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[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's the same thing as with 615, ppl panic and then they read the ch. again or Slex's compilation, or RTN comes out and then they come back. This chapter does not change as much as ppl think. There are just too may inconsistencies. Besides, I'm pretty sure he has done this thing before, for example, during the first Team 7 reunion Sasuke claimed that he didn't care about giving his body up to Orochimaru. Then he assimilated Orochimaru. Something about 627 just seemed off, I sense a plot twist in the future.

Unless if Kishimoto wants Sasuke to have autism but personally, hoping for plot twists, just shows how bad Naruto became.

[六道仙人]

Lol care to share some?

I have still to think on well...

Anyway about Karin... I know that you're just disguted about her behavior as fangirl after all bad things that Sasuke did to her...
But you know, after crazy Sasuke stabbed her, he said that he wasn't the same Sasuke that she used to know. His chakra was cold and wicked. Might be that now she's joining him so easily because, thanks to her sensing skills, she sensed that Sasuke's chakra isn't the same as that time when he stabbed her?

[Dkey]

While I myself didn't like this chapter initially, I can't believe half the things I'm reading in this thread. Some people are jumping to conclusions WAY too early. Do you people seriously believe that Sasuke has been permanently redeemed at this point, given all the foreshadowing and explicit development towards Naruto fighting Sasuke in a finale to determine the future of the Shinobi world? Kishi's capable of asspulls, but even he isn't capable of destroying one of the most important aspects of the entire story. And I'm calling it right now, Orochimaru has without a doubt a hidden agenda, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if he turns out to be the final villain within the entire series, given his timely revival and his questionable current behavior. People seriously need to stop overreacting and have some patience for future plot events

^^this

Although my first reaction when I saw this chapter was of bewilderment after some thought It isn't that much of an asspull. Why?

Well from the start we have been eluded to a Naruto vs. Sasuke confrontation but things did get in their way. Like world peace Akatsuki and Madara's plan. But this arc will conclude all of Madara's plan and ganging up to defeat him isn't something that far fetched to begin with.

As for the NaruSakuSasu love triangle, there's gonna be some interaction because every time Sasuke is involved it's either Sasuke vs. Naruto or the love triangle. Though Sakura running to Tsunade to save her can spare her from a reunion and thus prolong the drama.

The thing that irked me was, and still does a bit, Naruto's lack of interaction in Sasuke decision. So right now I only Sasuke as going to help the war because he doesn't want to forgive and forget about Itachi and the village ( so he still bears old grudges).

Karin is meh.. If she forgave him for what he did fine by me if she is plotting something we will see in due time. Thou I think Kishi wants Karin to stay close to Sasuke. Even if her reaction to Sasuke's decision her presence in this chapter still would've shown this.

As for Orochimaru. Well he is an oddball and felt like he is a plot device. Sasuke couldn't ressurect the Kages so he resurrected Orochimaru. And him following. I don't know the damn snake confuses everything

Edited by Dkey, 10 April 2013 - 10:06 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

The difference is that the plot is going downhill and this is not the only place who's discussing how bad Naruto become.

The plot may be going downhill and Naruto's general quality may've gone down, but this thread has essentially become inane, infantile, with the pretense to hold a civil conversation without going into a hissy fit tossed out of the window, into a catapult, launched into Mount Doom which then erupts it and launches it into the sky with such force that it escapes Earth's gravity, past Jupiter, and out of our Solar System.

While Crimson may have posted with the intention to troll (not saying he is or isn't), he's right. This chapter was essentially the final straw and all these bad feelings are being vomited into the thread.

Which bad feelings you may ask?

Pairing issues
Character Issues
Plot Issues
Naruto Issues
Kishi's writing issues
Issues' Issues.

It's a potpourri of complaints about everything. I feel like the mods should close it down for 1-2 days to get everyone to chill the fudge out.

[Shadow1275]

Unless if Kishimoto wants Sasuke to have autism but personally, hoping for plot twists, just shows how bad Naruto became.

Depends on your definition of bad. I agree with you that if this is how it ends up where Sasuke is redeemed already then the series has taken a turn for the worst. However, if a plot twist does come would that change your mind? We know how powerful Hashirama is and how he cannot be controlled. Idk, maybe not to everybody but to me it just seemed like that whole lets all be friends thing seemed really forced. Lets not forget that Orochimaru killed the third hokage and tried to steal Sasuke's body. I think he is still an X factor. And Suigetsu wanted to ditch them anyways but he couldn't.

Edited by Shadow1275, 10 April 2013 - 10:08 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I have still to think on well...

Anyway about Karin... I know that you're just disguted about her behavior as fangirl after all bad things that Sasuke did to her...
But you know, after crazy Sasuke stabbed her, he said that he wasn't the same Sasuke that she used to know. His chakra was cold and wicked. Might be that now she's joining him so easily because, thanks to her sensing skills, she sensed that Sasuke's chakra isn't the same as that time when he stabbed her?

Well it think it's something related to the fact she has nowhere to go besides Sasuke, if she attacks him she would die, Suigetsu and also Juugo too clingy to Sasuke and now even Orochimaru, for some reason everything now revolves around Sasuke even the plot itself.
I think he turned it comic because maybe it wasnt a type of scene to have dramas.

Which bad feelings you may ask?

Pairing issues
Character Issues
Plot Issues
Naruto Issues
Kishi's writing issues
Issues' Issues.

here's my answer.
There's nothing to do with pairings.

I always said that Sasuke had no reason to pursue revenge agaisnt the village, but still the way it was and his hatred suddenly all didnt existed ignoring that his character was hatred driven during the whole story, i believed he would pursue peace on a different way but looks like he went with the "will of fire", i believed he would seek in power the answer to peace but it didnt happened.

Naruto is probably going to be saved by Sasuke and the kages will come on a DEUS EX MACHINA situation.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 April 2013 - 10:15 PM.

[narusakuluv]

I can't seem to comprehend why such a great number of you NS fans are suddenly abandoning your beloved pairing because of an unrelated chapter such as this. Sakura regressing back into her fangirl state and going over to Sasuke? What happened to all your confidence that Sakura was starting to develop away from Sasuke? She and Karin are two distinct characters with different sets of personalities and development. Karin still fawning over Sasuke (as most expected) does not in any way correlate with Sakura not eventually getting over her idealistic love for him.

I expected more from this fanbase, and frankly this is simply pathetic.

Agreed. Honestly, Sakura hardly fangirled over Sasuke in any excessive kind of way in the second half of Part 1. Most of the fangirling happened before she even cut her hair. The anime made it seem like she was all over him all the time, but she really wasn't. She was just acting the way a normal adolescent girl does when she has a crush. Meanwhile, Karin was fully grown when we saw her actually fangirling over Sasuke. At one point she even stole his sweaty clothes. She displayed a level of creepiness Sakura has only shown in bad fanfictions where people like to bash her.
So because Karin who clearly had an unhealthy infatuation with Sasuke to begin with forgave him and loves him again, clearly Sakura must as well? The lack of faith in our heroine is disturbing.

[Shadow1275]

Well it think it's something related to the fact she has nowhere to go besides Sasuke, if she attacks him she would die, Suigetsu and also Juugo too clingy to Sasuke and now even Orochimaru, for some reason everything now revolves around Sasuke even the plot itself.
I think he turned it comic because maybe it wasnt a type of scene to have dramas.

Exactly, something felt off that entire chapter.

[Verilance]

It is really funny to me to read all the despair here and it strikes me as the opposite of a One Piece forum I go too from time to time...

In my opinion Oda has written absolute drek since the time skip, to me it is ike he is mailing it in...

but at the forum it is like anything Oda writes is a gift from on high

contrarily I have actually been enjoying Naruto in the same time period and everywhere I go people write how bad Kishimoto is a writing.

[Zatheko]

Just read the chapter and well, I'm not really worried for NaruSaku yet. The one thing that does worry me is Sasuke stealing the spotlight from Naruto in the war, I swear if kishi makes Sasuke be the one to defeat them....

But nevermind that, I feel this chapter kind of leaves something open for SasuKarin (which I do support) but well see I guess.

I agree with the people who said Sasuke did redeem to easily, it really happened way to fast.

[六道仙人]

Good luck, this manga is now a lottery, in terms of where it will end up.

He's predicable, you know... What makes you think that he's so difficult to guess?
-We knew that Sasuke would become good. No matter how, but it still would become. The way in which he became good made us upset, I get it... but the gist is the same: Sasuke became good just as we expected.
-We knew that Karin just escaped from the prison only for a reason: Joining the team taka at later time. She did. Most of all us just didn't like the fact tha she's still pathetic after all what Sasuke done to her. But... is Karin, she's not Sakura (like Sakura isn't Hinata or Ino).
-Some time ago I thought it would be Hashirama, once he came back to life in someway, the one who would deal with Edo Madara. I was sure that after Madara himself states "Only Hashirama can stop me right now." The I became certain of that after Sasuke revived Orochimaru because he wanted to see "those bastards" and from a Kishimoto's interview in last summer ("Some characters that initially were'nt planned will make their appearance forward!").

and then there's even more... Surely his choices will make us angry but he's still predictable. After all, he IS NOT GOda.

Hopefully that you understand what I tried to put here...^^

Edited by 六道仙人, 10 April 2013 - 10:21 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

He's predicable, you know... What makes you thinks that he's so difficult to guess?
-We knew that Sasuke would become good. No matter how, but it still would become. The way in which he became good made us upset, I get it... but the gist is the same: Sasuke became good just as we expected.
-We knew that Karin just escaped from the prison only for a reason: Joining the team taka at later time. She did. Most of all us just didn't like the fact tha she's still pathetic after all what Sasuke done to her. But... is Karin, she's not Sakura (like Sakura isn't Hinata or Ino).
-Some time ago I thought it would be Hashirama, once he came back to life in someway, the one who would deal with Edo Madara. I was sure that after Madara himself states "Only Hashirama can stop right now." The I became certain of that after Sasuke revived Orochimaru because he wanted to see "those bastards" and from a Kishimoto's interview in last summer ("Some characters that initially were'nt planned will make their appearance forward!").

and then there's even more... Surely his choices will make us angry but he's still predictable. After all, he IS NOT GOda.

Hopefully that you understand what I tried to put here...^^

The worst part is that you only notice after the bad stuff happened.

[六道仙人]

The worst part is that you only notice after the bad stuff happened.

were you speaking about me or in general?

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

were you speaking about me or in general?

i'm talking about Kishimoto.
I feel that NS is going to be canon but the story...

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 10 April 2013 - 10:25 PM.

[六道仙人]

i'm talking about Kishimoto.
I feel that NS is going to be canon but the story...

It depends from all our tastes anyway... But I still don't consider all this "crap" at the same level as that's mastercrap of Nagato and his Gedou Rinne tensei/Dragon balls' Dragon.... But I feel that Kishi will do this again after Obito's redemption (because it will happen, the true purpose about Minato's going there isn't only to meet his son but to find out that the masked man was a his pupil. That's why Minato still said nothing in this meeting with Sasuke. Kishi saved him for later on the battlefield).

[harry4e]

Worst thing is, with the Four Hokages, Sasuke, Orichimaru and team Taku now joining the frey it's possible that Madara will be defeated soon, and we'll get the second half of this flashback very soon showing us what happened after Hashirama defeated him. I don't want another freaking flashback, we've had two in recent months alread, I am freaking tired of freaking flashbacks, ever since this war started we've had B and his childhood friends flashback, Naruto''s birth flashback, A and B's flashback, Itachi's flashback, Kabuto's flashback, Obito's flashback and ofcourse Hashirama's flashback.that is waay too many flashback scenes. I know we'll get Madara's flashback soon which hopefully is the last one, unless the Juubi will get his flashback and we'll find out what happenned with the rikkuden..actually that would be pretty cool.

[Arachnia]

i'm talking about Kishimoto.
I feel that NS is going to be canon but the story...

i got a feeling its gonna be NH in end sure it would be great if its NS but doubt it.
for example i was hoping on Naruto Sasuke clash but WoW i was wrong its now gonna be like this

naruto: sasuke!?
Sakura:Sasuke <3
Sasuke: yo naruto stop being a idiot and fight them stop slacking.
Sasuke: yo sakura chill

i can see it now sasuke is gonna act all cool like nothing happend and is gonna be WOW again
i would bet on it.

oh forgot
Hinata:wow this worked out great xD

[Qia]

So this is basically Sasuke, summed up in this chapter:


This is a joke from Tumblr, but hopefully it lightens everyone's mood. If it doesn't then you can't say I didn't try. Give me a gold star at least.

Edited by Qia, 10 April 2013 - 10:32 PM.

[HuntTheWill]

It's sad to see that Naruto's character has seemingly little point anymore and Sasuke has taken Naruto's original role as the motivator of anyone. All in one chapter.

But there is nothing left to do but stick it out and see how the manga goes. Although I'm sure either Sasuke or Orochimaru will try to use the Infinite Tsukuyomi for their own goals at some point during or after the battle.

But if the manga continues at the same pace as this last chapter, the series should be over in a month and a half.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

So this is basically Sasuke, summed up in this chapter:


This is a joke from Tumblr, but hopefully it lightens everyone's mood. If it doesn't then you can't say I didn't try. Give me a gold star at least.

That's actually been Sasuke's thing from the start. See how easily he became Orochimaru's bitc- I mean, "apprentice," to becoming Tobi's bitc-, I mean "subordinate" then he switched back to Orochimaru, now he's with the Zomkages.

Seriously, all you need to do is feed Sasuke some story and toss in Uchiha and Itachi a number of times and he's on you like Bieber fans on Justin Bieber.