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[Yyubie]

Who would have thought a weak, anoying, hard working, never give up brat turn out to be reincarnation of legendary ninja or god. That's just completely erase and destroy naruto as a character. Unlike Goku he is low level saiyan as baby only have 1 battle power while beside him baby broly have 10.000 battle power, Goku is not reincarnation of any god or legend, he really is a character that made from dirt, he worked hard to super saiyan 3. While naruto on the other hand, bassicly everything was handed to him. If in the end he is revealed to be god reincarnation what was the point introducing him as an outcast, hated, lonely, and weakling child?

 

And hamura?? lol this guy is kittening joke coming out of SP ass just to make byakugan and hinata fit into the legend.

[milan kyuubi]

Hey guys! Remember when Akatsuki rings were important? Yeah me neither!

[Shashank95]

I think only Gai and Lee epitomize the message this manga was supposed to send....... "Anything can be achieved and overcome through hardwork" but meh...... Kishi probably forgot when he started his Uchiha wanking.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Hey guys remember when Hinata was likeable? Me neither.

[RedFaction]

Hey guys remember when Hinata was likeable? Me neither.

What about Sasuke? Oh wait...he wasn't either.

[Bail o' Lies]

The thing is Naruto was suppose to become the greatest Hoake ever which probably means also strongest Hokage ever as well. Even with Kurama he was still suppose to get to the point by basically his own hard work. The reincarnation thing damaged it if not ruined it. And the kids just being given these abilities and being called born elites just makes it worse.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 24 August 2015 - 01:37 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

Hinata was initially a character that had decent potential. She was a shy girl that wanted to improve her self and used Naruto's example to inspire herself to grow stronger. She could also care about other people other than Naruto.

 

The problem is SP fell in love with her and stripped her of everything other than what they thought a prefect woman was.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 24 August 2015 - 01:40 PM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Hinata was initially a character that had decent potential. She was a shy girl that wanted to improve her self and used Naruto's example to inspire herself to grow stronger. She could also care about other people other than Naruto.
 
The problem is SP fell in love with her and stripped her of everything other than what they thought a prefect woman was.

There's no such thing as a perfect woman. Sakura wasn't perfect but what made me like her was that she matured and grew smarter. That is before 693.

[Nostradamus]

Who would have thought a weak, anoying, hard working, never give up brat turn out to be reincarnation of legendary ninja or god. That's just completely erase and destroy naruto as a character. Unlike Goku he is low level saiyan as baby only have 1 battle power while beside him baby broly have 10.000 battle power, Goku is not reincarnation of any god or legend, he really is a character that made from dirt, he worked hard to super saiyan 3. While naruto on the other hand, bassicly everything was handed to him. If in the end he is revealed to be god reincarnation what was the point introducing him as an outcast, hated, lonely, and weakling child?

 

And hamura?? lol this guy is kittening joke coming out of SP ass just to make byakugan and hinata fit into the legend.

And this is why Goku is awesome and Naruto sucks. When you look at the way Toriyama made Goku, and then look at the way Kishi made Naruto. The difference is huge. Goku always had to train to get the power that he has. On the other hand Naruto trained a bit then later on powers were just given to him and he just accepted them without questions or any complains.

Look at Goku in Battle of Gods; he needed power from the rest to fight Beerus but when he got that power he was happy that he could fight Beerus but at the same time he was disappointed that he couldn't achieve that power by myself.

[RedFaction]

There's no such thing as a perfect woman. Sakura wasn't perfect but what made me like her was that she matured and grew smarter. That is before 693.

You should know all women don't mature and remain fangirls until the one that's in their heart accepts their love out of pity. When that happens they remain a housewife for the rest of their lives. If they can't do any of that then they're a terrible woman, like Ino or Karin.

Edited by RedFaction, 24 August 2015 - 01:47 PM.

[Namikaze Clan]

People say that Hinata was unlikable even in Part 1, but then again so was Sakura. Both had potential, but sadly Kishi wasted it

[hinataiscreepy]

Honestly, a lot of people were already sick of Naruto before the ending because of the war arc and the tons of problems with it. The ending was far worse than we could have possibly imagined, and the pairings were part of the problem, but if we kept everything the same and just had NaruSaku happened the ending would still suck.

 

I guarantee if we had got The Last: NaruSaku version that would have pleased absolutely no one at all.

 

You could clearly see that Kishi during the war arc stopped giving a crap( no passion,  nonsensical story terrible art, no cover pages, character regression and lack of good villains) and let the Hinatards have their fantasy kitten ending in his indifference as icing on the cake. 

[redrose3443]

The thing about part one Sakura, is that the anime kinda ruined her.

 

When I read part one in the manga, Sakura's development was obvious, because after each arc, she slowly came to be nicer to Naruto and not fangirl every second over Sasuke. Then, in the chunin exams her growth became very apparent, when she started supporting Naruto's dream, realized that she was no real ninja, but still willing to fight to protect her teammates, and wanting to beat Ino not merely because of Sasuke, but because Ino was someone she aspired to be like and surpass.

 

Sure, she still had her selfish love for Sasuke, but she was noticing more things and people than just him, like when she went to visit Lee in the hospital or when she was focusing on Naruto,during his fight with Neji, instead of just wondering about Sasuke. Not to mention her actions became less selfish, like when she was willing to run in front of Sasuke and Naruto, who were fighting on the roof and when she jumped in front of Sasuke, to prevent Gaara's attack from hurting him.

 

Her growth was natural and real in part one and the manga really showed it.

 

The anime on the other hand, hardly showed it at all. During the bench scene they added a moment of Sakura yelling at Naruto and calling him an idiot after she just promised she would be a bit nicer to him. During the wave mission SP edited out the scene where Sakura saved Naruto and what really made her development take a step back, were all those fillers. Because, all they showed were Sakura fangirling over Sasuke, beating up Naruto, and not caring about trying to become a real ninja, even though they happened after the chunin exams, where she started to get better in the manga.

 

That's why people are always saying part one Sakura was just annoying, because the anime did not portray her development properly and it looks like she didn't change, until part two finally rolled around. That's another reason why I dislike the anime, because it messes up the characters and is just too inaccurate to believe, so why even watch it, if it's not reliable? Part one Sakura may not have been the best character, but she was definitely not as bad as people are always making her out to be.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Just want to come in to say MGS5 is a masterpiece.

[hinataiscreepy]

Not to mention that they add a scene where she has a headbutt fight with Ino when they go to class. Another scene where she refuses to eat with Naruto after they go out of class. Hinata is already shown naruto kuning already which makes things worse.

 

All these little scenes makes it easier to hate her and love Hinata unconsciously.

[hinataiscreepy]

Just want to come in to say MGS5 is a masterpiece.

 

 

MGS is a good way to get over Naruto. If you have not started the series... you better get at it now or at least watch the play through on youtube. Play the games in order of release.

[Nostradamus]

Not to mention that they add a scene where she has a headbutt fight with Ino when they go to class. Another scene where she refuses to eat with Naruto after they go out of class. Hinata is already shown naruto kuning already which makes things worse.

 

All these little scenes makes it easier to hate her and love Hinata unconsciously.

And these small moments gave the false perception that Sakura is a selfish kitten while Hinata is a sweet adorable selfless girl that is meant for Naruto.

When in reality it's the opposite Sakura is the sweet and selfless girl that always stood by Naruto's side, while Hinata is a selfish kitten that never cared about anyone around her. Her cousin died, and the only thing she could think about was Naruto's hand. Yeah such a sweet girl.

SP turned truth into lie and lie into truth.

[Catra]

eh, mgs is up there as one of the most pretentious stories out there

[hinataiscreepy]

And these small moments gave the false perception that Sakura is a selfish kitten while Hinata is a sweet adorable selfless girl that is meant for Naruto.

When in reality it's the opposite Sakura is the sweet and selfless girl that always stood by Naruto's side, while Hinata is a selfish kitten that never cared about anyone around her. Her cousin died, and the only thing she could think about was Naruto's hand. Yeah such a sweet girl.

SP turned truth into lie and lie into truth.

 

I thankfully read the manga version first and did not hate her at all. I thought she was hilarious and she is like the ordinary girl next door. Kishi gave her flaws but not to the point of being despicable. The anime makes her hatable and pathetic. Not to mention that they completely forgot that scene where Naruto promises to himself to be stronger and hopes that Sakura will eventually like him.

 

I suspected back then that Neji's death was solely  a way to make NH canon before the ending... then it turns out I was right ! Neji had no development in part 2. There was no sense of build up and development for us to care. It just happens and feels  forced and contradicts the whole point of Neji's character. Its a stupid copy of Ace's death in One Piece its so damn obvious and Hinatards still try to defend how this death makes perfect sense.

 

You thin that there would be a closure with Naruto saying that he managed to keep his promise to Sakura. Its deleted cause it would make NH bad. Not to mention Kishi stating that Hinata's popularity clearly had an effect on her importance to the plot.

[hinataiscreepy]

eh, mgs is up there as one of the most pretentious stories out there

 

On the contrary. Its maybe one of the best out there. It looks pretentious on the outside but is more humble , honest and thought provoking  on the inside.

 

I would think more of something like the Dark Knight that looks humble on the outside but extremely pretentious and manipulative on the inside.

Edited by hinataiscreepy, 24 August 2015 - 04:49 PM.