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[James S Cassidy]

Rocky and Adrian were great in the first four movies and we're like Naruto and Sakura.
You can't do that with first blood maybe 2 and 4 but 1.
I see what you're going with the rocky thing but Apollo was already married in the first movie as evident by rocky 2.
That sounds like a bad elseworlds story from DC with that superman example and somehow that seems like it would have happened.

Wouldn't have stopped Kishimoto.

[Gravenimage]

Analyzer sorry to say this but everything you have said is nothing but BS. Your speaking like the Pro-enders. I suggest you read the Naruto manga again from the first chapter. 

[VanitasDS76491]

Wouldn't have stopped Kishimoto.

True he do anything to sabotage his story, look it the infinite dream thing so many holes and questions that don't add up.

[Yyubie]

[Legend054]

I don't mind being the lone voice, or one of the few NS shippers that thinks the end wasn't all bad, or will defend why I think the Manga is about a low 8 out of ten despite my initial emotions towards it's end.

 

I think it's better to look at things objectively rather than jump onto wild bandwagon theories, and I'll stick with that stance, even if it's alone. I would count the screenwriter not reading the source material as a misinterpretation of the interview in question. I would call the theories about more profit wild bandwagon theories. These are dangerous, and I believe we should be better thinkers then this.

 

I think it's important for people not to be afraid to voice their thoughts though, regardless of what others think, so long as they do so professionally.

 

Respect

[TheFirstEvil100]

Wouldn't have stopped Kishimoto.

lol yeah Kishi is a stupid dumb ass that has no spine its why I love toriyama when his editors told him what they wanted he said no mainly of big things like keeping Goku as a kid or having Bulma and Yamcha getting married he gave no kittens at all. I know this is the same with many other manga writers as well they did what THEY wanted and WHO THEY wanted to get married to not the fans or the editors.

 

I mean hell toriyama has daid he hates sweet girls aka Girls like Hinata he likes tomboy girls like Bulma, Videl Chi-chi and so on, and as Masakox said if someone got a lot of love say like Hinata he would have killed them off for good.

 

I mean the reason why Kojima made Soild snake and old man that could not have kids was so no one could kitten what he made up later on he ended Metal gear how he wanted it to end not the fans.

 

Again this simple shows that Kishi is a gutless man who just bows to what the hinata fandom wants and kisses Sasuke and the Uchiha's ass as well oh and lies to us saying he planned this. I mean its like you said James on another post if this was planned if NH was the end game right from chapter 1 then why the hell was Hinata on the same team as Naruto then to build up NH?

 

Cause as again man like you said NH was not planned from the start and it was all retconed to fit that stupid kitten Hinata and what she wanted in the end, sorry I just hate Hinata so much right now James just so damn much.

 

Analyzer sorry to say this but everything you have said is nothing but BS. Your speaking like the Pro-enders. I suggest you read the Naruto manga again from the first chapter. 

Its why I think that Analyzer is really a NH fan trying to make us all like NH after all looking at the ratings for the new Boruto anime its bad guys, I mean DB super and One Piece are both higher ratings and keep getting first place in the ratings at least that what MasakoX says.

 

The point is man I do think that Analyzer is a NH fan and not really a NaruSaku fan, he can say that he is but when I look at the manga I see that Naruto loves Sakura not Hinata like all of us know it to be so, all true NS fans know the ending and NH is bull kitten and failed in build up, big time.

 

Hell what is Analyzer going to say next that Sasuke deeply loves Sakura and everything he did in all of Naruto was just to keep Sakura safe, yeah right that is even bigger BS man.

 

So yeah sorry Analyzer if your reading this but your an NH fan everyone on this site knows the ending failed that Naruto loved Sakura and not Hinata hell my friend on fanfiction Lily Nadesico knows the ending is bull kitten and she feels sick and so disgusted as a woman that the reason why Sakura never left Sasuke was cause it would make her a bad woman, and yes that is what Kishi said on Sakura in an interviewe, so that makes Kishi a sexist pig.

[Honestly]

Honestly Naruto ending is laughable and in every interview Kishi do he makes Hinata and Sakura look like a damn ass joke I starting to think Kishi hate Naruto right now he does everything to sabotage and make the characters look like liers are plain ass crazy

[Honestly]

But he is sabotage is work we as readers wanted to see naruto become hokage yet Kishi have konahamaru become hokage for Naruto WTH was up with that and don't give me some excuse that is daughter knock is ass out was the problem because it wasn't funny it's was his big day yet Kishi make it a joke

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, maybe if it was like something that isn't major, I wouldn't mind. Then again, maybe saving Sasuke is the real major point and not a dream. I can't wait for One Piece to be a major disappointment and a joke alas ignored.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's more of a missed opportunity for sending it home as in making it feel accomplished. I know we supposed to feel it with just watching him as a active role, but that moment could have make it rewarding. It is what it is.

[Honestly]

I can't believe you don't see a problem with that I am not talking about the people of konoha I am talking about us readers who wanted to see naruto become hokage which again he did not from chapter one Naruto continue saying he's going to be hokage yet Kishi make him miss his own inauguration for some joke ok then

Edited by Honestly, 11 July 2017 - 04:49 PM.

[Charger76]

Naruto did become the hokage. He did accomplish that dream. The argument can be made for how good of one he is. He doesn't seem too happy but then again he isn't the same cheery teen anymore.

The ending was not great. I respect NH greatly more than SS. NH did need some more screen time because it barely got any in the grand scheme of things despite the big moments it had. Hinata needed to be more of a factor because no matter what she was never a heroine in the story and didn't have half the time she needed to be one. Naruto did get with a side character. NS did make more sense and I thought would lead to a better, more interesting and smoother story then what happened but it didn't. It ultimately was his choice in the end no matter if he had influences or not. I just hated he left NS out to dry without how it fell apart in the story and better closure but you guys have already talked about that in other posts.

The war arc was too long overall but the ending was too quick and got weird there so I agree with both there. End pairings could have and should have been handled better but we can't say they were out of left field as much as we hate them. We still worried about it at the end proving that we had a thought in mind that it might have happened. No doubt I think NS should have happened, SK should have happened with them traveling together anyway, and hinata wanting naruto to be happy and moving on to lead the hyugas and marry Kiba. I do not hate hinata but her development did stall with only thoughts being naruto in the middle of shippuden when there could have been so much more from her!!!!

I just still find it funny how no shipping can truly be happy because NS didn't get what we wanted, And the NH and SS families are questionable right now with fathers not really there for them. I also find it funny how sarada and boruto like each other's fathers more than their own despite similar issues. Gaiden didn't help kitten with the SS relationship. I'm waiting to see sakuras expression in the anime from the "bc we have you" line to see if it is more of a smile or if she is actually thinking something different. I don't expect anything from it but if they meant well on that they could have had a more confident and open reaction. Although I garuntee there will be a subplot where they all become some big happy families. I mean sarada already respected her dad from the head poke. And boruto just wants his dads attention. The wife issue is still there because We've seen very little NH and SS interactions with the spouses.

I don't find the boruto series that bad. I don't like it nearly as much as naruto but it is still very early in the series. As it gets darker and more mature I'll enjoy it more like already previously stated. I don't have the interactions that I loved from the first series (team 7 interactions, NS moments/funny moments specifically) so that does put me off a bit. I think with the monthly releases and already seeing into the future in the first episode that they already know how long they want boruto to be and how the story will go. I won't read or watch right after release but I'll keep up with it on here and go back to it.

[Honestly]

Lol we did not see him become hokage we only see him as hokage but you know what I am going to leave it at that because I still have a problem with that.ok back to NH you know I could have accepted NH but THE LAST kinda just destroy that for me I dont know what SP really was thinking saying Naruto didn't have any real feeling for Sakura.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Boruto is early but I don't know. It's taking too long to be remotely interesting. I mean I have seen come back, but that's only because the beginning is good. Right now, I find myself being a bit bored with it. Some parts are neat, but it's not overall neat (if that makes sense). I am talking about anime. Manga, I don't know. It's not like other series where it is monthly, but they use a good amount of spaces and when it's not much content, the art can help out a lot. Boruto seems sluggish and the art doesn't help whatsoever.

[Illnevergiveup3]

in my opinion Naruto NEVER became the Hokage. It hurt me to see that Naruto has been fighting so hard to become the Hokage just to be knocked out before his own inauguration. He didn't even attend the part where he BECOMES the Hokage. Konohamaru did.

[Honestly]

@Illnevergiveup3 that exactly what I am saying it like he did not accomplish anything his big moment was pass off has a joke for what Kishi don't even respect naruto goal

[Charger76]

I get it. I can see where that can leave a poor taste in your mouth. It was supposed to be a huge moment and should be a more serious dramatic moment rather than a funnier one, where his whole first two parts lead to that moment. I'm just trying to get past other moments I felt like they should have done better. Our issues started way before that scene so I guess I'm still trying to figure those out.

Also I do agree Boruto is a little too slow progressing for a monthly manga as of now. They need a little more pace to it. If it was weekly they can do these slower progressions but it isn't that. So that makes sense. That's probably why I won't be getting into it that much. If it wasn't a naruto spin off I most likely wouldn't watch it at all. Not because it is an awful show but because it wouldn't be interesting or paced enough for me to continue over other shows.

Edited by Charger76, 11 July 2017 - 08:39 PM.

[BlueStarSaber]

Well, on the things about the families, the series would be utterly boring if there was no tension, no issues. This is chronic tension, I.E., Bolt's issues with his dad. They're actually relatable. When I was younger, my dad missed Three Christmas's in a row due to the Military sending him off to the Middle East for three months at the end of each year, for three consecutive years. When he wasn't being called away, there were sometimes long shift, sometimes at night, to the point he was almost always asleep when I got home. He did what he could, but service was too demanding for him to be there all the time.

 

It's not an easy situation for a spouse or child, and Bolt is one of those that takes it harder (His sister and his mother seem to deal with it better).

 

Sasuke's family is more complicated. You can defend why he is gone, but ultimately, he isn't the best father, but that makes him in a way, sadly human, tragic even, as he still serves what may be a life-long road of redemption. SS is complicated in that regard. You either love it or hate it, and I was never fond of those sort of pairings myself.

 

The other three ships that came from the end seem fine, though Temari needs to calm down with that physical punishment, ha.

First sorry to hear that your dad was absent for three Christmas.

Second of Naruto has no excuse for why he doesn't have time for his son, given that he has a justu that can make thousands of copies of himself. Which they can do all the work he is supposed to do while he can go send time with his children, instead of sending his shadow clone to his daughter's own Birthday. The problem with this "family Tension" is that it's forced as Naruto is not far away from the village in fact he can be anywhere, but there is no reasonable explanation on why he can't hang out with his son in person other than that his dislikes spending time with him.

Then Sasuke should never have kids if away from the village all the time and acts like a wonderer. 

[BlueStarSaber]

We see him try sometimes, sending one of his clones to Himawari's birthday even.

 

Still, that's got to be tiring all the time, it would be inappropriate if his real self wasn't at work, and it's not the same to spend time with your family as a clone. Naruto could try harder, but notably, Naruto is very strained.

Thats the problem he sends a clone instead of coming by himself not even to drop by for a few minutes; that's not trying as he doesn't want to see his kids, heck even the clone just falls a sleep doing nothing.

He doesn't have to do it all the time, just enough so that he show his children that he gives a dang. Why do you think people fans and ex fans have an issue with this ending and how Naruto is acting as a father, he all the reasons and means to spend time with his children but all his excuses of why he doesn't are poor and can be easily counted.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Thats the problem he sends a clone instead of coming by himself not even to drop by for a few minutes; that's not trying as he doesn't want to see his kids, heck even the clone just falls a sleep doing nothing.

He doesn't have to do it all the time, just enough so that he show his children that he gives a dang. Why do you think people fans and ex fans have an issue with this ending and how Naruto is acting as a father, he all the reasons and means to spend time with his children but all his excuses of why he doesn't are poor and can be easily counted.

I agree with you man I mean people may call Goku and bad father but when we look at Super which has been shown the familes we can see how good the familes really are.

 

I mean look at Vegeta, he went from a cold blooded killer to a man who wants to stick by his wife so he can make sure not only is Bulma safe but so he can be there for the birth of Bra hell just look at how protective he was of her, Would Sasuke do that no and people have the BS to say that Sasuke is better than Vegeta.

 

Gohan he turned down a job so he can stay close to Pan and Videl, hell look at when we first saw baby Pan is was playing with her, true he was throwing her in, but Pan didn't give a kitten she was laughing.

 

Krillin enough said we have seen how his family life is like as well with him 18 and Marron, Krillin may now be a police officer but damn he still has time to spend with his kid.

 

This is why both Naruto and Sasuke are the worst fathers of all time in my eyes.