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[Branden]

I assume you don't watch anime. That said oh most definitely. Why else we have been saying "anime don't count"? Because they are overdosed with NS fan service. After all, we have that OVA, remember? In fact, if we compile it, we will have more posts to post all of them than The Buildup thread.

Not to mention there was an entire NaruSaku arc in part 1.

[sushi.]

I think fillers just says something about what the anime studio thinks of the characters. They also try to make money, so you can't get around fanservice haha. XD

 

Fillers are probably more expensive than canon because it takes more effort. They have no manga as sketchbases and have to do everything themselves.

[bthug]

Do you guys think the epilogue will be narrated? If it were to be, it would probably be narrated by Sakura or even Konohomaru. Personally I hope it isnt narrated, seems out of place. If anything I wanna hear a bunch of "narrations" from all he characters and then finally Naruto.

 

HBU?

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not to mention there was an entire NaruSaku arc in part 1.

True.

 

I remember in part 2, it was a NS episode mixed with canon and fillers (hand grabbing, Sakura's worries, Naruto's compliment, etc.) and many people in NF, honest to God, actually starting to have second thought that NS is a really nice pairing. I remember it before even becoming a NS fan, so that's surprising.

[Kakashi-Sensei]

Not to mention there was an entire NaruSaku arc in part 1.

Wich arc ??

[arian_rad]

Do you guys think the epilogue will be narrated? If it were to be, it would probably be narrated by Sakura or even Konohomaru. Personally I hope it isnt narrated, seems out of place. If anything I wanna hear a bunch of "narrations" from all he characters and then finally Naruto.
 
HBU?

I think it will just go around the village mainly focused on Naruto, and show everyone's future in the village as well from naruto's perspective. I'd like to think of it as something like the beginning of part 2. When naruto goes around recognizing and showing the audience all the changes that have taken place. I don't really want a narration.

[Branden]

Wich arc ??

It was right after Naruto went after Sasuke. Episode 136. http://www.narutoget...english-subbed/

 

I forget the details but I do know that most of the NS moments from that arc are from when they go into Orochimaru's castle.

[bthug]

I think it will just go around the village mainly focused on Naruto, and show everyone's future in the village as well from naruto's perspective. I'd like to think of it as something like the beginning of part 2. When naruto goes around recognizing and showing the audience all the changes that have taken place. I don't really want a narration.

Yea I hope this is what happens as well.

 

It was right after Naruto went after Sasuke. Episode 136. http://www.narutoget...english-subbed/

 

I forget the details but I do know that most of the NS moments from that arc are from when they go into Orochimaru's castle.

Yea theirs a bunch of life saving, (Naruto saves Sakura twice from a death blow) Sakura is about to end herself or something along those lines and Naruto talks her out of it, Sakura thinks Narutos dead and cries for him....a lot of NS, unfortunalelty filler

[Liu bie]

Do you guys think the epilogue will be narrated? If it were to be, it would probably be narrated by Sakura or even Konohomaru. Personally I hope it isnt narrated, seems out of place. If anything I wanna hear a bunch of "narrations" from all he characters and then finally Naruto.

 

HBU?

I think that would happen if kishi wants to do the things fast, for example may he will not put a NS moment in the end as the fans want, but he will convert NS canon in short moment and would be in the epilogue.

[Branden]

I think that would happen if kishi wants to do the things fast, for example may he will not put a NS moment in the end as the fans want, but he will convert NS canon in short moment and would be in the epilogue.

don't you think it would be kind of ridiculous if after all the  narusaku development it ended up just being a quick mention in the epilogue

[Tsubaki]

hum.. I found it on tumblr:

 

http://kaylathebookt...hips-popularity

 

of course this isn't a reliable source but still... 

[redragon88]

True.

 

I remember in part 2, it was a NS episode mixed with canon and fillers (hand grabbing, Sakura's worries, Naruto's compliment, etc.) and many people in NF, honest to God, actually starting to have second thought that NS is a really nice pairing. I remember it before even becoming a NS fan, so that's surprising.

 

Really? I've seen all the episodes so far and I don't remember that one. Can you refresh my memory?

 

Yea theirs a bunch of life saving, (Naruto saves Sakura twice from a death blow) Sakura is about to end herself or something along those lines and Naruto talks her out of it, Sakura thinks Narutos dead and cries for him....a lot of NS, unfortunalelty filler

 

It's canon....... in your heart.

 

hum.. I found it on tumblr:

 

http://kaylathebookt...hips-popularity

 

of course this isn't a reliable source but still... 

 

ItaSaku more popular than NaruSaku? Only one person voted for SasuKarin?

 

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure.

Edited by redragon88, 11 July 2013 - 05:58 PM.

[Inferno180]

I think fillers just says something about what the anime studio thinks of the characters. They also try to make money, so you can't get around fanservice haha. XD

 

Fillers are probably more expensive than canon because it takes more effort. They have no manga as sketchbases and have to do everything themselves.

 

There are rules they have to follow with fillers though, basically stuff they put in cannot conflict with manga plot structure. The only real difference between the manga and anime is when Naruto met Utakata (the 6 tails Jinchurki) he never met him prior to being swallowed by son goku in the fight with Obito's six paths of pain. Now when the part comes soon for this battle, obviously there will be a fallback to the time Naruto met Utakta, just for clearity and consistency of how the anime progressed.

 

There are however rare instances where stuff that originated in filler came into the manga, some of this includes one of the 7 mist swords, Kiba,the lightning one first used by Riga in the pre shippuden filler arcs, made its first manga appearance in the fight against the edo 7 swordsmen. Gaara's "girlfriend" the one we see every now and then who always fawns over Gaara, she began in the filler arcs too.

 

But the reason people say filler does not count is because they are not always going to be based on the original material. The main purpose of fillers is to both extend the story with side stories aside from the main journey the heroes go on, also its the time when the anime team can be free to do stuff that the manga team never did, such as for instance, rather than make Sakura just go to Tsunade for training, they gave her a filler arc to give her more incentive for it. Another was the battle between Naruto and Sakura vs. Kakashi at the start of shippuden, what was once a simple short panel sequence, it became a full fleged battle for them to work with, where in the manga you only get a breif showcase of the new powers, I felt this short canon-centric filler was good because it let the audience know how the time skip treated Naruto and Sakura and what it lead to. In other words, some fillers are just extended scenes based on canon material, the Naruto and Sakura vs. Kakashi  fight, tenten vs temari, Shino vs Kankuro, stuff like these were originally offscreen but gained the chance to be shown in the anime.

 

Some stuff like Sakura and Sai over-watching Naruto's wind style is an extension off the canon material, basically they added Sakura and Sai in just to watch from afar. This segment had a scene though in which we personally all liked, Sakura revealing how though Naruto has his faults, he proves them wrong and thats just who he is, this is a scene we like despite being filler and shows she accepts him for who he is despite his faults, this is one of the things we like about that episode.

 

Other stuff though can seem a bit too extended, I mean like ep 166, taking a short sequence of Hinata vs Pain and extend it to an entire episode with flashbacks, added drama and stuff for Hinata's character, but for times I still ask if doing all this for one episode was necessary. To me for back then, if Kishi really was serious about NH then the episode would have been much bigger on Hinata but I feel that because NH still has not shown anything overly serious, especially with manga developments like 631 and 635, makes me say that this was just an episode perriot went wild with, now I wonder how they will treat the episode holding chapter 615 later this year? Will they keep it simple or overtax a simple moment like this again like ep 166?

 

I will say this though: when the fillers add humor, I love to see the stuido run wild with the characters, they can get it out of their systems, put something into action here or there. Kinda like the NaruSasu kissing from one of the fillers when they both got stuck together, that was just building on the old early gag, likewise the filler where Hinata lost her eyesight, they trolled all the big pairings in that episode which made it a good laugh. Long as the fanservice is kept to a degree of control, Im fine. But the most important thing for fillers is to let the manga stay ahead, next week the canon episodes resume and we will see exactly how things turn out in the anime version.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 

Really? I've seen all the episodes so far and I don't remember that one. Can you refresh my memory?

 

It was right after KN4 incident. The episode began with heading to Sai, but Naruto passed out. Then, we have Sakura worrying about his condition (canon), then Naruto tells her to go with him grabbing her hand or near hand, forgot how to spell, wow, lol (mixed). Then we have Sakura focusing on Naruto because he was about to crash to a branch, which she called his name, but he dodged it and she was relief (filler). Then she fell, Naruto tried to grab her hand as she extends her, but Naruto was being weakened because of his state, so they both missed each other by an inch, which Naruto yells for her before Yamato rescue (mixed). Then we have Naruto complimenting her that she's a great medic in which she blushed, but he had to mention the "monster strength" which she go tsun and tries to kick him, which Naruto keeps saying sorry (reminds me of myself, mixed). Lastly, Yamato tells Naruto the truth, leaving a cliffhanger ending with Naruto feeling devastated (shows how much he truly cares). So yeah, I think I missed a few but they are obvious. Because of that episode, people actually questioned themselves. I wasn't NS fan officially, so I wouldn't know how much people went NS.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 11 July 2013 - 06:12 PM.

[arian_rad]

hum.. I found it on tumblr:
 
http://kaylathebookt...hips-popularity
 
of course this isn't a reliable source but still... 

That source seems unreliable because of the amount of naruhina fans for one and also for the amount of sasukarin fans. Those polls are legit trolls.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Which begs the question for me at least, how does Japan sees SK?

[六道仙人]

Guys, I suggest you to ignore those polls.. They don't mean really anything. They aren't even so reliables after all....

[TouKen4Life3g]

Guys, I suggest you to ignore those polls.. They don't mean really anything. They aren't even so reliables after all....

Don't even care but I was just curious when I asked my question. Truly am.

[六道仙人]

Of course it's a kitten because seing

13）サイイノ　77票 (SaiIno)

14）ミナクシ　65票 (MinaKushi)

 

is just hilarious....

[sushi.]

Which begs the question for me at least, how does Japan sees SK?

I think they at least aren't mislead by mistranslations. And yes, there are a lot of mistranslations with SK.

 

When Obito talks about Karin and Sasuke, in some translations he says "she is useful", but in the original he says "she is Sasuke's favourite".

Karin didn't really say she liked being stabbed by Sasuke either.

Of course it's a bullsh** because seing

13）サイイノ　77票 (SaiIno)

14）ミナクシ　65票 (MinaKushi)

 

is just hilarious....

It's bullcrap because where is KakaIru..?