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[Nostradamus]

I think you forgot she has also rinnegan and the chakra of god with the same sensorial ability type, she can easily sense that is a kagebushin but for some reason she cannot.

I dunno why, because it makes no sense.

Judging from what we've seen so far Kaguya is not to bright. Powerful yes, smart a definite no.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I see that many of you have forgotten the moral of Naruto or at least one of them, which is something I do remember as well as others on here as well at least I hope they do, and that is 'Revenge' and how it can be a bad thing and it leads to nothing but pain and being alone, but the other thing is Naruto is not the type of person to just kill everyone who is evil. Its not who Naruto is, I mean if that the kind of manga you want to read then I think that you guys may need to look somewhere else in which the her does kill the Villain.

 

All this will do will just leave you bitter inside and full of anger, which is not healthy in my eyes I mean if I killed someone that killed my family, would it bring them back would I have closure, no I wouldn't. even in a few other shows its stated that killing people will just take away the good person you are inside little by little until nothing is left, to quote the 10th Doctor

 

"Killing, after a while it infects and once it does your never rid of it." After all the way I say it, is once you kill an evil person who to say you won't do it again or again, then soon you will kill anyone who you think has done wrong even someone who would take food to feed his starving family.

 

Just remember killing is not always the answer in story telling, I know the world we all live in is messed up and we want sick people to die but we can't let that change the way we look at a show or Manga.

[luffyq1]

A lot of people defending Sakura on NF and that makes me 

[rocci]

@darkrest
She only use her own ability to fight them(byakugan and kaguya clan ability).
And the rinnegan ability she use is teleportation stuff.
She can't/doesn't use her rinnegan power just like naruto didn't fight all 6 path of pain, because naruto wouldn't win it.

[BlazingDynamo]

Even though this maybe their final mission there are still more questions that need to be answered in the manga if you guys know what I'm talking about?

[rocci]

Even though this maybe their final mission there are still more questions that need to be answered in the manga if you guys know what I'm talking about?

Hinata boob size? I want to know it too.

@luffy
Show me the post.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I see that many of you have forgotten the moral of Naruto or at least one of them, which is something I do remember as well as others on here as well at least I hope they do, and that is 'Revenge' and how it can be a bad thing and it leads to nothing but pain and being alone, but the other thing is Naruto is not the type of person to just kill everyone who is evil. Its not who Naruto is, I mean if that the kind of manga you want to read then I think that you guys may need to look somewhere else in which the her does kill the Villain.

Let's go then Revenge : Okay, first off let me start the theme is played convincing to you?
Naruto is hated by the whole village, he decides to be hokage and lead them, how it even makes sense?
Like you say Naruto is not the type of person who kills everyone on sight on rage, because he has no personality whatesover, he's still "innocent" in a way, his views are never challenged by the cruelty of the world.
Like the othe characters.
"Let me kill someome important to you"
He kills off Neji a guy like he barely talked with.
 

All this will do will just leave you bitter inside and full of anger, which is not healthy in my eyes I mean if I killed someone that killed my family, would it bring them back would I have closure, no I wouldn't. even in a few other shows its stated that killing people will just take away the good person you are inside little by little until nothing is left, to quote the 10th Doctor

Revenge lead to negative consequences because it was bad played, Sasuke let himself be manipulated and had no logically explained of why he didnt come back to the village after he "killed" Orochimaru and was after Itachi.
 
 

Just remember killing is not always the answer in story telling, I know the world we all live in is messed up and we want sick people to die but we can't let that change the way we look at a show or Manga.

It doesnt matter, that's not the moral of the story, the revenge theme is bad played and the main character unrealistically and unlogically chose the good path and has no counter-arguments on Sasuke, he never won a single speech against Sasuke's fallacies.
He kept saying about his friendship and his bond with Sasuke and reminding him that being alone is painfull.
Naruto is a guy that simply chose to ignore his own problems and run away from himself the whole manga, and this path was only visited when he faced himself in the waterfall and is still bad played once again.
He had people like him around the world, the village had betrayed him, the people he trusted never told him about who his parents where, his teacher Kakashi never bothered to train him on part 1.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 20 August 2014 - 11:31 PM.

[luffyq1]

Hinata boob size? I want to know it too.

@luffy
Show me the post.

There are tons of post praising and defending Sakura, but this one stands out to me the most on NF.

 

The Obito power-up bull kitten made me see Kakashi is a new light. 

Prior to this whole war, I always held Kakashi in high regard because he was always a genius.

When he lost the sharingan and felt helpless, I hoped Kishi would bring him back to his basics--the days before he got the sharingan. Before the sharingan, he was still a genius. He was still fast enough to reach the level where he could invent chidori. He still became a chunin at 6 and jounin at 12. 

The sharingan, I thought, just enhanced his power. Now he could copy jutsus and predict an opponent's movements. And of course, perform kamui.

Then we got to the war where he lost the eye and he couldn't do anything without the eye. He became useless. He became nothing. What happened to the Kakashi who existed before the sharingan? Had he really become nothing without BORROWED power?

now that he regained Obito's powers he's stepping up with strategies and leading the team again. As if he only regained his confidence after reacquiring the borrowed power. As if his self worth is based on this borrowed power. Where were his analytics without the eye? IDK man. I'm just disappointed. 

Now look at Sakura. She's the ONLY member of team 7 without some form of power from an outside source. She trained her ass off to become powerful and now look at her. By her own devices, she's now at the level where she can help save the world and defeat a friggin God.

If she never does anything else in the series, you've got to hand it to Sakura that she never wallowed in self pity and sat around waiting for a bull kitten power up to contribute. Even when Sasuke shat on her and when she felt sad, she still swallowed her tears and said, "It's ok. I'm fine." And she always stepped up to help in any little way she could. And now look at her. She landed a blow on Kaguya and put her in position to possibly be sealed (that obviously remains to be seen.)

My respect for Kakashi has greatly diminished but increased for Sakura.

Yea she's hella annoying sometimes and I've certainly shat on her in the past, but no one can take the fact that she's the ONLY member of team 7 who wholey earned her power.

 

[Nostradamus]

A lot of people defending Sakura on NF and that makes me 

That's bizarre, I'm used to hear people bashing Sakura. What's with the sudden change of heart? Did people start to see that Sasuke is not so great as they believed? Or is this a one time deal?

[Swagkura]

Sakura Haruno: The Cherry Blossom Queen 

Source: http://entous-art.tumblr.com/

[luffyq1]

That's bizarre, I'm used to hear people bashing Sakura. What's with the sudden change of heart? Did people start to see that Sasuke is not so great as they believed? Or is this a one time deal?

It's been going on for a while now. There are a lot of posts also saying how Sasuke is useless. Lots of "Sasuke has been trolled" threads on NF lol.

Edited by luffyq1, 20 August 2014 - 11:34 PM.

[BlazingDynamo]

Hinata boob size? I want to know it too.

@luffy
Show me the post.

Ha no by questions and answers I mean by this. What is Sasuke's true goal? Will Minato have some last words to say to Naruto before he disappears? Will Naruto keep his promise to Sakura? What will the 4 Hokages do?

[Nostradamus]

It's been going on for a while now. There are a lot of posts also saying how Sasuke is useless. Lots of "Sasuke has been trolled" threads on NF lol.

That's good to hear. Finally people started to see the light.

[TheFirstEvil100]

I actually think the ship has sailed on sustained relevance. The issue is as you say. He either has to be powering her up (which I don't think he is) or avoided doing that to her teammates. I think the real issue is with them. He's completely lost control over their power levels and put them up on a pedastool so high no one can realistically keep up without major WTF moments. However, Sakura has no obvious avenue for that unless she is suddenly the reincarnation of some other old fart. It was a bad plot line when it came in, it'd still be bad with her and she'd lose the normal girl angle.

I see no obvious solution to this that doesn't crap all over the plot.

She feels like a character he wants to have around and use, but has no idea what to do with her because of where he has written himself. There are times (like saving Naruto) where he comes across as having distinct goals for her and there is stuff like this where he seems desperate to do something, anything to keep her around.

It reminds of of Gundam SEEDS treatment of Flay Allster (where the author admitted he didn't know what to do with her). Hopefully, he doesn't take that authors way out.

Oh don't remind me of that show, while I like it I hate how it was done people complain about Naruto, yeah watch that show its very bad how he done it treated half the characters badly like Flay.

 

Usually whenever I see sawyer7mage's reviews I laughed at his humor and sarcasm. But NOT with his 689 review I actually got angry. He started good I laughed, that is until he brought Sakura. When he mentioned Sakura charging at Kaguya from above he said" shanaro p*ssy power" I am not making this up, he really said that. Then he made a reference to the powerpuff girls about cherry blossoms, sugar, spice well you got the idea. He basically mocked Sakura's and her strenght like " yeah right like she'll be able to hurt Kaguya". Point is it wasn't funny, it was stupid and I got p*ssed. For once just ONCE I really wish people would appreciate Sakura's efforts whether they're big or small instead calling her useless all the time. I'm not asking that she gets the "Goddess treatment" like Hinata I just want some acknowledgment like" Sakura managed to land a hit on Kaguya when she couldn't do such against Madara, good work Sakura" but NO it always lead to the same negative and bashing when she doesn't deserve it.

Oh tell me about it people can't seem to give it to here I mean come on after a while it gets old very fast but in the end people like that may never find true love.

[Naruko]

 

 

Not defending Sasuke(which obviously is not having a major spotlight because it always happened like that when Naruto and Sasuke fought together) here but i think it's a proof of a character being overrated, a while ago in a matter of 10 chapters she was put in a damsel in distress 3 times and needed to be saved.

She suddenly becomes such usefull by landing a single hit on Kaguya on a strategy made by Kakashi while on his Susano'o.

I sincerely dont know.

 

No. She is that lot useful because despite being saved, she saved both Naruto and Sasuke, helped on Obito's redemption AND gave that punch that made Sasuke and Naruto able  to at least touch Kaguya. We can easily say if it wasn't for her, everyone would be dead now. How about Sasuke? Who has he saved? How would things be if it wasn't for him? Sure better than without Sakura.

[sushi.]

That's bizarre, I'm used to hear people bashing Sakura. What's with the sudden change of heart? Did people start to see that Sasuke is not so great as they believed? Or is this a one time deal?

I suppose there are rational people in the world. I think the only ones left who hate her are those who really just want to.

Edited by sushi., 20 August 2014 - 11:45 PM.

[luffyq1]

I suppose there are rational people in the world. I think the only ones left who hate her are those who really just want to.

Pretty much. I feel that the Sakura hate trend is slowing dying, especially after this chapter. If Kishi keeps this up the Sakura haters will be the minority.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Pretty much. I feel that the Sakura hate trend is slowing dying, especially after this chapter. If Kishi keeps this up the Sakura haters will be the minority.

Oh there are still a few and sadly they will always hate her, I mean I can say I hate very few characters.

 

In Naruto I just hate Sasuke and the way he treats everyone.

In Pokemon I hate Paul, Camron and Iris  that its really 

[Naruko]

Pretty much. I feel that the Sakura hate trend is slowing dying, especially after this chapter. If Kishi keeps this up the Sakura haters will be the minority.

 

I'm glad Kishi realized the potential of her character and that it is possible to reverse her previous bad popularity. He's not making her say lots of "Sasuke-kuns" anymore and he is exploring her abilities, which is something that was left behind before because of her so hated "obsession on Sasuke" and "uselessness". Now she has been showing caring a lot about Naruto and with a lot of the great strong attitude she always had. 

Edited by Naruko, 21 August 2014 - 12:01 AM.

[Hiraishin]

 BZ is no better either  for the whole time he's like  Momy this and Momy that , my Momy  is so strong Momy Momy Momy Momy...........  and I'm like for crying out loud you big baby just shut the kitten up already with your Momy wanking   .

truuuu. world's worst tag team.