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[DattebayoXShannaro]

Because I've grown tired of having Obito in the presence of Naruto as if he didn't do anything wrong. It's one of the many things I can't stand about Naruto. He's too quick to easily forgive people and/or pretends it never happened. Can't wait for Obito to die so I won't have to stomach this crap anymore. But it'll just be replaced by innocent Sasuke.

 

I don't know how Naruto being nice towards him is erasing what Obito did.  However, Obito is doing what he can to help clean up the mess he created.  That's one of the reason Kishimoto has kept him alive this long.  Also, it's not like he had no consequences.  Even though Naruto helped him recover, Obito's lifespan may be drastically shortened, and doesn't have that long to live, maybe months, a year at best.  He never got his wish of seeing Rin again, and has to live with that he did things he knew she wouldn't condone.  Even if Naruto has forgiven him, the world will be less forgiving.  Obito will forever be regarded as an S class criminal, who helped nearly destroy the world.  Only a few people will see him differently.  It's kind of sad when you think about it.

 

Well, we know Naruto and Sakura would do the job but don't know if it will use all of it. We just know that they are needed. It all depends on how Obito works it.

 

Obito said it will barely be enough even with both of them.  Even if they have chakra left, the amount will be negligible, especially from Sakura, if we expect Naruto's clone to last after the jump as well.

 

well .we all want kakashi to get his sharingans  back .but maybe kishi want kakashi to be normal which its not cool . i think that obito will tell him that i ll watch the peaceful world through you . or something like that. . but does that mean that kakashi will lose his eyes once again? yeah     poor guy .

 

Is Sharingan-less Kakashi really that hard to accept?  That fans want him to lose an eye again?

 

Why I got a funny feeling that Kakashi will lose his eyes before Obito's death...

 

Right now, there's not much he can do to even have an opportunity to lose an eye.  Again, is Sharingan-less Kakashi that hard to accept?  I mean in hindsight Kishimoto must have planned for a while that both Kakashi and Obito have their respective eyes back.  I don't see that changing really.

 

I don't want Obito to die. I love him 

 

I don't think Obito will die right away, just that his lifespan has been drastically cut, so he'll live a shorter life than most. 

 

Also, seriously, I love that avatar!  Did you make it?

Edited by DattebayoXShannaro, 03 July 2014 - 06:18 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I thought the same about Kakashi. Oddly enough, a lot of characters in here, mainly Team 7, are changing in looks wise. Don't know Sakura will keep her hair but we'll see, she has a seal now, Naruto has sun/moon in his palm, Sasuke has rinnengan which could be permanent display and moon in his palm, and Kakashi has both of his eyes as well a scar on his chest by Obito. Interesting. Though all can be erased. Lol.

What I want to know how this plan going to work and how is it going down. It can be either simple as you see in that explanation panel, or something else may occur that they have to improvise. Also, is it just Obito going or what? Not to mention, what about the Hokages? The setup is coming close.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't know how Naruto being nice towards him is erasing what Obito did.  However, Obito is doing what he can to help clean up the mess he created.  That's one of the reason Kishimoto has kept him alive this long.  Also, it's not like he had no consequences.  Even though Naruto helped him recover, Obito's lifespan may be drastically shortened, and doesn't have that long to live, maybe months, a year at best.  He never got his wish of seeing Rin again, and has to live with that he did things he knew she wouldn't condone.  Even if Naruto has forgiven him, the world will be less forgiving.  Obito will forever be regarded as an S class criminal, who helped nearly destroy the world.  Only a few people will see him differently.  It's kind of sad when you think about it.

The issue is the solely reason that Naruto's decision will pass unchalenged by the fact Obito died.
Naruto decided to forgive Obito easily like it wasnt his fault but what about the countless amounts of shinobis who died fighting on this war because Obito could not have sex with Rin because she wanted Kakashi?
People there would not be forgiving as Naruto is and he would have to face a tough decision.
 
And that in some way mirrors to Sasuke, he have never crossed the line but the shinobis would forgive him because Sasuke ws never on the opponent side of this war he actually greatly helped them and played a vastly crucial role war to a point that they would have failed without him.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 03 July 2014 - 06:41 PM.

[Gojira]

So is there an afterlife in the Narutoverse or not?

 

Kakashi went to some campfire when he died, but others like Haku and Zabuza were under the impression that they were in the afterlife when they were brought back as zombies.

[luffyq1]

 

I don't know how Naruto being nice towards him is erasing what Obito did.  However, Obito is doing what he can to help clean up the mess he created.  That's one of the reason Kishimoto has kept him alive this long.  Also, it's not like he had no consequences.  Even though Naruto helped him recover, Obito's lifespan may be drastically shortened, and doesn't have that long to live, maybe months, a year at best.  He never got his wish of seeing Rin again, and has to live with that he did things he knew she wouldn't condone.  Even if Naruto has forgiven him, the world will be less forgiving.  Obito will forever be regarded as an S class criminal, who helped nearly destroy the world.  Only a few people will see him differently.  It's kind of sad when you think about it.

The mess he's trying to clean up is actually getting worse. How did Madara get his second eye? From Obito, which made Madara even more powerful to make way for Kaguya. What consequence are you talking about? Please don't tell me you're referring to his inevitable death, because that is more of a cop out than an actual consequence. He won't have to live with the infamous labeling. So he didn't get his wish fulfilled of being with Rin? Cry me a river. Poor justification to destroy hundreds of people's lives.

 

I don't feel sad for Obito because of a couple of reasons: 

 

1. Had tryouts for Akatsuki members, which goes around the world killing people.

 

2. Killed Naruto's mom and dad, which resulted in a ruined childhood for Naruto.

 

3. Tried to blow up Naruto just mere seconds after he was born.

 

4. Unleashed the Kyuubi, which killed Iruka's parents.

 

5. Killed Neji right in front of him just to teach Naruto a lesson.

 

I'm sure there is a lot more but that's what comes to my mind.

 

And about a couple of chapters later you feel sad for him? I'm surprised after all of this Naruto quickly forgave this scumbag.

Edited by luffyq1, 03 July 2014 - 06:56 PM.

[Gojira]

How did Obito get his other eye back?

 

Was BZ nice enough to put it back in for him when he was unconscious? 

[narusaku256]

How did Obito get his other eye back?
 
Was BZ nice enough to put it back in for him when he was unconscious? 

Why fear when we have Naruto here!

[TouKen4Life3g]

How did Obito get his other eye back?
 
Was BZ nice enough to put it back in for him when he was unconscious? 

Well BZ did melt away, so I guess he left it there. Besides, Naruto is there, so one way or another, Obito will have both eyes.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

THE DAMN CAKE IS A LIE!

[Nate River]

I don't know how Naruto being nice towards him is erasing what Obito did.  However, Obito is doing what he can to help clean up the mess he created.  That's one of the reason Kishimoto has kept him alive this long.  Also, it's not like he had no consequences.  Even though Naruto helped him recover, Obito's lifespan may be drastically shortened, and doesn't have that long to live, maybe months, a year at best.  He never got his wish of seeing Rin again, and has to live with that he did things he knew she wouldn't condone.  Even if Naruto has forgiven him, the world will be less forgiving.  Obito will forever be regarded as an S class criminal, who helped nearly destroy the world.  Only a few people will see him differently.  It's kind of sad when you think about it.

Sad. No, not really. I find such sympathy appalling because nothing justifies him ruining countless lives because of his personal tragedies. His childhood sucked, but he jettisoned his sympathy when he sought to imprison the entire populace and stomped on those that stood in his way. He wanted to take their lives away so he could see his love interest (really a cheap imitation) while telling them it was for their benefit. People like Obito are why I hate having others decide what in my best interest.

He never got to see Rin again? Good. What's happening to the Shinobi world is how he wanted to obtain it. It's impossible to lament of his failure to do so.

He'll have to live with things he did. I'm trying to imagine anyone being satisfied with someone like Gary Ridgeway or Ted Bundy getting to walk around free because they realized murdering people was a bad idea and that they'd have to live with all the hate and dead bodies? Who would be satisfied with this? It would be seen as a travesty of justice. Who care if their life might shorter. That wasn't bestowed as a punishment for his crimes. It happened because he failed.
 
The other ninja wanted him to die and when Naruto put the breaks on that they magically vanished. The world will hate him? The world dance naked from the waste down with a lampshade over their face if Naruto told them too at this point.

The world should hate him. The world should be furious with Naruto. Naruto wasn't the only one his wronged, but Naruto's made the decision for all of them, but he will never have to face it because Obito will be dead.  

I don't think Obito will die right away, just that his lifespan has been drastically cut, so he'll live a shorter life than most.

Life is so much easier (for the author and his story) if Obito bites it. He doesn't survive this battle. At best he dies in the immediate aftermath.

[FireFox]

The issue is the solely reason that Naruto's decision will pass unchalenged by the fact Obito died.
Naruto decided to forgive Obito easily like it wasnt his fault but what about the countless amounts of shinobis who died fighting on this war because Obito could not have sex with Rin because she wanted Kakashi?
People there would not be forgiving as Naruto is and he would have to face a tough decision.
 
And that in some way mirrors to Sasuke, he have never crossed the line but the shinobis would forgive him because Sasuke ws never on the opponent side of this war he actually greatly helped them and played a vastly crucial role war to a point that they would have failed without him.

Sasuke crossed the line when he joined Akatsuki an terrorist organization , trespass into Kumogakure  attacked their Jinchu trying to capture him and left with a piece of it also killed a member of their village in the process , then trespass into a private "Kage" meeting attack the Kages which one lost an arm in the process , then kill the Hokage ,

 

AND TO TOP IT ALL OF  WHAT MOST PEOPLE SEEMS TO FORGET IN HERE AND EVADE IT WHEN IT COMES TO SASUKE :

 

He provided Obito with a piece of the eight tails which was put in the Gedo Mazo which chakra was used to create more Zetsus that killed countless of shinobi  which later that piece was used to bring the ten tails that killed Neji and countless of shinobi again .

 

Sasuke in here is responsible as much as the rest members of  Akatsuki and Obito How in Hell is all of this NOT CROSSING THE LINE ? 

 

His redemption is kittening forced and the only way for him to even redeem himself a little is pulling a Nagato or sacrificing himself for Naruto him "helping" save the world so he can stay alive doesn't even cut it  one "good" deed doesn't erase a few bad ones , and he was against their side before the war or actually at the half of this war that counts to do not do not discard this as nothing .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 July 2014 - 08:42 PM.

[luffyq1]

Sad. No, not really. I find such sympathy appalling because nothing justifies him ruining countless lives because of his personal tragedies. His childhood sucked, but he jettisoned his sympathy when he sought to imprison the entire populace and stomped on those that stood in his way. He wanted to take their lives away so he could see his love interest (really a cheap imitation) while telling them it was for their benefit. People like Obito are why I hate having others decide what in my best interest.

He never got to see Rin again? Good. What's happening to the Shinobi world is how he wanted to obtain it. It's impossible to lament of his failure to do so.

He'll have to live with things he did. I'm trying to imagine anyone being satisfied with someone like Gary Ridgeway or Ted Bundy getting to walk around free because they realized murdering people was a bad idea and that they'd have to live with all the hate and dead bodies? Who would be satisfied with this? It would be seen as a travesty of justice. Who care if their life might shorter. That wasn't bestowed as a punishment for his crimes. It happened because he failed.
 
The other ninja wanted him to die and when Naruto put the breaks on that they magically vanished. The world will hate him? The world dance naked from the waste down with a lampshade over their face if Naruto told them too at this point.

The world should hate him. The world should be furious with Naruto. Naruto wasn't the only one his wronged, but Naruto's made the decision for all of them, but he will never have to face it because Obito will be dead.  


Life is so much easier (for the author and his story) if Obito bites it. He doesn't survive this battle. At best he dies in the immediate aftermath.

You wanna know what would be the icing on the cake? If he gets to meet Rin in the afterlife. Everybody wins :)

[only Naruto]

The issue is the solely reason that Naruto's decision will pass unchalenged by the fact Obito died.
Naruto decided to forgive Obito easily like it wasnt his fault but what about the countless amounts of shinobis who died fighting on this war because Obito could not have sex with Rin because she wanted Kakashi?
People there would not be forgiving as Naruto is and he would have to face a tough decision.
 
And that in some way mirrors to Sasuke, he have never crossed the line but the shinobis would forgive him because Sasuke ws never on the opponent side of this war he actually greatly helped them and played a vastly crucial role war to a point that they would have failed without him.

when people try to justify something for the person they like they make everything . and when they try to bash they bring up everything to bash .  ..so darkest are u trying to say that sasuke is a hero now . even if its look like . he is to the shinobies. but i mean it sound that u want it so bad . the hero that dont care about saving his friends is a fake hero . we all know sasuke is doing this for his own sake   .just maybe so he can fight naruto or some chidish wish . . and no obito is better than sasuke . at least now he is saving them because he really care . he is saving your sasuke that tried to kill obito . now that is a hero . and about the shinobies . they trust naruto and they saw naruto lost his friend and forgave obito since he saved them they trust naruto the child of the prophecy to do the things right/ i mean the kages and hashirama are ok and understand what naruto is doing the shinobies should just be ok with it . and obito loved rin .as u know love is not only sex .  ..

[ioria]

Anyway.. Obito got his eye back but he can't perform Rinne Tensei, right?

(I'm struggling with a fever, forgive my silly questions, but brain is gone)

[FireFox]

when people try to justify something for the person they like they make everything . and when they try to bash they bring up everything to bash .  ..so darkest are u trying to say that sasuke is a hero now . even if its look like . he is to the shinobies. but i mean it sound that u want it so bad . the hero that dont care about saving his friends is a fake hero . we all know sasuke is doing this for his own sake   .just maybe so he can fight naruto or some chidish wish . . and no obito is better than sasuke . at least now he is saving them because he really care . he is saving your sasuke that tried to kill obito . now that is a hero . and about the shinobies . they trust naruto and they saw naruto lost his friend and forgave obito since he saved them they trust naruto the child of the prophecy to do the things right/ i mean the kages and hashirama are ok and understand what naruto is doing the shinobies should just be ok with it . and obito loved rin .as u know love is not only sex .  ..

I agree with some of it especially with Dark's urge to make a "Hero" out of Sasuke Lol Please .  Obito is better then Sasuke because he wants that redemption and he's willing to work for that now Die for it  but that still doesn't cut what Obito Did there is no way out of this the least that he can gets if he survives is life sentence jail time the worst the Electric Chair the only real redemption is if Obito also pulls a Nagato but that ain't happening .

 

Still kittening hate Obito for what he did to MK and baby Naruto no excuse for that .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 03 July 2014 - 08:53 PM.

[only Naruto]

sasuke and kaguya(black zetsu) are the worst 2 villans in naruto  i mean madara  obito nagato they all wanted peace from their heart . and they are not like sauke who just do what he want for him self . . i dare to say that obito when he was villain is better than sasuke now .why .cause obito thought he will make a better world that why he fight  . but sasuke . now is hero in the eye of the shinobi .and his die hard fans . because he pretend to be a hero while we know that he is worse than trash  .cause he left his friends to die . and he want to kill naruto later and creat  a world for his sake .yes till now that what we can read from sasuke till 683 . . 

[Nate River]

Sasuke crossed the line when he joined Akatsuki an terrorist organization , trespass into Kumogakure  attacked their Jinchu trying to capture him and left with a piece of it also killed a member of their village in the process , then trespass into a private "Kage" meeting attack the Kages which one lost an arm in the process , then kill the Hokage ,
 
AND TO TOP IT ALL OF  WHAT MOST PEOPLE SEEMS TO FORGET IN HERE AND EVADE IT WHEN IT COMES TO SASUKE :
 
He provided Obito with a piece of the eight tails which was put in the Gedo Mazo which chakra was used to create more Zetsus that killed countless of shinobi  which later that piece was used to bring the ten tails that killed Neji and countless of shinobi again .
 
Sasuke in here is responsible as much as the rest members of  Akatsuki and Obito How in Hell is all of this NOT CROSSING THE LINE ? 
 
His redemption is kittening forced and the only way for him to even redeem himself a little is pulling a Nagato or sacrificing himself for Naruto him "helping" save the world so he can stay alive doesn't even cut it  one "good" deed doesn't erase a few bad ones , and he was against their side before the war or actually at the half of this war that counts to do not do not discard this as nothing .

I would disagree that Sasuke is even in the same universe as Obito when it comes to horrible atrocities. He'd be closer to Akatsuki if they didn't have their own personal atrocities apart from this, but in terms of the current set of events it's a far better comparison and none of them knew this was what they were working toward. Even it's "leader" Pain didn't know.

For example, Sasuke was a part that eventually led to the death of Neji. Obito actually killed him. Not the same. However, it's almost an unfair comparison because Obito is such an unbelievable piece of crap that he shouldn't be seen as the standard for determining when someone has cross the line. Obito is light years past it.

That said, I agree it's forced and it blows that it's obvious Sasuke will escape responsibility for his actions. He doesn't have clean hands and that everyone is much worse shouldn't mean he escapes it (but we all know he will).

[only Naruto]

I agree with some of it especially with Dark's urge to make a "Hero" out of Sasuke Lol Please .  Obito is better then Sasuke because he wants that redemption and he's willing to work for that now Die for it  but that still doesn't cut what Obito Did there is no way out of this the least that he can gets if he survives is life sentence jail time the worst the Electric Chair the only real redemption is if Obito also pulls a Nagato but that ain't happening .

 

Still kittening hate Obito for what he did to MK and baby Naruto no excuse for that .

yeah agree . and sasuke has to fight to save himself .we all know that .he didnt care for kakashi and sakura to die .and u tell me that he care for the world . hahaha   nice one sasuke fans .. its really amazing the double standards in some people . simply amazing .

 

as for obito he now really wants to sacrfice himself for his friends and the world .and going to save sasuke . the hero that tried to kill obito . sasuke is the worst trash i just realized this now . really . thank u guys for making me to see the whole truth . 

[Nate River]

Obito is better then Sasuke because he wants that redemption and he's willing to work for that now Die for it but that still doesn't cut what Obito Did there is no way out of this the least that he can gets if he survives is life sentence jail time the worst the Electric Chair the only real redemption is if Obito also pulls a Nagato but that ain't happening .

I don't know why Obito should get credit for this. Does anyone honestly think this fandom will flip on Sasuke if he suddenly sees the error of his way?


God, I hope Obito doesn't pull a Nagato, but I still have this nagging feeling someone (Kaguya/Madara/Obito) is going to.

[only Naruto]

I don't know why Obito should get credit for this. Does anyone honestly think this fandom will flip on Sasuke if he suddenly sees the error of his way?


God, I hope Obito doesn't pull a Nagato, but I still have this nagging feeling someone (Kaguya/Madara/Obito) is going to.

when sasuke does that then we will talk if he is a hero or better than obito . as for now he is the worst cause what is inside of him .