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[FireFox]

At what moment do you exactly? Because I feel like you didn't saw plenty of characters development 

You will have some good time watching/reading rest of Gintama 

And yeah, last arc was just THAT good for me, almost every favorit character of mine - was there.

The one where Kondo dresses like a cockroach and fools Otae to go on a date with him for that festival but ends up a date with all of Yorozuya  . Can't remember  the exact chapter .  You don't say more GinTsuki   .

 

That I know no matter what   .

 

That i bet .What are your faves btw ?

[SuperChief]

He only became one, after having Juubi sealed in him, don't you think? Madara and Obito got horns too. He didn't predict it as it would happend, he only wished for it more like, but he saw with every generation - that it didn't work. Even Naruto don't mention anything about jinchuriki after fight with Sasuke.  So, we can only guess what it is. Surely, story was about Naruto we all saw it, but Kishimoto thinks other way 
So I'm will be not suprised if he will pull anything from what I writted in previous pages.

In Kaguya's flashbacks we saw younger versions of Hagoromo and Hamura wielding shakujō and Truth Seeking Balls. This battle occurred prior to her sealing, so obviously the brothers were born with those powers, which isn't that unusual when considering the fact their mother was the Jūbi.

[Nar123]

In Kaguya's flashbacks we saw younger versions of Hagoromo and Hamura wielding shakujō and Truth Seeking Balls. This battle occurred prior to her sealing, so obviously the brothers were born with those powers, which isn't that unusual when considering the fact their mother was the Jūbi.

Man when did Naruto's plot became such a mess?
Kishimoto could have done some interesting stuff with this kitten but instead we got this mess

[NarutoUzumaki01]

The one where Kondo dresses like a cockroach and fools Otae to go on a date with him for that festival but ends up a date with all of Yorozuya  . Can't remember  the exact chapter .  You don't say more GinTsuki   .

 

That I know no matter what   .

 

That i bet .What are your faves btw ?

   or No 

Kondo, Shogun, Zenzo, Gintoki.

 

In Kaguya's flashbacks we saw younger versions of Hagoromo and Hamura wielding shakujō and Truth Seeking Balls. This battle occurred prior to her sealing, so obviously the brothers were born with those powers, which isn't that unusual when considering the fact their mother was the Jūbi.

Well, you right on part, but I bet Hagoromo and Hamura changed after they sealed Jubi in them too.

[Change]

The more I think about it, the more it seems that the theory on kishimoto not caring anymore seems like the least possible explaination. Because even if you don't care about your work, you wouldn't say things that completely makes no sense.
He either sold out big time(basically true), lost his mind, knows what he's doing and is purposely trying to ruin the franchise, or is doing drugs.

[James S Cassidy]

Fun facts:

- No one ever confirmed that Naruto is child of prophecy, it's only was told that this child would fight with a man with strong eyes [Sasuke fought Madara]

- It's been told that child of prophecy would bring revolution to this world, Naruto didn't [Sasuke did in fact?]

- In the end, if you look at it, the only characters that succeded in their ways - is both descendants of Kaguya's childs and both have dojutsu (Hinata aka heroine, Sasuke aka main hero)

- Both characters Hinata and Sasuke - is perfect couple in terms of story (not a plot wise, I bet they didn't share even a single panel, LOL) - both a born within a clan with dojutsu, everything handed to both of them without much determination from their sides (Naruto to Hinata, random ninjutsu claws to Hinata, MS to Sasuke, EMS and Rinnengan to Sasuke), both used supposed main hero and heroine only as tools in their fates.

- Both, supposed main hero and heroine - Naruto and Sakura - was underdogs from beggining, both worked hard, even developed strong feelings/connection between them, both  where fighting their desteny [jinchuriki/weak woman] to become someone who worth of being friend/shinobi/hokage, and both ended up being mare tools in desteny of real main characters, and served as price for them.

Well, that's pretty much Kishimoto's way of thinknig.

The prophecy is so vague I can apply it anyone. Hell, this prophecy applies even more to Obito than even Sasuke. Watch
 

- No one ever confirmed that Naruto is child of prophecy, it's only was told that this child would fight with a man with strong eyes [Sasuke fought Madara]

Obito also fought Madara and actually managed to beat him a few times in a few areas. The prophecy never says anything about winning the battle now, does it?
 

- It's been told that child of prophecy would bring revolution to this world, Naruto didn't [Sasuke did in fact?]

Actually, this could be Obito as well. Obito started the Fourth Ninja War which actually brought about peace more than Sasuke and Naruto did. Noone ever fought after the war was won.
 

- In the end, if you look at it, the only characters that succeded in their ways - is both descendants of Kaguya's childs and both have dojutsu (Hinata aka heroine, Sasuke aka main hero)

Obito technically succeeded in changing the world AND he got Rin in the end...even if only in death, but as it is said the prophecy never said anything about winning or living through it. Just that a battle would be fought.
 

- Both characters Hinata and Sasuke - is perfect couple in terms of story (not a plot wise, I bet they didn't share even a single panel, LOL) - both a born within a clan with dojutsu, everything handed to both of them without much determination from their sides (Naruto to Hinata, random ninjutsu claws to Hinata, MS to Sasuke, EMS and Rinnengan to Sasuke), both used supposed main hero and heroine only as tools in their fates.

Again, Obito got free power-ups too thanks to both Madara and his own Uchiha blood. He was also injected with Hashirama's cells which granted him more powers.
 

- Both, supposed main hero and heroine - Naruto and Sakura - was underdogs from beggining, both worked hard, even developed strong feelings/connection between them, both  where fighting their desteny [jinchuriki/weak woman] to become someone who worth of being friend/shinobi/hokage, and both ended up being mare tools in desteny of real main characters, and served as price for them.

Again...Obito Obito Obito.
 

So if that is the case, then the main character is not Naruto OR Sasuke, but Obito. Obito who brought true peace through war, who gained love of friends and influenced a whole new generation of people no matter evil he had done.

See how easy it is?

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 December 2014 - 08:15 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

The prophecy is so vague I can apply it anyone. Hell, this prophecy applies even more to Obito than even Sasuke. Watch
 

- No one ever confirmed that Naruto is child of prophecy, it's only was told that this child would fight with a man with strong eyes [Sasuke fought Madara]

Obito also fought Madara and actually managed to beat him a few times in a few areas. The prophecy never says anything about winning the battle now, does it?
 

- It's been told that child of prophecy would bring revolution to this world, Naruto didn't [Sasuke did in fact?]

Actually, this could be Obito as well. Obito started the Fourth Ninja War which actually brought about peace more than Sasuke and Naruto did. Noone ever fought after the war was fought.
 

- In the end, if you look at it, the only characters that succeded in their ways - is both descendants of Kaguya's childs and both have dojutsu (Hinata aka heroine, Sasuke aka main hero)

Obito technically succeeded in changing the world AND he got Rin in the end...even if only in death, but as it is said the prophecy never said anything about winning or living through it. Just that a battle would be fought.
 

- Both characters Hinata and Sasuke - is perfect couple in terms of story (not a plot wise, I bet they didn't share even a single panel, LOL) - both a born within a clan with dojutsu, everything handed to both of them without much determination from their sides (Naruto to Hinata, random ninjutsu claws to Hinata, MS to Sasuke, EMS and Rinnengan to Sasuke), both used supposed main hero and heroine only as tools in their fates.

Again, Obito got free power-ups too thanks to both Madara and his own Uchiha blood. He was also injected with Hashirama's cells which granted him more powers.
 

- Both, supposed main hero and heroine - Naruto and Sakura - was underdogs from beggining, both worked hard, even developed strong feelings/connection between them, both  where fighting their desteny [jinchuriki/weak woman] to become someone who worth of being friend/shinobi/hokage, and both ended up being mare tools in desteny of real main characters, and served as price for them.

Again...Obito Obito Obito.
 

So if that is the case, then the main character is not Naruto OR Sasuke, but Obito. Obito who brought true peace through war, who gained love of friends and influenced a whole new generation of people no matter evil he had done.

See how easy it is?

 

What do you trying to say? I just pointed in out in terms of last interview at JF that Kishimoto said story wasn't about Naruto. Ofcourse Obito as MC is pretty good, we saw him in all states, yeah, he is mass murderer, but at least we saw his development, and that he was manipulated, on other hand - Sasuke is pretty kitten MC in any way.

[Tiller]

 

What kind of news are you expecting?

 

Confirmation of things we heard about during FJ. Seperating facts from rumors, such as did Junko really tell Kishimoto to be quite because he was about to make an ass of himself again. Did the group really laugh at Hinata's VA. Just how bad is the post ending Narutoverse doing really? Is it obvious that they have lost fans as far as their bottom line goes?

 

Confirmation of rumors I suppose in short. Plus whatever new info we get.

 

Plus this is suppose be NS week... yet I haven't heard much about NS.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Aw, another kitten about Boruto, yuk.

[James S Cassidy]

What do you trying to say? I just pointed in out in terms of last interview at JF that Kishimoto said story wasn't about Naruto. Ofcourse Obito as MC is pretty good, we saw him in all states, yeah, he is mass murderer, but at least we saw his development, and that he was manipulated, on other hand - Sasuke is pretty sh*tty MC in any way.

What I am trying to say is that Kishimoto has basically went against even himself and his own words over the 15 years in the last two months. You really want to believe him now? You really believe that everything he says now is 100% truth, no lie, this is how it was since the beginning?

Alright. Personally speaking, the only thing I know at this point in time is that nothing is true anymore. Not even the fandoms that follow it. Most are just posers who cared more about pairings than they did about anything else and they hide behind their insults to cover up their insecurities knowing full well their biased views make them utterly narrow-minded.

I also know that people can use words to make anything a reality. The moment you start believing what Kishimoto is saying now is the moment that you start accepting this pitiful excuse of an ending.

So if Kishimoto wanted to say that Obito was the main character the whole time....there is nothing to prove him otherwise since at this point everyone is so willing to believe anything now. Which is the sad reality of it all. It's so easy to all this stuff AFTER the fact than it is during it.

Terms of the year:
-Deus Ex Machina
-Convenience
-Manipulation.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 December 2014 - 08:25 PM.

[ichigo500]

 

The prophecy is so vague I can apply it anyone. Hell, this prophecy applies even more to Obito than even Sasuke. Watch
 

- No one ever confirmed that Naruto is child of prophecy, it's only was told that this child would fight with a man with strong eyes [Sasuke fought Madara]

Obito also fought Madara and actually managed to beat him a few times in a few areas. The prophecy never says anything about winning the battle now, does it?
 

- It's been told that child of prophecy would bring revolution to this world, Naruto didn't [Sasuke did in fact?]

Actually, this could be Obito as well. Obito started the Fourth Ninja War which actually brought about peace more than Sasuke and Naruto did. Noone ever fought after the war was won.
 

- In the end, if you look at it, the only characters that succeded in their ways - is both descendants of Kaguya's childs and both have dojutsu (Hinata aka heroine, Sasuke aka main hero)

Obito technically succeeded in changing the world AND he got Rin in the end...even if only in death, but as it is said the prophecy never said anything about winning or living through it. Just that a battle would be fought.
 

- Both characters Hinata and Sasuke - is perfect couple in terms of story (not a plot wise, I bet they didn't share even a single panel, LOL) - both a born within a clan with dojutsu, everything handed to both of them without much determination from their sides (Naruto to Hinata, random ninjutsu claws to Hinata, MS to Sasuke, EMS and Rinnengan to Sasuke), both used supposed main hero and heroine only as tools in their fates.

Again, Obito got free power-ups too thanks to both Madara and his own Uchiha blood. He was also injected with Hashirama's cells which granted him more powers.
 

- Both, supposed main hero and heroine - Naruto and Sakura - was underdogs from beggining, both worked hard, even developed strong feelings/connection between them, both  where fighting their desteny [jinchuriki/weak woman] to become someone who worth of being friend/shinobi/hokage, and both ended up being mare tools in desteny of real main characters, and served as price for them.

Again...Obito Obito Obito.
 

So if that is the case, then the main character is not Naruto OR Sasuke, but Obito. Obito who brought true peace through war, who gained love of friends and influenced a whole new generation of people no matter evil he had done.

See how easy it is?

 

So basically, almost everyone is the MC and/or child of the prophecy except for Naruto and Sakura....

[NarutoUzumaki01]

What I am trying to say is that Kishimoto has basically went again even himself and his own words over the 15 years in the last two months. You really want to believe him now? You really believe that everything he says now is 100% truth, no lie, this is how it was since the beginning?

Alright. Personally speaking, the only thing I know at this point in time is that nothing is true anymore. Not even the fandoms that follow it. Most are just posers who cared more about pairings than they did about anything else and they hide behind their insults to cover up their insecurities knowing full well their biased views make them utterly narrow-minded.

I also know that people can use words to make anything a reality. The moment you start believing what Kishimoto is saying now is the moment that you start accepting this pitiful excuse of an ending.

Ofcourse not, I just put it in a way people would trying to justify it in future.

 

So basically, almost everyone is the MC and/or child of the prophecy except for Naruto and Sakura....

Yeah, because child of prophecy is getting all they want, and not working hard. 

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 22 December 2014 - 08:24 PM.

[FireFox]

   or No 

Kondo, Shogun, Zenzo, Gintoki.

 

Well, you right on part, but I bet Hagoromo and Hamura changed after they sealed Jubi in them too.

I hate you   .

 

SHOGUN KA YO !!! 

[Liu bie]

Plus this is suppose be NS week... yet I haven't heard much about NS.

You right i want to know, it seems we cannot recover so easily.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

I hate you   .

 

SHOGUN KA YO !!! 

So now I'm worst scumbag? It means there is Hinata near me 

Yeah, Shogun rocks!

[Tiller]

You right i want to know, it seems we cannot recover so easily.

 

I haven't heard any information honestly. No updates. What is NS week at this point? lol

[James S Cassidy]

So basically, almost everyone is the MC and/or child of the prophecy except for Naruto and Sakura....

That's the funny thing about prophecies isn't it? Nothing is ever specific and so generalized that it could mean anyone.

In fact, the prophecy that was given in the manga was only a partial...we never got the entire prophecy cause Naruto cut him off. Which could mean as well.

To go into even more fact, wasn't Naruto against the idea of destiny and predetermined fates? I guess that was hogwash since now apparently his entire story revolves around it. Again, Neji's entire life has been just crucified and burned for the sake of nothing.

Edited by James S Cassidy, 22 December 2014 - 08:35 PM.

[FireFox]

So now I'm worst scumbag? It means there is Hinata near me 

Yeah, Shogun rocks!

Watch yourself  @Akashi's gonna kill you   .

 

Yes he is  Shogun's episodes are one of the most funnier along with Kondo I still can't stop laughing when he stuck his kitten in the bathroom hole        .

[NarutoUzumaki01]

To go into even more fact, wasn't Naruto against the idea of destiny and predetermined fates? I guess that was hogwash since now apparently his entire story revolves around it. Again, Neji's entire life has been just crucified and burned for the sake of nothing.

So much about "succed previous generations" and "you choose your way of life" for 698 chapters, to be dismised by fate it 2 last chapters, eh?

[Nar123]

 
I haven't heard any information honestly. No updates. What is NS week at this point? lol

I heard NS week was beginning day 20 and ending day 27

It could be false tho
I guess its false

Edited by Nar123, 22 December 2014 - 08:37 PM.