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#3741 Traci

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 27 2012, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah offcurse thats why rolleyes.gif it doesnt matter which reason,what matters is which girl kishi chose to hug naruto happy.gif and just to note i was kind of surprized when NH where bashing sakura about how she screamed for naruto and how she punshed him when he came back( the way her bangs were covering her eyes made me think how much pissed off she was at him for making her worry so much wub.gif ) when they were supposed to thank her...if it wasnt for sakura hinata would have been dead,she healed hinata and that doesnt make any difference to them :cry:and wait a second...... headscratch.gif she seamed fine ,there werent even bandages covering her nothing at all ,sakura did a great job as usual a_thumbs.gif


Lots of people just ignore the fact that Sakura healed Hinata because Pain revived everyone. Granted, tbh, if Pain hadn't revived everyone, I'm pretty sure they would have ignored it anyway. People who hate Sakura aren't ever going to admit that she does good things and that she does have good character traits. They focus on the negative to make her look like the worst person ever.

EDIT: Pachuco said it better than I did lol.

Edited by Traci, 27 August 2012 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:24 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 27 2012, 01:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Funny how people doesn't credit Sakura for saving Hinata. Seriously... dry.gif

It's because people believe Nagato whould of revived her anyway, the reason I believe Kishi did that was to take a shot at the Hinata fanboys haven Sakura be the one to save Hinata or to highlight Sakura discomfort finding out that Hinata most love Naruto, if we notice in that panel she wasn't happy she had the same sad face Naruto had.

The 2nd option makes more sense.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:30 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 27 2012, 05:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here's the thing. Manga always ends with a romance. Or more like the last part to cover is romance. Look at FMA. I'm pretty sure there are other manga/anime that does this way. For whatever reason, I cannot think of more. It always find a way to squeeze in. Don't count Kishi out. He really put the bond as the main theme. We are covering plenty of types of bond. What we missing is romance. Sakura is the one.

I would explain more, but now, I am a little busy. If anything, I will get back to you.



I think or hope that after naruto defeats tobi, and sakura and the rest of team 11 arrives, that there is going to be a narusaku moment. But until Naruto hasnt brought back sasuke or defeats him i think there wont be any confession from Narutos side.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:34 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 27 2012, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's because people believe Nagato whould of revived her anyway, the reason I believe Kishi did that was to take a shot at the Hinata fanboys haven Sakura be the one to save Hinata or to highlight Sakura discomfort finding out that Hinata most love Naruto, if we notice in that panel she wasn't happy she had the same sad face Naruto had.

The 2nd option makes more sense.

I also think the 2nd option is the one. Which brings me to my question:

Do any of you think that Sakura will once again address that fact that Hinata is in love with Naruto? Will she just ponder about it in her head? Will she mention it to Naruto somehow?

It is a continuing theory that Sakura believes herself to be unworthy of being loved by Naruto. Do you think she could bring up the fact that she believes Naruto deserves a better girl than her?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:45 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 27 2012, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think the 2nd option is the one. Which brings me to my question:

Do any of you think that Sakura will once again address that fact that Hinata is in love with Naruto? Will she just ponder about it in her head? Will she mention it to Naruto somehow?

It is a continuing theory that Sakura believes herself to be unworthy of being loved by Naruto. Do you think she could bring up the fact that she believes Naruto deserves a better girl than her?



Why do you people always insist that Kishimoto is doing things to antagonize certain factions of their fanbase? Do you think he didn't already have this planned out long before he knew the reaction?
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#3746 Don-kun

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:51 PM

Good point PachucoDesigns, but I believe that redragon88 and myself believes that the 2nd statement makes more sense.



QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 27 2012, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I also think the 2nd option is the one. Which brings me to my question:

Do any of you think that Sakura will once again address that fact that Hinata is in love with Naruto? Will she just ponder about it in her head? Will she mention it to Naruto somehow?

It is a continuing theory that Sakura believes herself to be unworthy of being loved by Naruto. Do you think she could bring up the fact that she believes Naruto deserves a better girl than her?


If you're fan of Paptala's posts you will know that Sakura is one of Naruto's precious bond and along with Team 7 she save him from his lonely existence, while he also admited that them getting closer to each other in their pursuit to save Sasuke makes him Happy.

I believe that before Naruto confess his feelings to Sakura that topic will be addressed since Sakura might tell him about Hinata's feelings, Naruto might say that his heart belongs to someone else making Sakura who already knows who that someone else is say that she doesn't feel deserving of his love and question him on the why, forcing Naruto confess his feelings to her.

Edited by NS means logic, 27 August 2012 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:55 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Aug 27 2012, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why do you people always insist that Kishimoto is doing things to antagonize certain factions of their fanbase? Do you think he didn't already have this planned out long before he knew the reaction?

Sorry, I'm not really understanding the question. Could you rephrase it differently?

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 27 2012, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you're fan of Paptala's posts you will know that Sakura is one of Naruto's precious bond and along with Team 7 she save him from his lonely existence, while he also admited that them getting closer to each other in their pursuit to save Sasuke makes him Happy.

I believe that before Naruto confess his feelings to Sakura that topic will be addressed since Sakura might tell him about Hinata's feelings, Naruto might say that his heart belongs to someone else making Sakura who already knows who that someone else is say that she doesn't feel deserving of his love and question him on the why, forcing Naruto confess his feelings to her.

The seems like a possible scenario. Sakura could think that Hinata is a better girl than her to be with Naruto, but then Naruto will clearly say as to why Sakura is the one he truly loves.

Sakura could start stating her flaws which could include a comment about her forehead, then Naruto seals the deal by complementing it.

Edited by redragon88, 27 August 2012 - 08:01 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 27 2012, 03:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I'm not really understanding the question. Could you rephrase it differently?


The seems like a possible scenario. Sakura could think that Hinata is a better girl than her to be with Naruto, but then Naruto will clearly say as to why Sakura is the one he truly loves.

Sakura could start stating her flaws which could include a comment about her forehead, then Naruto seals the deal by complementing it.

Why Kishimoto will do things just to throw it in the Hinata fanboys face, we are behaving as if Kishimoto didn't plan all of this before.

Well I think Kishimoto did say that he just plan some new changes on the Summit arc so that nullifies his question, also Kishi's movies is another prove at him throwing shots at the fanboys or the vol., 61 where he said that he add Hinata because he needed a girl with big B when he already have Tsunade for that and also gave us another reason why he added Hinata's character in the Manga.

After all that being said, I still believe that he did that to highlight Sakura's discomfort finding out Hinata's feelings for Naruto.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Aug 27 2012, 10:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pairing wars are much the same as political campaigns. Give no credit to your opponent's shining points, and be absolutely certain to embellish and exaggerate their every flaw. It's all about gaining supporters while infuriating the other camp.


Don't you think that some of us do that to Hinata, like giving her no credit and exaggerating her flaws. Admittedly, Hinata/Naruhina fans seem to exaggerate her good points A LOT, but my original point still stands.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 27 2012, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why Kishimoto will do things just to throw it in the Hinata fanboys face, we are behaving as if Kishimoto didn't plan all of this before.

Well I think Kishimoto did say that he just plan some new changes on the Summit arc so that nullifies his question, also Kishi's movies is another prove at him throwing shots at the fanboys or the vol., 61 where he said that he add Hinata because he needed a girl with big B when he already have Tsunade for that and also gave us another reason why he added Hinata's character in the Manga.

After all that being said, I still believe that he did that to highlight Sakura's discomfort finding out Hinata's feelings for Naruto.


I'm sorry, but until I hear, verbatim, "I added this character/planned this event specifically to appeal to/vex a certain part of my fanbase," I believe those claims are ridiculous.

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Aug 27 2012, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Don't you think that some of us do that to Hinata, like giving her no credit and exaggerating her flaws. Admittedly, Hinata/Naruhina fans seem to exaggerate her good points A LOT, but my original point still stands.


Yes. Both sides do this. Both inflate and exaggerate the good points of their favored character, and both sides trash and exaggerate the negative points of their opposing character.

Edited by PachucoDesigns, 27 August 2012 - 08:29 PM.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:32 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 27 2012, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's fine.

So, what troubling you from NH fans? I got to say the funniest comment I saw last week was the one for PSP. "Hinata didn't hug Naruto at Konoha because she was hurt by Pain, so she watch him afar. That is why NH is true love."

well, there was one nh fan i thought was nice but now i find the person goes on a video just to hate on narusaku and saying all the stuff we say about road to ninja is lies facepalm.png

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:44 PM

QUOTE (PachucoDesigns @ Aug 27 2012, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm sorry, but until I hear, verbatim, "I added this character/planned this event specifically to appeal to/vex a certain part of my fanbase," I believe those claims are ridiculous.



Yes. Both sides do this. Both inflate and exaggerate the good points of their favored character, and both sides trash and exaggerate the negative points of their opposing character.


Well the part where I said that he was taking a shot to Hinata fanboys who constantly bash Sakura can be exaggerations, I want to believe that he created that scene to highlight Sakura discomfort finding out about Hinata's feelings.

About the rest, he did say something about Hinata in an Adult magazine one of the users who was translating the latest news for the movie did say that.
This part is because he probably is annoyed with Hinata's loud fans since he already gave us a reason why he created Hinata, but then the fact that he and the Anime Team are exposing her B so much lately does make people question his words.

And about Sasuke in a 2009 interview he did say that he just planed some changes on Sasuke's character in the Summit arc.
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Edited by NS means logic, 28 August 2012 - 12:01 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 28 2012, 12:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry, I'm not really understanding the question. Could you rephrase it differently?


The seems like a possible scenario. Sakura could think that Hinata is a better girl than her to be with Naruto, but then Naruto will clearly say as to why Sakura is the one he truly loves.

Sakura could start stating her flaws which could include a comment about her forehead, then Naruto seals the deal by complementing it.

I could acually see something like that happening wink.gif maybe on a hill or a top of a mountain infront of a sunset whatthekitten.gif the sun would be casting wub.gif ...well...u get the point

Edited by candycane-chan, 27 August 2012 - 08:49 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 27 2012, 08:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the part where I said that he was taking a shot to Hinata fanboys who constantly bash Sakura can be exaggerations, I want to believe that he created that scene to highlight Sakura discomfort finding out about Hinata's feelings.

About the rest, he did say something about Hinata in an Adult magazine one of the users who was translating the latest news for the movie did say that.
This part is because he probably is annoyed with Hinata's loud fans since he already gave us a reason why he created Hinata, but then the fact that he and the Anime Team are exposing her B so much lately does make people question his words.

And about Sasuke in a 2009 interview he did say that he just planed some changes on Sasuke's character in the Summict arc.
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Planning changes is one thing. Planning changes specifically to vex the fans is another. That is the behavior of a troll. A troll with a lot of time on his hands, I might add. And if that's actually the case, then frankly, I will have lost all respect for him.
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I promise that I will do everything that I can to be successful and a good person, to make you proud the way you would have wanted me to. No matter what I said, I loved you. And I will always love you. Rest in Peace, you will never be forgotten.

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 27 2012, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well the part where I said that he was taking a shot to Hinata fanboys who constantly bash Sakura can be exaggerations, I want to believe that he created that scene to highlight Sakura discomfort finding out about Hinata's feelings.

About the rest, he did say something about Hinata in an Adult magazine one of the users who was translating the latest news for the movie did say that.
This part is because he probably is annoyed with Hinata's loud fans since he already gave us a reason why he created Hinata, but then the fact that he and the Anime Team are exposing her B so much lately does make people question his words.


And about Sasuke in a 2009 interview he did say that he just planed some changes on Sasuke's character in the Summict arc.
This is real.


I thought he meant that he wanted at least one person in K11 to be ample, not that boobs were the entire point of her character. Like, he made her ample, and then he went from there. Eh, it doesn't really matter to me, since I try to take interviews with a grain of salt.

I, too, don't think it was meant to take a shot at the rude part of the NaruHina fandom. If he did say as payback, then I doubt it worked. Let me paraphrase a quote: "Ever since I noticed Hinata had more developed lady parts than the rest of her peers, I knew 100% that Hinata would end up with Naruto." Granted, this obviously doesn't represent the entire NH fan base. Even some NH fans were going, "Huh?"

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:25 PM

QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 27 2012, 05:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought he meant that he wanted at least one person in K11 to be ample, not that boobs were the entire point of her character. Like, he made her ample, and then he went from there. Eh, it doesn't really matter to me, since I try to take interviews with a grain of salt.


This part I will ignore it since I believe this fan need to grow up.
I, too, don't think it was meant to take a shot at the rude part of the NaruHina fandom. If he did say as payback, then I doubt it worked. Let me paraphrase a quote: "Ever since I noticed Hinata had more developed lady parts than the rest of her peers, I knew 100% that Hinata would end up with Naruto." Granted, this obviously doesn't represent the entire NH fan base. Even some NH fans were going, "Huh?"


That's sound ok, but I think that's a little mean toward a character, the Anime Team and himself are taking advantage of that aspect to expóse her B, something that annoys the non pervert fans since they hope that Hinata becomes one of the main characters and have a very importan role in the story, (not including those who only see her as Naruto future wife).

That's almost like when he said that he created Sakura to be hateful, but then he add that he will work on her character and give her more resolve.

The contrast between Sakura and Hinata, is that one was meant to be despicable and then loved by the fans while the other was just to show a Moe character to the readers, I honestly believe that those are some mean words for an Author to say about his character.

Edited by NS means logic, 27 August 2012 - 09:30 PM.


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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:41 PM

I honestly believe Kishi doesn't give a hoot about Hinata, he only wants her for fan service, to fill space in his manga, to have her for her breast (since he said it). With his comments about her I think he has thrown her character development out of the window. That's why I am not worried at all about Hinata's words at 573 because with the treatment Kishi has given her and the RTN movie I wouldn't be surprise if he trolls the NH fandom big time at the end.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Aug 28 2012, 02:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I honestly believe Kishi doesn't give a hoot about Hinata, he only wants her for fan service, to fill space in his manga, to have her for her breast (since he said it). With his comments about her I think he has thrown her character development out of the window. That's why I am not worried at all about Hinata's words at 573 because with the treatment Kishi has given her and the RTN movie I wouldn't be surprise if he trolls the NH fandom big time at the end.

are u certain that he said that huh.gif because it would make him look well..for him to say that about hinata is just ..well..wrong ( not that i mind rolleyes.gif ) and SP: i know that this is totally off topic sweatdrop.gif (sry) but i keep seeing people talking about this scene were sai tricks sakura into admitting that she admires naruto while both of them are watching him training in the rain i dont want a link or anything ,just want to know what sai told her

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 27 2012, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are u certain that he said that huh.gif because it would make him look well..for him to say that about hinata is just ..well..wrong ( not that i mind rolleyes.gif ) and SP: i know that this is totally off topic sweatdrop.gif (sry) but i keep seeing people talking about this scene were sai tricks sakura into admitting that she admires naruto while both of them are watching him training in the rain i dont want a link or anything ,just want to know what sai told her


oh well.....

sakura was watching naruto train with kakashi (learning to use his wind element) and naruto was having a hard time....
so she was saying that he tries to hard...
so sai pops up and says something like " yea....he does...doesnt he know thats hes just gonna fail in the end?"

this gets sakura upset and puts a hole in a tree and says that naruto might be stubborn but he never gives up so stop talking about him.

so then sai pulls out a book that says "how to get people to talk about their true feelings"
then she gets flustered

from what i remember XD

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 27 2012, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
are u certain that he said that huh.gif because it would make him look well..for him to say that about hinata is just ..well..wrong ( not that i mind rolleyes.gif ) and SP: i know that this is totally off topic sweatdrop.gif (sry) but i keep seeing people talking about this scene were sai tricks sakura into admitting that she admires naruto while both of them are watching him training in the rain i dont want a link or anything ,just want to know what sai told her

I think that was a filler moment sad.gif and when she gave him gross treatment Sweets or whatever, also filler. Or I don't remember seeing it in the manga. Sai said something like Naruto is just a pain. She defended him so well <3

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