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#3601 redragon88

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:50 PM

QUOTE (HalfStarStudios @ Aug 20 2012, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not but i'm still not going to rule out NaruHina and SasuSaku.

NaruHina never really had a chance in my opinion.

There's plenty of anime where they show a secondary character who's a shy girl that's in love with the hero. Their purpose is not to be the final love interest, but to show that the hero does have some good qualities that can be appealing to the opposite sex.

The concept of Hinata liking Naruto was there to show us that it wasn't crazy that eventually Sakura, the real love interest, would also fall in love with him as she slowly discovered those good points that Naruto possessed.

SasuSaku could happen if Kishi had a thing for bittersweet endings for romance, but to me it seems that he wouldn't want to do that to Naruto, especially after all he's been through.

Naruto will only love Sakura, so either he ends up with her or forever watch her be happy from a distance. Given that Jiraiya could only watch Tsunade from afar and never be truly happy being with her, I think Kishi will make Naruto achieve the happy ending that Jiraiya tragically could never have.

There also Obito, Naruto's other counter part, one of his deepest regrets as he died was that he never got the chance to confess his love to Rin. So at the very least we know to Naruto should have the courage to confess his love to Sakura so that he doesn't face the same regrets as Obito.

I gotta say, Obito's death was one of the most emotional in the series. It was like seeing what would happen if all of Naruto's efforts ended in tragedy. Kishi showed it like that so that the satisfaction we get from seeing Naruto succeed will be even greater.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 20 2012, 04:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NaruHina never really had a chance in my opinion.

There's plenty of anime where they show a secondary character who's a shy girl that's in love with the hero. Their purpose is not to be the final love interest, but to show that the hero does have some good qualities that can be appealing to the opposite sex.

The concept of Hinata liking Naruto was there to show us that it wasn't crazy that eventually Sakura, the real love interest, would also fall in love with him as she slowly discovered those good points that Naruto possessed.

SasuSaku could happen if Kishi had a thing for bittersweet endings for romance, but to me it seems that he wouldn't want to do that to Naruto, especially after all he's been through.

Naruto will only love Sakura, so either he ends up with her or forever watch her be happy from a distance. Given that Jiraiya could only watch Tsunade from afar and never be truly happy being with her, I think Kishi will make Naruto achieve the happy ending that Jiraiya tragically could never have.

There also Obito, Naruto's other counter part, one of his deepest regrets as he died was that he never got the chance to confess his love to Rin. So at the very least we know to Naruto should have the courage to confess his love to Sakura so that he doesn't face the same regrets as Obito.

I gotta say, Obito's death was one of the most emotional in the series. It was like seeing what would happen if all of Naruto's efforts ended in tragedy. Kishi showed it like that so that the satisfaction we get from seeing Naruto succeed will be even greater.

This.

Naruto is all about surpassing the odds and old generation regrets and failures. I don't need to say more because redragon88 said enough. Thank you. Now the possibility of NaruSaku for me is 95%.

Edited by NaruSaku4Life3g, 20 August 2012 - 08:58 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 20 2012, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my sincere opinion they blow off this poll because 3 yaoi pairing on the top 3 and they did on purpose with scripts just for troll


I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. smile.gif

Kishimoto did say even early on in part 1 that almost all the letters he was getting were from female readers and you'd probably be shocked at just how high a percentage of female manga readers in Japan are yaoi shippers, they read shonen manga just to have more yaoi ships. laugh.gif
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:19 PM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Aug 20 2012, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. smile.gif

Kishimoto did say even early on in part 1 that almost all the letters he was getting were from female readers and you'd probably be shocked at just how high a percentage of female manga readers in Japan are yaoi shippers, they read shonen manga just to have more yaoi ships. laugh.gif


all you have to do is look at the sheer volume of Yaoi doujinshi to understand how large the Fujoshi fanbase is in Japan. the amount of Zoro/Sanji (from One Piece) is staggering tongue.gif

and since "all" Fujoshi care about pairings while most of the "male" audience of Naruto doesn't give a fig the results are going to be obvious

Edited by Verilance, 20 August 2012 - 10:19 PM.



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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 20 2012, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
all you have to do is look at the sheer volume of Yaoi doujinshi to understand how large the Fujoshi fanbase is in Japan. the amount of Zoro/Sanji (from One Piece) is staggering tongue.gif

and since "all" Fujoshi care about pairings while most of the "male" audience of Naruto doesn't give a fig the results are going to be obvious

and ciardha i agree to disagree, so we have more than 1 million of fujoshi and at least 100.000 normal pairings so, and most of the votes closed ended in 000 and some others with a fixed number, for me it sounds a troll because even with "research" you cannot reach such a number.
i know that fujoshi is popular but does not make sense if we get at leat 80% of the naruto fanbase on japan is a fujoshi does not make any sense.
i smell script done by users to blow off an poll.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:01 PM

QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 19 2012, 03:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's the least popular Big 3 pairing, at least in the west. When you get really emotionally involved with something, common sense is often thrown out the window. Sometimes, I feel like presenting all the NS, SS, and NH moments (basically, any moments that are deemed SS and NH moments by SS/NH fans, even if NS fans don't necessarily consider it a moment) to someone who knows absolutely nothing about Naruto and its characters. I'd like to see their opinion on which pairing is more likely to happen.

I actually did something similar on my blog. I took each panel of Sakura's confession and presented it sequentially with the dialogue removed, and asked people who have never read Naruto and don't know anything about the story to interpret the scene based purely on posture and facial expressions. The results were very interesting to say the least.



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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:23 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 20 2012, 06:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and ciardha i agree to disagree, so we have more than 1 million of fujoshi and at least 100.000 normal pairings so, and most of the votes closed ended in 000 and some others with a fixed number, for me it sounds a troll because even with "research" you cannot reach such a number.
i know that fujoshi is popular but does not make sense if we get at leat 80% of the naruto fanbase on japan is a fujoshi does not make any sense.
i smell script done by users to blow off an poll.


you misunderstand it is not 80% of the fanbase but 80% of those who cared enough to respond most manga readers both here and there couldn't give a tinkers damn about pairings in Naruto...

whether or not the numbers are skewed I am not sure but there are legions of Fujoshi in Japan else the sheer amount of material that is made for them would not be made cuz no one would be buying it.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:42 PM

QUOTE (Verilance @ Aug 21 2012, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
you misunderstand it is not 80% of the fanbase but 80% of those who cared enough to respond most manga readers both here and there couldn't give a tinkers damn about pairings in Naruto...

whether or not the numbers are skewed I am not sure but there are legions of Fujoshi in Japan else the sheer amount of material that is made for them would not be made cuz no one would be buying it.


not 80% but 90%.
the numbers are skewed for a lot of reasons.

As ciardha said u can agree to disagree and move on, they did a research about pairings and "some" people blow it off.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:05 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Aug 20 2012, 07:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
not 80% but 90%.
the numbers are skewed for a lot of reasons.

As ciardha said u can agree to disagree and move on, they did a research about pairings and "some" people blow it off.


I was not talking about the poll because I do not know the accuracy as I stated I was merely pointing out wrong assumptions that lead to questioning the accuracy of the poll.

however I will stop this because mindless banter from me is just that mindless and it will go on in circles forever

Edited by Verilance, 21 August 2012 - 12:06 AM.



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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:53 AM

I have question, why do people always say that Sasuke is not the same person that Sakura fell in love with anymore. When did Sakura every had a good reason to fall in love with Sasuke, like said before Sakura's love for Sasuke is shallow, naive, delusional, and abusive. We have some sense of why Naruto loves Sakura and before Hinata's confession, we knew why she loved him, but for Sakura we got nothing.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:15 AM

QUOTE (KnS @ Aug 20 2012, 04:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually did something similar on my blog. I took each panel of Sakura's confession and presented it sequentially with the dialogue removed, and asked people who have never read Naruto and don't know anything about the story to interpret the scene based purely on posture and facial expressions. The results were very interesting to say the least.


Can show us a link to those results?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 01:24 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Aug 15 2012, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I recently read the manga chapters where Sakura confessed to Sasuke, the Promise of the Lifetime and the last few chapters of Part 1 (I never read those parts in the manga before, I remember watching them solely on the anime, but it has been years). Reading those chapters made me reconfirmed certain things that I already knew, and KIND OF proves, or at least supports, certain speculations I have.

1) Sakura really DOES love Sasuke, and I still think she does. I kind of figure it was a no brainer, but I see people arguing about Sakura's feelings about Sasuke. Reading her confession to him made realize that she did love Sasuke, as she says she was always happy around him (though I think she was talking about being a part of team with him, and may have been talking about Team 7 itself, but she singled him out). Like what Sai told Naruto after he figured out that he loves Sakura ("You always smile when you're around her..."), and what Hinata said to Naruto during her confession to him (something about always being happy when he's around, didn't reread her confession, though I think I should read all the 'potential' pro-naruhina moments). But during that whole confession, she never gave me a good reason why she should be in love with Sasuke. At least for Naruto it has been IMPLIED he had other reasons to like her, other than her looks, and Hinata fell in love with Naruto because of his determination. Which leads me to my first speculation...

2) The bench scene IS important, and it CAN be the reason why Sakura is in love with Sasuke. They were at that bench when she caught him leaving, and she brought up the time when he called her annoying. She also mentions that that was the day they became Team 7, but weirdly doesn't mention the part where 'he' (really Naruto) comments on her forehead and they nearly kissed. But what was sad to me, what really got me, was that she claims she will be alone if he leaves and tells him that she'll make him very happy if he chooses to be with her (it didn't matter if he left the village or not, she was wiling to go with him). It really got to me because I felt incredibly bad for Sakura, as she really believes that she will be alone without him. This actually reminds me about the average teenage girl, who feel like having a boyfriend means everything, and, for those who felt lonely, made them feel less...alone. But if you think about it, she was actually being incredibly selfish in her confession. She didn't want him to leave not because of his own sake, but for her own. She didn't want to be alone again, so she begged him not to go so that she wouldn't lose him and to not feel lonely again. That made me sad too, not only does she believes she's alone, but the fact that she believed that Sasuke was the one that prevented her loneliness. But I believe if you ask most fans, especially fans on this website, about who was more there for Sakura, they'll say Naruto. Oh, and the bench scene could still be very important in how Naruto can win her over. Cause if that whole day, where they first became Team 7, was really important to Sakura (and she even mentions SPECIFICALLY the time Sasuke called her annoying), then won't it make sense that it will still be important for her for other reasons (like the day she believed she started loving Sasuke). Naruto even remembers that time he pretended to be Sasuke, as it was shown, in flashback, that Naruto was recalling the time when Sakura told him (Sasuke) that she wanted him (Sasuke) to accept her during her confession to him. And if you believe it has been to long for that to still be important, remember that Sakura's confession to Naruto was in the 470s, and recently Kurama joked with Naruto about the time he kissed Sasuke, which happen in the same chapter (3). The joke happen around 570s, and if we are lead to believe that complimenting the aspect of a girl that even she doesn't like is ONE of the things that will make her fall in love with you, then would it make sense that Sakura fell in love with the wrong person because she believed he was the only to like the aspect of herself that she hated the most (her forehead).*

3) The Promise of the Lifetime was to sort (remember it being longer in the anime), and doesn't really sell the fact to the audience that Naruto is in love with Sakura. Don't get me wrong, it was implied, STRONGLY implied ("I understand how you feel about Sasuke, I feel it too."). But it wasn't as emphasized, nor as obvious, as Sakura's confession to Sasuke, in which she yells at him that she loves him and doesn't want to see him go. And even though Sakura's crush on Sasuke was selfish (or "naive"), at that point we, the audiences, figured that Sakura has grown to really love Sasuke (evident when she cried for him when she saw him in the hospital, and later made more obvious in her confession). We weren't, at that point, have been given a good reason of how or why Naruto is in love with Sakura. We know what he will do for her (save her from Gaara, and then make the promise), but we haven't been reasons, or at least not obvious reasons, of why he should been in love with this girl. So really, when he makes her that promise, I can see why people may not believe he did it because he loved her. But because she was his friend, and couldn't keep his original promise that Sasuke will never leave. Though you can see there is sadness coming from Naruto, not only on the fact that Sasuke has left and Sakura is begging him to bring him back, but he actually does seem little bit sad about the whole Sakura loving Sasuke thing. But really, even though I understand people missing that the first time, by the time summit arc hit and Sai tells Sakura that Naruto loves her I think people should have realized it by now.

4) I understand why people may believe that series will end Naruhina and/or Sasusaku, because I PROBABLY would have also believed that the series was going to that direction. Now don't get me wrong, at that point I would prefer Narusaku being the endgame, cause of the whole Promise of the Lifetime thing. But that's the direction was heading to because 1) Sakura's crush has been a lot more emphasized and she did seem to love him, and 2) Hinata still has a crush on Naruto, and was the last one to see him off. At that point, it seemed like an all win situation, Naruto just needed to let go of his feelings for Sakura, or for those feelings to never be brought up again. Also, like I said above, Naruto's crush has never seemed as obvious as Sakura's "naive" crush on Sasuke, nor as Hinata's crush on Naruto. In fact, in Part 1, the main character traits for both of those girls was their crushes. People (me included) saw Sakura as a Sasuke fangirl, thus those people would have believe that Sakura will become his girlfriend. Hinata was introduce as the shy girl with a crush on the main character (and she still is that), thus people would assume she will get her shyness and end up being Naruto's girlfriend. Naruto was NOT introduce as the guy with a crush on Sakura, and people seem to always want to be reminded about his crush for them to believe that Naruto is in love with Sakura (or for him to still be in love with her). Actually though, if it was just the love triangle between Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke (it's not really a triangle, more of a line), then I don't think there would have been so much debate about Narusaku becoming cannon, because it was just the triangle then it would be obvious that Naruto will win. But no, we have the Naruhina possibility, which will provide an all win situation where everyone gets paired together. Oh, and Hinata became stupidly popular afterwards.

*I felt kind of silly typing that down, because I didn't want the bench scene to become important in how Naruto wins her over, but I'm cool if it only leads her in realizing that she never really loved Sasuke romantically. At that point I want her to be already fully in love with Naruto (meaning she has no doubts), and the bench scene will just make her let go of her feelings for Sasuke.


^Here's a LONG comment I made about Sakura's confession to Sasuke.
I bring it up again as an answer to this. v

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 20 2012, 05:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have question, why do people always say that Sasuke is not the same person that Sakura fell in love with anymore. When did Sakura every had a good reason to fall in love with Sasuke, like said before Sakura's love for Sasuke is shallow, naive, delusional, and abusive. We have some sense of why Naruto loves Sakura and before Hinata's confession, we knew why she loved him, but for Sakura we got nothing.



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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:42 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 20 2012, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have question, why do people always say that Sasuke is not the same person that Sakura fell in love with anymore. When did Sakura every had a good reason to fall in love with Sasuke, like said before Sakura's love for Sasuke is shallow, naive, delusional, and abusive. We have some sense of why Naruto loves Sakura and before Hinata's confession, we knew why she loved him, but for Sakura we got nothing.

Some people argue that Sakura fell in love with Sasuke for real as she saw that he wasn't perfect and had a lot of emotional flaws. But that still remains the fans interpretation. Canonically we still haven't been given a reason as to why she loves him, she just does.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that her confession was done with extreme desperation and was more for her own sake than for his. Sakura's love for Sasuke is always centered on how it affects her, it's never about what Sasuke goes through.

She kept on saying how she would feel lonely without him even though she had family and friends, that was pretty selfish of her to say.

Then she goes on to say how she'll make it so every day will be happy and that she'll do anything for him, it might sound as if she's thinking about his happiness but when seen closely you'll notice she's actually bargaining with Sasuke. She's only offering to make him happy and do anything for him as an exchange for him staying. She doesn't want to feel miserable so she saying anything she can think of to make him stay.

Sasuke still remains uninterested, so you could say that negotiations were failing. Therefore, Sakura goes to her last resort by saying that she would help him with his revenge and that if he had to leave then to take her with him. By this point it's obvious that Sakura is thinking more about preserving her own happiness than she was interesting in helping Sasuke.

Sakura offering to go with Sasuke pretty much seal the deal on the fact that she was only thinking about how these events would affect her emotionally. If Sakura's love for Sasuke was of the true selfless kind that would only center on wanting Sasuke to be happy then Sakura, instead of offering to go with him, would've basically done what Naruto did.

I'm not saying she would've fought him, I'm taking about the words she would've used. Sakura would've told Sasuke how stupid he was for leaving a village that cared for him. Instead of offering to help him with his revenge she would've insisted on how foolish he was for chasing something that would never bring him happiness. She would've told Sasuke to opening his eyes and notice how there are so many people around him that care about him. She would've told him to start relying on the people how are always there for him (Naruto, Kakashi, her, etc.) instead of acting alone. She would've told him that he was an idiot for acting alone and that it would only doom him to failure.

If Sakura truly had a selfless love for Sasuke then she would've told him how much of an idiot he was for taking the path of revenge. Even if it meant being mean to Sasuke if she truly loved him in a selfless manner she would've done so because she knew it was the best for him. At the beginning she mentioned how revenge wouldn't bring him happiness, but instead of standing her ground and keep at it she shifted to how him leaving would make her sad and it just kept deteriorating from there to the point were she even offered to help with his revenge even though she herself said just moments ago that it wouldn't bring him happiness.

At that moment Sakura was more concerned with how her happiness was going away instead of worrying about how Sasuke would get corrupted.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:52 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Aug 20 2012, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can show us a link to those results?

I can't, actually. It's my private blog on LiveJournal and the entries are locked. Sorry. However, I can give you a summary of the relevant comments.

As the confession progressed, all those who replied and answered every question (19 people) categorized the characters this way:

Naruto = thrilled, suspicious, open, determined, upset
Sakura = compassionate (or sympathetic), pensive, melancholy, frustrated
Sai = sad
Kakashi = not surprised, contemplative **
Yamato = surprised
Lee = shocked, uncomfortable
Kiba = questioning, impatient

** Kakashi also got a lot of comments about looking "stoned." LOL

I screened the comments so responders couldn't see each other's replies, and I just showed the pictures with no prompts. I asked responders to use one word (if possible) to label what they saw in each panel.

What I thought was most interesting was how, based solely on their faces and posture, the responses were so uniform. And Sakura was universally interpreted as positive. It was equally interesting that literally every reply about Sai said he looked "sad."

Edited by KnS, 21 August 2012 - 03:31 AM.


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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:11 AM

QUOTE (KnS @ Aug 20 2012, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't, actually. It's my private blog on LiveJournal and the entries are locked. Sorry. However, I can give you a summary of the relevant comments.

As the confession progressed, all those who replied and answered every question (19 people) categorized the characters this way:

Naruto = thrilled, suspicious, open, determined, upset
Sakura = compassionate (or sympathetic), pensive, melancholy, frustrated
Sai = sad
Kakashi = not surprised, contemplative **
Yamato = surprised
Lee = shocked, uncomfortbale
Kiba = questioning, impatient

** Kakashi also got a lot of comments about looking "stoned." LOL

I screened the comments so responders couldn't see each other's replies, and I just showed the pictures with no prompts. I asked responders to use one word (if possible) to label what they saw in each panel.

What I thought was most interesting was how, based solely on their faces and posture, the responses were so uniform. And Sakura was universally interpreted as positive. It was equally interesting that literally every reply about Sai said he looked "sad."


Awesome, thanks. This kind of supports my interpretation of the confession, of how the emotions COULD be there, her feelings could be genuine. But you just know that she isn't being honest about something, so we (the fans) know that they couldn't get together in that instance. The situation of why the confession was brought about wasn't right, nor was the timing.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:32 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 20 2012, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Some people argue that Sakura fell in love with Sasuke for real as she saw that he wasn't perfect and had a lot of emotional flaws. But that still remains the fans interpretation. Canonically we still haven't been given a reason as to why she loves him, she just does.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that her confession was done with extreme desperation and was more for her own sake than for his. Sakura's love for Sasuke is always centered on how it affects her, it's never about what Sasuke goes through.

She kept on saying how she would feel lonely without him even though she had family and friends, that was pretty selfish of her to say.

Then she goes on to say how she'll make it so every day will be happy and that she'll do anything for him, it might sound as if she's thinking about his happiness but when seen closely you'll notice she's actually bargaining with Sasuke. She's only offering to make him happy and do anything for him as an exchange for him staying. She doesn't want to feel miserable so she saying anything she can think of to make him stay.

Sasuke still remains uninterested, so you could say that negotiations were failing. Therefore, Sakura goes to her last resort by saying that she would help him with his revenge and that if he had to leave then to take her with him. By this point it's obvious that Sakura is thinking more about preserving her own happiness than she was interesting in helping Sasuke.

Sakura offering to go with Sasuke pretty much seal the deal on the fact that she was only thinking about how these events would affect her emotionally. If Sakura's love for Sasuke was of the true selfless kind that would only center on wanting Sasuke to be happy then Sakura, instead of offering to go with him, would've basically done what Naruto did.

I'm not saying she would've fought him, I'm taking about the words she would've used. Sakura would've told Sasuke how stupid he was for leaving a village that cared for him. Instead of offering to help him with his revenge she would've insisted on how foolish he was for chasing something that would never bring him happiness. She would've told Sasuke to opening his eyes and notice how there are so many people around him that care about him. She would've told him to start relying on the people how are always there for him (Naruto, Kakashi, her, etc.) instead of acting alone. She would've told him that he was an idiot for acting alone and that it would only doom him to failure.

If Sakura truly had a selfless love for Sasuke then she would've told him how much of an idiot he was for taking the path of revenge. Even if it meant being mean to Sasuke if she truly loved him in a selfless manner she would've done so because she knew it was the best for him. At the beginning she mentioned how revenge wouldn't bring him happiness, but instead of standing her ground and keep at it she shifted to how him leaving would make her sad and it just kept deteriorating from there to the point were she even offered to help with his revenge even though she herself said just moments ago that it wouldn't bring him happiness.

At that moment Sakura was more concerned with how her happiness was going away instead of worrying about how Sasuke would get corrupted.

You are so right with your post, Sakura's confession look so bad and selflish. I still wanna know did Kishi did that on purpose or did he really think he wrote a genuine confession.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:48 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 20 2012, 11:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You are so right with your post, Sakura's confession look so bad and selflish. I still wanna know did Kishi did that on purpose or did he really think he wrote a genuine confession.

I heard that Kishi let one of his old editors to do that scene or something like that. If that's the case, it seems that Kishi never took that pairing as a the endgame, rather to break her down to be revived by Naruto. Kishi said he wants to do a romance in Part 2, then what was that in Part 1? I guess the real deal is in Part 2 and Naruto seems the most likely.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 03:53 AM

QUOTE (NaruSaku4Life3g @ Aug 20 2012, 11:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I heard that Kishi let one of his old editors to do that scene or something like that. If that's the case, it seems that Kishi never took that pairing as a the endgame, rather to break her down to be revived by Naruto. Kishi said he wants to do a romance in Part 2, then what was that in Part 1? I guess the real deal is in Part 2 and Naruto seems the most likely.

I heard that too, does anyone have a link or confirmation about that.

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 05:58 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Aug 20 2012, 11:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay, since things have been slow for the last couple of days, I have question for everyone. How many of us are still doubting that Narusaku will happen in the end, especially after everything we learned about Road to Ninja movie?



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I'm not but i'm still not going to rule out NaruHina and SasuSaku.


I'm curious if Naruhina and Sasusaku didn't have such a large fan base, will many of you still think that those other pairings will still have chance?

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 06:54 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Aug 21 2012, 01:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm curious if Naruhina and Sasusaku didn't have such a large fan base, will many of you still think that those other pairings will still have chance?

That's interesting. I don't really know myself. Maybe the popularity of the fan base does play a role in terms of war, because one would assume that the pairing is rather dead or even crack. It's funny that this kind of stuff actually happen in other anime/manga but for some reason, Naruto is a huge deal. I admit Kishi did make the whole love stuff interesting. Strangely enough, the true love battle is actually within Team 7 only. It just happen that in USA, it spread it to Hinata. Granted Hinata is popular in Japan, but it does feel like they don't go for NaruHina as much as we thought. NejiHina is getting more attention in there. In USA, incest isn't their thing, so it's hard for them to accept it. Much like Elfen Lied. Also, anime studio only push her, not the romantic of NaruHina. Maybe in the late part 1, but hey, fillers in part 1 were like free-for-all, it doesn't do any differences. I mean there were bunch of craziness, but I rest my case.

As for SasuSaku, I got no idea but if Twilight got popular, then I guess I know why. People often forget the development of part 1 flows. The last positive feedback for SasuSaku was way back in Chunnin Exam and hell, after that, it was all downhill. Actually, Sasuke hasn't show any positive feedback for Sakura after what, that genjutsu part. Last interaction was leave me alone part with the elimination match. To make matters worse, the end result of the arc was only feeding NaruSaku more by having Sasuke telling her the truth about who saved her from Gaara. So yeah, no more positive. If Sakura said, "You never talk to me," then you know it's a bad pairing to begin with. I don't like to sound very anti, but that's how Kishi portrays it.

I don't know how they got a large fan base, but that's okay. That said it doesn't change Kishi's plan on pairing and quite frankly, I don't think he cares like that. What set is set and we only waiting for that moment to arrive.




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