though I don't know why is so bad for you  :confused: . I'm speaking realistically here again Naruto's feelings has always been firm  100% true and hasn't changed at all , but his believe in Sakura loving him over Sasuke hasn't and has been quite shakened  bc of all the events that he has seen  and its clearly that they have stick to him and for a good reason while at the same time missing almost all the time Sakura showing her deep care and love for him  this is why its complicated .

 

Naruto giving Sakura a free choice doesn't mean she has no feelings for Sasuke bc come on Sasuke had done enough kitten for anyone to want to be with him even if said person has feelings for him .  Again if  Naruto knew/felt that Sakura is completely over Sasuke  and not lying to herself then  he would have no problem accepting her confession , you can tell how happy he was when he heard Sakura saying she loves him he was overjoyed  but its bc he knew she had feelings for Sasuke bc of him witnessing first hand her actions toward Sasuke  , It wasn't fair toward him and it wasn't fair toward Sakura . For every time that Sakura has shown affection toward Naruto there was also a moment after that with Sakura having lingering feelings for Sasuke , this is what happened before Sakura's confession .  Naruto needs a  proof  that Sakura is true to her feelings and heart and that she really loves him now and is over Sasuke actions speaks louder then words its all I'm saying and why I'm hopping for an OVA scenario but you are free to disagree if you don't feel the same .


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 08:56 PM

Guy wasn't able to land a blow, but he was pushing Madara back in CQC before unleashing the 8th gate.  

7th gate Guy vs Madara


To be honest though, at that point Madara was just toying with everybody there. That's why he told Gai a little bit later "Only the 7th gate? You're gonna have to do better than that against me." (Or something along those lines, that was a paraphrase). Madara really never put on his game face until Naruto and Sasuke arrived, he didn't even take Gai seriously when he was in the 8th gate, and it almost cost him his life.

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 09:06 PM

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What's this? o_o I heard it has to do with The Last and NS as a whole.. it's probably old though, so sorry if it's already been posted before aha..


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Posted 26 October 2014 - 09:06 PM

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What's this? o_o I heard it has to do with The Last and NS as a whole.. it's probably old though, so sorry if it's already been posted before aha..


It's an old interview from what I know...

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Posted 26 October 2014 - 09:09 PM

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What's this? o_o it's probably old though, so sorry if it's already been posted before aha..

Its very very old  and I think Junko in here said about hopping that NS happens so yeah she ships NS  :pimp: .


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