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#3661 HalfStarStudios

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It might look that way but People don't hate the pairing only NH and SS fans do, the rest of the forum that doesn't support it is because they are mostly Sakura hardcore haters, Sakura is the most hated character in Naruto forum for reasons like, hitting Naruto, liking a guy who tries to kill her and her confession to Naruto. like I said the majority of the forum are hardcore haters, some also say that she deserves Sasuke because the two are terrible friends to Naruto, they logic is stu*id but is hard for them to see the real Sakura.

I was a passionate debater against those Sakura haters in the past, but I give up since they are too many.

You know what's even worse? People on Mangafox will bash Sakura like crazy but they don't get into any trouble but as soon as I bash Hinata, I get banned. Well I guess that's what happens when the Mod is a NaruHina fan. Seriously, I reported this guy who had a Sakura bashing sig but he did nothing but as soon as I put a Hinata bashing sig, I get infractions and it's taken down while the Sakura bashing sig is still there.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Aug 23 2012, 08:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what's even worse? People on Mangafox will bash Sakura like crazy but they don't get into any trouble but as soon as I bash Hinata, I get banned. Well I guess that's what happens when the Mod is a NaruHina fan. Seriously, I reported this guy who had a Sakura bashing sig but he did nothing but as soon as I put a Hinata bashing sig, I get infractions and it's taken down while the Sakura bashing sig is still there.


Well if I were you, I no longer be part of that forum since I be banned all the times since, I hate Sakura basher so instead of going through all of that I would of quit and walk away.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 09:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well if I were you, I no longer be part of that forum since I be banned all the times since, I hate Sakura basher so instead of going through all of that I would of quit and walk away.

But the thing is apart from the Sakura bashing, I like that forum. Great discussions and good people there. Plus most of the smart people there have noticed the same thing as me(Mod being a biased NaruHina fan) and Hinata becoming overrated so we're currently trying to get that Mod off his seat.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Aug 23 2012, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know what's even worse? People on Mangafox will bash Sakura like crazy but they don't get into any trouble but as soon as I bash Hinata, I get banned. Well I guess that's what happens when the Mod is a NaruHina fan. Seriously, I reported this guy who had a Sakura bashing sig but he did nothing but as soon as I put a Hinata bashing sig, I get infractions and it's taken down while the Sakura bashing sig is still there.




Yes they are too many.

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I doubt it i think u would not be able to take off his Mod's seat, usually people who became mods are mostly friends with the owner of the website or help to maintain the website with cash, it's better for you to just ignore it and move on.
You will just get banned more and more.

Edited by dovahkiin, 23 August 2012 - 01:32 PM.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:30 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 23 2012, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Yes they are too many.


Although many try to deny it, it has much to with pairing preference. I even see some that bash her but ship her with Sasuke, ironic right. dry.gif

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 01:37 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Although many try to deny it, it has much to with pairing preference. I even see some that bash her but ship her with Sasuke, ironic right. dry.gif

i dont call ship people who wants SS just to have sakura out of hinata's way.
wich is kinda ironic because they deny that naruto has romantic feelings towards sakura, but the fact that they want sakura with sasuke is because deep inside they know that naruto loves sakura, there's a name for it wich is "hipocrisy".
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:14 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 23 2012, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont call ship people who wants SS just to have sakura out of hinata's way.
wich is kinda ironic because they deny that naruto has romantic feelings towards sakura, but the fact that they want sakura with sasuke is because deep inside they know that naruto loves sakura, there's a name for it wich is "hipocrisy".

Sadly that's true, but what can we do when Kishi keeps giving them more weapons to attack us, by making Hinata sweet and Sakura more violent than sweet and that interview oh God.

There is one way Kishi can fix that but his desire to not lose readers makes he focus and the popular character and ignore the rest. Kishi don't have to give her a great fight, if he make her say that she grew to love Naruto and her words were real but she does not blame him for not believing her or that she was over Sasuke since she haven't got over him yet will be enough. Trust me all that un-necessary hatred will end since most haters use her confession as an excuse to hate her.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:29 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sadly that's true, but what can we do when Kishi keeps giving them more weapons to attack us, by making Hinata sweet and Sakura more violent than sweet and that interview oh God.

There is one way Kishi can fix that but his desire to not lose readers makes he focus and the popular character and ignore the rest. Kishi don't have to give her a great fight, if he make her say that she grew to love Naruto and her words were real but she does not blame him for not believing her or that she was over Sasuke since she haven't got over him yet will be enough. Trust me all that un-necessary hatred will end since most haters use her confession as an excuse to hate her.



I dont see kishi giving more ammo for them, they just have to get all the info and tarnish it to please their desires, "lose" his readers because of pairings i just feel sorry for him to become such a hostage of an aggressive fandom that treatened him with a letter.

Sincerely i dont give a kitten about this, i dont see kishi giving ammo, because i still have my doubts about the chapter "path to radiance" there's nothing in this world that will convince that he done that chapter with his hand injured.

2> about hinata she's just a side character overrated if he give fanservice i dont care, and about sakura being sometimes aggressive with naruto he pretty much likes it, he admitted in the begining of the shippuuden that he likes to act like an idiot in front of sakura because he loves it.


i dont blame her about that confession, it pretty much showed what she really is inside, it brought up her true feeling she cares more about naruto than sasuke, and this is enough if naruto didnt believe, is mostly because of her stubborn stance and bringing everything so suddenly, naruto would believe her if she didnt bought "sasuke" in that confession, i dont want sakura to be with naruto just because she could not be with sasuke it would be bad for her character naruto cant be her second choice, the only reason for her to be hated was in part 1 when she asked sasuke if she could g with him abandoning naruto and her friends.
but she's no more that person so their arguments are invalid.

Edited by dovahkiin, 23 August 2012 - 02:45 PM.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 23 2012, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I dont see kishi giving more ammo for them, they just have to get all the info and tarnish it to please their desires, "lose" his readers because of pairings i just feel sorry for him to become such a hostage of an aggressive fandom that treatened him with a letter.

Sincerely i dont give a kitten about this, i dont see kishi giving ammo, because i still have my doubts about the chapter "path to radiance" there's nothing in this world that will convince that he done that chapter with his hand injured.

2> about hinata she's just a side character overrated if he give fanservice i dont care, and about sakura being sometimes aggressive with naruto he pretty much likes it, he admitted in the begining of the shippuuden that he likes to act like an idiot in front of sakura because he loves it.


i dont blame her about that confession, it pretty much showed what she really is inside, it brought up her true feeling she cares more about naruto than sasuke, and this is enough if naruto didnt believe, is mostly because of her stubborn stance and bringing everything so suddenly, naruto would believe her if she didnt bought "sasuke" in that confession, i dont want sakura to be with naruto just because she could not be with sasuke it would be bad for her character naruto cant be her second choice, the only reason for her to be hated was in part 1 when she asked sasuke if she could g with him abandoning naruto and her friends.
but she's no more that person so their arguments are invalid.



Well I agree and disagree at the same time with you, many ANS also say that NS believes that Sakura can only develop when she gets over Sasuke and move over to Naruto, I think that is a wrong way of thinking. To start she puts Naruto well being over Sasuke so she already choose Naruto. While she still have her feelings Sasuke I want her to accept them I don't want her to force herself, I want her to be with Naruto not because she couldn't be with Sasuke more like she likes Sasuke and she can go with him because there is nothing stopping her, but admits that she likes Naruto a lot more and don't want to lose him, since Naruto gives her real happiness and she genuine loves him and wants to share her life with.

About Naruto and his desire to saves Sasuke, Sasuke could of kill Naruto at the hospital roof top, Sasuke put a hold on Naruto's shoulder if Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi in him Naruto would of die a long time ago, Sasuke almost kill him in the first reunion after time skip and he try to kill him again at Summit, but Naruto still see Sasuke has his best friend, So Sakura feeling might be silly but if she are honest with herself and accept them but admite that she would never love another man more than Naruto since she already expressed her feeling by action not words then it should be ok.

We cannot give a free pass to Naruto when he have it worse with Sasuke and be angry with Sakura that's being a hypocrite, If Naruto did ask her to marry him/confess his love to her and she say no because she loves Sasuke and later Susuke tell her to get lost and she come back to Naruto then I will agree with your point, so far Naruto has not made any serious move on her or confessed his feeling to her so I will never see him has backup or 2nd choice.
Also if she likes Sasuke but loves Naruto, is a lot better than she liking Naruto because he is the better men.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I agree and disagree at the same time with you, many ANS also say that NS believes that Sakura can only develop when she gets over Sasuke and move over to Naruto, I think that is a wrong way of thinking. To start she puts Naruto well being over Sasuke so she already choose Naruto. While she still have her feelings Sasuke I want her to accept them I don't want her to force herself, I want her to be with Naruto not because she couldn't be with Sasuke more like she likes Sasuke and she can go with him because there is nothing stopping her, but admits that she likes Naruto a lot more and don't want to lose him, since Naruto gives her real happiness and she genuine loves him and wants to share her life with.

About Naruto and his desire to saves Sasuke, Sasuke could of kill Naruto at the hospital roof top, Sasuke put a hold on Naruto's shoulder if Naruto didn't have the Kyuubi in him Naruto would of die a long time ago, Sasuke almost kill him in the first reunion after time skip and he try to kill him again at Summit, but Naruto still see Sasuke has his best friend, So Sakura feeling might be silly but if she are honest with herself and accept them but admite that she would never love another man more than Naruto since she already expressed her feeling by action not words then it should be ok.

We cannot give a free pass to Naruto when he have it worse with Sasuke and be angry with Sakura that's being a hypocrite, If Naruto did ask her to marry him/confess his love to her and she say no because she loves Sasuke and later Susuke tell her to get lost and she come back to Naruto then I will agree with your point, so far Naruto has not made any serious move on her or confessed his feeling to her so I will never see him has backup or 2nd choice.
Also if she likes Sasuke but loves Naruto, is a lot better than she liking Naruto because he is the better men.

disagree entirely.
she didnt choose naruto when she decided to make that confession she was thinking about naruto safety, but we got a hint and this happened in that lover-nin scene, that scene did not reinforce her love for sasuke but make her think about it, it was pretty much like if u love someome he must be a great guy, in other words if she fall him love with someome must be some good guy with a good heart not some kind of murderer, that guys made her question her feelings for sasuke in the first time on the series.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 23 2012, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
disagree entirely.
she didnt choose naruto when she decided to make that confession she was thinking about naruto safety, but we got a hint and this happened in that lover-nin scene, that scene did not reinforce her love for sasuke but make her think about it, it was pretty much like if u love someome he must be a great guy, in other words if she fall him love with someome must be some good guy with a good heart not some kind of murderer, that guys made her question her feelings for sasuke in the first time on the series.

we did not got an answer about it and probably she will answer later.


OK If she was thinking about Naruto's safety and not about the man she loves who the Rookies decided to kill, but all what was in her mind was how much she has done to hurt Naruto and how she doesn't want to make more mistakes, If Naruto did say yes to that confession then she say, sorry Naruto I don't love you I only say that to get Sasuke out your mind while the Rookies kill him. Will that make sense? No. That's why I said she was chosing Naruto over Sasuke.

Like I say I don't hate the fact that she still haves naive feelings for Sasuke, I will hate the fact that she would still run to his harms when Naruto brings him back knowing that Naruto loves her deeply, that is why I will always say is better for her to accept those feelings while stating that her feeling for Naruto are a lot stronger.

It also explains why everyone was surprised and then they were suspicious or mad in her confession, Yamato knows that her feelings are genuine but she gave Naruto a wrong reason for wanting to be with him, again that's why I said his better for her to accept her feelings but stop denying that her feelings for Naruto are stronger at this time.

Tell me what Sakura said when Naruto and Sasuke were about to kill each other in the Chidori and the Rasengan clash at the hospital roof top and what did she said at the Summit? What was different in those two events? Then tell me is she didn't prove the 2nd time who her heart belongs to.

Her feelings are with Sasuke because that's what she always desire, but her heart and true feelings are with Naruto, if they were brother and Sister then her concerne for Naruto over Sasuke would not count.

Edited by NS means logic, 23 August 2012 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 23 2012, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
disagree entirely.
she didnt choose naruto when she decided to make that confession she was thinking about naruto safety, but we got a hint and this happened in that lover-nin scene, that scene did not reinforce her love for sasuke but make her think about it, it was pretty much like if u love someome he must be a great guy, in other words if she fall him love with someome must be some good guy with a good heart not some kind of murderer, that guys made her question her feelings for sasuke in the first time on the series.

we did not got an answer about it and probably she will answer later.


THIS! You can clearly that's what it was going on Sakura's mind with her expression. That expression was of guilt and completely thinking any feelings she might have for Sasuke as negative, now it would have been different if she was smiling happily. 540 was to start showing that Sakura no longer sees Sasuke as love material when she already knows who she loves the most.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 05:47 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Aug 23 2012, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
THIS! You can clearly that's what it was going on Sakura's mind with her expression. That expression was of guilt and completely thinking any feelings she might have for Sasuke as negative, now it would have been different if she was smiling happily. 540 was to start showing that Sakura no longer sees Sasuke as love material when she already knows who she loves the most.

While that statement you just make is accurate I wish Kishi gives her more character development, I don't need a fight I need her to develop more has a person, think more about her friend her parents think about her situation with Sasuke and how much it as hurt her by thinking about someone who never love her, think about Naruto and how much he has done to see her happy, think about his last words this is no time to think that Team 7 will smile again, Naruto say that he was planning to end his life to make Sasuke drop all his hatred on him, does are the things I need her to do, grow more indepented and try to balance what is good for her and what isn't good.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
While that statement you just make is accurate I wish Kishi gives her more character development, I don't need a fight I need her to develop more has a person, think more about her friend her parents think about her situation with Sasuke and how much it as hurt her by thinking about someone who never love her, think about Naruto and how much he has done to see her happy, think about his last words this is no time to think that Team 7 will smile again, Naruto say that he was planning to end his life to make Sasuke drop all his hatred on him, does are the things I need her to do, grow more indepented and try to balance what is good for her and what isn't good.


It was just a speech he did, but he grow up after that chapters, when he talk to sasuke he was still naive and doubtfull about many things, now he says " i was entrusted with many things" and he wont give up his life to save sasuke, he will do his best along with his friends, before the war arc he just wanted to handle everything alone, he grow up and become a man, he's totally different than that sasuke.

and about sakura u can say whenever u want but before the lover nin she still loves sasuke, and even if naruto accepted her confession she would still love sasuke, because she did not embranced her true feelings it's more complex than u think, she does not have a full resolution of her feelings that lover-nin make her think about her feelings for the first time, made her think if worth it to love sasuke at the cost of her happiness, if he's really a great guy and deserve her love.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 07:09 PM

sakura is simply still confused about her love for sasuke and eventually she will have a scene where she will realize who is the person that truly matters for her. kishi has made the drama side of the story a little bit complicated as he doesn't want to fully reveal anything for now from each character especially the main characters.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:54 PM

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It was just a speech he did, but he grow up after that chapters, when he talk to sasuke he was still naive and doubtfull about many things, now he says " i was entrusted with many things" and he wont give up his life to save sasuke, he will do his best along with his friends, before the war arc he just wanted to handle everything alone, he grow up and become a man, he's totally different than that sasuke.

and about sakura u can say whenever u want but before the lover nin she still loves sasuke, and even if naruto accepted her confession she would still love sasuke, because she did not embranced her true feelings it's more complex than u think, she does not have a full resolution of her feelings that lover-nin make her think about her feelings for the first time, made her think if worth it to love sasuke at the cost of her happiness, if he's really a great guy and deserve her love.

Lol lets agree to disagree you kind a sound angry so lets leave it like that. biggrin.gif

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 12:18 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Aug 23 2012, 11:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lol lets agree to disagree you kind a sound angry so lets leave it like that. biggrin.gif

i'm not angry i just write too fast.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:03 AM

So do you think when they anime 540 they would acknowledge that Sakura is rethinking her feelings for Sasuke or they gonna make it seem that she is sad because Sasuke is currently bad.

Or do you guys got other predictions.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 02:40 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 23 2012, 07:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So do you think when they anime 540 they would acknowledge that Sakura is rethinking her feelings for Sasuke or they gonna make it seem that she is sad because Sasuke is currently bad.

Or do you guys got other predictions.


They're probably going to show her being sad because Sasuke is bad. We really haven't seen anything else that shows she is rethinking her feelings for Sasuke.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 03:24 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 23 2012, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So do you think when they anime 540 they would acknowledge that Sakura is rethinking her feelings for Sasuke or they gonna make it seem that she is sad because Sasuke is currently bad.

Or do you guys got other predictions.

I have a suspicion that the next SS bullet is going to come from Sasuke himself. In the form of a direct request for Sakura to help him, relying on some old connection in a battlefield situation. Any number of scenarios, but one in which Sakura would be forced to make a choice or act in a way that's completely in line with her teammate bond to him, but that could also been seen as shipping proof as well.

Hinata has ramped it up by making her declaration of "holding his hand" about Naruto. So I bet the next thing is going to come from Sasuke.

Although I'm also hoping that Sasuke tweaks Naruto by going after the one thing that he knows — he alone knows — will set Naruto off: going after Sakura. By harming her or putting her in danger, Sasuke will have lit Naruto's fuse. *rubs hands together evilly*




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