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[tonga1]

sasuke wants to kill naruto... so is difficult sakura will choose Between them on equal ground

[Inferno180]

I made a prediction that because the next chapter on may 7th is chapter 8 or so of the volume, we are near the climax, the climax in part will be well Madara getting the rinnegan, but obitos death will be coming most likely in the next few chapters.

 

I mean again, its just in this timeframe, theres no reason in sakura dying when her death wouldnt contribute anything to the story in the long run or in the current timeframe like well, obito's would. I doubt kishi would kill 2 people let alone one of his main characters so suddenly. Its likely that either sakura gets protected by obito and/or sent away by obito with madara not doing much to her, rather going after obito among anything else. I believe in the coming chapters Obito will have some last words with team 7, really one of my reasons for the death of obito is taking a hit for sakura, otherwise this in part pulling in the sakura/rin parallel. Obito as a villian has already had impacts with kakashi, naruto, and sasuke. Saving Sakura in the way he couldnt save rin, even just making the parallel this in essence gives him corrlation with all of team 7. The hardest thing to relate rin was how she died and well, if sakura is in a near death situation being attacked right now, if obito does manage to save her then him succeeding in saving Sakura, even to him one he hardly knows but otherwise is important to others like naruto, well Obito is highly been the opposite to naruto so saving one naruto likes could be just another part of his long redemption. Making things right in the end. I mean it is one thing for the former enemy to save the protagonist, its another if he manages to save a character he had no real importance with but in the sense of stopping a similar calamity, I mean Rin is important on Obito's part, that's true. If he does bring up some parallel event well then the Sakura-Rin stuff is confirmed and a means of finally connecting all of team minato to team 7. It seems silly and otherwise too predictable, even ideal in some cases for NS itself, but kishi made it clear Rin is a big impact on Obito, doing whatever right in his remaining time is something anyone could understand in the hopes that Obito would hope that rin would forgive him.

[shisui]

I'm not denying that there may be a Rin and Sakura parallel, nor will I care if something like that happens. But, I don't think Sakura has to be reduced to a damsel in distress so Obito can get some brownie good guy points by saving her. He can barely move, if he had to ask her to destroy his eye, and by doing something that goes against that will make Sakura look bad.

 

If it's Sasuke or Naruto who saves her, it would be tied with team 7. Getting Obito to save Sakura only benefits him and makes her look bad because of what I already said. Someone suggested Sakura would feel guilty, but I think that would be a disservice still. Can't she fight because she wants to protect him or something like that instead of feeling unworthy?

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 25 April 2014 - 04:35 AM.

[narusaku256]

 
Karin is not Sakura. Karin is someone Sasuke choose because of her powers and who he used as a tool, just like the rest of Taka. Sakura is his childhood acquaintance and someone who poured years of dedication to help him. An apology, especially a poor apology like he gave Karin, is not enough. Not for Sakura and not for Naruto. If Sasuke is supposed to be redeemed and if Team 7 is to laugh together in the end, then he needs to start making up to them.
 
Sasuke saving Sakura doesn't make her knight in shining armour. He has done horrible things to her, including trying to kill her. There is no room for him to be that anymore and saving Sakura is the least he could do after everything that happened. He never was her knight in shining armour, even when he was saving her when they were children. Naruto is her knight in shining armour. This was already established with the confession, because not all of it was Sakura lying to herself. Nothing Sasuke can do now will ever change that.
 
I agree that Sasuke's past actions are awful but that's not Kishi's opinion of him and the way he writes him. He's now half of a whole, with Naruto being the other half and both are needed for a better future, or whatever the way Hogoromo put it. You may not like him but there is no point in demonizing Sasuke, because Kishi isn't going to write that. This is shonen. Sasuke is like Vegeta. If you watched DBZ, you know what I mean with this. Vegeta also did horrible things, but in the end he also had to do go things to be redeemed.
 
I don't want to talk about Sasuke. He gives me a headache. What about the two Madaras merging and Naruto getting into Kamui this way? Any takers?

I hold nothing against you and I agree with you to a point. Yes, he needs to redeem himself, he needs to apologise to Sakura and Naruto in a way much much better than Karin. A simple apology won't do. But WHY SASUKE of all should go and save Sakura!? Why not Naruto? Ofcourse I do not expect Kishi to make Naruto save Sakura, because that won't happen in a thousand years, however we look at it! My problem is with the way Kishi portrays Sasuke. If both Naruto and Sasuke are meant to be equal, why not treat them as equal? People say 673 was Naruto's chapter and 674 was Sasuke's; but honestly does everyone like how Sasuke was portrayed against Naruto? Sasuke was portrayed like having a totally badass powerup even though Naruto's powerup was equal to him or perhaps better. He got way too much acknowledgement against Naruto. Isn't it Naruto's right to be portrayed as Sakura's 'knight in shining armor'? I won't mind if Obito saves her or she does something to save herself. But why SASUKE of all! Leaving the pairing part aside, is it really good to portray Sasuke saving Sakura just for redemption's sake? If that is so, I can add Naruto saving Sakura and be her 'knight in shining armor' for pairing's sake. Same scenario but two different motives. If Sasuke was to be favoured so much better name the series 'Sasuke' or both Naruto and Sasuke are equal as Kishi claims, name the series 'Naruto and Sasuke'. Sorry for downpour of emotions but I really can't stand Sasuke getting better treatment than Naruto when clearly both are supposed to be equal and even more, Sasuke getting closer to Sakura! That would be the first thing to get me off my limits!!

[shisui]

I hold nothing against you and I agree with you to a point. Yes, he needs to redeem himself, he needs to apologise to Sakura and Naruto in a way much much better than Karin. A simple apology won't do. But WHY SASUKE of all should go and save Sakura!? Why not Naruto? Ofcourse I do not expect Kishi to make Naruto save Sakura, because that won't happen in a thousand years, however we look at it! My problem is with the way Kishi portrays Sasuke. If both Naruto and Sasuke are meant to be equal, why not treat them as equal? People say 673 was Naruto's chapter and 674 was Sasuke's; but honestly does everyone like how Sasuke was portrayed against Naruto? Sasuke was portrayed like having a totally badass powerup even though Naruto's powerup was equal to him or perhaps better. He got way too much acknowledgement against Naruto. Isn't it Naruto's right to be portrayed as Sakura's 'knight in shining armor'? I won't mind if Obito saves her or she does something to save herself. But why SASUKE of all! Leaving the pairing part aside, is it really good to portray Sasuke saving Sakura just for redemption's sake? If that is so, I can add Naruto saving Sakura and be her 'knight in shining armor' for pairing's sake. Same scenario but two different motives. If Sasuke was to be favoured so much better name the series 'Sasuke' or both Naruto and Sasuke are equal as Kishi claims, name the series 'Naruto and Sasuke'. Sorry for downpour of emotions but I really can't stand Sasuke getting better treatment than Naruto when clearly both are supposed to be equal and even more, Sasuke getting closer to Sakura! That would be the first thing to get me off my limits!!

 

I understand your dislike for Sasuke to have an equal role as Naruto. I don't like it either, but I've accepted that's the way it is at least for now.

 

Naruto has saved Sakura before many times. Including one against Sasuke and even in this war (against Zetsu). I don't think it would matter either way.

 

[Hanabi]

wouldn't it be sweet if naruto/kurama's chakra flared up around sakura to protect her?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Thought I should share.

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Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 25 April 2014 - 05:45 AM.

[DattebayoXShannaro]

I made a prediction that because the next chapter on may 7th is chapter 8 or so of the volume, we are near the climax, the climax in part will be well Madara getting the rinnegan, but obitos death will be coming most likely in the next few chapters.

 

I mean again, its just in this timeframe, theres no reason in sakura dying when her death wouldnt contribute anything to the story in the long run or in the current timeframe like well, obito's would. I doubt kishi would kill 2 people let alone one of his main characters so suddenly. Its likely that either sakura gets protected by obito and/or sent away by obito with madara not doing much to her, rather going after obito among anything else. I believe in the coming chapters Obito will have some last words with team 7, really one of my reasons for the death of obito is taking a hit for sakura, otherwise this in part pulling in the sakura/rin parallel. Obito as a villian has already had impacts with kakashi, naruto, and sasuke. Saving Sakura in the way he couldnt save rin, even just making the parallel this in essence gives him corrlation with all of team 7. The hardest thing to relate rin was how she died and well, if sakura is in a near death situation being attacked right now, if obito does manage to save her then him succeeding in saving Sakura, even to him one he hardly knows but otherwise is important to others like naruto, well Obito is highly been the opposite to naruto so saving one naruto likes could be just another part of his long redemption. Making things right in the end. I mean it is one thing for the former enemy to save the protagonist, its another if he manages to save a character he had no real importance with but in the sense of stopping a similar calamity, I mean Rin is important on Obito's part, that's true. If he does bring up some parallel event well then the Sakura-Rin stuff is confirmed and a means of finally connecting all of team minato to team 7. It seems silly and otherwise too predictable, even ideal in some cases for NS itself, but kishi made it clear Rin is a big impact on Obito, doing whatever right in his remaining time is something anyone could understand in the hopes that Obito would hope that rin would forgive him.

 

That doesn't mean she can't put herself in danger, and I believe she will to protect Obito and Rinnegan.  It makes logical sense for her to try to do that.  Obito has no reason to associate Rin with Sakura.  Also, I doubt he would act on impulse or feelings when he knows full well the danger of Madara getting the other eye.  Obito's philosophy shouldn't even come into play, as Sakura is not his friend either.  Plus, he's already trash for everything he's done.  He has to atone by living, not by sacrificing his life.  That's what Naruto said.  Naruto must have used the ability he used on Gai on Obito first, and that's how he and Black Zetsu are still alive.  Why should the story continue to go in-depth on Obito?  He's been explored enough.  His character has come full circle.  There's nothing more that needs to be done with him.  Instead, let this event focus on Sakura, who's character is still progressing.  Much can be done in this event alone, like having her overcome her anxiety around Madara, and willingly throw herself into a battle she can't win, in order to buy time to make sure the Rinnegan doesn't fall to Madara.  She would be endanger, but she wouldn't die.  Maybe injured, but she wouldn't die.

[Awes9]

What's the point of Sasuke saving Sakura ? To gain her trust back ? the last time we saw Sakura's toughts she was distrustful of him, all of this has to lead something and it wouldn't make sense for it to lead to Sakura and Sasuke on good terms, quite the contrary I think Sasuke's later actions will most likely be a coup de grace for Sakura who still has a hard time accepting Sasuke for what he really is.

I also love the usual double standard towards Karin. Sorry googleismyfriend no matter how many times you repeat it I don't see Sasuke's actions towards Sakura as more special than his actions towards Karin, it's basically almost the same just the former takes place in part 1 while the second in part 2. Yeah there will be peace between Sakura and Sasuke but not before Sasuke and Naruto have resolved their differences once and for all.

[ramenanmitsu]

 

That doesn't mean she can't put herself in danger, and I believe she will to protect Obito and Rinnegan.  It makes logical sense for her to try to do that.  Obito has no reason to associate Rin with Sakura.  Also, I doubt he would act on impulse or feelings when he knows full well the danger of Madara getting the other eye.  Obito's philosophy shouldn't even come into play, as Sakura is not his friend either.  Plus, he's already trash for everything he's done.  He has to atone by living, not by sacrificing his life.  That's what Naruto said.  Naruto must have used the ability he used on Gai on Obito first, and that's how he and Black Zetsu are still alive.  Why should the story continue to go in-depth on Obito?  He's been explored enough.  His character has come full circle.  There's nothing more that needs to be done with him.  Instead, let this event focus on Sakura, who's character is still progressing.  Much can be done in this event alone, like having her overcome her anxiety around Madara, and willingly throw herself into a battle she can't win, in order to buy time to make sure the Rinnegan doesn't fall to Madara.  She would be endanger, but she wouldn't die.  Maybe injured, but she wouldn't die.

Agreed at the bolded. I don't want another Obito's dialogue regarding Rin and I definitely do not want any other parallel character of Sakura to make an appearance. I don't care whether Sakura is Rin's parallel or not, it brings nothing to Sakura's development. If Kishi has panels to show a useless Rin/Sakura parallel, use that panel to develop her. (My hate for parallels is so strong I have a hard time covering it, lol.) 

 

I really hope your post comes true. it made me feel a bit more optimistic since I lost my hope on Kishi to develop Sakura in strength. 

[narusaku256]

Sakura needs to defend herself for a bit, but I'm not so against her being saved after that. Madara is in a whole new level and he just raped Kakashi in a single panel.

 

The Kamui portal is still open last time we seen it. Technically, Sasuke can go inside by hitching a ride in the jutsu's tailcoats. Saving Sakura would make up for Iron Country and make her trust on him again. I know nobody here likes the idea of them making peace with each other, but not expecting them to is a ridiculous fantasy, they are important to each other.

 

Also, before I'm called a SS fan again, I'll remind you why this is good for NaruSaku. Sakura will choose between them on equal grounds and there won't be any sillyness like SasuSaku didn't become canon because of technicalities like if he had never left, or if he had never became evil, or if he had never tried to kill her. No, it needs to be flawless. I don't understand why some are so against the idea. It feels like insecurity to me, giving him this kind of threat power he doesn't deserve.

Not a bad thought. But what I feel is, after all the things that Sasuke has done to Sakura and all the more to Naruto, I don't know if there is/there will be an equal ground between Naruto and Sasuke to choose from(for Sakura)because we all know how Naruto and Sasuke have treated/been/matter to Sakura, independently. If at all Sakura forgives Sasuke(which she will because of Naruto), it will be for what he has done to her, it will take some time for her to forgive Sasuke for all he has made Naruto to go through, because if I am not wrong Naruto is the most important person to her and Sakura, strangely, dosen't tolerate anyone who insults Naruto, not even Sasuke, as seen in Kage Summit Arc. Also you mentioned about sillyness that if Sasuke hadn't left and all that, it is all IFs and BUTs. What matters is what he did and all the more the path he took was by his own decision which he made when he was in his SENSES. What SS fandom will say won't matter because it will be all IFs and BUTs which I think don't count because at the end of the day, what matters is the end result. And no fandom, I repeat no fandom can claim than NS is out of the blue and this and that. Opposing fandoms and the antis have seen their developments as a pair and their feelings for each other independently, which the other fandoms refuse to or either don't want to accept. 

Edited by narusaku256, 25 April 2014 - 07:22 AM.

[MoonDrop04]

Has anyone ever noticed that no matter what storyline, battles or techniques that different manga or anime uses that the big final boss fight is always very similar to how they are portrayed??

Final boss battles seem to go in a order like this:
1: hero vs villain begin fighting
2: each side shows there respective powers in whatever fashion the story uses
3: the villain is shown to be a difficult challenge in the beginning but at "some point" the hero starts to over power the villain
4: then all of a sudden the villain starts to get a massive power up out of nowhere and makes the hero become desperate against the new power
5: hero finds some way or last bit of hope to take down the villain despite the difference in power and eventually wins

I've read so many different Battle manga in the past few years that this has always been the order that every writer have write their final boss fights. Now that I think about it that also included video games lol XD!! So we can't really say that Kishi is gonna be any different in this fight right??

So to what I'm getting at is that if Kishi does go this route then destroying Madaras Rinnegan is really high Possibilty of happening!! Right now From what we have seen is that Madara is on equal footing with Naruto and Sasuke when they are together and with only just one Rinnegan. So that takes care of step 1 and 2 and step 3 isn't that far off. If Madaras Rinnegan does become destroyed it doesn't actually weaken him cause he's still a powerhouse that still difficult for Naruto and Sasuke to defeat. So what can put Madara into a disadvantage?? I would say other then giving Naruto and Sasuke more power how bout adding another person to their tag team and make it a 3 vs 1 instead?? And all of you should know to who I'm referring to cause this would showcase the power of Team 7 into ninja history much like their predecessors the Sannin did in their time. So if Sakura is added into the mix I wouldn't know what could give her a chance to help Naruto and Sasuke push Madara into a corner but it would have be something that we have all been waiting for her to have!!!

Now that takes care of step 3 but what about step 4?? Without his other Rinnegan what could Madara possibly do to make himself stronger???? Easy cause we caught a glimpse of his future guardian angel.......Kaguya!!!! She is somehow going to be involved in this fight and going to make Madara one hell of a powerful badass final villain. And with that power up will put team 7 back into a major disadvantage and force them to find that step 5........the last bit of hope!!!

Now I don't even know what the heck Kishi will do to finally put Madara down but it's going to be what I have said step 5 is. I don't have any guarantees that it's gonna happen like this and it probably won't but with evidence of how other battle manga have done it's Definetly not a far cry!!

[shisui]

What's the point of Sasuke saving Sakura ? To gain her trust back ? the last time we saw Sakura's toughts she was distrustful of him, all of this has to lead something and it wouldn't make sense for it to lead to Sakura and Sasuke on good terms, quite the contrary I think Sasuke's later actions will most likely be a coup de grace for Sakura who still has a hard time accepting Sasuke for what he really is.

I also love the usual double standard towards Karin. Sorry googleismyfriend no matter how many times you repeat it I don't see Sasuke's actions towards Sakura as more special than his actions towards Karin, it's basically almost the same just the former takes place in part 1 while the second in part 2.

 
Here we go.
 
Yes, to gain her trust back. So she can make a proper choice between them. Sakura having no trust in Sasuke makes no difference. Remember Sakura tried to kill him before and having no trust in him isn't worse than that. Sasuke being a good guy shouldn't affect Sakura's decision either. She should chose Naruto because of his merits, not because of Sasuke's shortcomings.
 
Sakura fell in love with twelve year old Sasuke and while she (and Naruto) can pretend that he'll go back to being that guy they remember, we know that's not possible. The twelve year old Sasuke doesn't exist anymore, he's sixteen year old Sasuke now and once she realises that, her feelings will no longer have a reason to exist. Naruto too may realise his best friend really isn't how he remembers (with Kishimoto, you never know). They can rebuild their friendships from there and laugh together or what was said. This is how I think NaruSaku can become canon. Sakura realising that whom she loves doesn't exist anymore. She'll be ready for a new start and Naruto, who she has grown with, is the right candidate.
 
Karin is such a sore subject with some of you. As much as the HaruHina fans want her to take away Sakura's role with Naruto and give it to Hinata, you want to take away Sakura's role with Sasuke and give it to Karin. It's easy to say Sakura and Sasuke don't have a bond, but Team 7 is a team. It's a trio, not Naruto and Sasuke being best friends (lol) and Naruto and Sakura being lovers, there's Sasuke and Sakura to consider too. They can be friends. They should be friends.
 

Yeah there will be peace between Sakura and Sasuke but not before Sasuke and Naruto have resolved their differences once and for all.

 

Naruto and Sasuke may resolve their differences first or after Sasuke and Sakura resolves theirs. Why would the order matter?
 

That doesn't mean she can't put herself in danger, and I believe she will to protect Obito and Rinnegan.  It makes logical sense for her to try to do that.  Obito has no reason to associate Rin with Sakura.  Also, I doubt he would act on impulse or feelings when he knows full well the danger of Madara getting the other eye.  Obito's philosophy shouldn't even come into play, as Sakura is not his friend either.  Plus, he's already trash for everything he's done.  He has to atone by living, not by sacrificing his life.  That's what Naruto said.  Naruto must have used the ability he used on Gai on Obito first, and that's how he and Black Zetsu are still alive.  Why should the story continue to go in-depth on Obito?  He's been explored enough.  His character has come full circle.  There's nothing more that needs to be done with him.  Instead, let this event focus on Sakura, who's character is still progressing.  Much can be done in this event alone, like having her overcome her anxiety around Madara, and willingly throw herself into a battle she can't win, in order to buy time to make sure the Rinnegan doesn't fall to Madara.  She would be endanger, but she wouldn't die.  Maybe injured, but she wouldn't die.

 
I like this. I'm with  ramenanmitsu. I don't want parallels and I want Sakura to be able to hold her own, not to be a prop for half-dead Obito.
 

Not a bad thought. But what I feel is, after all the things that Sasuke has done to Sakura and all the more to Naruto, I don't know if there is/there will be an equal ground between Naruto and Sasuke to choose from(for Sakura)because we all know how Naruto and Sasuke have treated/been/matter to Sakura, independently. If at all Sakura forgives Sasuke(which she will because of Naruto), it will be for what he has done to her, it will take some time for her to forgive Sasuke for all he has made Naruto to go through, because if I am not wrong Naruto is the most important person to her and Sakura, strangely, dosen't tolerate anyone who insults Naruto, not even Sasuke, as seen in Kage Summit Arc. Also you mentioned about sillyness that if Sasuke hadn't left and all that, it is all IFs and BUTs. What matters is what he did and all the more the path he took was by his own decision which he made when he was in his SENSES. What SS fandom will say won't matter because it will be all IFs and BUTs which I think don't count because at the end of the day, what matters is the end result. And no fandom, I repeat no fandom can claim than NS is out of the blue and this and that. Opposing fandoms and the antis have seen their developments as a pair and their feelings for each other independently, which the other fandoms refuse to or either don't want to accept.

 
Sasuke's character may cause anger and I won't dispute that, but if Kishi wrote Naruto being okay with him after all the murder attempts, then he will do the same with Sakura. She may have more difficulty in accepting it, but she'll forgive him. I don't see the point of her not forgiving him. Is there a point?

Edited by GoogleIsMyFriend, 25 April 2014 - 10:20 AM.

[Jenskott]

 

 

Has anyone ever noticed that no matter what storyline, battles or techniques that different manga or anime uses that the big final boss fight is always very similar to how they are portrayed??

Final boss battles seem to go in a order like this:
1: hero vs villain begin fighting
2: each side shows there respective powers in whatever fashion the story uses
3: the villain is shown to be a difficult challenge in the beginning but at "some point" the hero starts to over power the villain
4: then all of a sudden the villain starts to get a massive power up out of nowhere and makes the hero become desperate against the new power
5: hero finds some way or last bit of hope to take down the villain despite the difference in power and eventually wins

I've read so many different Battle manga in the past few years that this has always been the order that every writer have write their final boss fights. Now that I think about it that also included video games lol XD!! So we can't really say that Kishi is gonna be any different in this fight right??

 

It is not ALWAYS like that at all -there is plenty subversions-, but that is a very popular scheme in fighting series, yes (not so in other series. You will not see power-ups in a crime or sports manga, for example). I do not think that Kishimoto will stray far from it.

[MoonDrop04]

 
It is not ALWAYS like that at all -there is plenty subversions-, but that is a very popular scheme in fighting series, yes (not so in other series. You will not see power-ups in a crime or sports manga, for example). I do not think that Kishimoto will stray far from it.

EXACTLY!!! It is a very popular scheme to use in a battle/fighting series!!! You know what let's just call it shounen Style series for short XD lol. Great examples of using this style of fighting are Bleach, Rave Master, Air Gear, Scryed, Fairy Tail, One Piece and so many others over the years. I feel very confidant that Kishi would do the same for Naruto as well but with a lot of extra hope that he could incorporate Sakura into the last fight against Madara as well. Not just for more development and characterization on her part, but to have a major development and moment for Team 7 as a whole.

[Awes9]

 
Here we go.
 
Yes, to gain her trust back. So she can make a proper choice between them. Sakura having no trust in Sasuke makes no difference. Remember Sakura tried to kill him before and having no trust in him isn't worse than that. Sasuke being a good guy shouldn't affect Sakura's decision either. She should chose Naruto because of his merits, not because of Sasuke's shortcomings.
 
Sakura fell in love with twelve year old Sasuke and while she (and Naruto) can pretend that he'll go back to being that guy they remember, we know that's not possible. The twelve year old Sasuke doesn't exist anymore, he's sixteen year old Sasuke now and once she realises that, her feelings will no longer have a reason to exist. Naruto too may realise his best friend really isn't how he remembers (with Kishimoto, you never know). They can rebuild their friendships from there and laugh together or what was said. This is how I think NaruSaku can become canon. Sakura realising that whom she loves doesn't exist anymore. She'll be ready for a new start and Naruto, who she has grown with, is the right candidate.
 
Karin is such a sore subject with some of you. As much as the HaruHina fans want her to take away Sakura's role with Naruto and give it to Hinata, you want to take away Sakura's role with Sasuke and give it to Karin. It's easy to say Sakura and Sasuke don't have a bond, but Team 7 is a team. It's a trio, not Naruto and Sasuke being best friends (lol) and Naruto and Sakura being lovers, there's Sasuke and Sakura to consider too. They can be friends. They should be friends.

Sounds to me like a headcanon, I don't know how Kishi will make Sakura and Naruto happen (if it does happen and that's a big if) but it's my personal opinion that whatever way he does it the relationship has been already damaged and I don't see any realistic way to repair it and while your headcanon is nice I just don't think the manga supports this theory. Sakura's development towards Sasuke is negative, she's disappointed in him and doesn't trust him so why would she suddenly trust him and be friends again when we all know Sasuke and Naruto will fight to the death ? it really makes no sense to me. As I said all of this is building up for Sakura to get over Sasuke once and for all, it just needs further development. Your scenario is nice for NS I just don't think it follows the manga plot.

 

The problem is team 7 is hardly emphasized at all even in the kage summit arc it was almost entirely about NaruSasu. Also you can't blame people for not seeing the bond between Sasuke and Sakura when they hardly exchanged more than 2 sentences and the only thing they shared during part 2, which is more than 400 chapters long and the majority of the manga, are mutual murder attempts. The only thing emphasized about Sasuke and Sakura were Sakura's feelings, for Sasuke Sakura is hardly an aftertought. It's my opinion but I just don't think Sasuke and Sakura's bond is important otherwise Kishi would do it more justice and as far as I can remember that's not the case. I mean yes they will be friends in the end but I don't execpt anything grand to happen between them.

[shisui]

Sounds to me like a headcanon, I don't know how Kishi will make Sakura and Naruto happen (if it does happen and that's a big if) but it's my personal opinion that whatever way he does it the relationship has been already damaged and I don't see any realistic way to repair it and while your headcanon is nice I just don't think the manga supports this theory. Sakura's development towards Sasuke is negative, she's disappointed in him and doesn't trust him so why would she suddenly trust him and be friends again when we all know Sasuke and Naruto will fight to the death ? it really makes no sense to me. As I said all of this is building up for Sakura to get over Sasuke once and for all, it just needs further development. Your scenario is nice for NS I just don't think it follows the manga plot.

 

The problem is team 7 is hardly emphasized at all even in the kage summit arc it was almost entirely about NaruSasu. Also you can't blame people for not seeing the bond between Sasuke and Sakura when they hardly exchanged more than 2 sentences and the only thing they shared during part 2, which is more than 400 chapters long and the majority of the manga, are mutual murder attempts. The only thing emphasized about Sasuke and Sakura were Sakura's feelings, for Sasuke Sakura is hardly an aftertought. It's my opinion but I just don't think Sasuke and Sakura's bond is important otherwise Kishi would do it more justice and as far as I can remember that's not the case. I mean yes they will be friends in the end but I don't execpt anything grand to happen between them.

 

It's not a headcanon. Or if it is, then it has the same weight as your opinion.

 

You are insisting that Team 7 will not be healed, when there's been plenty of foreshadowing that it will be. Didn't Kishi say he hadn't had fun drawing a cover in years until volume 66? Team 7 has been paralleled to other teams, ones that they are supposed to surpass, which have all been destroyed.

 

It doesn't matter if Sasuke and Sakura don't have much of positive interaction. Naruto and Sasuke have no positive interaction either. All we have is Naruto stalking and Sasuke ignoring all that for the entirety of part 2. They're still going to end up as friends, because this is Kishi's way.

 

You say you don't expect something grand out of Sasuke and Sakura but I never said you should expect that. I said is that they have a bond, that justifies this being called Team 7, not NaruSasu + NaruSaku.

[rocci]

@moondrop
What kind of power up sakura will gain?
I don't think sakura will gain power up, maybe a demonstration of her seal power.

[FireFox]

 

Karin is not Sakura. Karin is someone Sasuke choose because of her powers and who he used as a tool, just like the rest of Taka. Sakura is his childhood acquaintance and someone who poured years of dedication to help him. An apology, especially a poor apology like he gave Karin, is not enough. Not for Sakura and not for Naruto. If Sasuke is supposed to be redeemed and if Team 7 is to laugh together in the end, then he needs to start making up to them.

 

Sasuke saving Sakura doesn't make her knight in shining armour. He has done horrible things to her, including trying to kill her. There is no room for him to be that anymore and saving Sakura is the least he could do after everything that happened. He never was her knight in shining armour, even when he was saving her when they were children. Naruto is her knight in shining armour. This was already established with the confession, because not all of it was Sakura lying to herself. Nothing Sasuke can do now will ever change that.

 

I agree that Sasuke's past actions are awful but that's not Kishi's opinion of him and the way he writes him. He's now half of a whole, with Naruto being the other half and both are needed for a better future, or whatever the way Hogoromo put it. You may not like him but there is no point in demonizing Sasuke, because Kishi isn't going to write that. This is shonen. Sasuke is like Vegeta. If you watched DBZ, you know what I mean with this. Vegeta also did horrible things, but in the end he also had to do go things to be redeemed.

 

I don't want to talk about Sasuke. He gives me a headache. What about the two Madaras merging and Naruto getting into Kamui this way? Any takers?

 

The whole Bee vs Taka fight debunks that he viewed them as just tools he compared them to T7 he risked his life for them back then sorry but you just don't do that if you see someone as tool , plus Taka is someone he chose to be with he wasn't forced to be with them like with T7 . Karin is someone he begged to come with him and didn't force her to it Karin is someone he risked his life just to save her and awaken MS  ability his almighty "Uciha's asspull power of love"(god i hate this so much kitten you Kishi) , she is someone who's abilities he respects and considered her as favorite (and this was not as a tool you can check the raw for that the meaning is different ) , The apology he gave her as far as i understand it was not just a simple apology in therms of Japanese culture (again check the raw) . This is more then what he ever thought of Sakura , Sasuke hasn't shown something like this toward Sakura and yet i'm supposed to believe that she's so much important to him ? Sorry not buying it . Also Sakura poured years of dedication to help Naruto to protect her team and to not be seen as useless anymore she also did that for herself . You say because she dedicated some of her time to save him from Oro makes her special to him but show me a panel of Sasuke  appreciateing that ? Sasuke doesn't recognizes that instead he recognizes that trait in Naruto and him only he doesn't give a kitten about her .

 

And i know that you will probably disagree with my view on Karin and Team Taka so take it with a grain of salt if you wish .

 

Another thing is that you guys say is that he needs to make up for that but that is not in Sasuke's character , when he came to the battlefield he admitted the things that he has done and yet he said that he doesn't care about what they think he admitted and he didn't show any remorse not to Sakura and not to anyone else . The little kitten is like that he's to Uciha prideful he doesn't apologize and he doesn't makes amends for the things he does , and in order to make amends you first need to show that you regret doing those things and like i said Sasuke shows none of it that's why him saving Sakura would accomplish nothing , he's in this war for his own selfish reasons and doesn't care about the rest . This is why he's apology to Karin in some level works because he truly regretted his actions toward her that was not the prideful kitten that we all know and i f***ing hate and that means something no matter how much you hate that .

But to expect for him to make amends for what he did to work for forgiveness i will bet in 2 boxes of beer that you will never ever ever see that coming for him . Also like i previously said after this war he will stab Naruto in the back and to make Sakura forgive him or trust him now is ridiculous and doesn't make any sense .  

 

  Team 7 as a whole imo is almost finished 632 i think was their last thing as a "team" all that is left for them is to settle their differences and to make peace with each  other right after the NaruSasu fight this is were they will have their last laugh and move on with their lives .

Personally i have never  considered  the old T7 as a real team they never struck me as one because T7 was basically Naruto and Sasuke and Naruto and Sakura working together on some level but it was never the three of them working as a unit , i consider the new T7 as a real team and Team Taka on some level because we have actually seen them working together as a unit not as individuals , i feel like  most of the people like original T7 because of how powerful they look when they are put together not as how they work as a unit(632 again showed this) for me Sikamaru's team is the greatest team in Naruto because you can actually see them working as a unit all the time  imo.

 

Also i have posted previously my reasons for why Sasuke going in there is impossible and wouldn't make any sense but i will put it in here again .      

 

OK i posted this in the NS debate thread so i thought i do that in here also .

 

 People are basically freaking out for nothing especially SS they hope now that since Sasuke has the almighty asspull eye of the Juubi that he can use every sharingan jutsu and teleport to the Kamui dimension despite that his powers of the Rinengan were shown in this chapter and guess what he didn't have that ability plus if he had he wouldn't have needed Tobirama's assistance to get to Naruto and Madara . Also there is no evidence not even a hint that someone else beside the user can go to that dimension , the user of the jutsu dictates who can go in and out not the other way around also if it was possible for someone to get in while the user teleports to that place then that would be a weakness of the jutsu that Kishi has never presented to us before  if this was possible then he would have showed this weakness during the fight of Obito vs Naruto and Kakashi when the weaknesses of the jutsu were being revealed  presenting that now would be a plot hole . So Sasuke going in there is impossible .

 

Btw looking through this chapter again for the 10 time i noticed that Naruto trapped the shadow clone of Madara with that Seal Rasengan and it was established in this chapter that the damage that shadow receives is transferred to the original when the shadow returns to him right ? So maybe this is how Naruto can help Obito and Sakura by stopping/delaying the real Madara movements enough for Obito and Sakura or just Sakura to escape or fight BZ then escape this is what i think will happen .  

 

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 25 April 2014 - 11:56 AM.

[tonga1]

the good thing is sakura will have screentime in the next chapters, something inusual for her lately..