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[luffyq1]

Soon?

She'll wake up in final chapter I think.

i feel the same way. 

Edited by luffyq1, 21 October 2014 - 05:18 PM.

[BlazingDynamo]

i think she'll wake up when the fight is over, along with the rest of the shinobi.

Yeah the Naruto vs Sasuke fight will still continue unless one person wins

 

Soon?

She'll wake up in final chapter I think.

Ehh I don't think so.

[TouKen4Life3g]

So strange seeing that image. The reason why I'm saying it because in the next Treehouse I believe will have Bart dressed as Naruto. What a incredible strangest coincidence I ever witnessed...

[DarkRadeon]

Do you guys think fight will end next chapter?Because if it doesn't then we have only 1 chapter for all the other stuff coz 698 will be half fighting again

Edited by DarkRadeon, 21 October 2014 - 05:27 PM.

[abloublou]

I just want Sakura to wake up and go to battlefield where N-S fights.Then kick Sasuke in the balls.

That privilege belongs to Karin.

Not that it'll ever happen either.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Do you guys think fight will end next chapter?Because if it doesn't then we have only 1 chapter for all the other stuff coz 698 will be half fighting again

No. Nope. Not happening.

You may thank me later.

[Akashi]

No. Nope. Not happening.

You may thank me later.

I really hope that's not the case... Naruto's running out of chakra, so it should be over soon. Unless Naruto tries TNJ v.2, meh~

[Swagkura]

I really hope that's not the case... Naruto's running out of chakra, so it should be over soon. Unless Naruto tries TNJ v.2, meh~

The power of friendship and bromance will always prevail when it comes to Naruto
The fight will probably be over by chapter 698, since 699 is the final chapter.

[Liu bie]

I just want Sakura to wake up and go to battlefield where N-S fights.Then kick Sasuke in the balls.

It is not going to happen at least happen this:

 

Then in part 3 of this doujin release the yin seal. I hope the author think that.

 

[Princess Iris]

If Sakura doesn't wake up ....


the story will be worst ...in terms of Sakura as heroine

[Silent Storm]

While I am fairly sure NaruHina won't happen, I won't say anything with certainty till the very last chapter.

 

To me it comes down to the the level of importance each character has towards Naruto. Hinata has feelings for Naruto, but her level of importance and screen time in comparison to Sakura with Naruto is too infrequent and lacks substantial follow ups. She had one plot centered around Neji and the hyuuga clan, and once resolved Kishimoto pushed her into the background and went back to developing NaruSaku. She confessed to Naruto before potentially dying which affected him (and could have killed everyone but that's a story for another day) but Kishimoto didn't follow up on it either. 615 was her last important scene with Naruto which caused him to regain his composure and fight again. Like always, no follow up or hinting towards Naruto's changing feels occurred, rather 631 happened which dealt a heavy blow to common NaruHina arguments about Hinata = Kushina. In-between all those moments Kishimoto decided to develop the NaruSaku relationship on a platonic level. We see the growth of their relationship in casual settings and then we see how much Sakura cares for Naruto.

 

In stories (mainly harem) where there are multiple girls attracted to the same guy, the author spreads out development and character interaction between all potential love interests to keep viewers interested, yet in almost all of these stories, there is still one female whose level of importance with the main character trumps that of everyone else in the circle, and it's that female that likely ends up with the main character. While that's not usually the case and another female (sometimes authors introduce one female where the character is initially attracted to them, but for whatever reasons it doesn't work out and and another is introduced and they receive substantial development) ends up with the main character, what sets these apart from NaruHina is that in all cases, the main character and the female still had significant amounts of development and interaction for it to be believable, and thus her level of importance gradually trumped that of every other female aiming for the same thing. In this case, Sakura's level of importance towards Naruto from the beginning till now has always trumped that of Hinata's and that's a fact you can't argue. The main character always favours one female over the rest and usually never has their feelings change for that one female despite there being other options available.

 

This is why you hear comments of the Japanese liking one pairing but conceding that NaruSaku is likely endgame. Like in those harem stories, one character's level of importance trumped that of another and they got more shared character development with the main hero and that's the kind of stories they're used to. They still ship other pairings, but usually don't actively try and defend their ship and argue for canon because they know the level of importance of their preferred female is significantly lower than that of the main heroine. If Kishimoto makes the other two canon, then he wasted ink and panel time developing NaruSaku and showing their similarities only to cop out and pair Sakura off with a character who didn't feel the same way for the majority of the story. Naruto, for all his efforts repeats the cycle of talentless loser who couldn't get the girl of his dreams so ends up with nothing or instead is paired off with a character who's level of importance to him was insignificant to him and like Sasuke, showed zero romantic interest or hinting towards.

 

The same applies to SasuSaku as well. Sakura's level of importance has ALWAYS been miniscule to Sasuke's character, goals and motivation, but for the sake of themes and rivalry, she was made to love him over Naruto (which gradually changed over the course of the manga but the feelings are still there in some way) so it wasn't easy for Naruto to fight and win her heart. Despite loving Sasuke, her importance towards his character was so irrelevant to his own development and bonds that you could take her out of the picture and nothing about his character would change in a significant way. Hinata is not something Naruto had to struggle to get nor was she ever paralleled / compared to any other character in the series.

 

"Quality over Quantity" is a common argument I see NaruHina pull to try and discredit NaruSaku, because the "NaruHina moments" were all emotionally charged and changed Naruto in a "significant way". What they fail to realise is despite all of that, Hinata's level of importance with Naruto remained the same along with all the other rookies, because Kishimoto didn't intend for Hinata to be his love interest. Her character is too Naruto-centric and appearances infrequent throughout the story, and Kishimoto was deliberate in keeping that the same.

 

NaruHina at the end of the day has always been about Hinata more than Naruto. Hinata draws inspiration from Naruto and his nindo, but in no way does her character affect Naruto in a significant way that he'd be romantically interested in her. Naruto and Sakura are both similar in goals, desires and personalitities, and Kishimoto showed us that through their day to day interactions outside of missions. NaruHina does not have that luxury but insteads leeches off Hinata admiration and love for Naruto. Adding to that, saying Hinata "always cared for Naruto since the start and believed in him" are all irrelevant because despite having those feelings, Hinata did not make any effort to reach out to Naruto and "help fill his lonely existence". Hinata also hasn't been shown to support any of Naruto's dreams and ambitions, where Sakura, the main heroine has been shown to.

 

That's not to say I hate it or Hinata on the same level as SasuSaku. For all it's faults, NaruHina has remained positive and lacks the antagonism and indifference of SasuSaku. NaruSaku is still the superior ship because the foundations for a platonic relationship are established and they share similar personalities and goals. They also have balance, something both NaruHina and SasuSaku lack. :)

Edited by Silent Storm, 21 October 2014 - 06:11 PM.

[Akashi]

The power of friendship and bromance will always prevail when it comes to Naruto
The fight will probably be over by chapter 698, since 699 is the final chapter.

Yeah next chapter fight/tnj, 698 Sasuke's saved, IT released.. 699 epilogue. The worst-case scenario is if the fight will end in 699.

All I want atm is Kishi showing Sakura waking up & reflecting on her life choices.

[luffyq1]

it's not impossible that this fight could end on the last chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I wonder if others could see a large clash that's about to be unleashed. I mean it's not that far.

[Swagkura]

it's not impossible that this fight could end on the last chapter.

It's not, but they still need to release people from the IT. That's probably gonna have to take a whole chapter to do. And I don't know how their gonna get down in the first place, since their all attached to a giant tree.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Is out this Thursday as before, right?

[luffyq1]

It's not, but they still need to release people from the IT. That's probably gonna have to take a whole chapter to do. And I don't know how their gonna get down in the first place, since their all attached to a giant tree.

naruto and sasuke will make up on the last chapter and release the shinobi from the IT. that's my scenario if naruto and sasuke last until the last chapter.

[Akashi]

Lol would be fun to see battle over next chapter. haha as if

[DarkRadeon]

naruto and sasuke will make up on the last chapter and release the shinobi from the IT. that's my scenario if naruto and sasuke last until the last chapter.

The last chapter of 39 pages is the epilogue.I don't think there is an extra chapter with it.The fight has to end because its just pointless spamming of OP attacks

[Akashi]

The last chapter of 39 pages is the epilogue.I don't think there is an extra chapter with it.The fight has to end because its just pointless spamming of OP attacks

Wait, wasn't it supposed to be 39-pages epilogue (semi-epilogue?) AND special chapter?

Edited by Tauriel, 21 October 2014 - 06:56 PM.