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Posted 01 February 2010 - 05:37 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 1 2010, 11:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@miss soupy,
SS fans enjoyed that, meaning Sakura is the only one, who can be with Sasuke, and no more Karin.

Recently, I have read some post from a SS fan. She states that in relating to the Popular Pairing and Hated Pairing, outside Japn, within Japan. SS is top 1. So it only means, it is both expected and then disappointed. rolleyes.gif
I have no problem with that, but she later stated that SS is the most controversial of all pairing, meaning from the events going on, it is all related to SS , and their main drive is Naruto himself, from his flashbacks. rolleyes.gif

so there is no real proff of anything

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 06:42 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 1 2010, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I know it annoys me when they compare confessions when they shouldn't in the first place. dry.gif They are still arguing 437 and yet it has been 43 chapters since her confession and still no answer from Naruto. its clear by now that Naruto doesn't love Hinata why can't they get it to their heads??? Kishi ended the whole N/H thing back at 450 with Hinata smiling at the N/S intimate hug. He even showed a sign that N/H died at 450 with 457 making Sai having that flashback that Naruto tells him that he can't confess to Sakura because of the promise of the life time (after Hinata's confession). sleep.gif

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Hinata was being selfish at 437 because she said it herself yet Sakura wasn't at her confession because she was thinking about Naruto's safety as well as Konoha's safety and not about Sasuke. If she was really selfish she wouldn't have said a word that she was going to talk to Naruto and let him continue suffering because of Sasuke and the promise.


If Naruto was thinking of Hinata, he would have seen her as soon as the Pain's invasion Arc had ended...instead he actually hanged with Sakura. [in which Sakura was trying to cheer him up, but in thought she wanted some cheering up as well]

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:05 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Feb 1 2010, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If Naruto was thinking of Hinata, he would have seen her as soon as the Pain's invasion Arc had ended...instead he actually hanged with Sakura. [in which Sakura was trying to cheer him up, but in thought she wanted some cheering up as well]


And he did if you remember 451 when Tazuna mentioned Sasuke and Naruto lied to him in a way to cheer Sakura up and he succeeded. Sakura smiled at him fondly thanking him mentally happy that he cheered her up this proves that Naruto knows her all too well and he read her mind again just like he did at ch 3 with the bench scene. However I believe Sakura was telling the truth about her confession she probably told him the real truth and yet she may still not know that she loves Naruto or she probably doesn't know how much she loves him yet. But she could also be confuse because she may still have some lingering feelings for Sasuke, I believe that right now Sakura is balancing those feelings on a scale in a way to finally make up her mind on which feelings she should choose. Or more precise who to choose? happy.gif

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 1 2010, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And he did if you remember 451 when Tazuna mentioned Sasuke and Naruto lied to him in a way to cheer Sakura up and he succeeded. Sakura smiled at him fondly thanking him mentally happy that he cheered her up this proves that Naruto knows her all too well and he read her mind again just like he did at ch 3 with the bench scene. However I believe Sakura was telling the truth about her confession she probably told him the real truth and yet she may still not know that she loves Naruto or she probably doesn't know how much she loves him yet. But she could also be confuse because she may still have some lingering feelings for Sasuke, I believe that right now Sakura is balancing those feelings on a scale in a way to finally make up her mind on which feelings she should choose. Or more precise who to choose? happy.gif


I just thought she didn't know on how to confront those feelings for him...after all they're fresh...But right now im ignoring NH...if NS becomes cannon, we can go and rub it in their faces >D

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 11:10 PM

And rub and rub it good:)

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Posted 01 February 2010 - 11:52 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 1 2010, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And he did if you remember 451 when Tazuna mentioned Sasuke and Naruto lied to him in a way to cheer Sakura up and he succeeded. Sakura smiled at him fondly thanking him mentally happy that he cheered her up this proves that Naruto knows her all too well and he read her mind again just like he did at ch 3 with the bench scene. However I believe Sakura was telling the truth about her confession she probably told him the real truth and yet she may still not know that she loves Naruto or she probably doesn't know how much she loves him yet. But she could also be confuse because she may still have some lingering feelings for Sasuke, I believe that right now Sakura is balancing those feelings on a scale in a way to finally make up her mind on which feelings she should choose. Or more precise who to choose? happy.gif

lol her feelings if much are going down the drain with sasuke

there is two much NS development NH is dead SS is not much better i can safely 0% happening sasuke would have to do a 180* in personality pluse he never liked her kish would have to pull it out of nowear wqitch i see no chance of kish said one cannon pairing i rest my case
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you mean like sakura mite not and jest tyring to protect him? not shure were you are going?

hears what i dont get kish said he was writeing a honest and determind girl


What I mean is that Sakura may know he loves her, but not the full extent. If you mean her loving Naruto, there's no doubt that she does, the only question is how much, and I think that she's starting to understand that she loves him in that romantic sense.

As for the honest and determined girl, I'd say yes, he is. Sakura has been forthcoming throughout Part II and doesn't try to hide who she is, and that she always has a clear goal in mind. With this in mind, I'd actually venture to say that it actually validates Sakura's confession. The fact of the matter is that she isn't the type to lie about things, and it explains why Naruto caught on that something was wrong, he knows her well enough to know when she's natural and not. Though he himself is stuck in the past, so... lol.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:29 AM

Hi fellow NaruSaku fan,

I'm a NaruSaku worshiper all the way, I sincerely believe that this couple have a better chance to become a canon. However, since I have a curious mind, I search for argument that prove that SasuSaku could work. I felt reckless so I decide to enter the enemy lair tongue.gif so I look in sites of pro SasuSaku to see if indeed I could find some proof, anything, to make me believe that SasuSaku could become canon. So far, all I could find is argument that are base in personal opinion over what they believe happen or could happen. Most argument are base in the first arc while we could presume future development for SasuSaku (even if I personally think that there are weak proof and doesn't prove any romantic feeling in both side).

I found a forum in fanfiction.net of a NaruSaku fan that ask to the SasuSaku fan WHY they think this couple would work. Read the essay made by -Blue-n-Pink-. There is two part of this essay, the first being in the first generation (like most of the argument found for SasuSaku) and the second in Shippuden arc (while the argument are more anti-NaruSaku). To me, it still didn't prove that this couple is more realistic that NaruSaku (in fact, I find some point hilarious, even some that could be well prove us right) but, I wish to share with you this and see what you guy might think.

http://forum.fanfict...292/10587452/1/

As for the NaruHina proof, I didn't yet search for it (mainly because I doubt that we could find real argument that prove that they can become a couple). I will be completely honest by saying that I once was a NaruHina fan (only idiot doesn't changes mind tongue.gif ). I found her cute the way she reacted when Naruto was around . I love Hinata and I have absolutely have nothing against her however, I realize that, while watching and reading the Shippuden arc, when Naruto meet Hinata for the first time since 3 years, while still find it cute the way she react, her shyness in front of Naruto was starting to get on my nerve. The only time that we can FINALLY see some backbone in Hinata is the well known chapter that make NaruHina fan prove that this couple will be official : Chapter 437. While NaruHina is cute in fanfiction, it is NOTHING compare to NaruSaku, both in anime and fanfic.

Anyway, I think that the real threat is coming from SasuSaku because Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are the principal character in the serie.

I will still continue searching for REAL FACT for both SasuSaku and NaruHina but, so far, the argument are much more realistic for NaruSaku happy.gif

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:47 AM

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Hi fellow NaruSaku fan,

I'm a NaruSaku worshiper all the way, I sincerely believe that this couple have a better chance to become a canon. However, since I have a curious mind, I search for argument that prove that SasuSaku could work. I felt reckless so I decide to enter the enemy lair tongue.gif so I look in sites of pro SasuSaku to see if indeed I could find some proof, anything, to make me believe that SasuSaku could become canon. So far, all I could find is argument that are base in personal opinion over what they believe happen or could happen. Most argument are base in the first arc while we could presume future development for SasuSaku (even if I personally think that there are weak proof and doesn't prove any romantic feeling in both side).

I found a forum in fanfiction.net of a NaruSaku fan that ask to the SasuSaku fan WHY they think this couple would work. Read the essay made by -Blue-n-Pink-. There is two part of this essay, the first being in the first generation (like most of the argument found for SasuSaku) and the second in Shippuden arc (while the argument are more anti-NaruSaku). To me, it still didn't prove that this couple is more realistic that NaruSaku but, I whish to share with you this and see what you guy might think.

http://forum.fanfict...292/10587452/1/

As for the NaruHina proof, I didn't yet search for it (mainly because I doubt that we could find real argument that prove that they can become a couple). I will be completely honest by saying that I once was a NaruHina fan (only idiot doesn't changes mind tongue.gif ). I found her cute the way she reacted when Naruto was around . I love Hinata and I have absolutely have nothing against her however, I realize that, while watching and reading the Shippuden arc, when Naruto meet Hinata for the first time since 3 years, while still find it cute the way she react, her shyness in front of Naruto was starting to get on my nerve. The only time that we can FINALLY see some backbone in Hinata is the well known chapter that make NaruHina fan prove that this couple will be official : Chapter 437. While NaruHina is cute in fanfiction, it is NOTHING compare to NaruSaku, both in anime and fanfic.

Anyway, I think that the real threat is coming from SasuSaku because Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura are the principal character in the serie.

I will still continue searching for REAL FACT for both SasuSaku and NaruHina but, so far, the argument are much more realistic for NaruSaku happy.gif

simple logic sasuke would have to do a 180* in personality pluse he never liked her kish would have to pull it out of nowear easy as that sasuke never liked her to me there is no SS its a crak pairing at best

to me NH had a bettere chance but it was settled in 450

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its going to be NS or nothing anymore

Edited by SS3 Goku, 02 February 2010 - 01:55 AM.


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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:49 AM

..^
I have kinda read some of those. dry.gif
SS if will become canon can affect NaruSaku just only friends, no romantic strings attached.? huh.gif and can sustain the SasuNaru friendship?
the first thing i had in mind is that Sasuke had no romantic interest towards Sakura. Second, even NS will happen, Sasuke and Naruto can also become friends.
The rant of that SS fan, is kinda most of his own interpretation, mainly concentraterd on the pairing, even it is so negative, he/she still wants to make way that SS is a postive/healthy pairing sleep.gif

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 02:11 AM

your write it would affect friend ship that post above is from twilightlink i can not see ss happening so im not worring.

I know sakuras conffeshon was real kish confirmed it and like cats i think chapter 3 will be brought back uo again thats were it started thats were it will end.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 03:45 AM

The writers grasping at straws. Most of her points are opinionated, and the things she tried to spin as Anti-NaruSaku are simply factious.

There was only one point I found interesting; in an early chapter, Sakura was hugging Sasuke, and he told her to GTFO.

In 172, after he woke up, she started again, but he didn't push her off.

Then Naruto was like "Sasuke...you..."

For all we know, Sakura may love Naruto know, and in the end Sasuke gives his own confession to Naruto Sakura.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:19 AM

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In 172, after he woke up, she started again, but he didn't push her off.


If you notice he's not really looking at Sakura, he's dazed and only semiconscious. Note, what happens the next time we see Sakura visiting Sasuke in the hospital, the infamous apple incident. Once he was fully conscious he was more hostile than ever to her.
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 05:49 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Feb 2 2010, 05:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you notice he's not really looking at Sakura, he's dazed and only semiconscious. Note, what happens the next time we see Sakura visiting Sasuke in the hospital, the infamous apple incident. Once he was fully conscious he was more hostile than ever to her.


Hey, I'm just grasping at straws here, and playing devils advocate a little...
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 09:28 AM

^^ My advocate?

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 11:30 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Feb 1 2010, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you notice he's not really looking at Sakura, he's dazed and only semiconscious. Note, what happens the next time we see Sakura visiting Sasuke in the hospital, the infamous apple incident. Once he was fully conscious he was more hostile than ever to her.


I know that's another excuse S/S fans believe that their pairing is canon the whole incident in the hospital. Sasuke just woken up after being traumatized by Itachi's Tsukuyomi he obviously didn't know what was going on or he didn't had the strength to push Sakura away. Also I noticed that on that forum thread they were relying on the first data books which they don't count since those data books it's all in the past they were about part 1. It's the most recent data book which counts the most I think Kishi is going to release the fourth data book by April or something like that I don't know. But anyway that scene when Sakura is selfishly hugging Sasuke and Naruto forcing a smile call me crazy but that scene looked more pro N/S than S/S because it shows that Naruto was able to let Sakura go for his best friend and rival even if it was killing him. The only thing that matters to him is seeing Sakura happy remembering what she told him back at ch 3 the bench scene that he was getting in her way and that he was annoying. I think from that moment on Naruto decided to step aside and let Sakura be with Sasuke this could be the reason why he still sees her as the 12 year old Sasuke fan girl in his eyes. happy.gif

In addition we can't forget one important point that N/H, S/S as well as N/S fans keep forgetting. That Kishi didn't intended to focus on romance in part 1 so all pairings development from N/S, N/H and S/S was all one sided. It was in part 2 that Kishi decided to focus on romance and make one canon pairing "with development" using the one sided development from part 1 as back up. So far the pairing with the most development is N/S if Kishi is planning to develop S/S and N/H he's a little late in the game because I doubt he will give 200+ chapters of development to those pairings like he has done with N/S. happy.gif

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 12:00 PM

..^awesome post Graven.. a_thumbs.gif
Is just me, but when Naruto's reaction in the hospital scene, kinda reminds me of how you can let of the someone you love, unselfishly and thinking her own happiness than your own. shamefulcry0js.gif

uhmmm anyhow, i remembered there was a scene in the hospital again, before when Naruto and Sasuke fight at rooftop, Naruto is teasing Sakura about Sasuke. I dont know if there is in the manga.

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 12:39 PM

QUOTE (pinkheartsyellowstars @ Feb 2 2010, 05:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..^awesome post Graven.. a_thumbs.gif
Is just me, but when Naruto's reaction in the hospital scene, kinda reminds me of how you can let of the someone you love, unselfishly and thinking her own happiness than your own. shamefulcry0js.gif

uhmmm anyhow, i remembered there was a scene in the hospital again, before when Naruto and Sasuke fight at rooftop, Naruto is teasing Sakura about Sasuke. I dont know if there is in the manga.


In truth Naruto is truly happy to see Sakura happy because her happiness is the only thing that matters to him, it's all part of his selfless nature. But the problem is that deep inside of him its really killing him slowly the pain of not having his feelings return by Sakura are tormenting him. Let's not forget that Naruto is a professional when it comes to hiding his pain and always covers it up with a fake smile (which is very convincing if I may add). However everyone has a limit and I believe Naruto's limit its finally reaching its end, it wouldn't surprise me that when he finally talks to Sakura about the decision to kill Sasuke he finally breaks down crying from hiding all that pain. Naruto needs to open his heart and let go of all that pain that he has been absorbing like a sponge absorbing water. I believe Sakura is the person who will take all that pain away from him I think she's the one who will save him from his suffering. wink.gif
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Posted 02 February 2010 - 01:25 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Feb 2 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In truth Naruto is truly happy to see Sakura happy because her happiness is the only thing that matters to him, it's all part of his selfless nature. But the problem is that deep inside of him its really killing him slowly the pain of not having his feelings return by Sakura are tormenting him. Let's not forget that Naruto is a professional when it comes to hiding his pain and always covers it up with a fake smile (which is very convincing if I may add). However everyone has a limit and I believe Naruto's limit its finally reaching its end, it wouldn't surprise me that when he finally talks to Sakura about the decision to kill Sasuke he finally breaks down crying from hiding all that pain. Naruto needs to open his heart and let go of all that pain that he has been absorbing like a sponge absorbing water. I believe Sakura is the person who will take all that pain away from him I think she's the one who will save him from his suffering. wink.gif


that already happen...

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Posted 02 February 2010 - 02:41 PM

the mentle breakdown he passes out

what did the last data book say on sakuras feelings and could they change

Edited by SS3 Goku, 02 February 2010 - 02:42 PM.


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Posted 02 February 2010 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Feb 2 2010, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that already happen...


Hmm....Naruto collapsing from hyperventilation happened because he was thinking about Sasuke not because of Sakura's feelings for him. I'm talking about him breaking down emotionally crying it might happen when he talks again with Sakura. They obviously need to sort things out between them.

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