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#3661 TouKen4Life3g

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 06:59 PM

I think they at least aren't mislead by mistranslations. And yes, there are a lot of mistranslations with SK.
 
When Obito talks about Karin and Sasuke, in some translations he says "she is useful", but in the original he says "she is Sasuke's favourite".
Karin didn't really say she liked being stabbed by Sasuke either.

I know all of that, it's just that I want to know where they stand. I heard from someone that they're actually good amount of them. I guess in here, it's one of the most hated one, for well you know...but maybe I'm not seeing it clearly.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:02 PM

to my last understanding its a relatively popular pairing in Japan, related to the story itself, much like NaruSaku/

 

the fandom basically understands where Kishimoto sensei is going with the story and supports it in that regard and as a functional pairing. others may be cuter or more fun to imagine but they remain just that imagination.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:12 PM

You can't really trust polls, but ItaSaku is indeed very popular. There are many Sakura pairings that are popular.

Reason why I believe this poll to either have a biased audience or BS is because there is no SasuNaru. Unless this was a poll for only hetero pairings

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:20 PM

Parallels and the New Generation Surpassing the Old - Why it Supports NS and not SS or NH by Paptala.

 

http://paptala.tumbl...passing-the-old

 

Wow This post is just so full of win!!!! 

 

About this one post.

 

there is something about parallels that truly enforces them.

 

the prime parallel that we use the Minato rescuing Kushina from tobi, and the Naruto rescuing Sakura from Sasuke.

 

What truly cements this parallel is that the Author did the Naruto to sakura part FIRST.

 

the Minato to Kushina part was done second. The Past parallel was done to reinforce the Future one in this case.

 

When an author does that hes saying ""See this action? This *point to past parallel* is why this action is important.

 


 


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:30 PM

don't you think it would be kind of ridiculous if after all the  narusaku development it ended up just being a quick mention in the epilogue

sorry I have my bad moments with others series and with that I  wish won't happen that.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:31 PM

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This is an answer to your question regarding what the japanese forums say about sakuras confession. Im not japanese but i've been doing alot of research in the japanese fandom, made alot of japanese friends, read alot on their opinions on sakuras confession and its positive, nothing like the western fanbase at all, they acknowledge sakuras confession as true and sincere amd what she did was right, and some others are at a loss to what to say and say time will tell in the manga, some have just simply discussed that sakura confessed to naruto and went to kill sasuke but failed and naruto came and saved her. Nothing negative, i've passed by two posts that said they think sakura was lying, but many other users said that sakura said she wasnt gonna make anymore mistakes and that she was being honest. No negativitey or bashing whatsoever.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:38 PM

Since Kishimoto has already said Sakura was not lying about loving him, it's not really up for debate anymore. :ermm:

 

The fact that many people got it all wrong, and that the confession was just cut off leaves me thinking it will be brought up again. Naruto understood by Sai's words, but I want him to hear it from Sakura.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:43 PM

You can't really trust polls, but ItaSaku is indeed very popular. There are many Sakura pairings that are popular.

Reason why I believe this poll to either have a biased audience or BS is because there is no SasuNaru. Unless this was a poll for only hetero pairings

 

Now that you mention the popularity of ItaSaku it reminds me of a few reviews we saw when Road to Ninja came out a year ago. One of them mentioned that when Itachi carried Sakura many girls in the theater screamed.

 

Still, this seems to be a very biased voting poll considering the votes for the other pairings.

 

Hey, just like NaruSaku4life I'm also curious about where does the japanese fandom stands with SasuKarin. Do they like it from a story perspective?

 

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Thank you for providing more detail in regards to their perspective of Sakura's confession. I guess even some of them are as confused as we are and still wait for the day the manga will finally finish addressing it all.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 07:58 PM

As I said above a few posts they seem to see it from a story perspective. They understand its development and place in the story well enough and while it ahs both its uber fans and detractors its understood.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:02 PM

@Redragon88

This is an answer to your question regarding what the japanese forums say about sakuras confession. Im not japanese but i've been doing alot of research in the japanese fandom, made alot of japanese friends, read alot on their opinions on sakuras confession and its positive, nothing like the western fanbase at all, they acknowledge sakuras confession as true and sincere amd what she did was right, and some others are at a loss to what to say and say time will tell in the manga, some have just simply discussed that sakura confessed to naruto and went to kill sasuke but failed and naruto came and saved her. Nothing negative, i've passed by two posts that said they think sakura was lying, but many other users said that sakura said she wasnt gonna make anymore mistakes and that she was being honest. No negativitey or bashing whatsoever.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Did you happen to find out what they thought about the Minato interactions in 631? I've heard various different interpretations of it, but all of them came from biased western fans who have learned (or are in the process of learning) Japanese.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:11 PM

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Did you happen to find out what they thought about the Minato interactions in 631? I've heard various different interpretations of it, but all of them came from biased western fans who have learned (or are in the process of learning) Japanese.

Yes in fact, this is what they said:

 

ナルトは黙ってサクラの話を聞いています・・・それができるのってナルトがサクラを完全に信頼してるからなんだろうと思います。 この2人の信頼関係はもはや形に表す必要も無いほどに!強く強固なものなんだ!!

Translation:I think Naruto would do such because I fully trust Sakura You say can and it ... I have heard the story of Sakura remained silent Naruto. The trust relationship of these two people as much as there is no need to display the shape of any more! I do a thing to a strong strong! !

 

Also: 父親から彼女認定キタ━(゚∀゚)━!

 
 
ありがとうございます!ありがとうございます!
 
 
 
 
さらにさらに!サクラがクシナに似てる発言キタ━(゚∀゚)━!
本当にコレが伏線だったとは・・・・
 
岸本先生ありがとう・・・
 
 
 
 
彼女言われて否定しないサクラ!まんざらでもないのか。
これじゃあミナトからはカップルにしか見えぬぞ(笑)
 
 
 
こういうさりげないナルトの気遣いもいいですねえー
 
この2人にもう言葉などいらないのだ!
 
Translation: From her father certification Kita ━ (° ∀ °) ━!
 
 
Thank you! Thank you!
 
 
 
 
More, Save More. Remarks Northern ━ Sakura is similar to Kushina (° ∀ °) ━!
This was foreshadowing really ......
 
Thank you Kishimoto sensei ...
 
 
 
 
Sakura do not deny it is said her! Whether nor altogether bad.
This peace'll not to see only a couple from the port (laughs)
 
 
 
Care of Naruto not such casual er is good
 
I do not need such words anymore this two people!
 
I gotta say, the japanese really are truly kishi's main fanbase, i mean, they support it, and know its the endgame. Narusaku's popualrity in japan is catching up to narusaku, which is good to know even though it doesnt make a difference, just gives a good atmosphere.

Edited by Canadian_DJ, 11 July 2013 - 08:15 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:18 PM

http://twitpic.com/d23z79 OMG look at CHIE's new artwork!! (btw me and her are friends now!!! :wibble:) I requested this artwork from her!!  :love:


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:22 PM

 

Yes in fact, this is what they said:

 

ナルトは黙ってサクラの話を聞いています・・・それができるのってナルトがサクラを完全に信頼してるからなんだろうと思います。 この2人の信頼関係はもはや形に表す必要も無いほどに!強く強固なものなんだ!!

Translation:I think Naruto would do such because I fully trust Sakura You say can and it ... I have heard the story of Sakura remained silent Naruto. The trust relationship of these two people as much as there is no need to display the shape of any more! I do a thing to a strong strong! !

 

Also: 父親から彼女認定キタ━(゚∀゚)━!

 
 
ありがとうございます!ありがとうございます!
 
 
 
 
さらにさらに!サクラがクシナに似てる発言キタ━(゚∀゚)━!
本当にコレが伏線だったとは・・・・
 
岸本先生ありがとう・・・
 
 
 
 
彼女言われて否定しないサクラ!まんざらでもないのか。
これじゃあミナトからはカップルにしか見えぬぞ(笑)
 
 
 
こういうさりげないナルトの気遣いもいいですねえー
 
この2人にもう言葉などいらないのだ!
 
Translation: From her father certification Kita ━ (° ∀ °) ━!
 
 
Thank you! Thank you!
 
 
 
 
More, Save More. Remarks Northern ━ Sakura is similar to Kushina (° ∀ °) ━!
This was foreshadowing really ......
 
Thank you Kishimoto sensei ...
 
 
 
 
Sakura do not deny it is said her! Whether nor altogether bad.
This peace'll not to see only a couple from the port (laughs)
 
 
 
Care of Naruto not such casual er is good
 
I do not need such words anymore this two people!
 
I gotta say, the japanese really are truly kishi's main fanbase, i mean, they support it, and know its the endgame. Narusaku's popualrity in japan is catching up to narusaku, which is good to know even though it doesnt make a difference, just gives a good atmosphere.

 

I didn't really understand the translation can you summarize it please? so it was just a father's approval or?



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 08:32 PM

I didn't really understand the translation can you summarize it please? so it was just a father's approval or?

Yeah it was a fathers approval.

 

They're just really happy and saying that sakura didnt deny it and that naruto and sakuras relationship is all about trust and they dont need words to communicate with eachother. And how sakura is exactly like kushina and minato also approves. 


Edited by Canadian_DJ, 11 July 2013 - 08:33 PM.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:31 PM

http://twitpic.com/d23z79 OMG look at CHIE's new artwork!! (btw me and her are friends now!!! :wibble:) I requested this artwork from her!!  :love:

 

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:34 PM

And yet the western fan base still debates about the girl-friend translation. The sad thing is that they truly support this interpretation.
 
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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:37 PM

And yet the western fan base still debates about the girl-friend translation. The sad thing is that they truly support this interpretation.

No way? Really? No bashing but that's actually sad. How can you possibly find a loop hole in there? That's just impossible. No seriously, it's impossible. Didn't viz even translate it in the same way?! So why? How ambiguous gets no other interpretations, but one simple line does? It makes NO SENSE!

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:45 PM

No way? Really? No bashing but that's actually sad. How can you possibly find a loop hole in there? That's just impossible. No seriously, it's impossible. Didn't viz even translate it in the same way?! So why? How ambiguous gets no other interpretations, but one simple line does? It makes NO SENSE!

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:53 PM

Oh trust me, they believe Minato asked Naruto if she was a "she" and Naruto replied: "yes dad, more or less"

That's so... laughable. If she was a " she " ? That's the joke of the week... Yup XD

 

It's not a hentai manga or something, lol.


Edited by T XD, 11 July 2013 - 09:56 PM.


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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:54 PM

Oh trust me, they believe Minato asked Naruto if she was a "she" and Naruto replied: "yes dad, more or less"

Wow, just wow. Well, good thing I keep it to myself. I didn't think there will be subject like that around. Again, not pointing finger or bashing, but this is seriously wrong that not even people at YouTube (reviewers) would think this way. Not bashing them either because I respect them, but my point is show some class.




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