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[narusaku256]

Calm the kitten out everyone. We need not be calling each other with names especially when we belong to the same fandom. We don't wish to have fights when we belong to the same family now do we?

Two vodka shots would do the work XD

[narusaku256]

 
Kage arc nullifies your argument.

Kage arc nullifies what? May I know?

[redragon88]

Kage arc nullifies what? May I know?

 

That Naruto would be with Sakura if she still loved Sasuke romantically.

[narusaku256]

That Naruto would be with Sakura if she still loved Sasuke romantically.

Ah that! Well...most certainly..

[FireFox]

 

Do you even listen?!  If Sakura choses Naruto OVER Sasuke, it means she loves Naruto MORE. That's what I mean, and that's also what Tsuyu did with Naruto. But if you fail to see that, than for you there won't be an exactable ending, Mr. Negative. 

I'm not being negative and you don't need to insult me , again I'm just going by that scenario which is again "hypothetical"  there still needs to be resolution to her feelings for Sasuke for it be believable  in that scenario there isn't  one and bc of that there will always be an what if scenarios of who she loves more  even if she chooses Naruto . Is that so hard to understand ?  It would be ridiculous after everything for Sakura to still harbor romantic feelings for Sasuke and make her love "tragic" when that love doesn't make sense in first place  that's all .   

 

So we're just supposed to ignore that Kakashi and Hagoromo imply that she loves him like family and not romantically?
-Sasuke views it as romantic and rejects her.
-Kakashi corrects him saying "Sakura's not trying or wanting to make you hers! She only wants to save you!".
-Sasuke understands and thinks of his brother and parents.
-Hagoromo gives a speech about family love.
693 wasn't a negative chapter for NS like you're implying. It confirmed that neither Sakura or Sasuke have any desire to be with each other, and Kishi even had Naruto bring up the POAL to set up for NS.

Dude I was arguing  from a hypothetical scenario not that it was the case I even mentioned this .

Edited by NarutoFireFoxUzumaki, 18 October 2014 - 02:09 PM.

[六道仙人]

since I found out that the Kishimoto's favorite romantic movie is '500 days of Summer', i think that everything is possible with that one.

[FireFox]

 

Kage arc nullifies your argument.

Dude i'm aware of that , that Naruto wouldn't accept her if she did   but again  that needs to be shown on "panel"  in that story it isn't  and that is what I'm arguing this whole god damn time that's why that ending is kitten.  If you want a believable ending or remotely good   then Sakura needs to have that resolution and implies that she doesn't love Sasuke in that way  and also prove it to Naruto  .

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I too have problems with the idea Naruto will be with Sakura if she still loves Sasuke and just loves him more, but it isn't because of how it affects NaruSaku. If you love one person more, then it's not as if the guy or the shipping loses. It still wins.

 

My issue is it doesn't feel consistent with Naruto's character.  He would have to see something that truly, truly proves to him Sakura does indeed love him back and it can't just be through words. We saw how that worked out in the Kage Summit Arc. And Naruto also knew Sakura still had unresolved feelings for Sasuke.

 

Now this is just a conjecture, but that arc gives the impression he wouldn't want a relationship with Sakura if she still loved or had feelings for Sasuke. I think that would bother him, mostly because it would make him doubt if Sakura would really be happy with him. He wouldn't like that feeling for either of them.

 

Which begs the question what exactly Kishi thinks he can pull off to convince Naruto to be with Sakura after a chapter like 693.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 18 October 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[redragon88]

Dude i'm aware of that , that Naruto wouldn't accept her if she did   but again  that needs to be shown on "panel"  in that story it isn't  and that is what I'm arguing this whole god damn time that's why that ending is sh*tty.  If you want a believable ending or remotely good   then Sakura needs to have that resolution and implies that she doesn't love Sasuke in that way  and also prove it to Naruto  .

 

Let me get it straight, your problem is that the Gutsy Ninja novel is open ended and you don't want such an open ending with Naruto?

 

If that's your issue of course I agree with it. I was mentioning many posts ago that even though the novel is open ended with Tsuyu that we would see a continuation of that scenario through Sakura.

 

I imagine that Sakura would reach Naruto and say whatever Kishi wants her to say in order to let it be known that it's Naruto who she truly loves romantically.

Edited by redragon88, 18 October 2014 - 02:12 PM.

[narusaku256]

I too have problems with the idea Naruto will be with Sakura if she still loves Sasuke and just loves him more, but it isn't because of how it affects NaruSaku. If you love one person more, then it's not as if the guy or the shipping loses. It still wins.
 
My issue is it doesn't feel consistent with Naruto's character.  He would have to see something that truly, truly proves to him Sakura does indeed love him back and it can't just be through words. We saw how that worked out in the Kage Summit Arc. And Naruto also knew Sakura still had unresolved feelings for Sasuke.
 
Now this is just a conjecture, but that arc gives the impression he wouldn't want a relationship with Sakura if she still loved or had feelings for Sasuke. I think that would bother him, mostly because it would make him doubt if Sakura would really be happy with him. He wouldn't like that feeling for either of them.
 
Which begs the question what exactly Kishi thinks he can pull off to convince Naruto to be with Sakura after a chapter like 693.

If Sakura happens to have a revelation and understanding of the fact that her love for Sasuke was never love to begin with and if it ever was, she mistook it to be romantic love as against a familial one. And the lines depicting this scenario should be shown on panel like....Sakura having thoughts about it...like how she had thoughts about Naruto during the CPR and not just leaving it for interpretation. If she is consciously shown...on panel...to be accepting of her love for Sasuke as something superficial to begin with and the latter part of her feelings being familial...and what she feels for Naruto to be real love...then it can be a bit convincing. Just my opinion though...there sure are ways other than this to go about doing it...

[FireFox]

since I found out that the Kishimoto's favorite romantic movie is '500 days of Summer', i think that everything is possible with that one.

Seriously   . No wonder he's kitten with the romance in here    I still can't understand the ending  what was  the meaning of it  /

 

I too have problems with the idea Naruto will be with Sakura if she still loves Sasuke and just loves him more, but it isn't because of how it affects NaruSaku. If you love one person more, then it's not as if the guy or the shipping loses. It still wins.

 

My issue is it doesn't feel consistent with Naruto's character.  He would have to see something that truly, truly proves to him Sakura does indeed love him back and it can't just be through words. We saw how that worked out in the Kage Summit Arc. And Naruto also knew Sakura still had unresolved feelings for Sasuke.

 

Now this is just a conjecture, but that arc gives the impression he wouldn't a relationship with Sakura if she still loved or had feelings for Sasuke. I think that would bother him, mostly because it would make him doubt if Sakura would really be happy with him. He wouldn't like that feeling for either of them.

 

Which begs the question what exactly Kishi thinks he can pull off to convince Naruto to be with Sakura after a chapter like 693.

Thank you this is all I was trying to say from Naruto's point of view and his character he wouldn't want a relationship if that was the case .

As for 693 to me it was more about T7 family,brother,love  but I'll wait for follow up bc its ambiguous and it really makes no sens 

 

Let me get it straight, your problem is that the Gutsy Ninja novel is open ended and you don't want such an open ending with Naruto?

 

If that's your issue of course I agree with it. I was mentioning many posts ago that even though the novel is open ended with Tsuyu that we would see a continuation of that scenario through Sakura.

 

I imagine that Sakura would reach Naruto and say whatever Kishi wants her to say in order to let it be known that it's Naruto who she truly loves romantically.

Finally we understand each other  . Even though I don't like how it was done much like 693  , I want there to be a resolution  to everything  mostly her feelings for Sasuke that she doesn't love him and then move to Naruto to prove it to him that's all  . But my faith in Kishimoto isn't sparkling after all the kitten that he has written and the time we have in the manga  . 

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@narusaku26:

 

Kishi can do that with Sakura and that's why I see happening. Sakura realizing she doesn't love Sasuke the way she used to and that it became platonic. She only clung to that idea of loving him so much because that's what she thought was love so strongly at one point. I also really like the idea Sakura convinces herself she 'loves' Sasuke because she thinks that's the only way she can save him, though IMO it's subconscious. I also think Sakura's pretty ashamed of her feelings.

 

But the issue isn't Sakura. It's Naruto. Sakura can't just 'realize' her feelings for him. Naruto needs a "show, not tell" type of proof. Something that finally makes him think Sakura really loves him. If NaruSaku is to be canon or if Kishi is to be consistent with his character, Naruto needs to see something.

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 18 October 2014 - 02:34 PM.

[redragon88]

Finally we understand each other  . Even though I don't like how it was done much like 693  , I want there to be a resolution  to everything  mostly her feelings for Sasuke that she doesn't love him and then move to Naruto to prove it to him that's all  . But my faith in Kishimoto isn't sparkling after all the kitten that he has written and the time we have in the manga  . 

 

 

I'm still pretty sure Kishi will deliver when it comes to Sakura loving Naruto completely, even if the way he does it is considered crappy by some fans.

[luffyq1]

I too have problems with the idea Naruto will be with Sakura if she still loves Sasuke and just loves him more, but it isn't because of how it affects NaruSaku. If you love one person more, then it's not as if the guy or the shipping loses. It still wins.

 

My issue is it doesn't feel consistent with Naruto's character.  He would have to see something that truly, truly proves to him Sakura does indeed love him back and it can't just be through words. We saw how that worked out in the Kage Summit Arc. And Naruto also knew Sakura still had unresolved feelings for Sasuke.

 

Now this is just a conjecture, but that arc gives the impression he wouldn't want a relationship with Sakura if she still loved or had feelings for Sasuke. I think that would bother him, mostly because it would make him doubt if Sakura would really be happy with him. He wouldn't like that feeling for either of them.

 

Which begs the question what exactly Kishi thinks he can pull off to convince Naruto to be with Sakura after a chapter like 693.

sakura decapitates sasuke in front of naruto and she says "do you believe me now, naruto?"

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

@luffyq1:

 

Then Naruto hates Sakura forever for killing his soulmate.

[elmas]

Actually if Naruto was a bit interested in Hinata then NS wouldn't be so close to be canon.We have Naruto on our side.He never gives up.He never showed any feelings to Hinata.There's only Sasuke Sakura in his heart.And Naruto's ninja way is the biggest thing we have.Even more important than 631-663.So his feelings are more important.He's the main character after all.

But there's also Sakura.Sakura's feelings are important too but in my opinion she'll still have feelings for Sasuke but she'll love Naruto.It's a bad thing to love 2 men at the same time perhaps but Sasuke will return to team 7 again.They'll be together, do you think she'll run away from Sasuke or won't talk to him?Of course not,right?We know and think she'll be happy with Naruto.But she'll be happy with Sasuke too.She wants team 7 to be like in old days.So I can say Sasuke coming back will make her happy too.Only her selfish love for Sasuke makes her sad and pathetic.Her happiness will end when she will be with Sasuke.But her happiness with Naruto is different.Her love for Naruto makes her happy.Being with him never hurt and caused sorrow.That's why we say she should be with Naruto unlike SS.We want her to be happy.

 

Just my opinion.

[ns.Believe.It]

sakura decapitates sasuke in front of naruto and she says "do you believe me now, naruto?"

 

@luffyq1:

 

Then Naruto hates Sakura forever for killing his soulmate.

Lol this sort of reminds me of one of KnS's fanfiction story, I think Yurei. But there Naruto was the one who killed Sasuke.

[tonga1]

Don't be stupid. If that's "only" friendship, than she could think the same about everyone else. Naruto is the person Tsuyu cared about the most, more about Renge. She definelty feels more than friendsship for Naruto. 

There is another scene in the book that adresses hidden feelings Tsuyu have for Naruto.

Gutsy Ninja, P. 81

"Oy, that hurt! You old hag!" Naruto whined and blood flooded from his nose.

"If you continue to do that, men will most likely run away from you!"
"You pervert!"
"Gorilla-women!"

"What was that?!"

"Oh, you want to see naked women?" Shima interupted.

Tsuyu replied: "This is all what he can think of. His chakra is half made of megahorny energy."

"Yes, I like to see them!"

Suddely Shima opened her Kimino, so that is was able to see her naked breasts/boobs.

"Look." she said. Naruto and Tsuyu looked at the breast/boobs dumbfounded.

"Naruto, if you want I can show you more." Shima promised.

"Ahhhhhh...." Naruto screamed. The blood flowed through his nose like a fountain and he collapsed.

"But Shima..." Tsuyu tried hastily to correct Shima's clothes.

"Are you in love with him or what?" Shima asked unexpected and reveald herself again, as if to confirm her assumption/guess (Of Tsuyu being in love with Naruto). "Well, do you like it?"

Now Tsuyu's nose started to bleed too and blood and tears ran down her face. She looked at Naruto spechless, who shook his head and and shouted "I think I'm dying!"
"Well, now you're mine." Shima triumphed. 

"What was that?" Naruto asked.

"I said, you're now mine, Naruto."

"No, no, no!" Tsuyu shouted and waved her hand around.

"Shima, did you listen to me? Naruto is not like you think he is! He just always think about the one thing."

"And you're sure that you're not in love with Naruto?"

"Yeah, I'm sure."

"But didn't you two just teased yourself the whole time?"

"Surely not! Tsuyu denied unmistakably. "Really not."
"I don't believe you"

"But I just told you." Tsuyu replied.

"Naruto, please be mine!"

"Naruto." Tsuyu said hasily. "Don't get stupid ideas. She's just 16."

"Yeah, but for my age I'm way more better build then you" Shima said provokely. 

first: no insult me, u idiot

second: they are couple? no.

the end is open ending so is friendship

[narusaku256]

@narusaku26:
 
Kishi can do that with Sakura and that's why I see happening. Sakura realizing she doesn't love Sasuke the way she used to and that it became platonic. She only clung to that idea of loving him so much because that's what she thought was love so strongly at one point. I also really like the idea Sakura convinces herself she 'loves' Sasuke because she thinks that's the only way she can save him, though IMO it's subconscious. I also think Sakura's pretty ashamed of her feelings.
 
But the issue isn't Sakura. It's Naruto. Sakura can't just 'realize' her feelings for him. Naruto needs a "show, not tell" type of proof. Something that finally makes him think Sakura really loves him. If NaruSaku is to be canon or if Kishi is to be consistent with his character, Naruto needs to see something.

Here's something for you

Sai: Why don't you just tell her now that you've brought Sasuke back?

Naruto: Sakura....Sakura chan still loves Sasuke. I think she'd truly be happy if she goes with him

(gives a foxy grin and of course...sad from the inside..)

Naruto: Say, Sakura chan, Sasuke? Go to Ichiraku once we get back to Konoha?

Sakura: BAAAKAAAAAA(Slaps him real bad) I told you to be careful and there you go always being reckless!!!

Naruto: Gomenasai Sakura chan. But I really wanted to bring Sasuke back and fulfil my promise to you, ya know? Now you'll be happy again

(Forces a foxy grin on his face scratching his head)

Sakura: Come here you baka!!!

Naruto: Sakura cha...

(Clutches his collar and pulls him in for a kiss)

Naruto: Sakura...chan?

(Blinks and watches with those Sapphire blue eyes of his, staring deep into her Emerald green eyes)

Sakura: I was worried sick about you, you baka! Do you even know what I was going through when you were fighting? Leave apart Sasuke kun. I know you are there for him. But what about me? What if you did not come back alive? Do you know what I went through? Do you even have the slightest of an idea about what it was...for me...to think that I'd lose you when Kurama was extracted from you? No right? That's because you are always obsessed with Sasuke and running behind him! Care to think of my feelings sometimes? Care to run behind me like you run behind Sasuke kun?

Naruto: I've did that my entire life....but you just...gave away..a confession to Sasuke.

(Looks down...)

Sakura: SHUT UP! We've practically been together our whole life and all the more...together for almost every minute after you came back from your training and yet you don't understand my feelings? Forget about me, but you've matured enough, haven't you? You can make out when its desparation and true confession right? Baka...just like Jiraiya sensei...you don't understand a woman's heart at all! Lady Tsunade was right when she said Like teacher, like student.

Naruto: Ano..Sakura..cha

Sakura: Shut up! What are you looking at? I am pulling you in for another kiss. Come here you baka!!!!!

This is the answer to your question @xxRomanceGirlxx


Thank you very much...everyone

[FreakySandra1995]

first: no insult me, u idiot

second: they are couple? no.

the end is open ending so is friendship

 

"Don't be stupid" is a phrase I read a lot of times in english books which is an angry respond to a assumption, not an insult. I'm not from England, and it's not my first language. I never tried to insult you, but to show you how absurd I think your assumption is. Sorry if it seem that way,  however, if you call me an idiot, that's cleary an insult.
So no couple in the end=Can only be see as friendship? Do you have read the full book? In your native language? Do you know that even an open end can give you enough information to know how this can end? 
I have read the book a lot of times and I stand to my word that if there wouldn't be an open ending there, Tsuyu and Naruto would be together in the end. But I guess that's something the manga will do instead. 

Edited by FreakySandra1995, 18 October 2014 - 03:01 PM.