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[六道仙人]

Trying to repair the kitten with the only toilet paper will even make worser.

 

 

Your condolences are accepted.  

(Sciemenze Politiche. Anzi, la triennale è andata ormai, ora è International Relations. Alla Luiss. Sono la figlia del demonio io eh.   )

 

 

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[Shadow1275]

 

I can't imagine the Otaku fandom alone being sufficient enough to compensate for all of the disinclined fans that have already left the series. They need to attract an audience large enough to fill the empty spaces that have been left as a result of the ending. 

Depends though. Sure fans are disenfranchised but I think Ramen mentioned that it was mainly bc of the lack of Sasuke and Kakashi. The Japanese might not like the ending, but it might be for different reasons than no Narusaku , they might just be pissed bc they didn't get to see their favorite characters.

[Chatte]

 

I can't imagine the Otaku fandom alone being sufficient enough to compensate for all of the disinclined fans that have already left the series. They need to attract an audience large enough to fill the empty spaces that have been left as a result of the ending. 

Sadly it is. That's the reality we live in. Why do you think Miyazaki criticizes them so much? 

[TouKen4Life3g]

If the creators of Avator were to go in battle with Kishi, I demand them to do ultra combo on him.

Anyway, I always see short hair equals new direction. Seriously, it was given for him to be that part 2 length if not longer. Where did they even indicate he wanted it that short.

[soshi]

 

Nah. Even if everythng tanks, they're committed to the new movie and the series. They should already be in production on both. Slots for both should already be reserved — the movie within the movie line up for releases at the end of next year, and the manga in SJ. The movie's release can be easier delayed than than the manga too. The manga is set up for print, for a certain number of pages, so they can't even flake out on a single page. It all has to be delivered, in its entirety, to the manga by the printing deadline. They won't just have another manga of exactly the right size to fit into the slot.

 

So what I'm saying is that even if the whooooole ending/movie gambit had tanked (which we know it didn't), they were already obligated to the Bolt manga and the movie. And by this point the storylines have been written, and they're already knee deep in production. To capitalize on the buzz they've created, they've got to keep things coming out a fast clip. 

 

We, the fans, are at a disadvantage because we are still reeling from how they've dismantled the series. But the reality is the people who put out Naruto (including Kishimoto) have already working on the next series. 

 

That's why I think there will be no hint of NS or revising the end of the series. No matter how much fans complain or sales slip. They are committed to this path. More than we, as mere fans, could ever understand. The marketing that we are witnessing now is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Naruto is no longer a story — it's a brand. It is a very, very big business.

 

And honestly, I think they are banking on gaining new fans instead of retaining the old. That's why they've made such a break with the story, ending the manga when clearly they weren't ending Naruto's story, and calling the movie "The Last" when clearly it wasn't.

you are right but I do not think that they will going to have more fans

[luffyq1]

Depends though. Sure fans are disenfranchised but I think Ramen mentioned that it was mainly bc of the lack of Sasuke and Kakashi. The Japanese might not like the ending, but it might be for different reasons than no Narusaku , they might just be pissed bc they didn't get to see their favorite characters.

i'm afraid this may be true. it seems like they were more pissed off for different reasons other than the blatant sexist and character assassinations.

[unhskikrforever]

Made this for The Project Thread! Thought I'll share it here as well!

 

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Ohmygosh. Great job! I don't know if it's too much to ask but can you change the font to Anime Ace? Maybe I'm just picky, but I think it'll look better with that font. LOL.

Edited by unhskikrforever, 22 December 2014 - 03:46 PM.

[tricksie]

you are right but I do not think that they will going to have more fans

 

Yes, I agree. I don't think this is going to work out well for them. 

 

I was just keep seeing the attitude on the boards that somehow Kishimoto or SP or anyone else will feel bad and change things. And for fans, it's a valid way to think, because we, ultimately, are the most invested in the story. But the people who create Naruto are invested in the business. 

 

Basically, it sucks for us.

 

But I think this is the beginning of the end for them. No matter how much they spin the new projects. I think it's all downhill from here.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I guess that report on Otakus are very effective than I thought. It's really a shame though, because it's such a turn off that I can't get invested with the works from there anymore. Well, except the movies standalone, especially from those directors, they're amazing. But I do feel like they are always on time with the world, not just Japan, the world. When you can please everyone, you got a winner in your work.

[tricksie]

I  don't know why there are people who still believe that Kishimoto is some kind of an innocent man who was victimized by the devil that is SP. The recent interviews make it clear this isn't the case.

 

Kishimoto is simply a man with a twisted view on women and love. SP just cashed in and used this ending to pander to their one and only favorite character.

 

I didn't get to respond to this yesterday, but I think this is so concise and true. This whole ending fiasco has revealed a lot about Kishimoto. The rest of them are running a business on the brand that is Naruto. But Kishimoto, the creator who could have stayed far away from the controversy and let SP look like bad guys if you hated it or good guys if you loved it. But Kishimoto exposed himself as being sexist and having a careless view of the series he created.

 

He personally added a whole new facet to the things I hate about the ending. 

[FireFox]

YAAAY! I'm one of the few, the proud, the brave!!
... LOL or you enjoy watching a character be obliterated right before your eyes....

Yeah but not when my favorite characters are the ones being obliterated  its painful  then  .

 

Oh well not that I give any kitten anymore Naruto is dead to me I can only rage and laugh at Kikitten's BS now  its not like the novels will change or justify how this ending happened it will only be more forced BS that came out of nowhere  .

[rocci]

Has there ever been a series like this?

The series title is named after the so called mc naruto. Since 698, it's about other characters.

Dragnball isn't called goku.

This all about the brand not the mc. Now kishi is going to write novels to make excuses. They are not about naruto.

I wish naruto fans would see this and stop supporting it. This isn't about naruto anymore.

At least chris and Byran knew mako and korra was very toxic.

Yes, there are a manga like that. It's called doraemon.
Another kishi favorite manga.

BUT IN DORAEMON THE PROTAGONIST ALREADY ESTABILISH IN CHAPTER 1.

Unlike naruto.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Kishi say he watched tons of movies and enjoyed them.

It only begs the question, did he watch them with his eyes closed?

[Atheck]

Depends though. Sure fans are disenfranchised but I think Ramen mentioned that it was mainly bc of the lack of Sasuke and Kakashi. The Japanese might not like the ending, but it might be for different reasons than no Narusaku , they might just be pissed bc they didn't get to see their favorite characters.

 

If their frustrations stemmed primarily from the lack of Kakashi and Sasuke involvement then they should be viciously attacking at Road to Ninja with knives and pitchforks as well since both characters were featured in promotional material only to be used as a contrivance for portraying the contrast between the Tskuyomi world and their reality for the beginning 10-20 minutes of the film. Odd, isn't it? That despite the shoddy appearances of these characters, the film could still drudge itself through the mud and reach over 4.0 in the ratings. There must have been another element to the movie that allowed these people to overlook their disappointment at the lack of those characters and appreciate the story and characters for how they were portrayed.

 

 

Sadly it is. That's the reality we live in. Why do you think Miyazaki criticizes them so much? 

 

Wow! So it's true, the majority of Japan's fanbase must be comprised of wanking Otakus who think with their genitalia and hormones instead of using their minds and common sense to judge what's best for the series. Pandering to the lustful and insecure isn't garnering them as much praise as they anticipated. This film's horrid ratings with the fans and their desperate attempt to mitigate the damage with automated/bribed reviews is proof of that. 

 

 

Nah. Even if everythng tanks, they're committed to the new movie and the series. They should already be in production on both. Slots for both should already be reserved — the movie within the movie line up for releases at the end of next year, and the manga in SJ. The movie's release can be easier delayed than than the manga too. The manga is set up for print, for a certain number of pages, so they can't even flake out on a single page. It all has to be delivered, in its entirety, to the manga by the printing deadline. They won't just have another manga of exactly the right size to fit into the slot.

 

So what I'm saying is that even if the whooooole ending/movie gambit had tanked (which we know it didn't), they were already obligated to the Bolt manga and the movie. And by this point the storylines have been written, and they're already knee deep in production. To capitalize on the buzz they've created, they've got to keep things coming out a fast clip. 

 

We, the fans, are at a disadvantage because we are still reeling from how they've dismantled the series. But the reality is the people who put out Naruto (including Kishimoto) have already working on the next series. 

 

That's why I think there will be no hint of NS or revising the end of the series. No matter how much fans complain or sales slip. They are committed to this path. More than we, as mere fans, could ever understand. The marketing that we are witnessing now is only the tip of a very large iceberg. Naruto is no longer a story — it's a brand. It is a very, very big business.

 

And honestly, I think they are banking on gaining new fans instead of retaining the old. That's why they've made such a break with the story, ending the manga when clearly they weren't ending Naruto's story, and calling the movie "The Last" when clearly it wasn't.

 

They can persist in trying to drive home this new series as much as they want. It doesn't detract from the reality of their malicious promotional tactics being exposed, Kishi's flip-flopping, the exhaustion from a disheartened fanbase that has been aching for the ending for some time now, and their poor-quality effort to restart the series with a cast of characters that no one is aware of and was obviously spawned with the interest of prolonging a tired-out series. 

 

While I do believe that it's unlikely, if this series doesn't meet up to their expectations financially and receptively, then it should lend them some perspective and help them to realise the trouble they're burdening themselves with over simply making a ending that coincided with the manga. Could anything come from such a realisation? It's possible. But we've become so disheartened by the lies that it would no longer matter to us. 

[milan kyuubi]

 

Ohmygosh. Great job! I don't know if it's too much to ask but can you change the font to Anime Ace? Maybe I'm just picky, but I think it'll look better with that font. LOL.

 

Your wish! My command!

Chapter 699 page 1

Read from left to right!

 

[TouKen4Life3g]

Haha, that post about the scale from Naruto to Korra is almost 4,000 notes. I should finish watching Korra...Christmas is almost here. I guess my phase with Naruto shall start soon enough. Lunch break should be a good break to post.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 22 December 2014 - 04:06 PM.

[rocci]

Kishi say he watched tons of movies and enjoyed them.

It only begs the question, did he watch them with his eyes closed?

No, he watch Michael bay movie.

To quote bay in the latest epic rap battle of history :
"This game is all about MOTHER kittening MONEY!!!!"

[六道仙人]

wtf? 

 

Did he answer back to himself?   That chatte's stalker....

[unhskikrforever]

 

Your wish! My command!

Chapter 699 page 1

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YEEEEEZZZ. Thank you! :)

[trang95]

No problem

Yup! I'm completely caught up with TG! Does TG usually release on Mondays? I hope so too. I posted in it way earlier this morning. Is there a way we could create a subforum specifically for the chapter discussions of manga outside of Naruto? I feel like it would be easier that way so those who don't want to be spoiled inside the discussion thread of the manga won't be, and it would be easier to find the discussions because it won't be cluttered by various surrounding topics.
XD this is true. Although, I will admit, Stephen A. looks great in that shirt and hat, his face is priceless

Check the Tokyo Ghoul thread, I replied to you: http://www.narusaku....topic=14269&hl=