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[Akashi]

She's not pathetic, she's just lost and confused. I don't see how her romantic feelings for Sasuke make her pathetic.. That makes Ino pathetic too? Following that logic one could also call Naruto pathetic for loving Sakura and struggling because of those feelings all these years... instead of, say, going out with Hinata.

Both girls just fell for the image.. none of them truly knows or understands who Sasuke really is. It's like they've been rejecting reality and kept telling themselves that what they feel for him is true love. And there's nothing pathetic about it. It just shows how very human they are.

The confession or plead or call it whatever you think suits it better is what we needed. Sakura finally took this weight off her chest... now she can finally move on without regrets. This was the long-awaited SS resolution. Sasuke confirmed one more time that he's not interested in her (romantically).. and I think we can all agree this won't ever change. Now all is left for SS to officially capitulate is for Sakura to realize her true feelings.

Edited by Tauriel, 18 October 2014 - 09:09 PM.

[redragon88]

 

yes. But as i have already said. there's something who get a bigger blow in that chapter, and that's the SS itself. Sakura considers herself as disgrace and admitted her feelings for him are a failure since she hasn't been able to save him, even though she loves him. And guys, I honestly don't know how SS fandom took that chapter as a pro hint, really.

 

What's you take on Kakashi saying "ai suru" or whatever word it was to describe Sakura's love. Is that also meant to be seen as Kakashi speaking about romantic feelings?

 

I'm aware that Kakashi used the strongest word to describe love, but isn't is being in a romantic context a contradiction to 675 and then with Sasuke thinking about his family when Kakashi lectured him about Sakura's feelings?

[KnS]

guys, the biggest threat here isn't SS, it's NH. Sometimes I have feelings that Kishimoto likes more the positive love of Hinata towards Naruto.

 

Seriously?  NH?  A threat?  That's a positive love?  It's less negative than SS, granted, but how can it be considered positive when it is totally obsessive, one-sided, not even acknowledged, and contrary to the heart of the hero?

 

Sigh.

 

Did I get lost in the weeds?  Am I even on the right site?  *looks at URL*  No... this is really narusaku.com.

 

I honestly can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading around here lately.  

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

This argument is bothering me a bit so I'm just gonna say this.

 

Yes, you in fact CAN be in love with someone and not want to be with them. It does not have to be entirely literal. Maybe a part of you would like to be with that person and it hurts that you're not with that person because you love them, but you have another reason that overlaps that love. Reasons such as circumstance, maturity, knowing you need someone better, not trying to be selfish, things like that can be stronger feelings depending on the person.

 

Example:

 

Naruto rejected Sakura's confession in the Kage Summit Arc. Many anti-fans and some paranoid NS fans first took that as him not wanting to be with her. But in this situation, he rejected her because he she was lying to herself, not because he didn't love her. That overruled accepting Sakura in a relationship and I'm certain it would overrule it now if he thought Sakura still loved Sasuke.

 

 

Kakashi's words "She doesn't to get with you" does not prove she doesn't love Sasuke. It's an ambiguous statement and it depends on how literal you take it. It was either she doesn't want to be with you at all and has no feelings for or she has a stronger intent that overlaps it. I'm betting on the former.

[BlackBird19]

 I was just referring to  the way Sakura was talking about herself. Anyway if Naruto does in fact confess and Sakura does reciprocate then we will get that true love we've all been looking for. They will have equal parts of give and take. Equal parts of a selfish and selfless love.

[FreakySandra1995]

guys, the biggest threat here isn't SS, it's NH. Sometimes I have feelings that Kishimoto likes more the positive love of Hinata towards Naruto.

 

SS is already a disgrace by itself. NS is in the limbo and still depends all from Naruto (who has never made a move towards Sakura, seriously, this guy need to do something).

 

Oh, so is LeeSaku a threat then as well? Lee got his on spin off after all where it sometimes seriously deals with LeeSaku. 
Really, a little faith in the author wouldn't hurt    Kishi is able to write things right, and because he screw up sometimes does not mean he has to do it now always. If in the end I turn out to be false, well, shame on me. But I just believe that Kishi's knows what he's doing. 

[LuckyChi7]

So currently I'm rereading Volume 30, where Sakura fights Sasori granted she was being assisted by Lady Chiyo but one thing I realized is that she's first person from Team 7 to defeat an Akatsuki member. Which was also at the beginning of Shippuden. Then we get her in Volume 71 granted she was assisting Naruto and Sasuke to seal Kaguya. However there is no doubt in my mind that Sakura's also a major aspect in Kaguya's defeat as well. Yes there is that whole argument with Kakashi could've jumped in instead of Sakura so it couldn't matter. But that's not how I see it. 

 

 

From a writer's perspective, It's to show how far Team 7 has come since the beginning through Kakashi's perspective. Now jumping nack to my point about Sakura, in the beginning of Shippuden she was able to defeat (with Lady Chiyo of course) one of the Akatsuki members which is big compared to what she did pre-time skip. Then you get to where we are with the Kaguya fight which is where she helps defeat Kaguya, The Goddess behind Chakra. Yes the situation currently in the manga is different, but I understand why Kishi did what he did. Fighting Sasuke is only something that Naruto can do, but remember the manga's not over yet. There are 3 chapters left yes I know that, but do you really think Kishi is gonna let Sakura's character slide in the end after everything she's done during this final arc?  

 

Honeslty, No I don't see that happening with her because most of us know that Sakura will have some kind of resolution in these final 3 chapters. Besides it's like I stated a day or two ago, these last 3 chapters will wrap up the final volume, and I'm almost certain Kishi will find a way to make things right. 

[Naruko]

This argument is bothering me a bit so I'm just gonna say this.

 

Yes, you in fact CAN be in love with someone and not want to be with them. It does not have to be entirely literal. Maybe a part of you would like to be with that person and it hurts that you're not with that person because you love them, but you have another reason that overlaps that love. Reasons such as circumstance, maturity, knowing you need someone better, not trying to be selfish, things like that can be stronger feelings depending on the person.

 

Example:

 

Naruto rejected Sakura's confession in the Kage Summit Arc. Many anti-fans and some paranoid NS fans first took that as him not wanting to be with her. But in this situation, he rejected her because he she was lying to herself, not because he didn't love her. That overruled accepting Sakura in a relationship and I'm certain it would overrule it now if he thought Sakura still loved Sasuke.

 

 

Kakashi's words "She doesn't to get with you" does not prove she doesn't love Sasuke. It's an ambiguous statement and it depends on how literal you take it. It was either she doesn't want to be with you at all and has no feelings for or she has a stronger intent that overlaps it. I'm betting on the former.

 

Rejecting her doesn't mean he doesn't want to be with her, he wants to, but only if she does want him too. Though Sakura has always wanted a relationship with Sasuke, even if she knew he didn't want the same, then suddenly this comes out. She doesn't want it anymore. If part of you wants to be with that person, then you want it, even it's 50% of you. Though Kakashi didn't say "part of her doesn't want to be with you", he said she didn't want and period. If you love someone and the circumstances make it bad for you to be with them, deep in your heart you want that circumstances to change so you could be with that person, just like Naruto, he wants Sakura to love him, not Sasuke, a change of circumstances. Sorry, but that's what I know about romantic love.

Edited by Naruko, 18 October 2014 - 09:21 PM.

[Syn11]

This argument is bothering me a bit so I'm just gonna say this.

 

Yes, you in fact CAN be in love with someone and not want to be with them. It does not have to be entirely literal. Maybe a part of you would like to be with that person and it hurts that you're not with that person because you love them, but you have another reason that overlaps that love. Reasons such as circumstance, maturity, knowing you need someone better, not trying to be selfish, things like that can be stronger feelings depending on the person.

 

Example:

 

Naruto rejected Sakura's confession in the Kage Summit Arc. Many anti-fans and some paranoid NS fans first took that as him not wanting to be with her. But in this situation, he rejected her because he she was lying to herself, not because he didn't love her. That overruled accepting Sakura in a relationship and I'm certain it would overrule it now if he thought Sakura still loved Sasuke.

 

 

Kakashi's words "She doesn't to get with you" does not prove she doesn't love Sasuke. It's an ambiguous statement and it depends on how literal you take it. It was either she doesn't want to be with you at all and has no feelings for or she has a stronger intent that overlaps it. I'm betting on the former.

There's this BIG difference between not being with someone (because of the circumstances) and not wanting to be with someone. "I want, but I can't" normally doesn't equal "I don't want". Naruto didn't accept Sakura's offer because he couldn't at that moment. He explained it to Sai.

Edited by Syn11, 18 October 2014 - 09:24 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

guys, the biggest threat here isn't SS, it's NH. Sometimes I have feelings that Kishimoto likes more the positive love of Hinata towards Naruto.
 
SS is already a disgrace by itself. NS is in the limbo and still depends all from Naruto (who has never made a move towards Sakura, seriously, this guy need to do something).

I have to disagree. The thing is Naruto's not moving on is like a law, a rule, a character, and everything else all boiled into one. That's why open ending is the true villain for all of us. Naruto isn't going to change at all. He can be matured but not changing. Different entity. Lastly, there are way too many obvious plot points that I can imagine if Naruto dies, everyone that connects to him first word will be, "Really....."

[Naruko]

There is a difference between not being with someone (because of the circumstances) or not wanting to be with someone.

"I want, but I can't" normally doesn't equal "I don't want". Naruto didn't accept Sakura's offer because he couldn't at that moment. He explained it to Sai.

 

Exactly. 

[六道仙人]

 

Oh, so is LeeSaku a threat then as well? Lee got his on spin off after all where it sometimes seriously deals with LeeSaku. 
Really, a little faith in the author wouldn't hurt    Kishi is able to write things right, and because he screw up sometimes does not mean he has to do it now always. If in the end I turn out to be false, well, shame on me. But I just believe that Kishi's knows what he's doing. 

 

kishi is a moron. everyone who liked "500 days of summer" is automatically a moron to me lol

Edited by 六道仙人, 18 October 2014 - 09:27 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

The thing is Sakura needs a closure within her team because this has gone too far and again, Sasuke was about to do his last act before claiming his own throne. Kakashi can't fight and Naruto is the only one. If he dies, a new era will begin under Sasuke's idea. There's literally no one else to stop him. Now, everything needs to close because well, for starters, manga is ending. But the main reason is that this is the new era that they all about to enter and Sasuke has one shot to be good and with them, but yeah, you know the deal. Now, well, we are waiting whose era to follow and what Sasuke wants now in terms of The Last timeline.

[FreakySandra1995]

 

kishi is a moron. everyone who liked "500 days of summer" is automatically a moron to me lol

 

You know what? I loved twilight once. Now I'm forever a moron, huh?

[Akashi]

 

Oh, so is LeeSaku a threat then as well? Lee got his on spin off after all where it sometimes seriously deals with LeeSaku. 
Really, a little faith in the author wouldn't hurt    Kishi is able to write things right, and because he screw up sometimes does not mean he has to do it now always. If in the end I turn out to be false, well, shame on me. But I just believe that Kishi's knows what he's doing. 

 

 

kishi is a moron

I'm pretty sure that Kishi's editors and "Jump" staff are to blame for all this mess. If he wasn't dependent on anyone NaruSaku could have become canon years ago, and this story wouldn't be so Sasuke-centered. But it's business, so we have what we have...

[Naruko]

 

You know what? I loved twilight once. Now I'm forever a moron, huh?

 

Yes you are. 

[Syn11]

 

Exactly. 

So we have three sets in our love triangle:

Naruto: I want, but I can't. (we know that the restraining circumstances will (most probably) shortly change.)

Sakura: I don't know what I want, but Naruto's and Sasuke's well-being is a must. (this will change too... I hope.)

Sasuke: I don't want. (permanent, it seems.)

 

Do you see the picture here?

Edited by Syn11, 18 October 2014 - 09:37 PM.

[KnS]

Stop with the moron talk and insulting people for their personal taste.  It's rude and totally unnecessary.

[FreakySandra1995]

 

Yes you are. 

 

Well thank you. It's nice to see how you can automatically come that conclussion, although you don't know what exacty made me love the books and what made them despise me now. But hey, once a browny always a browny like some are used to say. Thank you so much.

(I can't tell you just how angry that just made me, even if you should have meant that as a joke.)

[六道仙人]

 

You know what? I loved twilight once. Now I'm forever a moron, huh?

 

But Kishi is an author, he writes Naruto. It's different... I said  that "who liked that film is a moron to me". I don't care about twhilight. He takes inspiration from movies, and I fear that he could be inspired from that movie, negatively speaking of course...