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[NarutoUzumaki01]

It was a red herring!!

Then what was Kishimoto's bs about finishing Naruto after Pein arc? LMAO

[Liu bie]

It was a red herring!!

But NS was the most beautiful red herring.  

[ichigo500]

 

 

 

 

 

In NF they are talking that Oro might kidnap Salad, prompting Sasuke to go after him with bolt secretly going with him.

 

hahahaha a kidnapping ! 

I wonder where SP find all this inspiration ! 

I mean, in almost EVERY Naruto movie, someone attempt or actually kidnap someone and the MC (it will be Sasuke's role now) has to save him 

[DeathGodMack]

Is it Wong to still have faith in kish since his contracts ends in 2015?

[Tsuki Hoshino]

LOL I think I might need my doctor to prescribe me anti-nausea medicine. 

[ichigo500]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here 

 

http://www.narutofor...0&postcount=393

 

 

 

 

"Naruto" isn't a story about Naruto becoming acknowledged after a lonely and tragic childhood, it isn't a story about said boy achieving his dreams. It is all centered around the sauce

 

tell me, this is Takl comment right? not Kishi's ? => .in short 'Naruto' is a story about bringing back Sasuke from the sulk.

[Atheck]

are they changing the name of the anime/manga to sasuke? why did kikitten create naruto if he truley hates him THAT much? if he based naruto on himself i'm seeing some major self-destruction/ self-hate issues. we don't care that you hate yourself kishi commit suicide! and leave naruto alone!, and let SP make NS happen!

 

Maybe it has something to do with Junko's recent hesitancy in continuing to voice Naruto? She's already recant her old assurance to Kishi that Naruto's child would be voiced by her. Perhaps she's decided to take it one step further by stopping all future involvement with the series after the ending. Without their primary character's voice actress, they would need to either find a replacement or situate the character further back so that his voice isn't needed as much. 

[Nar123]

tell me, this is Takl comment right? not Kishi's ? => .in short 'Naruto' is a story about bringing back Sasuke from the sulk.

Good question, I don't know

[dejavu]

Im lost..

Can someone please enlighten me?

I saw takl's post on nf but is that really Kishimoto talking or some of it were just a fan comment by him?


EDIT LOL I GET IT NOW. THANKS LIU BIE

Edited by dejavu, 22 December 2014 - 12:36 AM.

[Liu bie]

Some Assassin's Creed words for Kishi.

 

And in their glorious New World Order, there won’t be any room for broken toys like us!

Daniel Cross.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Well, tak surely loves twisting words, but whole message it pretty one-sided, don't you think?

[Chatte]

Apparently about the tweet with Junko silencing Kishimoto: it's fake.

[luffyq1]

Apparently about the tweet with Junko silencing Kishimoto: it's fake.

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[NarutoUzumaki01]

Apparently about the tweet with Junko silencing Kishimoto: it's fake.

Source?

[Shadow Wolf]

Congrats Kishi, you became exactly like Sasuke:

-Left the logical decision for a stupid reason
-Listened to everybody else except the people with the correct advices.
-Ruined everything around with an obsession that made no sense at the end.
-Had so much potential only to let it go to waste over a selfish goal
-And proved that you're just a pathetic excuse for whatever you say and do.

Keep it up, You're becoming more and more like your beloved Sauce

[TerrorKing]

So Naruto was never really the main character? That actually explains alot. It explains why Sasuke was the one narrating the ending, it explains why Sasuke was never really punished, it explains why he got the girl and it explains why everyone were always making excuses for him and his psychotic clan. 

 

It still sucks though. I mean, why not just change the name of the manga to "Sasuke"? At least then there would be no misunderstandings, but I guess that that was also just a part of the red herring. 

 

 

So right. None of them are happy.

 

And I don't know how Hinata fans could be satisfied with anything — Hinata is a completely different person than she was in the manga. She's still a non-entity, but now she's a housewife instead of a shy shinobi. But at least before she had a purpose and a reason for evolving. Now all of those things are apparently gone. She isn't once shown as someone who is a leader of her clan, someone fulfilling Neji's legacy and someone brave enough to live Naruto's nindo and change the traditions of her clan. She's a housewife. She has no more story other than being a sweet quiet wifey.

 

And yeah, with NH looking all formal it could be seen as Naruto marrying into a tradition old clan. But the person he's married seems to have forgotten she was even in a clan to begin with!!

I don't think they care honestly. I know this doesn't apply to all NH fans, but the way I see it, NH was always about Hinata getting to be Naruto's wife. Her clan and her shinobi career did not factor into it at all. Mutual development? Doesn't matter. All that matters is that Hinata deserves Naruto because she's cute and nice and because she always liked Naruto.

 

Now as I mentioned, this is only a portion of the NH fanbase and it's most likely only the loud minority. I know that there are NH fans out there who wanted more from her. They wanted to her take up Naruto's nindo and improve herself and they wanted her to be someone who could stand beside Naruto as his equal and as someone who truly understans and supports him. They wanted to see Naruto and Hinata develop a deep understanding based on trust and respect. Basically everything that made NS such a great pairing.

 

If that is how NH had been portrayed in the manga, then I would most likely have been an NH fan, because those traits are what made me fall in love with NS in the first place.

 

Unfortuneately, that is not Kishi's understanding of love. To him, love is simply a matter of hope and if you just hope enough, the man of your dreams will eventually recriprocate you feelings and then you can go and have children and live the rest of your life as his loyal wife.

 

Don't get me wrong. It's not that I have anything against women who choose to be a stay-at-home mom. I think women should be allowed to be do whatever they please, as long as it makes them happy. The problem here is that Sakura and Hinata are not real women and that this is not the boring old real world. These are fictional characters in a world centered around a central theme and that theme is ninjas. As such, you except them to behave like ninjas and to put their career as ninjas before anything else. Sure they can always retire and then become housewives, but for f**cks sake, this is the ending of the series. At least let us part with them in a manner that calls back to how we used to know them and then you can show them as housewives in part 3.

 

So yeah, nothing wrong with being a stay-at-home mom. I just expected more.

 

And yeah, it really does seems like Naruto is marrying into a clan, which only makes this ending seem even more sloppy. First he gives Hinata this really complex clan background, but then he forgets it for like rest of the story but now it's suddenly relevant again? And for what? So that he can show them in a traditional clan marriage thing? I don't get it.

Edited by TerrorKing, 22 December 2014 - 01:29 AM.

[FireFox]

Apparently about the tweet with Junko silencing Kishimoto: it's fake.

Really ? Source ?  

 

That would also mean he remains firm on Hinata's wanking , but not that it would matter anyway since well you know Sakura is a "terrible woman" . Either way that video of Junko saying that what Naruto likes to do most in his free day of is to go on a date with Sakura is more then enough for me .

[luffyq1]

Congrats Kishi, you became exactly like Sasuke:

-Left the logical decision for a stupid reason
-Listened to everybody else except the people with the correct advices.
-Ruined everything around with an obsession that made no sense at the end.
-Had so much potential only to let it go to waste over a selfish goal
-And proved that you're just a pathetic excuse for whatever you say and do.

Keep it up, You're becoming more and more like your beloved Sauce

lol kishi was never like naruto, but more like sasuke his beloved main character. 

[tricksie]

Looks like Kishi said in JF that Naruto's journey ended when he saved Sasuke.

Basically Naruto was just a plot device to save the true MC of the story.

 

So does that mean that "The True End" chapter really was the true end for Kishimoto? 

 

Eh, I could see it. Kishimoto loves his tragedies. The series was never about romance. So I could see that he wouldn't care one bit about completing Naruto or Sasuke's storylines.

 

And yeah, unfortunately, Sasuke has been driving this plot since the beginning. So it's terrible to admit Naruto was a plot device, but that's what he's been for a long time.

 

I think Kishimoto fell in love with his antihero and lost perspective on his hero.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

So does that mean that "The True End" chapter really was the true end for Kishimoto? 

 

Eh, I could see it. Kishimoto loves his tragedies. The series was never about romance. So I could see that he wouldn't care one bit about completing Naruto or Sasuke's storylines.

 

Same here, considering he effectively pissed on their stories in the end of the series. =/