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Opinion of Sakura

  1. I love her! She's my favorite! (47 votes [43.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.52%

  2. I really like her, she's one of my favorites (47 votes [43.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.52%

  3. I like her, but she's not a favorite (10 votes [9.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.26%

  4. She's okay, but can be annoying/useless sometimes (4 votes [3.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.70%

  5. I don't care about Sakura (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. I hate Sakura (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 11:10 PM

QUOTE (shadow_Uzumaki @ Jan 10 2013, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's really just that whole, bolded bit, for me that makes me headbash against the wall. Without that 'confession,' I would've been perfectly content if Kishi had just made NS canon in some manner, whether the writing was good or meh-ish. With the 'confession,' it's a bit of a facepalm.... Making me treat Sakura with a bit of, "Really? Going for that kind of manipulation?" So, I would have to settle for some solid and decisive writing to pair NS up. Now Kishi'll have to prove that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke, that she is seriously in love with Naruto, Naruto has to settle the issue with Hinata.....

Really, the whole events after the collective Kages kicked Sasuke's ass out of Iron is when it all started to go wrong for me....


I understand what you're saying here, though I'm not as bothered by her deciding to confess. Would if have been better if she had just fallen in love with him without having to prove it. Could be considering that's what it seemed like in all of Part 2 up until that point. It was pretty much perfect but as you've said, we now have to see her basically prove she's in love with Naruto and out of love with the other. With this, at least we'll certainly see if she is out of love with Sasuke at some point.

I think Kishi would of settled that relationship anyway, though at the end of the Pein arc, when she's smiling at Sakura hugging Naruto, that would be of been a legit closing moment as well.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:50 AM

If someone is interested, I updated the analysis with part 13, on both Tumblr and DeviantART. happy.gif

Edited by Chatte, 13 January 2013 - 03:50 AM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:34 AM

ya know... people get annoyed by girl characters too easily. even if they have a regular flaws, they call them horrible characters.

people where annoyed by Katara too (from avatar the last airbender) just because she was a little bossy.

what is so wrong with being bossy?? so what!! it's just a flaw.

it doesn't mean that was all she ever was. she was also motherly and a great friend and fighter!

same with sakura.

so what if she has a short-temper. she's a good friend, and healer and a caring person!! not to mention a good fighter when she needs to be.

does a girl HAVE to be mild-mannered or completely tomboyish to be liked!!!?

....this wasn't directed at anyone.......i just felt like ranting..XD

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Jan 13 2013, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya know... people get annoyed by girl characters too easily. even if they have a regular flaws, they call them horrible characters.

people where annoyed by Katara too (from avatar the last airbender) just because she was a little bossy.

what is so wrong with being bossy?? so what!! it's just a flaw.

it doesn't mean that was all she ever was. she was also motherly and a great friend and fighter!

same with sakura.

so what if she has a short-temper. she's a good friend, and healer and a caring person!! not to mention a good fighter when she needs to be.

does a girl HAVE to be mild-mannered or completely tomboyish to be liked!!!?

....this wasn't directed at anyone.......i just felt like ranting..XD


I guess it has to do with confidence, though?
Sakura is quite a confident person and knows to put someone in their place if they cross the line.
And I guess people see it as too bossy.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:16 PM

I think it's more that some people don't know her character and personality. Almost all the main female characters get treated the same as Sakura.
So, I think it's because they don't get their character, especially knowing about the hitting trait.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 12:50 PM

It's actually really annoying how sexist the fandom can be. If the female doesn't do anything as the main male character in action-wise areas, they're automatically useless. Emotional support is just as important, y'know. And besides, it's not like she is useless. Remember the Sasori fight? That was easily one of the top fights in the series. Definitely one of my absolute favorites. It's not like her skills just disappeared. They're still there, Kishi just needs to put it to use again.

Another thing that bugs me. The fandom hates the way she treated Naruto when essentially, he was just as annoying as her. That's exactly why I disliked both of them in the beginning of the series. They were selfish, loud-mouthed, and overly hot-headed. Naruto's background is a lot more sympathetic true but Sakura's was pretty sad to me as well. She was bullied a lot and pretty much had no friends until Ino. Sakura wasn't very popular either. Her background isn't achingly heart-breaking like Naruto's but still enough to feel pitying.

Just ran across Youtube earlier and a Sakura hate comment saying "What kind of heroine is she if we don't even know a damn thing about her? Why is she the heroine? Except that she has two "parents" who look like kitten and doesn't look a damn thing like her. Plus, she cries a lot!"

I was so tempted to reply to that comment because it really pissed me off. What is wrong with the West sometimes? I mean, really. facepalm.png

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 02:49 PM

QUOTE (tricksie @ Jan 11 2013, 04:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Anyway, Kishimoto has an obligation to all of his audience, not just the ones who support a particular pairing over another. I'm interested to see how he will resolve the tension of shipping and get audience behind him in the decision.

He has painted Sakura to be rough, dismissive and possibly false to Naruto (the contested confession). Hinata has never been shown to have any flaws (excluding her own self-doubt, which only harms herself). So even though there is a lot of foreshadowing of NS as the final pairing, Kishimoto will have to restore support in Sakura before the general audience accepts it...and is happy about it.

So I guess it's not so much what's acceptable within the storyline, but what will be accepted by the fans and how Kishimoto will get to that point. Will he make people sympathize with Sakura? Or will he give Hinata another love interest? Or both?

Anyway, the more junk Kishimoto puts on Sakura (like the Naruto implying she's a liar) to keep the possibility of NH afloat, the more he will have to undo to make NS the final accepted pairing.

This is what I don't get with Kishi's decisions. Why is he going so far to crap on Sakura's character?? If he really intends to make NS the end pairing, then why does it seem he's trying to make Sakura look awful and hated in the eyes of the readers?? I'm absolutely confused. I'm starting to think Kishi is being a masochist by giving himself more work to do. Either that, or his editor's at fault and despises Sakura.

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 13 2013, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's actually really annoying how sexist the fandom can be. If the female doesn't do anything as the main male character in action-wise areas, they're automatically useless. Emotional support is just as important, y'know. And besides, it's not like she is useless. Remember the Sasori fight? That was easily one of the top fights in the series. Definitely one of my absolute favorites. It's not like her skills just disappeared. They're still there, Kishi just needs to put it to use again.

Another thing that bugs me. The fandom hates the way she treated Naruto when essentially, he was just as annoying as her. That's exactly why I disliked both of them in the beginning of the series. They were selfish, loud-mouthed, and overly hot-headed. Naruto's background is a lot more sympathetic true but Sakura's was pretty sad to me as well. She was bullied a lot and pretty much had no friends until Ino. Sakura wasn't very popular either. Her background isn't achingly heart-breaking like Naruto's but still enough to feel pitying.

Just ran across Youtube earlier and a Sakura hate comment saying "What kind of heroine is she if we don't even know a damn thing about her? Why is she the heroine? Except that she has two "parents" who look like kitten and doesn't look a damn thing like her. Plus, she cries a lot!"

I was so tempted to reply to that comment because it really pissed me off. What is wrong with the West sometimes? I mean, really. facepalm.png


Well, you have to remember that this is an action series. So the females are held to the same standard as the males in the readers' eyes. Let's take a look: Naruto is the hero. He's the one the readers should be admiring. To that extent, Sakura (as the heroine) needs to be held to the same standard too. Not just emotionally, but physically as well. She needs to be shown that she can be equal to her partner in all aspects. Otherwise, you won't have a hero-heroine duo that works.

Several examples of how a hero-heroine duo should work:

Natsu and Lucy: Both support each other emotionally, and Lucy, while she can be placed at the bottom tier of characters in strength, she shows that she can handle the big boys pretty well. (And now with Uranometria in her arsenal, she's probably risen to the mid-tiers, and can possibly prove to be a threat to even Natsu)

Jellal and Erza: Erza is the emotional crutch Jellal hangs onto. Not only that, she also matches him equally in the physical department.

Ichigo and Rukia: Same as above, and Rukia is not a bad fighter either.

Ed and Winry: Winry's no fighter, but she's a crucial support to Ed as his Medic. Except that unlike NS, this one actually interacts closely to make up for Winry's lack of field action. NS, as sad as it is for me to say, doesn't seem to interact as closely and as well these do shamefulcry0js.gif . In fact, Ed's kinda similar to Naruto too in that he keeps trying to build up a wall to separate her from him. But Winry's stubbornness keeps breaking them down. (or to be more exact, her wrench sometimes does the job of it tongue.gif ) And let's not forget her brilliant heroine-worthy moment: The Briggs plan.

Roy and Riza: Don't get me started on these two.....

Lastly, we have MinaKushi themselves. I believe I don't need to say anything about them.

A special mention goes to Gajeel and Levy:

Levy, as she admits, is not much of a fighter compared to the rest of the cast, but makes it up for her brains. Something Makarov even held in high regard enough to give her a shot at the S-Class exams. Gajeel, on the other hand, helps her with her lack of confidence. He also lacks some brains, to be fair. But that's why he wants her to be by his side. An interesting wall built upon them would be the PL arc. I sometimes wonder if we'll ever see deep into Gajeel's psyche about it. It's one loose thread Mashima might want to clear up.

Bonus points is that she's also his Medic.

This is something that I want Naruto to do. But honestly, I think this should've been done ages ago. I want Naruto to help Sakura with her insecurities and Sakura to help Naruto with his too.

My whole point is that, Kishi had better find one damn good way of showing why they're the heroes of this manga. The problem is, how can Kishi undo everything after what's happened. Chapter 615 showed Hinata being all heroine-like. If you see my examples above, Hinata seems to fit the role now. Minus interaction, of course.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:25 PM

Codus, your point is valid. In some ways, I agree with the Sakura haters. I want Sakura to prove herself again and a big massively awesome fight like she did against Sasori. But unlike them, I'm way more sympathetic of her and don't hate the character. I blame Kishimoto for it, he's absolutely terrible in this regard! While Sakura is very good in the emotional support range, she needs to fight again. That way, they can ease off their hate a little. I actually have a friend who quit the manga for a few years because after 540, she was upset that Kishimoto kept giving the fans more reason to hate her and never let her do anything. She's in love with Sakura's character but is sick of getting disappointed with how he writes her. That's why she's now a fanfiction writer doing Sakura and NaruSaku-based stories. According to her, she'll read the manga again if 1. Sakura gets some more positve focus and fight scenes 2. NaruSaku moment happens 3. Hinata fades in the background and stops taking the heroine role (I told about 615. She was not pleased. laugh.gif)

I just don't get Kishimoto. He said he doesn't hate or and is actually fond of her but never lets her do anything that'll earn the fan's respect again. Is it because of the editors? Do they push him to focus on others more? And how is Sakura gonna outshine Hinata? Hinata is able to be a heroine for a few chapter and angers me because not only will Hinata's fanbase increase and get louder than ever before, Sakura's haters just increased. I know for a fact this is exactly what happened after 615. Kishi, you just dug yourself even deeper into a very scary, dark hole with this. I hope you realize that.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 13 January 2013 - 03:26 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:06 PM

what makes me sadder is that while he should be using this end time of the manga to try "clean up" the image of the heroine of his story, he is actually giving heroin moments to a side character that already has a large fanbase. dry.gif

to complete the circus he just needs to make Sasuke look like the real protagonist of the series making him end up with Sakura.. so Sasuke would be the bad guy that at the end would resume his friendship with his best friend (Naruto) and gets the girl too.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:27 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jan 13 2013, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Codus, your point is valid. In some ways, I agree with the Sakura haters. I want Sakura to prove herself again and a big massively awesome fight like she did against Sasori. But unlike them, I'm way more sympathetic of her and don't hate the character. I blame Kishimoto for it, he's absolutely terrible in this regard! While Sakura is very good in the emotional support range, she needs to fight again. That way, they can ease off their hate a little. I actually have a friend who quit the manga for a few years because after 540, she was upset that Kishimoto kept giving the fans more reason to hate her and never let her do anything. She's in love with Sakura's character but is sick of getting disappointed with how he writes her. That's why she's now a fanfiction writer doing Sakura and NaruSaku-based stories. According to her, she'll read the manga again if 1. Sakura gets some more positve focus and fight scenes 2. NaruSaku moment happens 3. Hinata fades in the background and stops taking the heroine role (I told about 615. She was not pleased. laugh.gif)

I just don't get Kishimoto. He said he doesn't hate or and is actually fond of her but never lets her do anything that'll earn the fan's respect again. Is it because of the editors? Do they push him to focus on others more? And how is Sakura gonna outshine Hinata? Hinata is able to be a heroine for a few chapter and angers me because not only will Hinata's fanbase increase and get louder than ever before, Sakura's haters just increased. I know for a fact this is exactly what happened after 615. Kishi, you just dug yourself even deeper into a very scary, dark hole with this. I hope you realize that.


QFT. Especially the last part.

Regarding the editors' influence, I think this could be true. Think about it, SJ Alpha recently posted a pro-NH comment on twitter. Since SJ Alpha is now shelling out issues the same day its shelves in Japan, I would think they would be somewhat privy to what's going on with Kishi's decisions. After all, they certainly need to have the issue in advance and consult Kishi a bit to make sure they can convey Kishi's words as accurately as it can be. That would mean the staff at SJ Alpha is just as involved with the manga as Kishi's regular editor.

If they posted that NH comment, then it's possible they already know what's going to happen in advance.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

Well actually I can't say Sakura did NOT get the spotlight at some point. Remember the Neji Zetsu? PRETTY awesome THERE!! smile.gif But yeah I want her to to shine more and show that she is the real Heroine of the story.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:52 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jan 13 2013, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QFT. Especially the last part.

Regarding the editors' influence, I think this could be true. Think about it, SJ Alpha recently posted a pro-NH comment on twitter. Since SJ Alpha is now shelling out issues the same day its shelves in Japan, I would think they would be somewhat privy to what's going on with Kishi's decisions. After all, they certainly need to have the issue in advance and consult Kishi a bit to make sure they can convey Kishi's words as accurately as it can be. That would mean the staff at SJ Alpha is just as involved with the manga as Kishi's regular editor.

If they posted that NH comment, then it's possible they already know what's going to happen in advance.

SJ alpha will only start releasing issues simultaneous after 617 and so on.
Second they receive the issue from the SJ of Japan.
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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:41 PM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jan 13 2013, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QFT. Especially the last part.

Regarding the editors' influence, I think this could be true. Think about it, SJ Alpha recently posted a pro-NH comment on twitter. Since SJ Alpha is now shelling out issues the same day its shelves in Japan, I would think they would be somewhat privy to what's going on with Kishi's decisions. After all, they certainly need to have the issue in advance and consult Kishi a bit to make sure they can convey Kishi's words as accurately as it can be. That would mean the staff at SJ Alpha is just as involved with the manga as Kishi's regular editor.

If they posted that NH comment, then it's possible they already know what's going to happen in advance.


Possibly. But it's still not as accurate as the manga itself or Kishi's word. I don't think Kishimoto would tell them which pairing is end game, be it NaruHina or NaruSaku. Maybe because he's afraid it'd get leaked out before the manga ends? I know I wouldn't do it. So I feel like the SJ group was assuming from the chapter because of the Hinata focus. Basically getting handed a chapter and then speculating like the fanbase. It's very unprofessional. facepalm.png

The editor I'm guessing might be responsible for the lack of Sakura. But can't really blame them for Hinata as heroine moment. Kishi did say he was going to focus on the side characters. It's possible they pushed her for that amount of heavy focus but ultimately, it's Kishi's idea. So it's his fault. And if he gets more Sakura hatemail and Hinata "Why isn't she the heroine?!" criticism, Kishimoto has no one but himself to blame. It's his bed, he has to sleep in it.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:51 PM

Really now, if Kishi has fallen this low, I'll lose all respect for him.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 13 2013, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Really now, if Kishi has fallen this low, I'll lose all respect for him.

I've noticed that little by little, my care and interest for the series have been decreasing. tongue.gif Fortunately, it's not zero yet. happy.gif

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jan 13 2013, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've noticed that little by little, my care and interest for the series have been decreasing. tongue.gif Fortunately, it's not zero yet. happy.gif

Mine as well, generally, but I just hope that he'll make things right in the end.

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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:29 PM

QUOTE (Chatte @ Jan 13 2013, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mine as well, generally, but I just hope that he'll make things right in the end.

He got to. It seems that he's stalling in every aspect of the manga, and when he does that, it takes forever to finish an arc like this arc that we're in right now fu.png



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Posted 13 January 2013 - 11:33 PM

QUOTE (T XD @ Jan 13 2013, 11:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
He got to. It seems that he's stalling in every aspect of the manga, and when he does that, it takes forever to finish an arc like this arc that we're in right now fu.png

Yeah, you might be right, however, I still want to see some major Sakura development.
Really.
I can't get it out from my head that she is so behind her former team mates. Naruto and Sasuke both got their development and surpassed their master, Sakura... nothing.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 12:16 AM

QUOTE (Codus N @ Jan 13 2013, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, you have to remember that this is an action series. So the females are held to the same standard as the males in the readers' eyes. Let's take a look: Naruto is the hero. He's the one the readers should be admiring. To that extent, Sakura (as the heroine) needs to be held to the same standard too. Not just emotionally, but physically as well. She needs to be shown that she can be equal to her partner in all aspects. Otherwise, you won't have a hero-heroine duo that works.



Kinda response to xxRomance's 'sexist' post, but it fits better when partnered with Codus's post ^.


It's really not limited to gender roles that dictate how vicious Fandoms can be. One of the biggest victims of fandoms is Shinji Ikari from the original NGE. Because NGE's part of the Mecha genre, Shinji was usually lambasted as an annoying and whimpy Mecha protagonist. Considering he's not like mecha protagonists, he's reluctant, shy, quiet, and filled with neuroses. Most pilots are bombastic, larger-than life, HOT-BLOODED! They're not afraid to charge in and wreck monster crap, while pumping up their blood.

Although, really, Shinji can match up to any mecha protagonists' hot-bloodness whenever Unit-01 goes Berserk.
Still, outside of special circumstances, Shinji's none of that. Shinji has gotten praise from his later portrayals, but he had to step up his hot-bloodness.

Heck, I'm guilty of it, too, I still prefer Simon the Digger (commonly known as the Anti-Shinji) from Gurren Lagann than Shinji Ikari.

We're always so myopic whenever we see characters that don't live up to our standards, always dismissing them as less-than exceptional while ignoring why, exactly, the characters aren't acting like a member of 'so-and-so' genre.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

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Kinda response to xxRomance's 'sexist' post, but it fits better when partnered with Codus's post ^.


It's really not limited to gender roles that dictate how vicious Fandoms can be. One of the biggest victims of fandoms is Shinji Ikari from the original NGE. Because NGE's part of the Mecha genre, Shinji was usually lambasted as an annoying and whimpy Mecha protagonist. Considering he's not like mecha protagonists, he's reluctant, shy, quiet, and filled with neuroses. Most pilots are bombastic, larger-than life, HOT-BLOODED! They're not afraid to charge in and wreck monster crap, while pumping up their blood.

Although, really, Shinji can match up to any mecha protagonists' hot-bloodness whenever Unit-01 goes Berserk.
Still, outside of special circumstances, Shinji's none of that. Shinji has gotten praise from his later portrayals, but he had to step up his hot-bloodness.

Heck, I'm guilty of it, too, I still prefer Simon the Digger (commonly known as the Anti-Shinji) from Gurren Lagann than Shinji Ikari.

We're always so myopic whenever we see characters that don't live up to our standards, always dismissing them as less-than exceptional while ignoring why, exactly, the characters aren't acting like a member of 'so-and-so' genre.


Good point about Shinji, shadow. But I think that since this kind of series is supposed to help set up something of a role model in the characters, Sakura also needs to follow the same standard of shonen heroines.

Lastly, I also agree that making NS canon earlier would've been fine, IMO. It wouldn't matter much to the story, anyways. After all, the manga is more than just the romance. Hell, I wouldn't have minded if Kishi confirmed outright NS is canon like Mashima did with NaLu. The only thing we would have to look forward is their relationship's journey. And that's just as enjoyable as keeping it a mystery.

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