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[Inferno180]

I feel like this is 469 but in reverse for the SS fans, many initially thought ns died but then well it turns out it wasn't dead.

Yet now I just wonder why some SS fans aren't taking this with a sign of well, story progression.

I mean there's still the question of, what does this purpose of love even serve on sasukes end for that matter? This doesn't patch up the years if missed development and people still just assume that it will suddenly just come. The other is, just how can people say she still just loves him no issues? Saying that "her love for him has matured" well how has it matured if the feeling is obviously different from what it once was?

I mean do we seriously sound foolish in believing that sakura is slowly turning away from Sasuke? When there's this entire simple notion of unfulfilled plot points the story has not even covered since 2005 or so? How then all the junk Sasuke pulls, sakura just loving him after all this junk, it doesn't do the story justice nor involve character progress because it's like this: if sakura loved Sasuke from the start then kakashis statement if a different feeling would have not even been needed. Some claim she has matured in her love and now "really loves Sasuke" that's not an answer that's just a statement still inferring she loves him for the simplest of reasons we have known for years and doesn't even offer any profession, it's still just inferring static development, not change in the prior statement of it being a different feeling.

Just how much if a mess is this concept of character development? Did people quickly dismiss that sakura also doesn't trust him? If everything were fine and dandy she wouldn't have joined in on kakashis statement of sasukes real goal. I mean like 469 before does this seem too convinent for SS and I mean too convinent? Some people even went on saying Sasuke was apologizing here or looked remorseful, I'm sorry we had no idea what they were talking about and since when is Sasuke remorseful of anything especially since he still has a prioirty goal over his old teammates?

This deal will blow over but the whole mistrust factor is still there and seriously if people still go on thinking she will never change,nits going to be a big shocker when she acts mistrustful again to those who just go with the words. I mean just how much of a counter arguement does this need beside the aspect of character development? Lack of development for SS, and existence of other elements saying nay to SS (the mistrust and other motives) while these still haven't impacted other ns hinting events like the sakura Kushina parallel and 663 for the support on hokage?

Sakura already loved Sasuke so if it's changed as Kakashi said, it can only go one place, not love.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
I don't know if this is aimed at me, but I didn't say it was ambiguous, only that depending on your perspective, it leaves room for interpretation. NaruSaku fans seem pretty unanimous in their belief that Kakashi's comments are negative for SS, but I imagine SasuSaku fans will see it quite differently. Interpretation, not ambiguity.

Oddly enough, the favor is in what we have said in general. It got to the point that NF has to shut down a discussion section. Then, when it opened again, they warned no pairing talk, or suffer the ban. In short, the favorite decision is what we said and honestly, whether you know or not, that's really the only direction. Note: this is not just you, if you don't feel this way. But if you do, I won't blame you but I think the days of hardship is almost over. It's a weird feeling because you're used to one feeling, then shifting to the next, it's going to take a while to transited.

As of now, this is among the worst thing that can happen. SS fans seem to attacking tumblr and cross tagging. It's going to rough for a while, but again, hard to suspend the reality.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 07 May 2014 - 06:10 PM.

[Otaru]

Oh yes and just for the record, because it's tiring me down... Sakura could never create a new eye for Kakashi, so Naruto did not steal her role at all... since it wasn't her role to begin with...

She's a medic, but she can't just create a new eye from a man's cells/DNA.

What Naruto did is something else, and this is not erasing Sakura's job...

IMO it's even a way for them to work together...

Edited by Otaru, 07 May 2014 - 06:12 PM.

[Fenris]

Those feelings Sakura has for Sasuke is implied that it's no longer love; but just any *feeling* at all. Frankly, I'd be surprised I'd have *ANY* emotions whatsoever for somebody who tried to kill me and threatened to kill my whole village. That's, I think, what it was implying.

[Luna]

I still think it's safe to say that Sakura's intelligence is still superior to Naruto's. I mean he didn't even know what he did to kakashi. Regardless of his jesus like abilities Sakura still trumps him because if he was the better medic he would have healed GUY completely, no?

I don't even think his abilities are that of a medic. It's probably something different. Anyways, maybe I'm being delusional.

Edited by Baka chan, 07 May 2014 - 06:20 PM.

[Nate River]

Sakura could never create a new eye for Kakashi

That's the entire problem. His abilities so overshadow her's that it makes her's seems unnecessary.

[BakeNeko-Chan]

And yes you are right but their interpretation doesn't make any sense .

 

Looking at the big picture, no it doesn't make sense. Sakura's development has progressively brought her further away from Sasuke and closer to Naruto, and she even says as much. But SS fans, more or less, see her love as being too strong to be cast aside and probably feel validated to some degree by Kakashi saying that Sakura still believes she can "save" Sasuke and that she still has feelings for him despite what he tried to do to her. Those 'feelings' aren't point blank defined as non-romantic, though it's implied that they are more affection and comradeship than love. But the lack of clear definition allows the reader to interpret it as they may. In the end, I feel it's not worth bothering with what the other side thinks because the manga will speak for itself in time.

[narusaku256]

Oh yes and just for the record, because it's tiring me down... Sakura could never create a new eye for Kakashi, so Naruto did not steal her role at all... since it wasn't her role to begin with...
She's a medic, but she can't just create a new eye from a man's cells/DNA.
What Naruto did is something else, and this is not erasing Sakura's job...
IMO it's even a way for them to work together...

They as it is make a perfect couple and now Sakura's flaw is completed by Naruto. How sweet of Kishi ^_^. Those who want to say that Naruto took Sakura's role, they are partly or 1% right! Because Sakura is supposed to heal something which is already there and not create something out of the blue! Sakura can heal the eye but cannot create a new one. Naruto is not taking Sakura's place!

[Otaru]

That's the entire problem. His abilities so overshadow her's that it makes her's seems unnecessary.

 

To me it's something else. It's completely different.

Sakura is still a medic.

Naruto will not pop up everytime to heal someone in her place.

[FireFox]

Oddly enough, the favor is in what we have said in general. It got to the point that NF has to shut down a discussion section. Then, when it opened again, they warned no pairing talk, or suffer the ban. In short, the favorite decision is what we said and honestly, whether you know or not, that's really the only direction. Note: this is not just you, if you don't feel this way. But if you do, I won't blame you but I think the days of hardship is almost over. It's a weird feeling because you're used to one feeling, then shifting to the next, it's going to take a while to transited.

As of now, this is among the worst thing that can happen. SS fans seem to attacking tumblr and cross tagging. It's going to rough for a while, but again, hard to suspend the reality.

Yeah SS went completely nuts i mean Kakashi was talking about how they have changed since the were kids P1 to how  they have matured now P2 , so if SS claimed that she "loved" him in P1 then how can they claim now that those feelings were a crush yet through P2 they have changed to love i mean were is that progression ? 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 07 May 2014 - 06:36 PM.

[narusaku256]

Yeah SS went completely nuts i mean Kakashi was talking about how they have changed since the were kids P1 to how how they have matured now , so if SS claimed that she "loved" him in P1 then how can they claim now that those were a crush yet through P2 they have changed to love i mean were is that progression ? 

Probably its because they still cannot accept that their OTP is officially dead now. I mean its hard to accept that. What if today NS would have been dead! Though I think we would have accepted it by now and moved on, but its really hard coming to terms with the closure of the OTPs. Though their claims are ridiculous, we can see that they are still trying to twist words and that is because deep down they know SS is dead and its just hard for them to come to terms with it. That's how I view the current scenario.

[Derock]

Let me put in my two cents:

 

First off, I don't even want to know why MANY of you worry about what the SasuSaku fans are thinking, just because the translations of Kakashi's thoughts about Sakura's recent development from then to now. Y'all need to stop thinking "Kishimoto keeps reviving ideas of SasuSaku because Sakura somehow can't seem to move on" (while she actually is, its called progress.) Yes she saw and said Sasuke's name, but did she went in full conversation with him? Telling him, "Sasuke-kunnnnn!!!~ I missed you so much!!!"?

 

HELL NO.

 

On to Kakashi's thoughts about her: I see many of you having hissy-fits just because Sakura's feelings for Sasuke changed but seem to think that some sort of "romance" will still in their "playing field" when we already know there isn't any. Sasuke's characterization said time and time again, he doesn't give ONE hoots about Sakura, romantically.

 

Mind you, I wouldn't worry about SasuSaku anyways. Their hopes are gonna bite them in the ass anyway, when Kishimoto eventually going to show Naruto and Sakura having kid(s). We already knew romance isn't Kishimoto's strongest points, hell it isn't on his genre focus. Remember that, people.

 

And despite the fact that she had almost was killed twice by him, keep in mind that she didn't kill any, single, human being in the entire series. Defeated some here and there, though seems like many forget the fact that Sasori wasn't even human when she and Chiyo was facing him.

 

Kakashi was basically thinking that like Naruto, Sakura has a pure soul (or should I say, goodness in her) that she isn't the type to kill or critically hurt someone off in a hitch. 

 

Next up, Naruto's "Jesus" powers... really, people? Next thing you guys will rant if somehow, someway Naruto found a way to seal away the SOSP's powers but couldn't do Sasuke's... (I'm predicting this after this arc is over...)

 

But anyway, that doesn't change Sakura's role, my goodness, WAIT for the battle to actually happen before we judge. What happened if he ever had to be the "healer" but then Madara suddenly pulled off his chakra again like last time? There won't be any Obito around to help bring that back anytime soon.

 

Yes, I agree that this arc isn't the most favorable, but don't have hissy-fits about the little things. Shipping fandom these days.

[Question22]

Idk kishi's intentions but kakashi said that her feelings for Sasuke is diffrent now? which probably means she has a chance to develop feelings for Naruto?

Edited by Question22, 07 May 2014 - 06:49 PM.

[Gojira]

What Naruto has isn't really healing so much as it is....a form of transmutation atleast that's the way he was describing it.

[tonga1]

Those feelings Sakura has for Sasuke is implied that it's no longer love; but just any *feeling* at all. Frankly, I'd be surprised I'd have *ANY* emotions whatsoever for somebody who tried to kill me and threatened to kill my whole village. That's, I think, what it was implying.

kishi is sexist, the concept " gender violence" is unknown to him.

[FoolishYoungling]

Is it just me, or is Sakura's hair growing out?

[FireFox]

Probably its because they still cannot accept that their OTP is officially dead now. I mean its hard to accept that. What if today NS would have been dead! Though I think we would have accepted it by now and moved on, but its really hard coming to terms with the closure of the OTPs. Though their claims are ridiculous, we can see that they are still trying to twist words and that is because deep down they know SS is dead and its just hard for them to come to terms with it. That's how I view the current scenario.

Yeah pretty much what you said but still no mater how you look at it i still wouldn't say that the change of her feelings are ambiguous even neutral fans agree with this , i mean if those feelings were love then the duty part shouldn't even be there because that means she wants to save him not because she "loves him" but as her teammate and puts her feelings in the same context as Naruto's which is friends and teammates . 

 

This is so funny i just saw a ASS reference and it goes like this : Sakura's love has evolved like a pokemon now it has reached the Charizard level  

[Verilance]

Let me put in my two cents:

 

First off, I don't even want to know why MANY of you worry about what the SasuSaku fans are thinking,

 

It is because some people here are obsessed with Sasuke to the point that it drives them wild when he appears in the manga, 

 

as for people saying Kishimoto is deliberately ambigious to keep fans interested, I don't think he gives a tinkers damn what pairing obsessed people anywhere in the world thinks about his manga. He is writing his story the way he wants to to me that is obvious.

 

when people don't get what they want because that is not the story that he is writing, they claim he is a bad writer when it is they that have misinterpreted what is really going on.

 

just my two cents  

[Hanabi]

wtf i figured out from another forum why naruto could grow back organs!

 

senjutsu!!

 

the same way juugo grew sasuke's organs back from the killer b fight!

[narusaku256]

Yeah pretty much what you said but still no mater how you look at it i still wouldn't say that the change of her feelings are ambiguous even neutral fans agree with this , i mean if those feelings were love then the duty part shouldn't even be there because that means she wants to save him not because she "loves him" but as her teammate and puts her feelings in the same context as Naruto's which is friends and teammates . 
 
This is so funny i just saw a ASS reference and it goes like this : Sakura's love has evolved like a pokemon now it has reached the Charizard level  

Yeah, that's true for sure! When I first read those lines I did feel the ambiguity but when I read it again, around 3-4 times, she really was over with Sasuke. No doubt about that! And she thinks that its her duty to bring Sasuke back from darkness. Love doesn't have a duty right? It is just a strong sense of camaraderie she has now. Putting her feelings in the same context as of Naruto's and try to bring him back and supporting Naruto in every way to become Hokage, is it wrong to state that Sakura now SHARES Naruto's dream :)? Oh boy! She really is the girl worth fighting for! Naruto does have a good choice when it comes to girls XD.

Love is like a pokemon! I mean wow! Much sense so cool much intelligent! XD (Long live the doge XD)