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#361 Chucky-kun

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:12 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 20 2012, 08:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay you know what. I am tired of reading these posts on the forum so I am drawing the line right now.

@NS fans who are telling the other not to worry
Shut up. Let them worry if they want to. They have the right to voice their opinion if they want to. I am not worried, but if they want to worry and feel threatened let them. I know, thinking like this leads to miscommunication and mis-reading what Kishimoto is trying to say or do or whatever. The facts don't look good in NS favor and yes Hinata is getting a lot of screen time. That is true and we can't deny that. I won't be blind to the truth and facts of this manga, but there is another truth to it and I will get to that.

@Worried NS fans.
Look, to be honest, you have a right to be worried and voice your opinion, but spreading negativity and claiming like it is the end of the manga/shipping is not doing you any good. Is 614 the end of the manga? Is 615 the end of the manga? Oh stop with the "We're trying to be realistic" attitudes please. If you really want to have a realistic viewing then you will say that yes Hinata is getting screentime, but this isn't the end. You have no clue what is going to happen in the up coming chapters and while we are coming to an end to the manga we are not there yet. Anything can happen still at this point. Will still have to have the Naruto vs Sasuke fight, do you really think Sakura is going to be left out during that moment? If you think the focus is about Team 7, then yes Sakura will play a part.

I am not worried myself. Did these chapters irk me? Yes, but not for the same reasons. I am irked because it feels like pointless drama with Hinata who once again not only has no development, but still stuck as this bleh character. Even with no focus on her, I still think Sakura is a better character and the history of the manga shows this. We can't ignore all that because of everything that has happened in the last few chapters.

I guarantee that if/when Sakura gets more focus in the up coming chapters, we will all be laughing at how worried people were, but please stop the negativity. We already got stress from the NH fans and their crazy conspiracy theories, we don't need that here. Yeah you can have your theories and be worried and wonder if Kishi is being a good writer, but it's not helping to spread negativity and that is what is pissing people off the most.

Regardless of "the facts," I am remaining positive. I am going to remain positive to the end and like how I can't fault you for wanting to be worried, you can't fault me for wanting to stay true to my feelings. I will keep the hope alive even through the storm. If NaruSaku is true then nothing can phase it. Not Sasuke and not Hinata. The best part about a true love relationship is that is can survive anything.

I am sorry if I offend anyone with what I have said, but come on. We are NS fans. We are not going to have a civil war with each other. Not if I can help it.

This, but i was saying people should stop overeacting. It was okay to doubt, but people who were abandoning all hope were going a tad overboard.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:15 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Dec 19 2012, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wanna know a_spaz.gif After all, I think I was the one saying I was trying to be realistic.

With that, I mean, I think Kishi is trying to give NH fanservice, to squeeze it in the end. I wasn't worried that NS would not happen, I just don't like that way of writing.


Alright. Now keep in mind as I mentioned, this is how the posts give off the impression. Whether or the not the members themselves really feel well...it's up to them. I am merely point out that the impression believe they have is not the impression people put out.

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 09:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
right now things are not doing so well for NS and worse for Sakura character, You can compere NS and Yamato currents status in the Manga, there isn't any difference.


This is an example. Not to pick on you Don, but it is one of the first I saw. "Not doing so well for NS," Really? How? Actually Don-Kun, despite what you have said in the previous post, you yourself have provoked some controversy.

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 02:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Kishi really trolling the NH fandom?
Neji just die and Kishi use the chance to have Neji make a comment about his cousin feelings for Naruto in a disguise way, he never said hinata me and all the others, he said his ex-self and Hinata, meaning that Naruto should notice Hinata more, who cares about the blond feelings according to Kiba and Neji he should pay more attention to Hinata.

So Honestly It doesn't look that way to me, until Naruto and Sakura get the spotlight again, he ask her to remember her friends or Hinata notice that she is been way to obsessive with Naruto and because of that she completely ignore the others allowing Neji die I will say that NH right now has way more chances than NaruSaku, not because it has more build up or Naruto is starting to looking at Hinata in a different way, it's because Kishi is forcing NH on the readers.
I was OK with the focus shared with all the Rookies, but the focus is on Team 10 and Hinata.
In the end, if there isn't anything for Hinata to reflect on, then NH will be force down her throat rather we want to acknowledge it or keep ignoring it is up to us.


Remember this? And people have responded to you in a fashion on how I have to the generalized public.

QUOTE (Eclair @ Dec 19 2012, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The only thing that worries me is that kishi will use these opportunities to make Naruto see Hinata in a different light. Because it just seems like kishimoto is not making it clear if Naruto still loves Sakura, and Naruto's having more screen time with Hinata than with Sakura.


More tame, but still. It is close to pushing people over that edge and any more Hinata focus could give that push.

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Dec 19 2012, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So much rage. o: Over something so silly? xD You can go post what you want. At least my complaints are legitimate while you're acting like a big baby because people are acknowledging that NaruHina might have a chance. I understand, NaruSaku is your life but it's not like that for everyone else. Calling others "So called NaruSaku fans" just because they have some doubt(which isn't even bad) is immature and ignorant. Grow up.

I would show some of your posts but I don't even remember who you are. xD Nor do I care who you are.


This post is just disgusting all together.

QUOTE (Kamina-Yoshi @ Dec 18 2012, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I stopped actively reading Naruto sometime around when Jiraiya died, and after hearing that there was another death of an important character I decided to read up to the current point of the manga (as of the 18th of December), and so far the manga has only progressively lost its main focus within a blur of terrible fandom pandering (Hinata and Naruto, Sakura still loving Sasuke), the apparent uselessness of most of the fights except for the only sake of having them, and the hitting of the "Power Ceiling"*, as I would like to call it, with the apparent Big Boss of the manga. Most of the characters seem like they're simply used like fan-fictions would use them, to propel one character to a certain point without having the characters themselves be any more than pairing fuel or simply fan-pleasing eye-candy/fanguish (a la recently killed character whom I will not name due to spoiler reasons). Whatever happened to the old Naruto I knew, where Ninja's fought as Ninja's would? What happened to the Fire Ball Jutsu's, the Punching and the Kicking and the Combo's that would require actually physically approaching the enemy at a normal speed instead of Mach Instant Transmission 3? What happened to the character development that Kishimoto wanted to write for the main pairing that has, since the last time I have read, been side-lined and almost completely obliterated by an on-slaught of pandering to a clearly lesser one in a way that would make J.K. Rowling look subtle?


Then we have this one which is it's own thread entirely.

See this is just the ball rolling. It is not even in full force yet and it seems like unless Sakura gets more screen time next chapter, this ball will continue to roll and pick up more speed.

Just a disclaimer: I am not trying to say someone is stupid or humiliate them. Not trying to poke fun or say they have no right to an opinion. On the contrary, if anyone says I am then you read my message wrong.

I am only putting these up to prove that this has become an issue and to stop it before it goes into a full blown uproar.

If everyone knows that this is nothing and that NaruHina is not going to happen, then you don't need to put these kind of sentences in the posts. Opinion or not, this gives off the wrong impression and the reactions to the posts speak for themselves on how they are delivered.

By the way, this is just some examples, not all of them.

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This, but i was saying people should stop overeacting. It was okay to doubt, but people who were abandoning all hope were going a tad overboard.


Yeah. That's why I am trying to say what I am saying. I am just trying to say "calm down." Overreacting seems to be a problem around here. Yeah, I do it too, but not as often. Again, can't speak for everyone else. Not trying to speak for everyone else.

I just...just don't want to see members give up hope or try to make others give up hope. It's not necessary.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:36 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 19 2012, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You're missing the point entirely. I can't explain it any clearer than I have.

No, no one has announced "This is the end of NS" exactly, but half of you are behaving like it is. Some of have even said "Maybe NH is the choice pairing." I've read that at least twice now in this thread. And no, you're not reconsidering where NH stands, you're reconsidering where Kishi is taking the manga and implying that NH is the main canon pairing. I can read it clearly in the posts that people make in past 2-3 pages.

Then not only that, but when another person whether me or someone else gives notion that a person is overreacting and cites everything that has happened in the manga to back up their claim it gets shot down with negativity.

"Kishi has lost focus in the manga. He doesn't know what he is writing about. I thought he was trying to make Sakura a heroine." That has more or less been the topic for the past 3 pages. And you know, people can deny this and say "No, no we are not trying to do that." Well your posts say different. Go back and read them again. Half of it is negativity and criticizing the other half of the NS fanbase saying that we can't ignore the facts because of our pairing choice. What if I said "I am not ignoring the facts, I am just staying positive."

Let me ask you this, if you all are just "reconsidering" where NH stands, but still think NS is the choice pairing, then why are all you panicking? Why so much negativity that many members are posting?

If they are not trying to be negative, that's not the impression the posts are giving off.


I personally have not stated that Kishi has lost his focus, but I have wondered where he's going with this. I don't believe Hinata's current focus will affect very much in the future, but in future, if Kishi did ever decide out of nowhere to make NH canon, although these particular scenes aren't NH directly, he could more easily pull it out of his lower half.

Even if Hinata gets more focus now, what is written is written. NS already has way too much focus in the past, taking a new direction would be too hard. But if Kishi decides he will being to input more into the possibility of NH, will be be in denial of Kishi taking a new direction? (I don't believe he is right now, other characters are getting more focus, but Hinata has had enough already)

Just like I'd like for people to stop being critical of people questioning their personal beliefs about their pairing, people shouldn't fight so hard to destroy people who have hope. My hope is not swayed in the least, but I'm also not criticizing people for being so worried right now and I'm not really complaining about people who still believe because I'm one of them, I'm just annoyed that people are polarizing the issue, you either blindly believe with absolute no doubt whatsoever or else you're just worrying and overreacting too much.

If it seems like I personally am being negative, that's not my intention at all and I'm sure others don't want to bring others down, but this is the place for NS fans to discuss things going on, everything isn't always rainbows and juicy popsicle sticks. Claiming NS is over is overreacting and something I expect from die hard fans, but also claiming there's nothing to worry about ever is also being a blind die hard fan. I'm just saying some people are going to be negative, and if you have confidence in your pairing and your belief, that shouldn't bother some people as much as it does, it just makes it look like they're in denial.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:43 PM

James you know what is a rabbit a biased fan, the ones that will look on Sakura thinking about Sasuke 540 but saying that Sakura loves Naruto and not Sasuke, the one who knows that Naruto loves Sakura but still refuse the obvious, the ones that knows that Sakura has shown a larger affection to Naruto than any of the other pairing and deny it, the one who refuse to acknowledge when Kishi is giving focus to NH, and the worst fans are the ones that say that X character will never be with Y character since they are fan and also Kishimoto is disguise.

Yes I now what I said and it's because I acknowledge what is going on in the Manga, while I also stated that if this is not meant to be a reflection for Hinata tunnel vision mind when it comes to Naruto or Sakura and Naruto doesn't have anymore moment then it's obvious to believe that NH right now is looking better than NS.

Two key words I use If and right know. I didn't say it will happen I said that If it continues that way them Kishi might force NH on us with out any build up while ignoring Naruto's feelings for Sakura.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 11:50 PM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James you know what is a rabbit a biased fan, the ones that will look on Sakura thinking about Sasuke 540 but saying that Sakura loves Naruto and not Sasuke, the one who knows that Naruto loves Sakura but still refuse the obvious, the ones that knows that Sakura has shown a larger affection to Naruto than any of the other pairing and deny it, the one who refuse to acknowledge when Kishi is giving focus to NH, and the worst fans are the ones that say that X character will never be with Y character since they are fan and also Kishimoto is disguise.

Yes I now what I said and it's because I acknowledge what is going on in the Manga, while I also stated that if this is not meant to be a reflection for Hinata tunnel vision mind when it comes to Naruto or Sakura and Naruto doesn't have anymore moment then it's obvious to believe that NH right now is looking better than NS.

Two key words I use If and right know. I didn't say it will happen I said that If it continues that way them Kishi might force NH on us with out any build up while ignoring Naruto's feelings for Sakura.

I feel like i've had this conversation somwhere..... anyways, nothing in 540 regarding sakura and sasuke had dialogue, so that chapter is open to interpretation.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:08 AM

Okay, I have a small theory about NaruHina and I would like to hear your opinions on it:

In the next chapter or sometime really soon, Hinata and Naruto are going to hold hands. Hinata is going to reach out her hand and Naruto is going to take it. Or vice versa, Naruto reaches out and Hinata takes his hand. (Duh.) This will confirm or strongly hint that NaruHina is/will be canon.

The hand-holding is simple and quick way to make NaruHina happen. It's not overly romantic like a kiss would be, which fits Kishi's writing style. It's still intimate act and excites every NaruHina shipper, yet other shippers like NS supporters could still excuse that moment as platonic and hold out hope for their own pairings. Big shipping moment, yet ambiguous. It also fits Hinata's toughts in chapter 573 as she says that she will be next to Naruto, holding his hand. As of this chapter, she's literally next to him. Holding hands with Naruto would show the readers that Hinata has achieved her goal. Naruto either offering his hand or taking her hand would for the first time ever indicate that he might have feelings for her. Especially so if he blushes while doing it (sorry, only way I can phrase it.) I have no toughts on why they might hold hands, maybe to show unity in front of Obito and Madara, taking strength in each other. Or to comfort each other since Neji went and kicked the bucket?

Now, I don't think this will definately happen. It's just a thought I had and it hasn't left me alone, so I figured I'd share it. If it comes true, I get to brag. If it doesn't, not a big deal. Can't lose. happy.gif

Anyway, my gut feeling in general is that NaruHina will be resolved sooner rather than later. Either it will become canon or it will crash and burn. The end is approaching, and Kishi seems to be wrapping up storylines (like Neji's in this chapter). I can't really see Hinata having anything to do with the upcoming Sasuke confrontation. Right now, she is in the picture, however. She's been featured quite a bit in the latests chapters. She's been by Naruto's side ever since she arrived. Both Neji and Kiba brought her up in their convos with Naruto. Now would be a good time to wrap up her storyline, either by making NaruHina canon or destroying it via NaruSaku.

That's all. Sorry to drop in and then disappear.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James you know what is a rabbit a biased fan, the ones that will look on Sakura thinking about Sasuke 540 but saying that Sakura loves Naruto and not Sasuke, the one who knows that Naruto loves Sakura but still refuse the obvious, the ones that knows that Sakura has shown a larger affection to Naruto than any of the other pairing and deny it, the one who refuse to acknowledge when Kishi is giving focus to NH, and the worst fans are the ones that say that X character will never be with Y character since they are fan and also Kishimoto is disguise.

Yes I now what I said and it's because I acknowledge what is going on in the Manga, while I also stated that if this is not meant to be a reflection for Hinata tunnel vision mind when it comes to Naruto or Sakura and Naruto doesn't have anymore moment then it's obvious to believe that NH right now is looking better than NS.

Two key words I use If and right know. I didn't say it will happen I said that If it continues that way them Kishi might force NH on us with out any build up while ignoring Naruto's feelings for Sakura.


*sighs and pinches my nose*

I'm tired and have a headache. Plus I am leaving tomorrow early. I have said what I needed to say and you can think what you want. I don't feel like explaining myself more cause I don't think you understand what I am trying to say. So, I am just going to say: re-read my posts.

Both of you.

One thing though. I know what a rabid biased fan is (Not sure what a rabbit biased fan is. Is it rabbits who are biased fans or fans that are biased on rabbits? tongue.gif), but I am not talking about them. As I said, just because a member wants to stay positive does not mean they are biased or ignorant of facts. If I didn't know any better I would say you might be calling me a biased fan. Luckily I do know better. Ifs and Right nows...let me put this way.

Right now you are not a saying NH is canon, but if you continue the way you are making posts and what you type in them in this negative fashion you will force people to counter you without any understanding of what you are saying and will force negative emotions on the group while ignoring the interest of the other members.

Just be careful with what you post. You can say all the facts you want, but negativity causes problems

Edited by James S Cassidy, 20 December 2012 - 12:22 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:29 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 20 2012, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, I have a small theory about NaruHina and I would like to hear your opinions on it:

In the next chapter or sometime really soon, Hinata and Naruto are going to hold hands. Hinata is going to reach out her hand and Naruto is going to take it. Or vice versa, Naruto reaches out and Hinata takes his hand. (Duh.) This will confirm or strongly hint that NaruHina is/will be canon.

The hand-holding is simple and quick way to make NaruHina happen. It's not overly romantic like a kiss would be, which fits Kishi's writing style. It's still intimate act and excites every NaruHina shipper, yet other shippers like NS supporters could still excuse that moment as platonic and hold out hope for their own pairings. Big shipping moment, yet ambiguous. It also fits Hinata's toughts in chapter 573 as she says that she will be next to Naruto, holding his hand. As of this chapter, she's literally next to him. Holding hands with Naruto would show the readers that Hinata has achieved her goal. Naruto either offering his hand or taking her hand would for the first time ever indicate that he might have feelings for her. Especially so if he blushes while doing it (sorry, only way I can phrase it.) I have no toughts on why they might hold hands, maybe to show unity in front of Obito and Madara, taking strength in each other. Or to comfort each other since Neji went and kicked the bucket?

Now, I don't think this will definately happen. It's just a thought I had and it hasn't left me alone, so I figured I'd share it. If it comes true, I get to brag. If it doesn't, not a big deal. Can't lose. happy.gif

Anyway, my gut feeling in general is that NaruHina will be resolved sooner rather than later. Either it will become canon or it will crash and burn. The end is approaching, and Kishi seems to be wrapping up storylines (like Neji's in this chapter). I can't really see Hinata having anything to do with the upcoming Sasuke confrontation. Right now, she is in the picture, however. She's been featured quite a bit in the latests chapters. She's been by Naruto's side ever since she arrived. Both Neji and Kiba brought her up in their convos with Naruto. Now would be a good time to wrap up her storyline, either by making NaruHina canon or destroying it via NaruSaku.

That's all. Sorry to drop in and then disappear.




I don't think it has to even look romantic whatsoever...but I agree with the possible hand holding...It would be a good way to do her character development...but I would hope that it ends with Narusaku....cuse I just can't picture Naruto suddenly in love with Hinata out of the clear blue sky... ermm.gif and I think it would be a shame to Neji it use his death as some kind of shipping fuel.... shamefulcry0js.gif

I don't think Kishi has ever used the death of a character to make a pairing canon before...and I don't think he will start doing that.

But...I like the idea of them *maybe* holding hands and standing up together...but after that...I really hope we get some proper Heroine focus... sakura.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 06:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
James you know what is a rabbit a biased fan, the ones that will look on Sakura thinking about Sasuke 540 but saying that Sakura loves Naruto and not Sasuke, the one who knows that Naruto loves Sakura but still refuse the obvious, the ones that knows that Sakura has shown a larger affection to Naruto than any of the other pairing and deny it, the one who refuse to acknowledge when Kishi is giving focus to NH, and the worst fans are the ones that say that X character will never be with Y character since they are fan and also Kishimoto is disguise.

Yes I now what I said and it's because I acknowledge what is going on in the Manga, while I also stated that if this is not meant to be a reflection for Hinata tunnel vision mind when it comes to Naruto or Sakura and Naruto doesn't have anymore moment then it's obvious to believe that NH right now is looking better than NS.

Two key words I use If and right know. I didn't say it will happen I said that If it continues that way them Kishi might force NH on us with out any build up while ignoring Naruto's feelings for Sakura.

Same thoughts.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:39 AM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Dec 20 2012, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*sighs and pinches my nose*

I'm tired and have a headache. Plus I am leaving tomorrow early. I have said what I needed to say and you can think what you want. I don't feel like explaining myself more cause I don't think you understand what I am trying to say. So, I am just going to say: re-read my posts.

Both of you.

One thing though. I know what a rabid biased fan is (Not sure what a rabbit biased fan is. Is it rabbits who are biased fans or fans that are biased on rabbits? tongue.gif), but I am not talking about them. As I said, just because a member wants to stay positive does not mean they are biased or ignorant of facts. If I didn't know any better I would say you might be calling me a biased fan. Luckily I do know better. Ifs and Right nows...let me put this way.

Right now you are not a saying NH is canon, but if you continue the way you are making posts and what you type in them in this negative fashion you will force people to counter you without any understanding of what you are saying and will force negative emotions on the group while ignoring the interest of the other members.

Just be careful with what you post. You can say all the facts you want, but negativity causes problems

james go take a break man, you've earned it. Some people just won't listen lol.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:47 AM

QUOTE (KeikoxYusuke @ Dec 20 2012, 01:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think it has to even look romantic whatsoever...but I agree with the possible hand holding...It would be a good way to do her character development...but I would hope that it ends with Narusaku....cuse I just can't picture Naruto suddenly in love with Hinata out of the clear blue sky... ermm.gif and I think it would be a shame to Neji it use his death as some kind of shipping fuel.... shamefulcry0js.gif

I don't think Kishi has ever used the death of a character to make a pairing canon before...and I don't think he will start doing that.

But...I like the idea of them *maybe* holding hands and standing up together...but after that...I really hope we get some proper Heroine focus... sakura.gif

I wonder how Sakura will react..the rest of the rookies as well.

I think she'll react the same way she did when she found out Hinata's feelings for Naruto. And one reason they might hold hands can be that Hinata has a breakdown and can't get up - Naruto takes out his hand and lifts her up. Then he says something heroic, then we can hope for a Hinata development.

If this happens, NH fans will entitle their pairing as "the true pairing". That is not what bothers me, the Sakura bashing will get even worse. I will admit, that I care about people's opinion of her. I want her to have the respect she deserves, you know. :3

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:52 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Dec 20 2012, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wonder how Sakura will react..

This is something I thought about as well. If Naruto and Hinata will hold hands, Sakura's reaction could be very telling. If she looks sad, angry, jealous or anything like that, there is still hope for NaruSaku. If, on the other hand, she smiles and looks at them all happy... well, that might be it for NS. All speculation at this point, of course. Might never even happen.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:59 AM

Once upon a time, we NS fans envisioned scenarios where NS would come to fruition. These, were peaceful and joyous times. Then, everything changed when the Juubi attacked. Now, these so-called NS fans imagine life, where NH is canon and Narusaku development is neglected and forgotten. What happened to those days where we did not give up and simply ignored the blasphemy that spouted from NH.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:02 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 19 2012, 09:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Once upon a time, we NS fans envisioned scenarios where NS would come to fruition. These, were peaceful and joyous times. Then, everything changed when the Juubi attacked. Now, these so-called NS fans imagine life, where NH is canon and Narusaku development is neglected and forgotten. What happened to those days where we did not give up and simply ignored the blasphemy that spouted from NH.


It's all because Kiba opened his loud mouth.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:07 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 19 2012, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is something I thought about as well. If Naruto and Hinata will hold hands, Sakura's reaction could be very telling. If she looks sad, angry, jealous or anything like that, there is still hope for NaruSaku. If, on the other hand, she smiles and looks at them all happy... well, that might be it for NS. All speculation at this point, of course. Might never even happen.


I really can't see them randomly holding hands or showing any sort of affection right after Obito just taunted Naruto about one of his comrades dying like that. If that happened and Obito laughed, I wouldn't blame him. Kinda pathetic after someone dies on his shoulder like that. rolleyes.gif The most I expect from the next chapter is Shikimaru's plan being started while Naruto places Neji's body on the ground and closes his eyes or something. mellow.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:23 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 19 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is something I thought about as well. If Naruto and Hinata will hold hands, Sakura's reaction could be very telling. If she looks sad, angry, jealous or anything like that, there is still hope for NaruSaku. If, on the other hand, if she smiles and looks at them all happy... well, that might be it for NS. All speculation at this point, of course. Might never even happen.


You know you made some really good point, but I don't think she will be angry or jealous that will give her hater even more reason to hate on her since they will say that she has no right to feel that way because back then she only had eyes for Sasuke, but like you said if she is sad or bother by it then NH will die, but if she smiles, I don't want to say it because I might get 3 or more replays from other fans let say not in a positive way.

Edited by Don-kun, 20 December 2012 - 01:24 AM.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:25 AM

QUOTE (Chucky-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now, these so-called NS fans imagine life, where NH is canon and Narusaku development is neglected and forgotten. What happened to those days where we did not give up and simply ignored the blasphemy that spouted from NH.


Worse. I'm actually one of those SS fans. Wouldn't mind NH, but I don't ship it, really. I am not so arrogant that I assume that my pairings will be absolutely canon so I like to read opposing views, such as this forum.

QUOTE (Qia @ Dec 20 2012, 02:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I really can't see them randomly holding hands or showing any sort of affection right after Obito just taunted Naruto about one of his comrades dying like that.

That could actually trigger the whole hand-holding in the first place. He wants to hold on to those comrades he still has left even more. It will be interesting to see how Naruto reacts to Neji's death and Obito's taunting in the next chapter. Doubt he will go all nine-tails now that he has made friends with Kurama.

QUOTE (Don-kun @ Dec 20 2012, 02:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if she is sad or bother by it then NH will die

Agreed. And I say this as someone who does not really like NaruSaku. If Sakura shows any clear* romantic feelings for Naruto at any point, I consider SS and NH done that very minute.

*Obviously we can have very different definitions on "clear".

Edited by Poison_In_Your_Coffee, 20 December 2012 - 01:29 AM.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:26 AM

QUOTE (Poison_In_Your_Coffee @ Dec 19 2012, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is something I thought about as well. If Naruto and Hinata will hold hands, Sakura's reaction could be very telling. If she looks sad, angry, jealous or anything like that, there is still hope for NaruSaku. If, on the other hand, she smiles and looks at them all happy... well, that might be it for NS. All speculation at this point, of course. Might never even happen.

The hand holding would be nice to show NH becoming canon. The one problem I have for it is, that Hinata doesn't share as significant development with Naruto as he has with Sakura, and the fact that Naruto suddenly showing interest would feel very weird in my mind.

My opinion as to what could happen is the same as KnS. I think Neji's death will serve as Hinata's final character development, finally leaving behind her insecurities for the sake of not letting Neji's sacrifice be in vain.

In a nice plot twist maybe it's Naruto the one that feels down and Hinata offers her hand to help him stand and gives him some encouraging words. That could be the true end of Hinata's story. After all this time of getting inspiration from Naruto it's now her turn to encourage him. That way she finally got what she wanted, to be an equal to Naruto, her hero. I think that if it happens that way to could completely resolve Hinata's character without the need to pair her with Naruto. After all, Hinata's feelings for Naruto were all about her taking strength from seeing him, so if she's able to move forward without Naruto's assistance then that's a good end for that story.

On the other hand, if Naruto is the one to give his hand then she'll take it while showing a very determined face that's willing to fight no matter what. That's another way to resolve Hinata's story. She'll show to Naruto that she's become stronger and doesn't need him to worry about her. She'll thank Naruto for everything and that would be it.

I think what could really mark the end is if Hinata herself acknowledges that Naruto doesn't love her, but that she'll keep on fighting to defend him so that Neji's death can have meaning. All while Naruto thanks her for her feelings.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:33 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Dec 19 2012, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The hand holding would be nice to show NH becoming canon. The one problem I have for it is, that Hinata doesn't share as significant development with Naruto as he has with Sakura, and the fact that Naruto suddenly showing interest would feel very weird in my mind.

My opinion as to what could happen is the same as KnS. I think Neji's death will serve as Hinata's final character development, finally leaving behind her insecurities for the sake of not letting Neji's sacrifice be in vain.

In a nice plot twist maybe it's Naruto the one that feels down and Hinata offers her hand to help him stand and gives him some encouraging words. That could be the true end of Hinata's story. After all this time of getting inspiration from Naruto it's now her turn to encourage him. That way she finally got what she wanted, to be an equal to Naruto, her hero. I think that if it happens that way to could completely resolve Hinata's character without the need to pair her with Naruto. After all, Hinata's feelings for Naruto were all about her taking strength from seeing him, so if she's able to move forward without Naruto's assistance then that's a good end for that story.

On the other hand, if Naruto is the one to give his hand then she'll take it while showing a very determined face that's willing to fight no matter what. That's another way to resolve Hinata's story. She'll show to Naruto that she's become stronger and doesn't need him to worry about her. She'll thank Naruto for everything and that would be it.

I think what could really mark the end is if Hinata herself acknowledges that Naruto doesn't love her, but that she'll keep on fighting to defend him so that Neji's death can have meaning. All while Naruto thanks her for her feelings.


What if the hand holding wasn't meant to be romantic in the first place? It's just a thought. I keep thinking of the face Hinata made when Sakura hugged Naruto. Maybe she saw something there? Maybe the hand holding would be a trigger for that? I don't know ;-;. It's just a thought. But I'd really rather they didn't hold hands. dry.gif

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (Qia @ Dec 20 2012, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What if the hand holding wasn't meant to be romantic in the first place? It's just a thought. I keep thinking of the face Hinata made when Sakura hugged Naruto. Maybe she saw something there? Maybe the hand holding would be a trigger for that? I don't know ;-;. It's just a thought. But I'd really rather they didn't hold hands. dry.gif

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i love how people keep saying if sakura smiles while hinata and naruto are "holding hands" its likely canon, but hinata smiled when sakura hugged naruto, so uh.... yeah

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