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#37061 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:33 PM

No no. Its the series I am talking about and not the game. This time its a bit different. I have very little faith that the series will have a canon pairing as such. I am just relying on a miracle for that....but the odds are different this time. Serena is shown to have a crush on Ash right from the start of the series and they have been given wonderful development and some beautiful moments :D I just hope that this time...the odds being different....I just hope by some miracle they announce a pairing. If not...well...I'd still ship it XD I really like that pairing XD

I know, but when they announce a new game, new series comes along. That said well at least they're doing something nice here for the time being. If only we run out of ideas, then we can finally end the anime.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:40 PM

I know, but when they announce a new game, new series comes along. That said well at least they're doing something nice here for the time being. If only we run out of ideas, then we can finally end the anime.

Its okay if the series doesn't end as such. Serena can still follow Ash on his adventures like Pikachu :D Its a really really beautiful pairing, Serena especially :wub: But....NS still lives on and so does Sakura :D Still my OTP though :D

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:41 PM

irk. rinse and repeat is their motto. sry serena fans xD.

Don't you say that XD

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:47 PM

Its okay if the series doesn't end as such. Serena can still follow Ash on his adventures like Pikachu :D Its a really really beautiful pairing, Serena especially :wub: But....NS still lives on and so does Sakura :D Still my OTP though :D

Well, we can hope for that.

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:48 PM

Originally had this on facebook, but I am putting this here because I feel something for it...The Naruto fandom in general lost something important.

We have lost something....we all have lost the true meaning to Naruto's story in favor of a harem. We have reduced all of Naruto's meanings, goals, aspirations, and messages all in favor of "Who is Naruto going to end up with and make babies?" We stopped caring about the plot or the story integrity. If it has nothing to do with the pairings, then the panels mean nothing. Hell, the Naruto fandom doesn't even care about the movie plot, but rather if NS or NH are going to get together in the end. That is really sad. We are so worried about our pairing becoming canon that we have blocked out everything else in the story. We have blocked out the true meaning of the story in favor of "OMG Hinata gave Naruto a scarf." It is absolutely ridiculous. I am NS fan, but it's days like this I wish I was never apart of all of this. It is days like this that I wonder whether the fandom really are Naruto fans because they only care about one thing anymore.

The Naruto manga is supposed to be about Naruto...not Sakura, not Hinata....Naruto and we forgot that. We forgot that he is the main character because we have favoritism to others and it clouds our judgement. I have read so many manga of my time and am probably gonna read so many more. We lost the idea that the main character is supposed to be the one who succeeds. Not some secondary characters who really have very little purpose to the story.

Let's no forget about him and focus how he will achieve his goals. To begin with it and remember him, guys Naruto's appreciation topic waiting t to reach her queen.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 03:53 PM

I hope that gamefreak gets serious with the designs of the gen 7 poke'mon. granted A LOT the privious generations are really cool, but some are just silly. I mean... Ice cream? Garbage? Balloons? Keys? Candles? Whats next a bar of soap? (please don't do it gamefreak) and If they make a clock then I am NOT going to make  beauty and the beast references.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:01 PM

Well, we can hope for that.

Most certainly :D

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 04:58 PM

Originally had this on facebook, but I am putting this here because I feel something for it...The Naruto fandom in general lost something important.

We have lost something....we all have lost the true meaning to Naruto's story in favor of a harem. We have reduced all of Naruto's meanings, goals, aspirations, and messages all in favor of "Who is Naruto going to end up with and make babies?" We stopped caring about the plot or the story integrity. If it has nothing to do with the pairings, then the panels mean nothing. Hell, the Naruto fandom doesn't even care about the movie plot, but rather if NS or NH are going to get together in the end. That is really sad. We are so worried about our pairing becoming canon that we have blocked out everything else in the story. We have blocked out the true meaning of the story in favor of "OMG Hinata gave Naruto a scarf." It is absolutely ridiculous. I am NS fan, but it's days like this I wish I was never apart of all of this. It is days like this that I wonder whether the fandom really are Naruto fans because they only care about one thing anymore.

The Naruto manga is supposed to be about Naruto...not Sakura, not Hinata....Naruto and we forgot that. We forgot that he is the main character because we have favoritism to others and it clouds our judgement. I have read so many manga of my time and am probably gonna read so many more. We lost the idea that the main character is supposed to be the one who succeeds. Not some secondary characters who really have very little purpose to the story.

While you're correct you're are also wrong. People stopped caring about the plot and the story because the plot, the story, the messages etc. are utter garbage.

The only thing that still have some interest are the pairings. It's sad I know, but it's all Kishi's fault or his superiors for telling him what to do and he has to do it.

We all know that the main character will eventually get what he wants. Even the NH/SS fanbase knows this on some level. But people stopped caring about what the main character wants because at one point it just got annoying and uninteresting. And people would ratter focus on the pairings something that's still somewhat interesting.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:05 PM

While you're correct you're are also wrong. People stopped caring about the plot and the story because the plot, the story, the messages etc. are utter garbage.

The only thing that still have some interest are the pairings. It's sad I know, but it's all Kishi's fault or his superiors for telling him what to do and he has to do it.

We all know that the main character will eventually get what he wants. Even the NH/SS fanbase knows this on some level. But people stopped caring about what the main character wants because at one point it just got annoying and uninteresting.

I stopped caring about the plot because the plot isn't worth caring about anymore. Plus, a big percentage of the plot is Sasuke chasing anyway.

 

But I won't lie, I'm only reading (barely) the series for some Sakura and some ship teasing just so I can see which side wins in the end. Yeah, I know it's bad, but idc. Series is gonna end soon anyway so that's good. 

 

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:15 PM

While you're correct you're are also wrong. People stopped caring about the plot and the story because the plot, the story, the messages etc. are utter garbage.

The only thing that still have some interest are the pairings. It's sad I know, but it's all Kishi's fault or his superiors for telling him what to do and he has to do it.

We all know that the main character will eventually get what he wants. Even the NH/SS fanbase knows this on some level. But people stopped caring about what the main character wants because at one point it just got annoying and uninteresting. And people would ratter focus on the pairings something that's still somewhat interesting.

Whether you feel the plot is garbage or not is only a personal opinion rather than a objective one. The objective thing is though that despite what the plot is, we still just can't abandon it in favor of selective focusing. People stopped caring about the plot a long time ago around the Pein arc and really focused on the pairings more because Kishimoto stepped up the drama with Hinata's confession. That's when people I feel forgot the plot in general. They forgot that Naruto is the main character and then complain when no other character is making an impact. Well, did Bulma make much of an impact in Dragonball or was the entire focus on Goku?

From my understanding though, the pairing wars have become garbage as well with the pairing drama not making any sense either. People rather rely on "potential facts" rather than actual facts that the plot has shown. They are not even focused on the actual pairing plot either and are more focused on what they believe they see and not what is. Let's be honest, we are not even paying attention to what is really there.

Take example what Sasuke said in chapter 693. He says he doesn't love Sakura, but some repeatedly make the claim that it is some complicated love affair where he is "afraid to love." However, it might just be as simple as him just not caring or doesn't see Sakura that way if he sees her in any way at all. I have seen people try to pull the idea of the snowflakes behind Hinata's picture as some symbolic metaphor for NaruHina somehow. So even the pairings wars have become a joke at this point and really people are just yelling at who is a better girl for Naruto rather than whether or not Naruto will succeed where the rest have failed.

The fact is this book isn't about Sakura or Hinata, but we are trying so hard to make it sound like the whole story focuses them when it is not supposed to. Of course, there are many who never focused on the plot in the first place.

What is the original intention of the manga plot? It's not a harem so it can't be about the love focus.

Probably should change the title of this book to "Who wants to marry the luckiest loser?" or something...XD

It's like....reading a Superman comic and wondering if Batman will come in and save the day. Batman can make an appearance, but the comic isn't about Batman. If people wanted to see Batman, why not read Batman comics? Same concept here, if people wanted to see real love drama...why not read a harem instead?


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:18 PM

I stopped caring about the plot because the plot isn't worth caring about anymore. Plus, a big percentage of the plot is Sasuke chasing anyway.

 

But I won't lie, I'm only reading (barely) the series for some Sakura and some ship teasing just so I can see which side wins in the end. Yeah, I know it's bad, but idc. Series is gonna end soon anyway so that's good. 

 

lol

I said this before but I was actually thinking about dropping it only to discover after a few days later that it's ending. lol

Sakura makes Naruto readable.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:27 PM

Same here. Stopped caring about -SASUKE- Shippuden ages ago.  :facepalm:

 

I still keep up with the series to see if Naruto will get a decent ending, i.e managing to save Sasuke, becoming Hokage (and, of course, witness NS finally becoming canon), etc.

Well, I can't blame Kishi for how his story turned out. I respect him for all the hard work he put in it.. it was a good ride, but I won't lie, I'm happy that it's finally approaching its end.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:32 PM

I like the part with Sasuke (he's a plot tumor, but at least he entertains me) :sweatdrop: , and the little tiny bits with the side cast that doesn't revolve around Naruto, the part with Naruto doesn't interest me as I don't like the title character anymore.

 

This manga would have been much better if it hasn't been so Naruto (and Sasuke) centric.



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:35 PM

Whether you feel the plot is garbage or not is only a personal opinion rather than a objective one. The objective thing is though that despite what the plot is, we still just can't abandon it in favor of selective focusing. People stopped caring about the plot a long time ago around the Pein arc and really focused on the pairings more because Kishimoto stepped up the drama with Hinata's confession. That's when people I feel forgot the plot in general. They forgot that Naruto is the main character and then complain when no other character is making an impact. Well, did Bulma make much of an impact in Dragonball or was the entire focus on Goku?

From my understanding though, the pairing wars have become garbage as well with the pairing drama not making any sense either. People rather rely on "potential facts" rather than actual facts that the plot has shown. They are not even focused on the actual pairing plot either and are more focused on what they believe they see and not what is. Let's be honest, we are not even paying attention to what is really there.

Take example what Sasuke said in chapter 693. He says he doesn't love Sakura, but some repeatedly make the claim that it is some complicated love affair where he is "afraid to love," but it might just be that as simple as him just not caring or doesn't see Sakura that way if he sees her in any way at all. I have seen people try to pull the idea of the snowflakes behind Hinata's picture as some symbolic metaphor for NaruHina somehow. So even the pairings wars have become a joke at this point and really people are just yelling at who is a better girl for Naruto rather than whether or not Naruto will succeed where the rest have failed.

The fact is this book isn't about Sakura or Hinata, but we are trying so hard to make it sound like the whole story focuses them when it is not supposed to. Of course, there are many who never focused on the plot in the first place.

What is the original intention of the manga plot? It's not a harem so it can't be about the love focus.

Probably should change the title of this book to "Who wants to marry the luckiest loser?" or something...XD

I have a better title but I'm holding it for my next rant.

While it's true that Kishi stepped up the drama with Hinata's confession he never followed it through. He did Hinata's confession then 1 million chapters later he did the hand holding and nothing in between. Not even a talk. It's just Kishi going "Here's Hinata." and everyone loses their minds over a moment that means nothing when you step back and take in look at the big picture.

You are correct the pairing war it turned out to be garbage because one side (us) have facts while the other side only has their own personal interpretation.

 

About the bold part. I honestly can't tell you because not even the writer himself doesn't know or at least not anymore. I'm sure he did when he create this story but now "it slipped his mind". :wink:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:35 PM

Rookies never got the development they deserved..  :hm:



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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:39 PM

Rookies never got the development they deserved..  :hm:

The bond between Naruto and Sasuke didn't get the development it deserved, Sakura didn't get the development she deserved, Sasuke didn't get the development he deserved, hell even Hinata didn't get the development she deserved (she did get development in part 2 but it wasn't where she needed it). And so many other characters didn't get the development they deserved. 


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:39 PM

Rookies never got the development they deserved..  :hm:

I agree.  They were yamshaed :cry: :cry: .

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:41 PM

Lol once Naruto ends, I'm never getting involved in a shipping war. I'll just hold out hope that before OP ends, we get to see a little Monkey D. Ace being carried around by Nami, but that's as far as I'll go.


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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:42 PM

Rookies never got the development they deserved..  :hm:

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Posted 22 October 2014 - 05:43 PM

Lol once Naruto ends, I'm never getting involved in a shipping war. I'll just hold out hope that before OP ends, we get to see a little Monkey D. Ace being carried around by Nami, but that's as far as I'll go.

You're on the winning side though.

 

Luffy getting with anyone just sounds weird to me. :umm:






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