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[Paptala]

Sakura development and butt kicking in the same arc? Yes, please. That's what we've been waiting for.

Do want. Lyke rite nao. Kthnx kishi.

So wait,whats to come next is the raikage and tsuande trying to stop Naruto and killer bee from entering the war right? I can definitely see Sakura intervening, but I'm not sure if it would be a Narusaku moment, well it has been a while since she's seen him and vice versa.

Not sure that Sakura will interfere, actually. How far away are the medical tents from where Naruto and Bee got? Where were they actually headed? Straight towards Madara's chakra?

Either way, I'm hoping that Naruto and Sakura get a chance to talk, or at least do something together, before Madara's plan is implemented. Maybe a "come back alive," scene like he had with Iruka (though because he did already have one scene like that with someone, I'm not so sure that he would have another one ).

I think everything might become clear if they return the "the bench" like in chapter 3 or does Sakura already know it was Naruto and not sasuke?

As far as we know, Sakura definitely still thinks that it was Sasuke during the bench scene. If Kishi does bring this us again (and the parallel with Kushina's hair being made fun of makes me think that it will), then I'm sure that her finding out it was actually Naruto could be a big moment for her.

[Nate River]

I'm sorta new to this forum and I have to double post to reply to different things :'D Could chu teach me how to post only once and reply to different things?

There is an edit button at the bottom post if you the most recent post.

Otherwise copy and paste the posts you want (you might need to windows). Then you place the quote commands at each end. I just usuallay type them out, but there is a quote symbol you can use at the top. It's the fourth button to the right of the single smiley face emo-con. Looks like a quote.

[Codus N]

As for the Sakura=his wife thing, I believe it was Oda who commented that his wife really looked like Sakura during their wedding. I'm pretty certain Kishi has also indicated Naruto is a lot like him-they had similar childhoods of being the underdog etc., so he's the one Kishi relates to most/his favourite character.

Ok, now I'M interested hopefully we'll see a picture of her sometime.

[ciardha]

Ok, now I'M interested hopefully we'll see a picture of her sometime.

I'd love to see a picture of Kishimoto with his wife and kids.

[Ella loves NaruSaku :3]

Do want. Lyke rite nao. Kthnx kishi.

Not sure that Sakura will interfere, actually. How far away are the medical tents from where Naruto and Bee got? Where were they actually headed? Straight towards Madara's chakra?

Either way, I'm hoping that Naruto and Sakura get a chance to talk, or at least do something together, before Madara's plan is implemented. Maybe a "come back alive," scene like he had with Iruka (though because he did already have one scene like that with someone, I'm not so sure that he would have another one ).

As far as we know, Sakura definitely still thinks that it was Sasuke during the bench scene. If Kishi does bring this us again (and the parallel with Kushina's hair being made fun of makes me think that it will), then I'm sure that her finding out it was actually Naruto could be a big moment for her.

When you mention how far away the medic tent is from the battlefield, Hinata is closer to Naruto than where Sakura is. Sorta scares me a little :'( I really hope Hinata won't interfere again, for God's sake!! She'll just end up being a burden. And I'm sure Sakura really loves Naruto but can't get over Sasuke still. That's the sad part that keeps her away from honesty.
Also I always wanted this kind of NS moment... It's pretty realistic and might happen soon: Naruto and Sakura fight side by side!! Imagine how dangerous they would be *3*

Btw did I post right this time...? X'D

[lelouch the lord]

can someone please explain to me how and why sakura is still in love with sasuke?

[Haaky]

can someone please explain to me how and why sakura is still in love with sasuke?

Since the beginning of Shippuden there have been confusion about Sakuras feelings.
I still think there is, and I do think that's how it should be.

When I read the new manga I got really disapointed. To fix my depression I found
some hints from manga that indicates a NaruSaku development. Here is one of them:

Spoiler --Click here to view--

http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/166/c/5/Kushina_y_Sakura_by_SakuNyu.jpg

There are more hints like this, I've really got a hard time believing these "hints" have been made for
no reason. Either way, this was reassuring to me.

[ShippudenGirl]

*choo choo* WOO~ Shippu-chan is dropping by on this lovely midnight! M'kay... Let's see...

@Lelouch

Er, no.. no I do not see how she is in love with him. Her image of Sasuke was dark and sad, not happy and cool and covered with fangirly hearts. I think she's still in transition, though.

[bthug]

can someone please explain to me how and why sakura is still in love with sasuke?

Haha I know what you mean, but I think its more of if it were Naruto she thought off then the pairing wars would be over and the fact that Sakura getting over sasuke was never really explained mostly just assumed, but I sense her actually in whole truth that she does not love sasuke.


Oh and Haaky that link is pretty clutch, great find. So much between the two are so similar, way too similar for just coincidence.

[Haaky]

Haha I know what you mean, but I think its more of if it were Naruto she thought off then the pairing wars would be over and the fact that Sakura getting over sasuke was never really explained mostly just assumed, but I sense her actually in whole truth that she does not love sasuke.


Oh and Haaky that link is pretty clutch, great find. So much between the two are so similar, way too similar for just coincidence.

Yeah, and this indicates why Kishi choosed to make Sakura similar to Kushina:

SPOILER --Click here to view--

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/3/0/4/3/3/3/Pro-NaruSaku-35031298826.jpeg

This might be why Naruto fell in love with Sakura in the firs place.

[rastaman]

Yeah, and this indicates why Kishi choosed to make Sakura similar to Kushina:

SPOILER --Click here to view--

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/3/0/4/3/3/3/Pro-NaruSaku-35031298826.jpeg

This might be why Naruto fell in love with Sakura in the firs place.

Yea Kushina seems to be adjusted to Sakura's character. He facial expression show that she's indeed very similar to Kushina.
It's not the only obvious similarity. Considering Kushina's late introduction to the plotline it's not too far-fetched to say Kushina is adjusted to Sakura's behavior.

[Mary]

Sorry for not responding to your posts, but my Internet was down for the last couple of days.

So,

@Otaru Frankly, I'm positive Sakura loves Sasuke, I just think she's in love with Naruto. And Naruto is lying to himself, he proved that through his actions. In the chapter here:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/13
He kept thinking about how she acted towards Sasuke, how she "wanted him to look only at her", and it's not like what she said made him think any different:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/15
She kept talking about "Sasuke-kun" when she was confessing her feelings for Naruto! Which is why he rejected her! Because he did, this scene proves it:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/16
and the last thing Sakura said:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/17
well, I truly wanted to face-palm myself, because we all know Naruto wouldn't be happy if she just "switched from Sasuke to Naruto".
He didn't believe her, because, I don't think Sakura herself was fully convinced she loved Naruto back then. Oh, she noticed him alright, but she still held on to that stupid crush she had on Sasuke. I think the moment her feelings for Sasuke started wavering was here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
actually, the whole chapter 483 was practically made to convince Sakura that the Sasuke she's chasing is not the Sasuke that she'd fallen in love with so many years ago.

Sorry, @Phantom_999, but I don't believe that she ever intended to tell Naruto about the decision to kill Sasuke, as proven here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-484.html
I think she just went there to try and convince him to come back to the village with her and abandon his quest for Sasuke. When that didn't work, that's when I think she convinced herself it would be best to kill Sasuke, since she did promise that "she'd rescue Sasuke for Naruto":
http://www.manga123....ad/Naruto/296/7
and considering his crimes, maybe that was the only salvation she saw for Sasuke.

And @ ciardha I'm really waiting to see proof on this " Sakura was able to get through to Naruto that she had fallen in love with him", because after she got angry, that's when Naruto rejected her. And I've already explained why I doubt Sasuke will die in this post here: Post #3587 (sorry, I don't know how to provide you with a better link).

Edited by Mary, 29 May 2011 - 01:01 PM.

[rastaman]

Sorry for not responding to your posts, but my Internet was down for the last couple of days.

So,

@Otaru Frankly, I'm positive Sakura loves Sasuke, I just think she's in love with Naruto. And Naruto is lying to himself, he proved that through his actions. In the chapter here:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/13
He kept thinking about how she acted towards Sasuke, how she "wanted him to look only at her", and it's not like what she said made him think any different:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/15
She kept talking about "Sasuke-kun" when she was confessing her feelings for Naruto! Which is why he rejected her! Because he did, this scene proves it:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/16
and the last thing Sakura said:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/17
well, I truly wanted to face-palm myself, because we all know Naruto wouldn't be happy if she just "switched from Sasuke to Naruto".
He didn't believe her, because, I don't think Sakura herself was fully convinced she loved Naruto back then. Oh, she noticed him alright, but she still held on to that stupid crush she had on Sasuke. I think the moment her feelings for Sasuke started wavering was here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
actually, the whole chapter 483 was practically made to convince Sakura that the Sasuke she's chasing is not the Sasuke that she'd fallen in love with so many years ago.

Sorry, @Phantom_999, but I don't believe that she ever intended to tell Naruto about the decision to kill Sasuke, as proven here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-484.html
I think she just went there to try and convince him to come back to the village with her and abandon his quest for Sasuke. When that didn't work, that's when I think she convinced herself it would be best to kill Sasuke, since she did promise that "she'd rescue Sasuke for Naruto":
http://www.manga123....ad/Naruto/296/7
and considering his crimes, maybe that was the only salvation she saw for Sasuke.

And @ ciardha I'm really waiting to see proof on this " Sakura was able to get through to Naruto that she had fallen in love with him", because after she got angry, that's when Naruto rejected her. And I've already explained why I doubt Sasuke will die in this post here: Post #3587 (sorry, I don't know how to provide you with a better link).

Mary, what you write isn't something a convinced NS fan would write. Naruto ALREADY knows before the confession that Sasuke detests Konohagakure for ordering Itachi to kill off the Uchiha clan. As a matter of fact he does so because Madara told him the story. That's why he considers her confession insinscere. If he hadn't known that beforehand then he wouldn't be so angry about Sakura's confession. Naruto STILL wants to keep his promise so he was somewhat shocked that Sakura would confess to him and point out that Sasuke has become a CRIMINAL. Naruto's path of shinobi does NOT include disappointing Sakura and THAT'S why he's shocked about her confession. BUT he faints after hearing so many bad things about Sasuke. He's HOLDING on to his will of fire, which obviously applies for Sakura. I DO think she's over Sasuke now.

Edited by rastaman, 29 May 2011 - 01:26 PM.

[Mary]

I actually am a devoted NaruSaku fan, I've loved and wanted to see the two together since chapter 1. But I loved them even more when I saw them develop in a realistic way, and, right now, I think the two still have a long way to go before they can fully understand each other and be together without the shadow of Sakura's love for Sasuke looming over their heads. If you're willing to accuse me of sounding like I'm against NS because I want to see my paring develop in a believable and satisfying way, than so be it.

[rastaman]

She kept talking about "Sasuke-kun" when she was confessing her feelings for Naruto! Which is why he rejected her! Because he did, this scene proves it:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/16

This doesn't seem devoted to me. I just stated my opinion that some people don't even think about Naruto rejecting Sakura.
I mentioned the circumstanced that make Naruto faint. He was not in a good condition after hearing about Sasuke's sins.

[Mary]

Then I'm sorry, but as much as I love NS, I'm not willing to put on "shipping goggles" and deny the evidence that's right in front of me (NS doesn't require me to do that, I already know the two love each other, but that doesn't mean they're not prone to mistakes). I don't think any NS fan should need them, because Naruto did reject Sakura there, whether you like it or not. AND, in spit of that, he still loves her, you know he does, so I'm perfectly fine to admitting that he DID make a mistake there, and dis-considered her feelings, because the mistakes and misunderstandings have practically been what's kept this pairing apart, and they still are. But every time, the two came out stronger when they finally realized their mistakes, which is why I won't cover them up and patiently wait to see this mistake finally resolve itself (and it'll end with the two finally getting together, I'm sure of that).

Now, tell me, what's your excuse?

Edited by Mary, 29 May 2011 - 01:47 PM.

[rastaman]

Then I'm sorry, but as much as I love NS, I'm not willing to put on "shipping goggles" and deny the evidence that's right in front of me (NS doesn't require me to do that, I already know the two love each other, but that doesn't mean they're not prone to mistakes). I don't think any NS fan should need them, because Naruto did reject Sakura there, whether you like it or not. AND, in spit of that, he still loves her, you know he does, so I'm perfectly fine to admitting that he DID make a mistake there, and dis-considered her feelings, because the mistakes and misunderstandings have practically been what's kept this pairing apart, and they still are. But every time, the two came out stronger when they finally realized their mistakes, which is why I won't cover them up and patiently wait to see this mistake finally resolve itself (and it'll end with the two finally getting together, I'm sure of that).

Now, tell me, what's your excuse?

Mary, pls refrain from writing things like 'reject Sakura there, whether you like it or not'. I already explained that she might have abandoned the idea that she could ever be with Sasuke, a long time ago. Naruto ONLY rejects her because he doesn't want to lose Sasuke as a friend and Sakura calls him a CRIMINAL.
In my opinion Naruto faints because his image of Sasuke has changed drastically. He also worries about Sasuke because Madara tells him the Uchiha story. Naruto comes to the conclusion that Madara could even control Sasuke.
It's Madara's strategy to arouse doubt and fear in Naruto's mind.
Fortunately, Naruto stands up to Sasuke and saves Sakura.
I do not admit the idea that Naruto rejects Sakura. He's in a bad condition. There's too much psychological pressure on him.
+ Sakura tries to help Naruto overcome this pressure by telling him that he should go back to Konohagakure.
Madara tries the exact opposite to ensure that Naruto enters the fray with doubt in his heart.

Edited by rastaman, 29 May 2011 - 01:59 PM.

[Phantom_999]

Sorry for not responding to your posts, but my Internet was down for the last couple of days.

So,

@Otaru Frankly, I'm positive Sakura loves Sasuke, I just think she's in love with Naruto. And Naruto is lying to himself, he proved that through his actions. In the chapter here:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/13
He kept thinking about how she acted towards Sasuke, how she "wanted him to look only at her", and it's not like what she said made him think any different:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/15
She kept talking about "Sasuke-kun" when she was confessing her feelings for Naruto! Which is why he rejected her! Because he did, this scene proves it:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/16
and the last thing Sakura said:
http://www.manga123....d/Naruto/469/17
well, I truly wanted to face-palm myself, because we all know Naruto wouldn't be happy if she just "switched from Sasuke to Naruto".
He didn't believe her, because, I don't think Sakura herself was fully convinced she loved Naruto back then. Oh, she noticed him alright, but she still held on to that stupid crush she had on Sasuke. I think the moment her feelings for Sasuke started wavering was here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
and here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-483.html
actually, the whole chapter 483 was practically made to convince Sakura that the Sasuke she's chasing is not the Sasuke that she'd fallen in love with so many years ago.

Sorry, @Phantom_999, but I don't believe that she ever intended to tell Naruto about the decision to kill Sasuke, as proven here:
http://www.mangaread...hapter-484.html
I think she just went there to try and convince him to come back to the village with her and abandon his quest for Sasuke. When that didn't work, that's when I think she convinced herself it would be best to kill Sasuke, since she did promise that "she'd rescue Sasuke for Naruto":
http://www.manga123....ad/Naruto/296/7
and considering his crimes, maybe that was the only salvation she saw for Sasuke.

And @ ciardha I'm really waiting to see proof on this " Sakura was able to get through to Naruto that she had fallen in love with him", because after she got angry, that's when Naruto rejected her. And I've already explained why I doubt Sasuke will die in this post here: Post #3587 (sorry, I don't know how to provide you with a better link).

Heh Heh, Pretty Cynical about NS for a NS fan aren't' cha? Not That I'm judging Or saying you're wrong but hear me out please; First off I know Sakura did not intend to tell Naruto the truth about the decision by the Konoha 11 to kill Sasuke in the first place, which in turn actually proves how sensitive she has become to his feelings and that, to some extent says she does love him already in some form or manner or she wouldn't be crying so much from guilt, I mean do you imagine a just a friend being that emotional for hurting you? though of course it also showed she was determined to change her self so as to not always rely on him for the rest of her life. Now We're not accusing that you don't like NS, but its does seem like you're arguing against them rather than for them, however I understand that you don't want to turn into something like NH or SS like, by being in denial of other possibilities and trying to be logical to facts as well and thats okay Its GOOD to think like that, its only that we all care about NS and thinking about the "what if it goes down the drain" concept will just make it depressing for us, though of course we would not rabidly attack other shippings like those NH or SS Fans

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 May 2011 - 02:49 PM.

[Mary]

Sorry, but I won't refrain from writing what I believe. And why do you keep bringing that whole "Naruto fairing" scene into the conversation? That happened after the confession. What does his fainting and whether he believed Sakura's confession or not have to do with anything?

[Super Boom]

Then I'm sorry, but as much as I love NS, I'm not willing to put on "shipping goggles" and deny the evidence that's right in front of me (NS doesn't require me to do that, I already know the two love each other, but that doesn't mean they're not prone to mistakes). I don't think any NS fan should need them, because Naruto did reject Sakura there, whether you like it or not. AND, in spit of that, he still loves her, you know he does, so I'm perfectly fine to admitting that he DID make a mistake there, and dis-considered her feelings, because the mistakes and misunderstandings have practically been what's kept this pairing apart, and they still are. But every time, the two came out stronger when they finally realized their mistakes, which is why I won't cover them up and patiently wait to see this mistake finally resolve itself (and it'll end with the two finally getting together, I'm sure of that).

Now, tell me, what's your excuse?

First off, let's cool it with the back-and-forths here. I've seen it happen more than once on this site, and it usually ends with awkwardness or one of the mods coming in.

Mary, you've brought up some great points, and I can tell from your posts that you're a true fan of this pairing. I also agree that we shouldn't have to put on "shipping goggles". I mean if we just flat out ignore arguments against our pairing, we're pretty much the same as a certain other fandom.
However, I do have to disagree with you on one point. Naruto didn't reject Sakura's confession. He himself didn't believe it was a sincere confession, so he wouldn't have been able to reject it. I've had this argument with SasuSaku fans on more than one occasion, where someone will simultaneously call Sakura's confession a "lie" and Naruto's reaction a "rejection". The fact of the matter is that it can't be both. If Naruto acknowledged Sakura's feelings as truth, then said he doesn't love her, or loves someone else, then his reaction would qualify as a rejection. But if he doesn't believe her feelings to be sincere in the first place, then how can his reaction be considered a rejection?
The best way to look at that scene is as confusion on both parties' parts.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 29 May 2011 - 02:56 PM.