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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:14 AM

Because Pain was invading konoha and there were too many injured so she had go to the hospital to help the medics who work there.
So yep agree to disagree.

 

Alright then. In the future though I would appreciate you to tone down the condescending attitude, intentional or not you tend to come across very rude and haughty at times. I'm not trying to get personal or be rude, but I feel that my opinion is just as valid as yours, and since you chose to engage me, you should do so with respect.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:20 AM

 

Alright then. In the future though I would appreciate you to tone down the condescending attitude, intentional or not you tend to come across very rude and haughty at times. I'm not trying to get personal or be rude, but I feel that my opinion is just as valid as yours, and since you chose to engage me, you should do so with respect.

Good man, i would appreciate the same too coming to tell me that i'm speculating on a pure subtopic which is based off on speculation.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 02:13 AM

Regarding the question of whether or not Sakura will choose to become a housewife, this is what we have to go on:

 

"631" Sakura made it clear that she's not willing to be pushed aside, and she is unwilling to allow Naruto to become so protective that she is not allowed to function as a ninja.

Sakura's claimed several times that she considers herself a real Ninja, and she has stated several times doesn't want to be left behind.

 

 

The assumption that because we've never seen Sakura in the hospital --except during the Pain Invasion, and during the War Arc-- really doesn't make sense.  For Sakura to be stationed at the hospital during emergencies, let alone to have the authority to lead the hospital, she's have to be familiar with the hospital, the staff, and protocol.  Not to mention, the staff seemed familiar with her during the crisis.  If she didn't have some familiarity with the hospital and staff, she could not be placed into such a position.  Chances are, at the very least, she'd have to take shifts at the hospital when not on mission, when not training/working with Tsunade, or when not doing research.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 01:18 PM

Regarding the question of whether or not Sakura will choose to become a housewife, this is what we have to go on:

 

"631" Sakura made it clear that she's not willing to be pushed aside, and she is unwilling to allow Naruto to become so protective that she is not allowed to function as a ninja.

Sakura's claimed several times that she considers herself a real Ninja, and she has stated several times doesn't want to be left behind.

 

 

The assumption that because we've never seen Sakura in the hospital --except during the Pain Invasion, and during the War Arc-- really doesn't make sense.  For Sakura to be stationed at the hospital during emergencies, let alone to have the authority to lead the hospital, she's have to be familiar with the hospital, the staff, and protocol.  Not to mention, the staff seemed familiar with her during the crisis.  If she didn't have some familiarity with the hospital and staff, she could not be placed into such a position.  Chances are, at the very least, she'd have to take shifts at the hospital when not on mission, when not training/working with Tsunade, or when not doing research.

 

Fist of all it's true that Sakura wanted to be strong but mostly of it to not be protected by Naruto and Sasuke at all times and it's something she already fullfilled.
But didnt kushina stated she wanted to be a hokage and be the strongest Kunoichi of the leaf village and left behind because of Minato and realized that what most important on life is be happy.
Inst it the same path Sakura is going on?
Realizing her true love for Naruto because she realizes it's what make her happy the most.

 

Sakura is familiarized with the hospital, protocols and stuff but because on part 1 she started training there at Tsunade's orders.

She's mostly doing research on the hospital with or without Shizune and on emergency situations and she's always unlike the other medical ninjas goes into battle.

And the term for it is field medic.

 

And most important i think that we arent understanding each other here.

You said " Chances are, at the very least, she'd have to take shifts at the hospital when not on mission, when not training/working with Tsunade, or when not doing research."

So what about Naruto?
She's more familiarized with the kage's office than the hospital.
The shippuuden starts with her perfoming tasks for Tsunade instead of being at the hospital and she's always being shown at the kage's office.

Chances are she will work at the kage's office with Naruto much similar to Tsunade/Shizune.
 


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 04:10 PM

Good man, i would appreciate the same too coming to tell me that i'm speculating on a pure subtopic which is based off on speculation.

 

First of all, I am not a man. I don't know why you took such offense to me saying that it was your speculation, I only said that because your demeanor was that you were presenting theory as if it were fact, and it's not. Okay? And what's so wrong with the idea of Sakura continuing as a ninja anyway, why do you seem so against it?



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 05:49 PM

 

First of all, I am not a man. I don't know why you took such offense to me saying that it was your speculation, I only said that because your demeanor was that you were presenting theory as if it were fact, and it's not. Okay? And what's so wrong with the idea of Sakura continuing as a ninja anyway, why do you seem so against it?

Because it would mean her development is not finished and moreover what she has to gain on still perfoming missions by herself?

If she's happy like Kushina and her development is finished, she would be happy, second she would already acknowledged herself as a strong ninja(because of Naruto), third she was basically trained the entire part 2 to be a hokage's assistant pratically.
And she cant be either Naruto's assistant or a housewive because if she doesnt continue being a ninja and working or missions would be like throwing all the development on terms of ninja on a trash cant, when Kushina let go her dream to be kage and be the strongest kunoichi of the leaf because she was happy and Sakura doesnt even  has a dream when it comes to be the strongest shinobi or surpass her master or even be hokage, the only dream that Sakura has is to support Naruto and help him to fullfill his dreams.

 

And on my opinion Naruto and Sakura running the village is way better than Naruto working alone on the kage's office and Sakura working on the hospital and/or perfoming ninja missions by herself.

 

The manga presented that couples always work together.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:00 PM

Because it would mean her development is not finished and moreover what she has to gain on still perfoming missions by herself?

If she's happy like Kushina and her development is finished, she would be happy, second she would already acknowledged herself as a strong ninja(because of Naruto), third she was basically trained the entire part 2 to be a hokage's assistant pratically.
And she cant be either Naruto's assistant or a housewive because if she doesnt continue being a ninja and working or missions would be like throwing all the development on terms of ninja on a trash cant, when Kushina let go her dream to be kage and be the strongest kunoichi of the leaf because she was happy and Sakura doesnt even  has a dream when it comes to be the strongest shinobi or surpass her master or even be hokage, the only dream that Sakura has is to support Naruto and help him to fullfill his dreams.

 

And on my opinion Naruto and Sakura running the village is way better than Naruto working alone on the kage's office and Sakura working on the hospital and/or perfoming ninja missions by herself.

 

The manga presented that couples always work together.

 

I think this went too far and i'm going to finish it here.

 

Wait, what? Sakura's development can only be complete if she quits as a ninja and is content staying home? That certainly is a warped perception, but if I suits you, so be it. And I agree, we have nothing more to discuss here as we clearly are not going to see eye to eye on this matter.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:03 PM

One of the importand factors of this argument is whether Kushina still worked as a ninja before she got pregnant.  That in itself is speculation because we never see her as an adult before she was.  I'd assumme before she got pregnant, she was still on duty, only becuase I can't imagine someone like her being confined to the house or office.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:11 PM

One of the importand factors of this argument is whether Kushina still worked as a ninja before she got pregnant.  That in itself is speculation because we never see her as an adult before she was.  I'd assummed before she got pregnant, she was still on duty, only becuase I can't imagine someone like her being confined to the house or office.

 

Exactly. We do not know either way, and I seriously cannot imagine Kushina or Sakura being content to stay home. Not that I don't think they wouldn't what to spend time with their families and children, and actively contribute in that, I just don't think they want to limit themselves to that alone.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:15 PM

One of the importand factors of this argument is whether Kushina still worked as a ninja before she got pregnant.  That in itself is speculation because we never see her as an adult before she was.  I'd assummed before she got pregnant, she was still on duty, only becuase I can't imagine someone like her being confined to the house or office.


Actually, in road to ninja which is a movie that kishi wrote the plot line for, it seems that after Naruto was born and could take care of himself, kushina and Minato were going on missions as they were introduced with them coming back from a mission and also, they went on another mission with Naruto and Sakura. It's not canon but kishi did write the plot for it. It could show he had the intention of kushina continuing to be a ninja and doing missions after childbirth.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:18 PM

Because it would mean her development is not finished and moreover what she has to gain on still perfoming missions by herself?

If she's happy like Kushina and her development is finished, she would be happy, second she would already acknowledged herself as a strong ninja(because of Naruto), third she was basically trained the entire part 2 to be a hokage's assistant pratically.
And she cant be either Naruto's assistant or a housewive because if she doesnt continue being a ninja and working or missions would be like throwing all the development on terms of ninja on a trash cant, when Kushina let go her dream to be kage and be the strongest kunoichi of the leaf because she was happy and Sakura doesnt even  has a dream when it comes to be the strongest shinobi or surpass her master or even be hokage, the only dream that Sakura has is to support Naruto and help him to fullfill his dreams.

 

And on my opinion Naruto and Sakura running the village is way better than Naruto working alone on the kage's office and Sakura working on the hospital and/or perfoming ninja missions by herself.

 

The manga presented that couples always work together.

Actually , we don't know why Kushina let go of her dream of becoming Hokage. We could speculate that she was selfless and let that job be fulfilled by her husband, Minato. We can say that she loved him a lot and let him simply  become the  hokage , because that reverie they both shared. 

If you begin to argue with a SS fan he/she  will immediately point out that Sakura had a dream that was to be Sasuke's GF/bride and the additional ''i haven't lost hope that team 7 will be reunited and happy again''  , and no, she doesn't have a dream of supporting Naruto she wants to make it so , why? The only answer i have is, because she loves him. And you forget that its her trait of craving acknowledgment and the determination of getting stronger that Naruto has fallen in love with her which he shares with her , so i strongly believe that she will not quit her profession just like that.

Maybe for a little while , until the baby has grown . :roll:


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:19 PM

Actually, in road to ninja which is a movie that kishi wrote the plot line for, it seems that after Naruto was born and could take care of himself, kushina and Minato were going on missions as they were introduced with them coming back from a mission and also, they went on another mission with Naruto and Sakura. It's not canon but kishi did write the plot for it. It could show he had the intention of kushina continuing to be a ninja and doing missions after childbirth.

Yep but they were doing it together, Kushina wasnt perfoming missions by herself and most importantly Minato wasnt kage.

On RTN Minato and Kushina were a typical shinobi couple who always performed missions together.

THat's why doesnt make sense for Sakura to perform mission by herself when she's literally supposed to be working with Naruto running the village.

 

 

Actually , we don't know why Kushina let go of her dream of becoming Hokage. We could speculate that she was selfless and let that job be fulfilled by her husband, Minato. We can say that she loved him a lot and let him simply  become the  hokage , because that reverie they both shared. 

If you begin to argue with a SS fan he/she  will immediately point out that Sakura had a dream that was to be Sasuke's GF/bride and the additional ''i haven't lost hope that team 7 will be reunited and happy again''  , and no, she doesn't have a dream of supporting Naruto she wants to make it so , why? The only answer i have is, because she loves him. And you forget that its her trait of craving acknowledgment and the determination of getting stronger that Naruto has fallen in love with her , so i strongly believe that she will quit her profession just like that.

 

Yes i agree as we dont know if she let go her dream or not but on her last words to Minato she gives out the impression that the most important thing for her was that she was happy with her family and that was enough for her.

About quitting the profession the catch is that they will always despite being a couple they will be always  a ninja but the difference is that they wont perform ninja missions anymore but instead will work on running the village and as their job (Hokage and hokage's wife) to protect the village and administrate it together.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:26 PM

Yep but they was doing it together, Kushina wasnt perfoming missions by herself and most importantly Minato wasnt kage.

So you're saying that kushina could not perform missions on her own? Or that because minato is hokage she couldn't do missions on her own? Minato knew kushina is strong enough to handle herself and he would let her do what she wanted, whether that be to go on missions, or even become the teacher of a new set of genin students and go on missions with them. It's very unlike kushina's character to not do any missions and stay away from her ninja life after childbirth specially if kishi perceived it that way. Itachi did mention how it was kushina who helped minato become hokage but nothing in the future of minato becoming hokage was mentioned. Whether it was with minato or whether he was hokage shouldn't matter at all. That is honestly just your opinion on the topic and this is mine. It isn't fact that can be used against the possibility.
Also, from the most recent chapter, we can tell that it is shikamaru who is going to help naruto carry the village and make the decisions for him, he will be the helper that naruto wants and needs. Sakura could carry on as her own if she wanted to and it's up to debate. Nothing can be stated as fact.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:34 PM

Yep but they were doing it together, Kushina wasnt perfoming missions by herself and most importantly Minato wasnt kage.

On RTN Minato and Kushina were a typical shinobi couple who always performed missions together.

THat's why doesnt make sense for Sakura to perform mission by herself when she's literally supposed to be working with Naruto running the village.

 

 
 

Yes i agree as we dont know if she let go her dream or not but on her last words to Minato she gives out the impression that the most important thing for her was that she was happy with her family and that was enough for her.

About quitting the profession the catch is that they will always despite being a couple they will be always  a ninja but the difference is that they wont perform ninja missions anymore but instead will work on running the village and as their job (Hokage and hokage's wife) to protect the village and administrate it together.

 

I have to agree with the fact the circumstances were different, but still, it doesn't prove whether in the real world she quit before she got pregnant or not.



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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:35 PM

Yes i agree as we dont know if she let go her dream or not but on her last words to Minato she gives out the impression that the most important thing for her was that she was happy with her family and that was enough for her.

About quitting the profession the catch is that they will always despite being a couple they will be always  a ninja but the difference is that they wont perform ninja missions anymore but instead will work on running the village and as their job (Hokage and hokage's wife) to protect the village and administrate it together.

Well, yeah, but further than that we don't know, so we can't speculate that she just gave up. After all its stated in  both Sakura and Kushina's data books that they hate to loose , in other words, she doesn't quit -it ain't over till its over .

Hmm. Shizune was Tsunade's assistant,but she went on missions,right?

Even Minato had a clash vs A and Bee + some kumo ninjas.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:39 PM

Well, yeah, but further than that we don't know, so we can't speculate that she just gave up. After all its stated in  both Sakura and Kushina's data books that they hate to loose , in other words, she doesn't quit -it ain't over till its over .

Hmm. Shizune was Tsunade's assistant,but she went on missions,right?

Even Minato had a clash vs A and Bee + some kumo ninjas.


Also, kushina didn't seem to be with him on that mission meaning they weren't a couple that always went on missions together. It was just at certain times which this happend.

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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:44 PM

Well, yeah, but further than that we don't know, so we can't speculate that she just gave up. After all its stated in  both Sakura and Kushina's data books that they hate to loose , in other words, she doesn't quit -it ain't over till its over .

Hmm. Shizune was Tsunade's assistant,but she went on missions,right?

Even Minato had a clash vs A and Bee + some kumo ninjas.

I'm not sure on this but i never saw her doing missions on part 2, the only thing that can be close to it was on the war arc where she was charged with studying the zetsu bodies along with Sakura and before that she was in charge of some other things but i'm not sure.

 

And there's one that i remember but it was a filler of Sanbi's arc.

 

Minato did clash vs A and bee but it was before they were kage and they were on a war so it's understandable.

 

 

So you're saying that kushina could not perform missions on her own? Or that because minato is hokage she couldn't do missions on her own? Minato knew kushina is strong enough to handle herself and he would let her do what she wanted, whether that be to go on missions, or even become the teacher of a new set of genin students and go on missions with them. It's very unlike kushina's character to not do any missions and stay away from her ninja life after childbirth specially if kishi perceived it that way. Itachi did mention how it was kushina who helped minato become hokage but nothing in the future of minato becoming hokage was mentioned. Whether it was with minato or whether he was hokage shouldn't matter at all. That is honestly just your opinion on the topic and this is mine. It isn't fact that can be used against the possibility.
Also, from the most recent chapter, we can tell that it is shikamaru who is going to help naruto carry the village and make the decisions for him, he will be the helper that naruto wants and needs. Sakura could carry on as her own if she wanted to and it's up to debate. Nothing can be stated as fact.

 

Also this is speculation just like all the post inclusive mine are also doing, Kushina ofc can perform missions but when on terms that she's the kage's wife, when she stated that she was happy and that was enough, and more importantly why she would risk her life for some extra money when they dont even need it.
In all even my post is speculating we have zero infor about that and being logical there's no need or even necessity for her to continue perfoming missions on her own when her duty as the kage's wife is to protect the village.

 

And most important we dont even know what is going to happen with the shinobi world and if we still gonna have missions of Rank S or Rank A.

 

 

Also, kushina didn't seem to be with him on that mission meaning they weren't a couple that always went on missions together. It was just at certain times which this happend.

 

Probably but it's speculation anyway we dont know if they were married by that time and there's the fact it was a war.

But recently the manga hinted they used to fight together many times, but it's still speculation since we dont even know when they started dating and they lived on a war time.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:45 PM

Also, kushina didn't seem to be with him on that mission meaning they weren't a couple that always went on missions together. It was just at certain times which this happend.

Yup, we simply lack information , so we can't voice a clear opinion that she just stopped.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 06:58 PM

I'm not sure on this but i never saw her doing missions on part 2, the only thing that can be close to it was on the war arc where she was charged with studying the zetsu bodies along with Sakura and before that she was in charge of some other things but i'm not sure.

 

And there's one that i remember but it was a filler of Sanbi's arc.

 

Minato did clash vs A and bee but it was before they were kage and they were on a war so it's understandable.

 

Yeah, part 2 was given more attention on Naruto and Sakura's bond + defeating the Akatsuki and Sasuke's drifting in darkness. More than that , well, as you said in the war arc she gets screen/panel time.

In the Anime xD.

Hm... i don't know if they were a couple back then, nothing showed us otherwise. After all , he didn't wore a ring xD.


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Posted 06 October 2013 - 07:07 PM

It's out this Tuesday, right?




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