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#37441 bthug

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 04:44 AM

Also doesn't cause we have a naruto movies coming after the anime, we know that sasuke will not hit naruto with chidori



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 04:45 AM

Because SP is completely biased toward NaruHina, which is annoying ._.

Nah, Hinata hasn't been relevant since she tripped (not a hinata hater)

And Sasuke is definitely Asexual/NaruSasu.

See now you say that but it's not like we haven't seen them go out of their way to promote NaruSaku in the past as well. I'm not saying that all this NaruHina promotion isn't due to some bias from Sp but  we should definitely consider the possibility that's it's not.

 

 

What if NaruHina becomes canon? What does that say about what we've seen in the manga in the past?


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Posted 25 October 2014 - 04:55 AM

See now you say that but it's not like we haven't seen them go out of their way to promote NaruSaku in the past as well. I'm not saying that all this NaruHina promotion isn't due to some bias from Sp but  we should definitely consider the possibility that's it's not.
 
 
What if NaruHina becomes canon? What does that say about what we've seen in the manga in the past?


then it will surely be a by- product

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:00 AM

@Liu bie:

 

Tsunade was going to give him a chance. You can tell by her dialogue after he left,  saying that Jiraiya didn't have to put a front for her anymore and that she was "through running". It wasn't bluntly stated, but it was a little obvious to me what she meant. :ermm:  I agree Tsunade was never in love with Jiraiya, but she had some sort of feelings for him. She just didn't acknowledge or feel it until it was too late.

 

You can't really compare that to Dan. Tsunade was actually in a relationship with him and from what we can gather it was a loving one. It makes sense why she had stronger feelings for him. Her thing with Jiraiya was a "what-if", a possibility of her maybe finding love again one day. That just didn't happen because of plot. Whatever she felt for Jiraiya wasn't given time to blossom.

 

That's what's ironic about the Naruto/Sakura parallels. All 3 of NaruSaku's parallels had varying degrees of romanticism to it, the strongest example being MinaKushi. ObiRin was kept up to interpretation and JiraTsu was only subtly hinted, but you see potential in them even though they failed.

 

None of the failed NS parallels feel like simple friendship and NaruSaku is the one that progressed the most other than MK. That's why I find it funny when people still think it will have the same ending.


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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:09 AM

What if NaruHina becomes canon? What does that say about what we've seen in the manga in the past?

It says more about Kishi's writing than what we've seen. If we don't get any closure, like I pointed out, it will say even more about it. As in, he's willing to throw red herrings around for seemingly no reason than to throw the audience off the end result. In other words, he uses the worst method possible to try to be 'unpredictable' and 'edgy', which is what crappy writers do.



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:09 AM

@romance girl
Another NS parallel is yahiko x konan and hashimito.

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:12 AM

I have one question,


what did Minato mean by "Take care of my son"

in 631??

was it just to heal him ...or...like what NH fans expected from Neji

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:15 AM

Heal him. Or if you use shipping google, minato blessing.

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:18 AM

Heal him. Or if you use shipping google, minato blessing.


well no shipping goggles please


but MS translation was like "I leave him in ur capable hands"

it could be highly misinterpreted

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:20 AM

I think it already convey when the chapter come out.
I see it as heal him. But I will not surprise if there is a double meaning for it.

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:24 AM

I think it already convey when the chapter come out.
I see it as heal him. But I will not surprise if there is a double meaning for it.



but the anime had sub "Please go easy on him"


and yep there can be double meaning...

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:29 AM

The way I see it is if you  have doubts that's fine your entitled to them. But sometimes it comes off as since I have doubts everyone should have them. And I'm not trying to call anybody out but it just gets tiring reading all of the negativity and doubting on a board that's meant to be a place to enjoy a certain ship instead of hearing how the other ships are going to be canon or did you hear what they said this time. There's only 2 weeks left, just try to ride out the story and get some sort of enjoyment out of it.



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 05:49 AM

@rocci:

 

I don't consider YahiKonan or HashiMito real NS parallels. Their relationship dynamics and history are either really vague or nonexistent .

 

Konan being the female of the team, treating Yahiko's injuries, and Yahiko being like Naruto isn't much. Hashirama being like Naruto and Mito having Sakura's and Tsunade's seal is even less. You need more evidence to make a parallel IMO. ObiRin, JiraTsu, and MinaKushi all had heavy samples of personality similarities, interactions, and backstory/beginning. They're the strongest examples.

 

I don't disagree with you. If HashiMito and YahiKonan had ever been elaborated on, I'm sure they would have NaruSaku parallels too. But when it comes to shipping proof, you should probably stick to the other three.


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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:06 AM

I have one question,


what did Minato mean by "Take care of my son"

in 631??

was it just to heal him ...or...like what NH fans expected from Neji

is minato blessing because sakura is like kushina



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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:08 AM

my first instinct was that it was a blessing in a kind of blatant way.

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:14 AM

my first instinct was that it was a blessing in a kind of blatant way.



loool blatant

@tonga1 shipping goggles :P

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:14 AM

@Lui Bie
In that chapter when she heard he died or whatever her words made it seem like she was willing to give him a chance if he made it back to me.

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I don't rememeber the chapter but it was after Jairaya died when fighting Pain, and the words Tsunade said, I guess it's up to how you want to take it and interpret it.

First I believed an wanted  that, but then in Tsunade's  dream Jiraiya was alive that is telling me you never had a chance, but in the end we have different opinion.


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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:40 AM

Someone mentioned that the way minato worded it, it's usually something a parent would say to her/his future son/daughter in law.
 
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Posted 25 October 2014 - 06:50 AM

Someone mentioned that the way minato worded it, it's usually something a parent would say to her/his future son/daughter in law.


tbh, yeah! I felt like that as "Take care of my son" can't just be percieved in many ways...
it can be just like heal him or a blessing

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Posted 25 October 2014 - 07:32 AM

No even a chance she would give him . Sad but true She always will love Dan and only him. The evidence the IT dream.

 

Not really. Tsunade's dream it's pretty vague. She's just walking besides Dan happy that he's the Hokage. As would be expected since she always regretted that Dan died before being Hokage. And then her attention shifts to Jiraiya.

 

Kishi left it vague enough that people can choose to interpret Tsunade's dream as they wish. It could be romantic but it could as well not be, nobody can claim to be 100% right. That's why Tsunade's dream it's not as overly romantic as the ones from Hinata, Lee, Ino and even Mei.






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