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#3701 Jake

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:44 AM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Aug 25 2012, 07:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to barge in on your debating. Just for a minute, can any of you tell me what's wrong with this post from a NH shipper?

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Because what the boy feels matters less than what the girl feels. Ultimately, if a girl loves one boy more than another, it doesn't matter if she loves the other boy at all. Because she will, in the end, choose the one she loves more. You can't compare the two genders' feelings because they simply aren't on par.


I kinda see their argument if it was coming from a pure Anti-NS stance, but using it in an argument for NH or SS headscratch.gif after all it doesn't matter how much the girl loves the guy if the guy does not reciprocate her feelings a relationship might be started but it won't end well.

QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 25 2012, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could you please ask him why the girl's feelings matter more than the boy's feelings in a relationship between equals? Actually, I'm not sure I want to read his reasoning...


Please do ask, I have got to hear this.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:46 AM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Aug 26 2012, 02:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to barge in on your debating. Just for a minute, can any of you tell me what's wrong with this post from a NH shipper?


so sexist mad.gif and i am not that surprised if its from a NH fanmmmm...well he or she are one of those who rely on her constant and NONSTOPPING LOVE rolleyes.gif for naruto but forget about his feeling and asume that they arent real and thet he would GET OVER Sakura and REALIZE tha hinata is the GIRL OF HIS DREAMS that she has always been SUPPORTING HIM ( huh.gif secretly from behind a tree or under a window) thats why those kind of paricular NH fans dont care how signifisint is feeling ( the male) are compared to hinata ( the female) because her resolve is so much GREATER rolleyes.gif yeah sry no mean to bash NH fans but some ( most) of them think that way sleep.gif

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 01:43 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Aug 25 2012, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You sure that came from a NH fan? headscratch.gif


i'm very sure of it. And it was a direct response to my post, in the defense of NS.

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 25 2012, 01:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This does not make any sense at all.
the love coming from a boy matters and it matter a lot.


Agree.


QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Aug 25 2012, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So... The boy's feelings don't matter huh? I wonder how many relationships this brod has been in.


I asked myself the same question. But of course it would be an direct insult if i was to post that directly.


QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 25 2012, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Could you please ask him why the girl's feelings matter more than the boy's feelings in a relationship between equals? Actually, I'm not sure I want to read his reasoning...


I did to hundred different type of shippers during the last pairing war i was in. They believed that Sasuke will choose Sakura when he's been redeemed, because Sasuke still love him. And they believe that once Naruto can't have Sakura. Hinata is going to work her magic on Naruto and win his affection lol.

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 25 2012, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm going to assume that person is referring only to how romantic feelings work in the point of view of fictional stories. If that person is implying that's how it works in real life then that's just plain retarded.

But still, even if that person is only referring to the developments in works of fiction that assumption is still wrong. In every work of fiction the feelings of the main protagonist are the ones that matter the most, regardless of what gender they are.

So far Naruto has only shown interest in Sakura. That, in and of itself, makes it the most likely paring even without taking into account the monumental amount of development they have mutually shared within the story.


But one o them beleive that what NS has is not but a filial relationship. Ridiculous with all the parallels between Naruto and Sakura.


QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 25 2012, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so sexist mad.gif and i am not that surprised if its from a NH fanmmmm...well he or she are one of those who rely on her constant and NONSTOPPING LOVE rolleyes.gif for naruto but forget about his feeling and asume that they arent real and thet he would GET OVER Sakura and REALIZE tha hinata is the GIRL OF HIS DREAMS that she has always been SUPPORTING HIM ( huh.gif secretly from behind a tree or under a window) thats why those kind of paricular NH fans dont care how signifisint is feeling ( the male) are compared to hinata ( the female) because her resolve is so much GREATER rolleyes.gif yeah sry no mean to bash NH fans but some ( most) of them think that way sleep.gif


It happens to be like that. They simply ignored both Naruto and Sasuke's feelings. And i try reasoning with them about this. The same old loop hole all over again.


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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:12 AM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Aug 25 2012, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>




I asked myself the same question. But of course it would be an direct insult if i was to post that directly.




Point being? She/he practically just insulted every male that has an interest in women on the planet. I think it wouldn't hurt to have a little pay back.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:33 AM

Look, I understand the concept of both girls getting what they want in the manga, but we cannot and I mean absolutely cannot count Naruto's feelings out at all. The main protagonist's status already grant him to be the main focus to win everything he wants/desires/wishes. How is it that Naruto has to be the one that will be shattered by Sakura? How is it that Naruto can win everything he set on except love interest? How is it that Naruto has to be the only guy to let go of his feelings? I don't buy it at all.

I am always a Naruto fan and always support him to overcome the odds. He really speaks to me and to hear that something like love interest can be the only one that he can give up on is ridiculous. If that's the case, why Kishi continues to have Naruto asking dates? Why he still have feelings for Sakura? Why he doesn't drop it? Why? Because HE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!

I hate how people doesn't support the main character Naruto. Look, I am all fine if you like other pairings, but to say something that Naruto has no chance or he must be the one to quit is no doubt ridiculous. If Naruto loses Sakura to Sasuke, then what was the point of our support to Naruto? Yeah, he can become a Hokage, saves Sasuke, and surpass Kakashi, but not getting love. See how weird it sounds. Again, Kishi recently reminded us that Naruto is still in love with Sakura.

Not everyone wins, but Naruto must be the winner because of the representation of the theme: never giving up, believe yourself, overcome the odds, and so on. Kishi even told us to keep supporting Naruto. Not the manga, the main protagonist. Now let me ask you this. Noticed that Hinata's confession is hardly mentioned in any other media. Why? Because it was only effective to Hinata's character, not the story. And guess what, they showed Sakura's hug in there. Why? Because it follows the story. Whose story? Naruto! Even her confession was kept, not to mention him saving Sakura in bridal style. Funny thing is that other media ignore SasuSaku's part. If there's any, it would be the last talk with the "Thank you".

Now ask yourself. Why so much support on NaruSaku from the anime studio who is biased with all the Hinata love? Why many movies with NaruSaku fanservice? Why games show and add NaruSaku fanservice? Why one special promotional ova have NaruSaku towards the end when the manga is almost to the end? Why, out of all people, did Kishi made a movie with bunch of NaruSaku moments as well as ignoring NaruHina and trolling further SasuSaku?

Let's face it, Hinata is only a character with development that needed closure or rather, just got one. Nothing more. We all made it sound like she's there throughout the whole manga so far. Sasuke, well, he's Sasuke. All of part 2 development so far is about SasuNaru, nothing else. Sakura and Sasuke conflict was horrible and not one good came out of it. Not even Sasuke feeling bad at all. Hardly a dialogue. At. All. So why Naruto has to quit? Hm. After all, Naruto and Sakura are really close friends. Nobody in that relationship shows hatred to each other and both of them has shown interest from each other. Why they have to drop it? Ok. I'm done ranting.

Btw, it's pretty nice to type while listening 2012 One Piece opening "We Are!" 111189.gif

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 25 2012, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look, I understand the concept of both girls getting what they want in the manga, but we cannot and I mean absolutely cannot count Naruto's feelings out at all. The main protagonist's status already grant him to be the main focus to win everything he wants/desires/wishes. How is it that Naruto has to be the one that will be shattered by Sakura? How is it that Naruto can win everything he set on except love interest? How is it that Naruto has to be the only guy to let go of his feelings? I don't buy it at all.

I am always a Naruto fan and always support him to overcome the odds. He really speaks to me and to hear that something like love interest can be the only one that he can give up on is ridiculous. If that's the case, why Kishi continues to have Naruto asking dates? Why he still have feelings for Sakura? Why he doesn't drop it? Why? Because HE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!

I hate how people doesn't support the main character Naruto. Look, I am all fine if you like other pairings, but to say something that Naruto has no chance or he must be the one to quit is no doubt ridiculous. If Naruto loses Sakura to Sasuke, then what was the point of our support to Naruto? Yeah, he can become a Hokage, saves Sasuke, and surpass Kakashi, but not getting love. See how weird it sounds. Again, Kishi recently reminded us that Naruto is still in love with Sakura.

Not everyone wins, but Naruto must be the winner because of the representation of the theme: never giving up, believe yourself, overcome the odds, and so on. Kishi even told us to keep supporting Naruto. Not the manga, the main protagonist. Now let me ask you this. Noticed that Hinata's confession is hardly mentioned in any other media. Why? Because it was only effective to Hinata's character, not the story. And guess what, they showed Sakura's hug in there. Why? Because it follows the story. Whose story? Naruto! Even her confession was kept, not to mention him saving Sakura in bridal style. Funny thing is that other media ignore SasuSaku's part. If there's any, it would be the last talk with the "Thank you".

Now ask yourself. Why so much support on NaruSaku from the anime studio who is biased with all the Hinata love? Why many movies with NaruSaku fanservice? Why games show and add NaruSaku fanservice? Why one special promotional ova have NaruSaku towards the end when the manga is almost to the end? Why, out of all people, did Kishi made a movie with bunch of NaruSaku moments as well as ignoring NaruHina and trolling further SasuSaku?

Let's face it, Hinata is only a character with development that needed closure or rather, just got one. Nothing more. We all made it sound like she's there throughout the whole manga so far. Sasuke, well, he's Sasuke. All of part 2 development so far is about SasuNaru, nothing else. Sakura and Sasuke conflict was horrible and not one good came out of it. Not even Sasuke feeling bad at all. Hardly a dialogue. At. All. So why Naruto has to quit? Hm. After all, Naruto and Sakura are really close friends. Nobody in that relationship shows hatred to each other and both of them has shown interest from each other. Why they have to drop it? Ok. I'm done ranting.

Btw, it's pretty nice to type while listening 2012 One Piece opening "We Are!" 111189.gif

Pfft, have you forgotten the new NaruHina rule? Naruto and Sakura CAN'T date because they're too good of friends. Am I the only one who gets a headach from these rabbid NH fans who come up with excuses like THIS?

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:06 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Aug 25 2012, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pfft, have you forgotten the new NaruHina rule? Naruto and Sakura CAN'T date because they're too good of friends. Am I the only one who gets a headach from these rabbid NH fans who come up with excuses like THIS?


Nope! And don't forget this "argument": Naruto doesn't love Sakura because it hasn't been confirmed since before Sakura's confession. Since in order to love someone you must be thinking about them 24/7 like Hinata does.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:10 AM

The late Ann Landers, a famous advice columnist for decades, had this to say about love:

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“Love is friendship that has caught fire. It is quiet understanding, mutual confidence, sharing and forgiving. It is loyalty through good and bad times. It settles for less than perfection and makes allowances for human weaknesses.”


Or if you prefer Bruce Lee:

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“Love is like a friendship caught on fire. In the beginning a flame, very pretty, often hot and fierce, but still only light and flickering. As love grows older, our hearts mature and our love becomes as coals, deep-burning and unquenchable.”


Honest, true love can only be realized when it is mutual and given without reservation. Naruto and Sakura already love each other. Romance will be the icing on the cake.




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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:14 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Aug 25 2012, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Pfft, have you forgotten the new NaruHina rule? Naruto and Sakura CAN'T date because they're too good of friends. Am I the only one who gets a headach from these rabbid NH fans who come up with excuses like THIS?

No....Way! omfg.gif

It makes sense. No, seriously, I don't understand. Did anyone forget that true love is when a guy would do anything for the other one to be happy rather for themselves? Not to mention that the man would present the smile in a unique way. Look at all the smiles Naruto shows to Sakura. Now compare it to the recent Hinata's interaction. Normal "cool" guy smile. Not the "I'm so happy that you're happy" smile.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:47 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 25 2012, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No....Way! omfg.gif

It makes sense. No, seriously, I don't understand. Did anyone forget that true love is when a guy would do anything for the other one to be happy rather for themselves? Not to mention that the man would present the smile in a unique way. Look at all the smiles Naruto shows to Sakura. Now compare it to the recent Hinata's interaction. Normal "cool" guy smile. Not the "I'm so happy that you're happy" smile.

Yeah... I'm just kinda curious how a relationship starts in their eyes. Jessica and I were good friends before I asked her to go out with me, and I felt like I could tell her anything, and I could. One time I did something bad and I had to tell someone because I couldn't bear the burden on my own shoulders. I told her about my littlse incodent at school the next day and she understood and helped me get over my problem. I could tell her anything, I could share anything, and I could just be... me around her. The only thing I had trouble with was telling her how much I loved her, but she already knew what I felt, she was just waiting for me to bring up the topic because she cut me off when I was trying to tell her how I felt... I've already got a ring picked out for her as well... *sigh* ever wish you could go back and do it all over again?

It takes a friend to become a best friend, it takes a best friend to become a boy/girlfriend, it takes a boy/girlfriend to be a fiance (don't think I spelled that right) and it takes a fiance to be a husband/wife.Face it NH fans, NaruHina and SasuSaku has nothing like that.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 09:35 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Aug 25 2012, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Point being? She/he practically just insulted every male that has an interest in women on the planet. I think it wouldn't hurt to have a little pay back.


It's really not that simple, because OneManga Forum is full with bias NH and SS shippers with a lot of mods supporting those two fanbases. But if you guys want to know my response. Here's what i said to that.

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I'm not the only who'd said this to you, but it does take not one, but two people to start a relationship. So please get your facts straight. Now you know why NS are not on the same page as NH and the SS fanbases. NS cares for not one but two of their characters' feelings, while you guys only think about Sakura and Hinata without so much as a thought about Naruto and Sasuke feelings at all. Bravo! sleep.gif


Thanks for your guys input. 111191.gif You may continue your other topic prior to this one, or you can continue on with it a_thumbs.gif

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:50 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 26 2012, 06:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No....Way! omfg.gif

It makes sense. No, seriously, I don't understand. Did anyone forget that true love is when a guy would do anything for the other one to be happy rather for themselves? Not to mention that the man would present the smile in a unique way. Look at all the smiles Naruto shows to Sakura. Now compare it to the recent Hinata's interaction. Normal "cool" guy smile. Not the "I'm so happy that you're happy" smile.

not just that we alreadysaw him when he was looking at her in the beginning of part 2 when she smashed the ground with big sparkling eyes wow.png and when she was healing kankuru( i dont think i spelled him right) and in part 1 he whenever he sees her u see his eyes turn sparkly or heart shaped wub.gif we never see him give anyone not even hinata these looks...but offcurse some NH say:well he probably gave her that smile Offscreen,,,,,,OFFSCREEN facepalm.png how desperate are they fu.png but wait a minute he stopped asking her on dates so they are brother and sister now right...WRONG rawr.gif theyre in a war now how could he possibly think about dates wot.gif

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 26 2012, 08:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not just that we alreadysaw him when he was looking at her in the beginning of part 2 when she smashed the ground with big sparkling eyes wow.png and when she was healing kankuru( i dont think i spelled him right) and in part 1 he whenever he sees her u see his eyes turn sparkly or heart shaped wub.gif we never see him give anyone not even hinata these looks...but offcurse some NH say:well he probably gave her that smile Offscreen,,,,,,OFFSCREEN facepalm.png how desperate are they fu.png but wait a minute he stopped asking her on dates so they are brother and sister now right...WRONG rawr.gif theyre in a war now how could he possibly think about dates wot.gif


Apparently he has to be like Hinata who thinks about being in a relationship with Naruto even in a war. down.gif

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 02:06 PM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Aug 26 2012, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apparently he has to be like Hinata who thinks about being in a relationship with Naruto even in a war. down.gif

yeah i kow right rolleyes.gif during the war when naruto fights ooohhh look hes not thinking about sakura so he likes hinata(what the mellow.gif ) when sakura saves a kid...so what now she is less useless then before( seriously dry.gif kishi just proved that she is suited to be the main female ) and when hinata doesnt think about the village but states that shes just fighting for naruto there like..HINATA is so cool go save your man again ( they keep forgetting that her so called fight with pain was a ressiling match that lasted 15 seconds) offcurse iam not talking about all ( yes i am happy.gif )the NH fans

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:27 PM

I always thought a telling page was chapter 535 page 7



when he emerges and uses his sage mode he searches out his important people and there is one person who according to some is an important person to him who is conspicuous in her absence.

I just bought volume 57 recently and this came to mind

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:35 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 26 2012, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought a telling page was chapter 535 page 7



when he emerges and uses his sage mode he searches out his important people and there is one person who according to some is an important person to him who is conspicuous in her absence.

I just bought volume 57 recently and this came to mind


i thought they were going to include hinata on the anime version but for my surprise they did not.
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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:38 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 26 2012, 06:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought a telling page was chapter 535 page 7



when he emerges and uses his sage mode he searches out his important people and there is one person who according to some is an important person to him who is conspicuous in her absence.

I just bought volume 57 recently and this came to mind

sry i only recognize sakura wub.gif and kakashi and ...is that gai sweatdrop.gif but who are the others

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 03:56 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Aug 26 2012, 10:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
sry i only recognize sakura wub.gif and kakashi and ...is that gai sweatdrop.gif but who are the others

It looks like Sakura... Gai...and Shikamaru... But idk about the others.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Aug 26 2012, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It looks like Sakura... Gai...and Shikamaru... But idk about the others.

The only people important to Naruto there are Sakura, Kakashi, Gai and Shiakamru.

The rest are dead ninja and dead zetsus, and also Kimimaro fighting samurai but that's just to showcase the many battles going on.

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Posted 26 August 2012 - 06:31 PM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 25 2012, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Look, I understand the concept of both girls getting what they want in the manga, but we cannot and I mean absolutely cannot count Naruto's feelings out at all. The main protagonist's status already grant him to be the main focus to win everything he wants/desires/wishes. How is it that Naruto has to be the one that will be shattered by Sakura? How is it that Naruto can win everything he set on except love interest? How is it that Naruto has to be the only guy to let go of his feelings? I don't buy it at all.

I am always a Naruto fan and always support him to overcome the odds. He really speaks to me and to hear that something like love interest can be the only one that he can give up on is ridiculous. If that's the case, why Kishi continues to have Naruto asking dates? Why he still have feelings for Sakura? Why he doesn't drop it? Why? Because HE WILL NEVER GIVE UP!

I hate how people doesn't support the main character Naruto. Look, I am all fine if you like other pairings, but to say something that Naruto has no chance or he must be the one to quit is no doubt ridiculous. If Naruto loses Sakura to Sasuke, then what was the point of our support to Naruto? Yeah, he can become a Hokage, saves Sasuke, and surpass Kakashi, but not getting love. See how weird it sounds. Again, Kishi recently reminded us that Naruto is still in love with Sakura.

Not everyone wins, but Naruto must be the winner because of the representation of the theme: never giving up, believe yourself, overcome the odds, and so on. Kishi even told us to keep supporting Naruto. Not the manga, the main protagonist. Now let me ask you this. Noticed that Hinata's confession is hardly mentioned in any other media. Why? Because it was only effective to Hinata's character, not the story. And guess what, they showed Sakura's hug in there. Why? Because it follows the story. Whose story? Naruto! Even her confession was kept, not to mention him saving Sakura in bridal style. Funny thing is that other media ignore SasuSaku's part. If there's any, it would be the last talk with the "Thank you".

Now ask yourself. Why so much support on NaruSaku from the anime studio who is biased with all the Hinata love? Why many movies with NaruSaku fanservice? Why games show and add NaruSaku fanservice? Why one special promotional ova have NaruSaku towards the end when the manga is almost to the end? Why, out of all people, did Kishi made a movie with bunch of NaruSaku moments as well as ignoring NaruHina and trolling further SasuSaku?

Let's face it, Hinata is only a character with development that needed closure or rather, just got one. Nothing more. We all made it sound like she's there throughout the whole manga so far. Sasuke, well, he's Sasuke. All of part 2 development so far is about SasuNaru, nothing else. Sakura and Sasuke conflict was horrible and not one good came out of it. Not even Sasuke feeling bad at all. Hardly a dialogue. At. All. So why Naruto has to quit? Hm. After all, Naruto and Sakura are really close friends. Nobody in that relationship shows hatred to each other and both of them has shown interest from each other. Why they have to drop it? Ok. I'm done ranting.

I agree that its completely ridiculous to think that Naruto is the one who is going to give up on his feelings. The utter disregard and dismissal of Naruto's feelings for Sakura are one of the things that make me the most frustrated with some NH/SS shippers.

Naruto is the main character, his feelings have been portrayed just as seriously as the girls' feelings, and he's had those feelings just as long as the girls.

Plus, Naruto is the person who canonically has the power to change people's hearts - so why do people think its more likely that Hinata is going to change his heart and that Sakura is going to change Sasuke's heart? They have no basis to think this, especially given the fact that Naruto and Sasuke have never shown anything beyond friendship for the girls ever.
QUOTE (KnS @ Aug 25 2012, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The late Ann Landers, a famous advice columnist for decades, had this to say about love:
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“Love is friendship that has caught fire. It is quiet understanding, mutual confidence, sharing and forgiving. It is loyalty through good and bad times. It settles for less than perfection and makes allowances for human weaknesses.”


Or if you prefer Bruce Lee:
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“Love is like a friendship caught on fire. In the beginning a flame, very pretty, often hot and fierce, but still only light and flickering. As love grows older, our hearts mature and our love becomes as coals, deep-burning and unquenchable.”

Honest, true love can only be realized when it is mutual and given without reservation. Naruto and Sakura already love each other. Romance will be the icing on the cake.

These quotes are so unbelievably apt - they just outline so much about what I love about Naruto and Sakura's relationship, especially the first one. It's based off strong friendship. There is understanding between them, even if its not always explicit.

There is forgiveness from both sides for mistakes and arguments - like Sakura never blaming Naruto for hurting her in KN4 mode, or them getting past their argument at the summit, for example.

And this ties in to the fact that neither character is perfect, and their relationship isn't either. They accept each other, flaws and weaknesses and imperfections and all. Because they've been through so much together, and known each other for so long, that they do know these less than admirable qualities about one another. They've seen each other at low moments. But none of that has changed how much they care abut the other, and how the other's happiness and safety is a priority.
QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 26 2012, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I always thought a telling page was chapter 535 page 7



when he emerges and uses his sage mode he searches out his important people and there is one person who according to some is an important person to him who is conspicuous in her absence.

I just bought volume 57 recently and this came to mind

Interesting observation. This reminds me of the arguments that NH's last interaction means Naruto's feelings are changing because there was more focus on the NH save than the NS save rolleyes.gif

Naruto didn't show anything romantic there for Hinata at all - the thank you was the long-awaited response to Hinata's actions during the Pein fight, closing up that part of Hinata's character development. Because ultimately, that's all I think Hinata's feelings for Naruto are really about - her own character development.

Naruto's complete lack of non-platonic/romantic interest in Hinata, her lack of involvement in his life and in the story overall, and her focus on her own feelings rather than Naruto's, all seem to point to the fact that this is about Hinata, not NH. Given this is the arc where so many character's are getting loose threads tied up, I really do think this arc is where her feelings are going to be completely resolved.
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