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[Nar123]

Like what? I've read a fan that complains that OP is sexist manga also.

 

If there is a author that is sexist here, his name is kikittenmoto

Edited by Nar123, 20 December 2014 - 03:22 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Like what? I've read a fan that complains that OP is sexist manga also.

Not badly as Naruto. The only thing you should be aware is the design being similar in terms of pretty ladies and just this one villain being all love. Other than that, you do get kick ass women, especially one is legit powerful and at the top rank. Not to mention, there is one that somewhat surprised me to see because coming from one back story, seeing her as top tier shocked me yet made me happy.

[unhskikrforever]

I'm sorry, but what? Konan wasn't a character that consistently appeared in the manga compared to a character like Karin, who was along side Sasuke and a part of TAKA. It's the design of the shirt that makes you point towards Karin, just like how the glasses on Salad make you point towards Karin. Konan's design wasn't in the manga, therefore it can't be used as a strong argument to compare the two. It's like comparing Ino to Kushina. Similar personalities when it comes to temper or gestures, but who was compared to Kushina in the manga? Sakura. Karin is the only one shown consistently in the manga with the same mid-drift style shirt, so it's only natural to see the similarities. I'm not just basing all of this on these designs. Also with 700, Karin's disappearance, Salad, Also said she resembled Tsunade too, not just Karin alone.

 

It's a concept design, as in an idea. Until I see it in the manga, then it's not an argument in my eyes. Who's to say that the design wasn't completely different? It sure was for characters like Hinata and Hanabi. If you're going to use that argument based on that fact, then rely on the manga instead of concepts. 

 

I'm well aware of the fact that Salad is Sasuke and Sakura's daughter, but to deny her resemblance to Karin is insane. It's there. Do you see the other children? (besides NH spawns) Each have a genetic trait from there parents, besides Salad. No clan related clothes, no parent specific clothes. This might have been Kishi's way of prioritizing the Uchiha genes or having individuality, but there was absolutely no reason for him to give her glasses and act in a way similar to Karin. None. It's not from my own imagination. They're similar both in looks and actions, though that's just my opinion. Feel free to disagree, but the manga is there for you to look at.

 

"Kishi's designs have more to do with how he decides designs than what you finding a minor detail that two characters share, with a connection that isn't very well done in the first place."

 

 Are you talking about Karin ---> Salad or Sakura and her new design?  If you're talking about Karin ---> Salad, then take a look at the other kids. It's strange and unnecessary , especially compared to how he designed them. It's these two sets of kids (NH & SS) that are different from their parents. There aren't any problems with Inojin, Chouchou, or Shikadai, are there? There's a purpose to everything, in my opinion. It would have been stupidly easy for Kishimoto to design more believable Naruhina and Sasusaku kids, but he didn't. It's strange. Again just my opinion, to each their own. 

 

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[Nar123]

All kish would have to do is come out and say it was all it and make a cannon novel that shows NS/SK.  SP can't stop him from doing that.

 

Why would he do that? It was his manga, in the end it was his decision. We only got this ending because he chose it

[AHK]

I've dropped One Piece because its fanservice.    Should I come back to it? On the scale 1 to 100, how sure are you that Oda will not copy step that Kishi takes? Isn't TG animated by SP too?

Fanservice? I've never reall noticed any in OP :/ you should, it's absolutely fantastic now! The current arc squashes anything Kishi ever did lol I would say 100. I've noticed that Oda does things his way. He really treasures his work, and I've heard that he's even told assistants "no" when they were making suggestions he didn't like. He will definitely no sell out. Yeah, SP animated TG, and apparently kittened it up so badly that the writer of TG stepped in and took over the production of season 2. But I was talking more about the manga. I have faith in the writer, as he's demonstrated by calling SP on their kitten.

Thank god for them. I would like to change my wording: SJ is doomed. Really, they can count on sports only, which might as well be Sports Jump. Not that I hate them, rather just seems like sports is a safe bet. All others are ok I guess but really, the days of Shounen in their own term is fading. OP is their only grace.

Yeah, I agree. OP seems to have been their anchor for the longest time now.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

All kish would have to do is come out and say it was all it and make a cannon novel that shows NS/SK.  SP can't stop him from doing that.

In 20 years, he will only say that he planned NS as canon, keep waiting.

[Popuri]

My intro to Gundam.

What about GUndam Wing? But I'm actually making modus to replace what's been gone  I lost every files of its manga, especially Blind Target and Episode Zero on my hard drive. So if you have it, can - you - please - be - kind - to - share - it - to - me? 

 

Also I'm catching up with Frozen Teardrop. Do you know about it?

 

Not sure how outside women at times, but OP is still great and setup always been great, especially ones that you just hate when it needed to be.

I'm going to watch TG, but I am fully aware that SP messed up a lot to the point the creator has to step in.

so you're saying back to OP is worthy? Great. How many chapter that OP has now?

 

 

Oh oh oh! You guys suggest me to come back to OP fandom!   First, who animated the manga? SP? Second, I stopped watching the anime after Franky joined Luffy, no, when they were about to meet the skeleton guy. After Franky joined Luffy. That.. what chapter is that? How many chapter I should catch up then?

Edited by xpopurix, 20 December 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[Chatte]

Doesn't mean it would taint his work. Kishi is not kubo.
Oda is commit with his work.

The moment he agrees to work on such a kitten tells a lot about his credibility...

So we were saying about Naruto until now. don't forget.

[TouKen4Life3g]

sanji being in nami's body was over the top imo.

Well there's that too. Other than that, really, it's all cool. People means something. I mean not much in the first arc of part 2 but now, well, it's shown. All roles are play.

[Metalhead87]

 

Turns out those last two pages are going to unveil the moon looming overhead with a suspicious, yet familiar pattern on it. Everything that we have seen thus far has been a lie. 

 

One can dream... Seriously, Kishi must be aware that he's digging himself into a hole so deep with his flakey comments that he'll eventually reach the the first circle of Hell if he keeps going. It would be moronic of him to publish pages that only reinforce the ending that's inciting so much resentment and disappointment. But we all know that these pages will have to do with the relationships so expect the worst. 

 

Ahh...that would be pretty nice.

 

It really does seem that every time Kishimoto attempts to dig himself out of the hole he has made for himself, he digs even deeper. I guess he's just a glutton for punishment. But yes, it's going to get worse before it gets better.

[rocci]

Like what? I've read a fan that complains that OP is sexist manga also.

Everything.
I don't think he is sexist. Maybe that happen because shonen jump.
Sj is notoriously conservative and sexist.
And like I said, he's no kishimoto. Kishimoto is blatantly sexist and he doesn't aware or care.

[AHK]

Oda collaborated with Kishi for that sh*tty ending...

The only thing Oda did was pay tribute to Naruto ending (the series as a whole), he had no hand in the actual ending.

sanji being in nami's body was over the top imo.

I thought that was hilarious, and that's what I think it was intended to be. I honestly think that was Oda's way of making fun of himself, and the industry he works in. It seemed like more of a satirical thing.

Edited by AHK, 20 December 2014 - 03:27 PM.

[Awes9]

His charm is his innocence and pure hearth in the world that could corrupt ourselves. Agree with guts. Never I saw in manga that a character is so badass yet so human at the same time. Casca T_T.

Griffith must die.

This last chapter Rickert has shown that he has an incredible spirit, this is what makes Berserk characters so fantastic they are real relatable and their development is fantastically done, Miura knows a lot about human psychology and it shows. If you're not up to date with Berserk I advice to read the last chapters especially the last one there's a scene (the one in my avatar) which will make you love Rickert. As for Guts I don't think there's a better character in the whole history of manga the most badass character you'll ever see but at the same time so human. Miura is such a genius if only he could write a bit faster.

[TouKen4Life3g]

What about GUndam Wing? But I'm actually making modus to replace what's been gone  I lost every files of its manga, especially Blind Target and Episode Zero on my hard drive. So if you have it, can - you - please - be - kind - to - share - it - to - me? 
 
Also I'm catching up with Frozen Teardrop. Do you know about it?
 
so you're saying back to OP is worthy? Great. How many chapter that OP has now?

Sorry, I don't have it.

Definitely. Believe it or not, I did try to downplay it by making sure Naruto is top for me. Can you believe that? But realistically, it's always been better in every ways. It's like I said many times and I'll try to not to spoil but...

If the series makes people cry over something not alive, then you know you have a masterpiece in your hand.

[DeathGodMack]

In 20 years, he will only say that he planned NS as canon, keep waiting.

 

 

Why would he do that? It was his manga, in the end it was his decision. We only got this ending because he chose it

Do you really believe chose to do this ending? I'm sure sj and sp(if sj had a hand in this and it wasn't just sps idea) have some sort of voting power on decisions/contractual things,that they used on kish to force this ending. We don't know what was in the contract so....

Edited by DeathGodMack, 20 December 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[Nar123]

xD 

 

Can you imagine if he includes an NS parting seen? I swear I'll go nuts if that happens, just to justify this kitten of a pairing. I wonder what the extra pages will be about, ugh. 

 

He already kittening adressed, It was the stupid retcon "Naruto loved sakura because rivalry" from the last, it makes naruto looks like a scumbag

[Nar123]

 

Do you really believe chose to do this ending? I'm sure sj and sp(if sj had a hand in this and it wasn't just sps idea) have some sort of voting power on decisions/contractual things,that they used on kish to force this ending. We don't know what was in the contract so....

 

No, kishi was probably swayed by SP ideas but they can't force him to do nothing. In the end kishi's at fault

[Atheck]

 

Ahh...that would be pretty nice.

 

It really does seem that every time Kishimoto attempts to dig himself out of the hole he has made for himself, he digs even deeper. I guess he's just a glutton for punishment. But yes, it's going to get worse before it gets better.

 

I don't see how the situation is going to improve, period. The end is is here and Kishi/Pierrot are only pushing it more and more instead of recanting it like so many of us are hoping for. We can only hope that the movie tanks and Junko's example isn't limited to just the spawn, but Naruto himself as well. 

[DeathGodMack]

 

No, kishi was probably swayed by SP ideas but they can't force him to do nothing. In the end kishi's at fault

 

Again we don't know what's in the contract. Wh ya 

 

 

Again we don't know what's in the contract. Why are you so against him being forced to do this?

Edited by DeathGodMack, 20 December 2014 - 03:34 PM.