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[TouKen4Life3g]

You know, the latest Rock Lee chapter remind me something:

Where's Yamato?

I wonder if they do lose Tsunade (still hoping not), Naruto and Sakura will pledge not to lose another friend, so they will go and save Yamato without losing him. It's a thought. Of course, Kakashi and Sai will be part of it as well. It's a good line up after losing one friend. We just have to wait and see.

[tricksie]

I have high hopes for Rin's back story. I hope it will be interesting. I'm a little worried something will happen that will cast Kakashi in a bad light. Like maybe he tried having a relationship with Rin, but when he confessed that he never really loved her and that it was always Obito who did, it broke her heart and led to the chain of events that resulted in her death.

[Codus N]

You know, the latest Rock Lee chapter remind me something:

Where's Yamato?

I wonder if they do lose Tsunade (still hoping not), Naruto and Sakura will pledge not to lose another friend, so they will go and save Yamato without losing him. It's a thought. Of course, Kakashi and Sai will be part of it as well. It's a good line up after losing one friend. We just have to wait and see.

OMG, I completely forgot about him!!!

But it does give you a thought: if Kakashi is still in his Heroic BSOD, (after Obito retreats) that means he may very well refuse to be Hokage and in exchange, they rescue Yamato for the express purpose of him becoming Hokage. Not only that, I wouldn't doubt it if Yamato got a big power-up from being imprisoned in that plant thingie. This could eventually put him on even footing with Madara's Mokuton.

[KnS]

I have high hopes for Rin's back story. I hope it will be interesting. I'm a little worried something will happen that will cast Kakashi in a bad light. Like maybe he tried having a relationship with Rin, but when he confessed that he never really loved her and that it was always Obito who did, it broke her heart and led to the chain of events that resulted in her death.

I have high hopes as well. I've always wondered what happened to her, and what happened between her and Kakashi after they lost Obito. I'm intrigued by your idea that maybe they had a relationship, or tried to, but Kakashi never loved her and it broke down. I've wondered similarly, but instead that Kakashi did love her but it still broke down because he couldn't stop feeling guilty. So it's interesting to look at it your way.

Although Kakashi is a parallel of Sasuke, I've never felt he was quite as cold and disaffected or selfish, making a true love for Rin possible. I also thought having both Obito and Kakashi love Rin would distinguish the dynamic of Team Minato from the Sannin and Team 7 -- where within the Sannin it was Jiraiya --> Tsunade with no complication from Orochimaru, and Team 7's more intense Naruto --> Sakura --> Sasuke.

But I freely confess that my fannish admiration for Kakashi has made me biased toward that hope.

[candycane-chan]

I always forget about yamato
Isn't anyone heading to save him or did they forget about him too

[redragon88]

I have high hopes as well. I've always wondered what happened to her, and what happened between her and Kakashi after they lost Obito. I'm intrigued by your idea that maybe they had a relationship, or tried to, but Kakashi never loved her and it broke down. I've wondered similarly, but instead that Kakashi did love her but it still broke down because he couldn't stop feeling guilty. So it's interesting to look at it your way.

Although Kakashi is a parallel of Sasuke, I've never felt he was quite as cold and disaffected or selfish, making a true love for Rin possible. I also thought having both Obito and Kakashi love Rin would distinguish the dynamic of Team Minato from the Sannin and Team 7 -- where within the Sannin it was Jiraiya --> Tsunade with no complication from Orochimaru, and Team 7's more intense Naruto --> Sakura --> Sasuke.

But I freely confess that my fannish admiration for Kakashi has made me biased toward that hope.

I'd rather it went like this:

After Obito died Rin started visiting his grave every day or as much as she could. She starts reflecting on the fact that Obito loved her and how he was the one that wanted to rescue Rin from the Rock ninja and convinced Kakashi to do so as well. Also, she keeps remembering over and over again all of the good times she enjoyed with Obito and comes to realize how much she cared for him that it was even to the point of love. You could say it would be one of those "You don't know what you have until you loose it" type of moments.

But she feels crushed by the sad reality that even though she now loves him as well that it doesn't change the fact that he's dead, so everyting it's too late now. That depression probably affects her mental concentration which might've indirectly caused her death.

And about Kakashi, maybe inbetween all of those events above he might want to be with Rin (either because he now likes her as well or just to make her feel better) but instead encounters a reluctant Rin who doesn't know what to do with herself thanks to her new found feelings for Obito.

I don't know what are the chances for the above to happen, but a guy can dream right?

[T XD]

I'd rather it went like this:

After Obito died Rin started visiting his grave every day or as much as she could. She starts reflecting on the fact that Obito loved her and how he was the one that wanted to rescue Rin from the Rock ninja and convinced Kakashi to do so as well. Also, she keeps remembering over and over again all of the good times she enjoyed with Obito and comes to realize how much she cared for him that it was even to the point of love. You could say it would be one of those "You don't know what you have until you loose it" type of moments.

But she feels crushed by the sad reality that even though she now loves him as well that it doesn't change the fact that he's dead, so everyting it's too late now. That depression probably affects her mental concentration which might've indirectly caused her death.

And about Kakashi, maybe inbetween all of those events above he might want to be with Rin (either because he now likes her as well or just to make her feel better) but instead encounters a reluctant Rin who doesn't know what to do with herself thanks to her new found feelings for Obito.

I don't know what are the chances for the above to happen, but a guy can dream right?

You have just read my mind

I always have thought that Rin would discover her feelings for Obito after he died and that have lead her somehow to death.
Sometimes, i think that Rin might show up in this fight that is currently going, by reviving in some way like by a justu perhaps or, which i always thought about this moment, when Kabuto was resurrecting dead bodies and Obito was with him, the last coffin haven't been touched and Kabuto said something about this coffin like he was threatening, i actually don't remember exactly what he said, and that made Obito hesitate and get scared which i think Rin was in that coffin and it would somehow open during the fight that Obito ha going.

I always forget about yamato
Isn't anyone heading to save him or did they forget about him too

I forgot about whether someone has gone to save him or not cause the last chapter about the issue of Yamato was from a long time but i think that someone has gone to save him, not really sure.

Edited by T XD, 16 September 2012 - 11:02 AM.

[candycane-chan]

So it's possible for rin to be revived?!

I was wondering what'll happen if she war revived but I just can't see it happening especially since we didn't know what happend to her,and how will she stay safe after being revived I meen the jutsu brings her back in the same shape she died so she'll be 13 (if she died at this age) .
I think it's more possible for him to flashback about her or talk to her when he's on the verge of death maybe with kakashi too,who knows.

[T XD]

So it's possible for rin to be revived?!

I was wondering what'll happen if she war revived but I just can't see it happening especially since we didn't know what happend to her,and how will she stay safe after being revived I meen the jutsu brings her back in the same shape she died so she'll be 13 (if she died at this age) .
I think it's more possible for him to flashback about her or talk to her when he's on the verge of death maybe with kakashi too,who knows.

If she was revived, she will only be as a process that affects Obito on the way he thinks. There's many ways for Rin to be revived or something that indicates that she's present, not meaning as her spirit or anything. She might not be revived or anything of that sort but that coffin intrigues me a lot to know who was in it and the only possible characters are Rin or Madara's brother or a person from his clan, though i don't think a person from his clan is possibly to be about. So that why Rin is the highly possible character in that coffin and could be shown who's in it in this arc.
But again, it's only some possible ways from my thoughts if Rin were to show up just a way for Obito to realize where he's mistaken.
By the way, Obito will have that moment remembering his past life when he's dying which Rin will be a part of it.

Edited by T XD, 16 September 2012 - 12:36 PM.

[Arachnia]

So it's possible for rin to be revived?!

I was wondering what'll happen if she war revived but I just can't see it happening especially since we didn't know what happend to her,and how will she stay safe after being revived I meen the jutsu brings her back in the same shape she died so she'll be 13 (if she died at this age) .
I think it's more possible for him to flashback about her or talk to her when he's on the verge of death maybe with kakashi too,who knows.

Well we dont know if shes dead yet or how she died for all we know it was tobi who got her in is eye realm xDxD

And for rin's story what happend and all, i feel it wil have a great inpact in how the narusaku story would go but thats just me

Edited by Arachnia, 16 September 2012 - 11:27 AM.

[Nefertieh]

And really, there's so much potential in that decision, in terms of the conflict between Kakashi and Obito. I mean, we know it was one of Obito's youthful ambitions to become Hokage. Imagine if he somehow witnesses Kakashi's field promotion to that rank? Especially if he were to also know that Rin had loved Kakashi as well? *shudder*

I thought about that as well. That would really be twisting the knife. xD Or maybe Obito will realise that his dreams and ambitions live on with his friend.

If she was revived, she will only be as a process that affects Obito on the way he thinks. There's many ways for Rin to be revived or something that indicates that she's present, not meaning as her spirit or anything. She might not be revived or anything of that sort but that coffin intrigues me a lot to know who was in it and the only possible characters are Rin or Madara's brother or a person from his clan, though i don't think a person from his clan is possibly to be about. So that why Rin is the highly possible character in that coffin and could be shown who's in it in this arc.
But again, it's only some possible ways from my thoughts if Rin were to show up just a way for Obito to realize where he's mistaken.
By the way, Obito will have that moment remembering his past life when he's dying which Rin will be a part of it.

It was already shown that the last coffin was the real Madara.

Kabuto hints in one of the early chapters that Obito may not have wanted to "cooperate" with the real Madara, so it could be a possibility that he wanted to use Nagato's power to revive Rin.

I personally think there is a possibility that he couldn't revive Rin, maybe because her body was destroyed.

Edited by Nefertieh, 16 September 2012 - 12:44 PM.

[T XD]

I thought about that as well. It is really twisting the knife. xD Or maybe Obito will realise that his dreams and ambitions live on with his friend.

It's like when Nagato, alongside with Konan, have taken the dreams of Yahiko when he died to live on with him.
It would be close to a parallel to Obito, Kakashi and Rin as supporting Kakashi in helping Naruto in the future for the world to be a better place, not a complete parallel but still has the same idea. It could be applied when Obito returns to his old self and thinks that way.

I thought about that as well. That would really be twisting the knife. xD Or maybe Obito will realise that his dreams and ambitions live on with his friend.



It was already shown that the last coffin was the real Madara.

Kabuto hints in one of the early chapters that Obito may not have wanted to "cooperate" with the real Madara, so it could be a possibility that he wanted to use Nagato's power to revive Rin.

I personally think there is a possibility that he couldn't revive Rin, maybe because her body was destroyed.

Really ? Well, i think i have forgotten somehow.
Anyway, about Rin , it could be that her body could not be restored if it was destroyed but it's a fiction manga so she could be restored even if she's destroyed, it's a simple idea in a fiction manga to make it happen in a way or another.
What i'm saying is that if Rin somehow reappear, it's because she could affect him and alongside with Kakashi too in the process of the change of Obito's mind. Kakashi is already is affecting Obito by his presence.

Edited by T XD, 16 September 2012 - 01:12 PM.

[Nefertieh]

Really ? Well, i think i have forgotten somehow.
Anyway, about Rin , it could be that her body could not be restored if it was destroyed but it's a fiction manga so she could be restored even if she's destroyed, it's a simple idea in a fiction manga to make it happen in a way or another.

Right, I was referring to Kabuto's Edo Tensei and Nagato's power. The Edo Tensei specifically needs the original body, and it seems to be a similar situation to Nagato as well.

[candycane-chan]

I thought about that as well. That would really be twisting the knife. xD Or maybe Obito will realise that his dreams and ambitions live on with his friend.



It was already shown that the last coffin was the real Madara.

Kabuto hints in one of the early chapters that Obito may not have wanted to "cooperate" with the real Madara, so it could be a possibility that he wanted to use Nagato's power to revive Rin.

I personally think there is a possibility that he couldn't revive Rin, maybe because her body was destroyed.

I highly doubt rin will be revived
I meen how?when?where?
obito will now fight gai and kakashi so odds are that it ends here ,he has no time to revive her ,not anymore atleast
the chapter will be out in 2 days I think,maybe it'll have an early release like 601,so we'll see what happened

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If she was revived, she will only be as a process that affects Obito on the way he thinks. There's many ways for Rin to be revived or something that indicates that she's present, not meaning as her spirit or anything. She might not be revived or anything of that sort but that coffin intrigues me a lot to know who was in it and the only possible characters are Rin or Madara's brother or a person from his clan, though i don't think a person from his clan is possibly to be about. So that why Rin is the highly possible character in that coffin and could be shown who's in it in this arc.
But again, it's only some possible ways from my thoughts if Rin were to show up just a way for Obito to realize where he's mistaken.
By the way, Obito will have that moment remembering his past life when he's dying which Rin will be a part of it.

Sorry but i think obito will die and rejoin her in afterlife this is the ending that i think for obito.

and 2 kakashi went to visit obito' grave everyday blaming himself for his death, i dont know for sure but obito's death had more impact on kakashi than rin's so it's shown that he really didnt care about her.

Edited by dovahkiin, 16 September 2012 - 01:56 PM.

[T XD]

Sorry but i think obito will die and rejoin her in afterlife this is the ending that i think for obito.

and 2 kakashi went to visit obito' grave everyday blaming himself for his death, i dont know for sure but obito's death had more impact on kakashi than rin's so it's shown that he really didnt care about her.

I was saying if she would somehow reappear which could be in any possible way, it would be because, along with Kakashi, to play the role of the change of Obito's view on the world.

Edited by T XD, 16 September 2012 - 05:04 PM.

[candycane-chan]

/\ doubt it

@ dovahkin : exactly,.......he said himself that he would've left her ,so he acually kind of makes old sasuke look like a noble man ,and yes it was about obito but rinndid have an affect not as much as obito did anyway

[Nefertieh]

I highly doubt rin will be revived
I meen how?when?where?
obito will now fight gai and kakashi so odds are that it ends here ,he has no time to revive her ,not anymore atleast
the chapter will be out in 2 days I think,maybe it'll have an early release like 601,so we'll see what happened

I wasn't referring to whether Rin will be resurrected, I was referring to why Obito wanted to go to the trouble of creating an Infinite Tsukuyomi if he wanted her alive, as oppose to just using Edo Tensei.

As for whether Rin will be resurrected in the story; it could be a possibility. I doubt Obito has come this far in the story just to be killed off after we find out his true identity. Doesn't it seem suspicious that we don't know anything about the circumstances of Rin's death, or whether she is truly dead?

Bringing Rin back, just like having Obito as Tobi, is an opportunity that seems to be too good to miss.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I wasn't referring to whether Rin will be resurrected, I was referring to why Obito wanted to go to the trouble of creating an Infinite Tsukuyomi if he wanted her alive, as oppose to just using Edo Tensei.

As for whether Rin will be resurrected in the story; it could be a possibility. I doubt Obito has come this far in the story just to be killed off after we find out his true identity. Doesn't it seem suspicious that we don't know anything about the circumstances of Rin's death, or whether she is truly dead?

Bringing Rin back, just like having Obito as Tobi, is an opportunity that seems to be too good to miss.

his purpose is not to bring her back, but do something about the world.