I was to say older naruto, he seems to be like in his 30

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#341
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:52 PM
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#342
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:52 PM
Sorry to say it but... you cannot actually say covers mean nothing. Look at the last cover ... A short respite from an arduous journey which was the cover before they got to Kaguya's world. The design of the cover was a short description of what was about to come: Team 7 going to Kaguya's dimensions, Sakura holding onto Naruto pointing towards the castle which in manga was traduced as Sakura working together with Naruto to get Sasuke back, Sasuke was far-away looking at his bow like he was out of the picture which in the manga was traduced as Sasuke being thrown off in the separate dimension and Kakashi in the back just standing there doing nothing which represented in the manga as he currently was: uncapable of helping in any way.
So covers DO tell something and I'm sorry to say it but the truth here is that Kishi is screwing-up his own writing. And all for what? For ship tease and all that kitten?
Why couldn't have he made Sakura stay on a separate horse like the others? I am not bothered by his drawing per se, I am bothered by its representation and the way he is contradicting his own manga and ruining some development and its image.
How the hell can you tell me that, as a new reader, you're supposed to pick-up that Sakura has no feelings for Sasuke when he draws her blushing? Come on, let's not try to find the man excuses anymore. In the end, in this whole pathetic war between fans, he does have its guilt. Things could've been made differently and we all know it.
And I would say more but... I think I'm gonna stop here because idk if people will really understand that this trespasses the innocent play with pairings, it's about consistency at this point. It all kittening went downhill after Pein Arc. But meh, I digress...
Unfortunately I can't rep you I'm out of likes but what you said is the truth . People just don't understand us when we say that Kishi inconsistent in his writing and how much of a BS is that he painted Sakura here as Sasuke centric that's not her character since early P1 and its wrong since this is a visual media and as such people are gonna think of her like that and bc of this Sakura and NS losses credibility all for the purpose of teasing the parings which is BS since NS has so much development and is foreshadowed to go canon .

" I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come."
#344
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:54 PM
did u put this image because sasuke cant love sakura ,or because even if he starts loving her sk and ns wont be screwed?
It is out of character for Sasuke to think about Sakura(or any female character) in a romantic light.
All he cares about is power and sleeping with Naruto.
I will not let you stand alone anymore...
I will protect that smiling face.
#345
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:54 PM
I don't think those AU illustrations have any message to transmit at all. They're just drawings.
It's just the team 7, all together, growed up, but with the classic style of behaving, like anything never have happened. And this isn't old for us, is it? Kishimoto always had been presenting to us images like that... If they have interactions between characters or not, what does it matters?
Again, Kishimoto is free to draw anything he wants to.
Just focus on the story itself and everything will be ok. :)
Edited by Ausakura, 23 July 2014 - 03:56 PM.
#346
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:54 PM
Cover pages have nothing, nada, 0, to do with the storyThe chapter was fine. However, the SS cover ruined it for me. SS/NH are confirmed in my head now and I'm starting to lose hope.
You people are overreacting and jumping into conclusions so quick
#347
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:57 PM
Also...
I will not let you stand alone anymore...
I will protect that smiling face.
#348
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:57 PM
I was to say older naruto, he seems to be like in his 30
So it's just your personal assumption? Does the sketch not mention anything about Naruto looking different?
#349
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:58 PM
so did you have lost faith on NS, chatte?
No, I haven't lost faith in NS, I said this multiple times. My pet-peeve is with how Kishi chooses to screw with NaruSaku's image, that's all. As well with Sakura's image, because as I said multiple times, before being a fan of NS I am a fan of Sakura.
So let's take this on turns: Sakura is the heroine of this manga, right? Then why have her shown just riding on the back while the others do the action? When was the last time we had a cool cover with her showing some cool action, like it happens when it comes to Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi? No, she's just there to be pretty eyes, sometimes damsel in distress. Why not have her riding her own horse and shooting motherf***ing ninjas or whatever, like the others? What's she's not deemable? All that it is to her is a background? Does she need rescue all the time? Why it has to be always at Sakura's expense? And we wonder ourselves why 99.99% of this fandom considers her useless.
Moving onto NaruSaku: yes, we have all that development, not negating it. Beautiful, indeed, however, it has to be all under the "underneath the underneath", all subtle while with the others it has to be with romantic insinuations that aren't that hard to pick. Now tell me, as a new reader and as a child-teenage boy or girl, how can you tell that NaruSaku is gonna be the end game when it was all done like this? In a complicated way. Why can't their moments be slightly more simpler to understand? Or even hint. I am not saying he has to unravel all, but make the hints easier to perceive, especially if you're planning to make that pairing canon. I mean, the other fandoms, non-shippers even, always say that NaruSaku's moments don't seem romantic. They do recognize Sakura's faith and devotion with Naruto but you see, in the romantic department it's rarely you'll have a positive reaction, so to speak, if it isn't downright in their faces. And we wonder ourselves why the others brand it as just "friendship" moments. Well, there you have it.
I know Kishi portrays the mature type of love when it comes to NaruSaku, but you see, his target audience isn't that mature. If you want to make it credible, make it at their own level. Make it believable. Donțt just jump off the gun. Look at Sakura's confession, now after so many years. Even if Kishi said he felt he was portraying an honest girl, did someone gave a kitten, excuse my language? No. Why? It's not that hard to understand why, when he portrays her the way he does. He makes her confess to Naruto and then have Sai saying she's killing Sasuke out of love. The target audience isn't at the level to be able to distinguish between the real, mature love and the less mature love, the "facet" love.
Meh, dunno if I make any sense, I did have lots of no sleep and I might be hard to express myself, but I hope you guys understood. I am planning on writing a new post soon anyway, trying to explain myself better.
Unfortunately I can't rep you I'm out of likes but what you said is the truth . People just don't understand us when we say that Kishi inconsistent in his writing and how much of a BS is that he painted Sakura here as Sasuke centric that's not her character since early P1 and its wrong since this is a visual media and as such people are gonna think of her like that and bc of this Sakura and NS losses credibility all for the purpose of teasing the parings which is BS since NS has so much development and is foreshadowed to go canon .
Exactly, this manga is first and foremost a visual medium, people will perceive what they see and sorry to say it but the color images will always have a greater impact than black and white ones. And before people actually open the manga itself, the first that will have an impact on the reader is the cover art int he beginning.
Maybe I'm this way because I've been in this media business for quite sometime now...Sometimes a bliss, sometimes a curse.
Yes you're free, I'm not even discussing it. I hope this is clear from what I said.
I'm just disappointed that so much or the readers got touched this much by this little cover.
I am as well but I can't really blame them either... It's hard not to do so when the author itself is joggling with these stuff.
Like I said, my problem is not with the cover itself, it's with the depiction of the cover. But meh, I better shut up... People are already down, me rambling about it won't help that much...
Edited by Chatte, 23 July 2014 - 04:04 PM.
#350
Posted 23 July 2014 - 03:58 PM
It is out of character for Sasuke to think about Sakura(or any female character) in a romantic light.
All he cares about is power and sleeping with Naruto.
i agree but you see my post was directed to someone who considered this possibility..i dont consider sasuke ever falling in love for sakura because it would be BS and without any logic..he didnt ''loved '' her back then,why he would start now?
sasuke is prety much assexual right now but maybe he needs to find the right girl to fall in love
#351
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:02 PM
Can't wait for Obito to say goodbye.. forever.
#352
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:03 PM
No, I haven't lost faith in NS, I said this multiple times. My pet-peeve is with how Kishi chooses to screw with NaruSaku's image, that's all. As well with Sakura's image, because as I said multiple times, before being a fan of NS I am a fan of Sakura.
So let's take this on turns: Sakura is the heroine of this manga, right? Then why have her shown just riding on the back while the others do the action? When was the last time we had a cool cover with her showing some cool action, like it happens when it comes to Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi? No, she's just there to be pretty eyes, sometimes damsel in distress. Why not have her riding her own horse and shooting motherf***ing ninjas or whatever, like the others? What's she's not deemable? All that it is to her is a background? Does she need rescue all the time? Why it has to be always at Sakura's expense? And we wonder ourselves why 99.99% of this fandom considers her useless.
Moving onto NaruSaku: yes, we have all that development, not negating it. Beautiful, indeed, however, it has to be all under the "underneath the underneath", all subtle while with the others it has to be with romantic insinuations that aren't that hard to pick. Now tell me, as a new reader and as a child-teenage boy or girl, how can you tell that NaruSaku is gonna be the end game when it was all done like this? In a complicated way. Why can't their moments be slightly more simpler to understand? Or even hint. I am not saying he has to unravel all, but make the hints easier to perceive, especially if you're planning to make that pairing canon. I mean, the other fandoms, non-shippers even, always say that NaruSaku's moments don't seem romantic. They do recognize Sakura's faith and devotion with Naruto but you see, in the romantic department it's rarely you'll have a positive reaction, so to speak, if it isn't downright in their faces. And we wonder ourselves why the others brand it as just "friendship" moments. Well, there you have it.
I know Kishi portrays the mature type of love when it comes to NaruSaku, but you see, his target audience isn't that mature. If you want to make it credible, make it at their own level. Make it believable. Donțt just jump off the gun. Look at Sakura's confession, now after so many years. Even if Kishi said he felt he was portraying an honest girl, did someone gave a kitten, excuse my language? No. Why? It's not that hard to understand why, when he portrays her the way he does. He makes her confess to Naruto and then have Sai saying she's killing Sasuke out of love. The target audience isn't at the level to be able to distinguish between the real, mature love and the less mature love, the "facet" love.Meh, dunno if I make any sense, I did have lots of no sleep and I might be hard to express myself, but I hope you guys understood. I am planning on writing a new post soon anyway, trying to explain myself better.
Exactly, this manga is first and foremost a visual medium, people will perceive what they see and sorry to say it but the color images will always have a greater impact than black and white ones. And before people actually open the manga itself, the first that will have an impact on the reader is the cover art int he beginning.
Maybe I'm this way because I've been in this media business for quite sometime now...Sometimes a bliss, sometimes a curse.
can i just...aplause?
i know i had a little argument with you some weeks ago but i can agree with your posts today 100 % because i think the same
#353
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:05 PM
No, I haven't lost faith in NS, I said this multiple times. My pet-peeve is with how Kishi chooses to screw with NaruSaku's image, that's all. As well with Sakura's image, because as I said multiple times, before being a fan of NS I am a fan of Sakura.
So let's take this on turns: Sakura is the heroine of this manga, right? Then why have her shown just riding on the back while the others do the action? When was the last time we had a cool cover with her showing some cool action, like it happens when it comes to Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi? No, she's just there to be pretty eyes, sometimes damsel in distress. Why not have her riding her own horse and shooting motherf***ing ninjas or whatever, like the others? What's she's not deemable? All that it is to her is a background? Does she need rescue all the time? Why it has to be always at Sakura's expense? And we wonder ourselves why 99.99% of this fandom considers her useless.
Moving onto NaruSaku: yes, we have all that development, not negating it. Beautiful, indeed, however, it has to be all under the "underneath the underneath", all subtle while with the others it has to be with romantic insinuations that aren't that hard to pick. Now tell me, as a new reader and as a child-teenage boy or girl, how can you tell that NaruSaku is gonna be the end game when it was all done like this? In a complicated way. Why can't their moments be slightly more simpler to understand? Or even hint. I am not saying he has to unravel all, but make the hints easier to perceive, especially if you're planning to make that pairing canon. I mean, the other fandoms, non-shippers even, always say that NaruSaku's moments don't seem romantic. They do recognize Sakura's faith and devotion with Naruto but you see, in the romantic department it's rarely you'll have a positive reaction, so to speak, if it isn't downright in their faces. And we wonder ourselves why the others brand it as just "friendship" moments. Well, there you have it.
I know Kishi portrays the mature type of love when it comes to NaruSaku, but you see, his target audience isn't that mature. If you want to make it credible, make it at their own level. Make it believable. Donțt just jump off the gun. Look at Sakura's confession, now after so many years. Even if Kishi said he felt he was portraying an honest girl, did someone gave a kitten, excuse my language? No. Why? It's not that hard to understand why, when he portrays her the way he does. He makes her confess to Naruto and then have Sai saying she's killing Sasuke out of love. The target audience isn't at the level to be able to distinguish between the real, mature love and the less mature love, the "facet" love.Meh, dunno if I make any sense, I did have lots of no sleep and I might be hard to express myself, but I hope you guys understood. I am planning on writing a new post soon anyway, trying to explain myself better.
Exactly, this manga is first and foremost a visual medium, people will perceive what they see and sorry to say it but the color images will always have a greater impact than black and white ones. And before people actually open the manga itself, the first that will have an impact on the reader is the cover art int he beginning.
Maybe I'm this way because I've been in this media business for quite sometime now...Sometimes a bliss, sometimes a curse.
I understand what you're coming from, and I understand why you're pissed.
But I think Kishimoto doesn't want the average young boy to guess NaruSaku. I think he wants to surprise the readers.
Edited by Otaru, 23 July 2014 - 04:06 PM.
#354
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:05 PM
Isn't that the beauty? If you know the truth, you can say "I told you so"No, I haven't lost faith in NS, I said this multiple times. My pet-peeve is with how Kishi chooses to screw with NaruSaku's image, that's all. As well with Sakura's image, because as I said multiple times, before being a fan of NS I am a fan of Sakura.
So let's take this on turns: Sakura is the heroine of this manga, right? Then why have her shown just riding on the back while the others do the action? When was the last time we had a cool cover with her showing some cool action, like it happens when it comes to Naruto, Sasuke and Kakashi? No, she's just there to be pretty eyes, sometimes damsel in distress. Why not have her riding her own horse and shooting motherf***ing ninjas or whatever, like the others? What's she's not deemable? All that it is to her is a background? Does she need rescue all the time? Why it has to be always at Sakura's expense? And we wonder ourselves why 99.99% of this fandom considers her useless.
Moving onto NaruSaku: yes, we have all that development, not negating it. Beautiful, indeed, however, it has to be all under the "underneath the underneath", all subtle while with the others it has to be with romantic insinuations that aren't that hard to pick. Now tell me, as a new reader and as a child-teenage boy or girl, how can you tell that NaruSaku is gonna be the end game when it was all done like this? In a complicated way. Why can't their moments be slightly more simpler to understand? Or even hint. I am not saying he has to unravel all, but make the hints easier to perceive, especially if you're planning to make that pairing canon. I mean, the other fandoms, non-shippers even, always say that NaruSaku's moments don't seem romantic. They do recognize Sakura's faith and devotion with Naruto but you see, in the romantic department it's rarely you'll have a positive reaction, so to speak, if it isn't downright in their faces. And we wonder ourselves why the others brand it as just "friendship" moments. Well, there you have it.
I know Kishi portrays the mature type of love when it comes to NaruSaku, but you see, his target audience isn't that mature. If you want to make it credible, make it at their own level. Make it believable. Donțt just jump off the gun. Look at Sakura's confession, now after so many years. Even if Kishi said he felt he was portraying an honest girl, did someone gave a kitten, excuse my language? No. Why? It's not that hard to understand why, when he portrays her the way he does. He makes her confess to Naruto and then have Sai saying she's killing Sasuke out of love. The target audience isn't at the level to be able to distinguish between the real, mature love and the less mature love, the "facet" love.
Meh, dunno if I make any sense, I did have lots of no sleep and I might be hard to express myself, but I hope you guys understood. I am planning on writing a new post soon anyway, trying to explain myself better.
Exactly, this manga is first and foremost a visual medium, people will perceive what they see and sorry to say it but the color images will always have a greater impact than black and white ones. And before people actually open the manga itself, the first that will have an impact on the reader is the cover art int he beginning.
Maybe I'm this way because I've been in this media business for quite sometime now...Sometimes a bliss, sometimes a curse.
Plus I think Kishi really loves to trick his fans, he's been doing it for a long time now
#355
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:06 PM
Why can't we get a NaruSaku cover page :(
NaruHina got one, and now SasuSaku, but no NaruSaku...
#356
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:08 PM
The chapter was fine. However, the SS cover ruined it for me. SS/NH are confirmed in my head now and I'm starting to lose hope.
I feel the same, even tho i dont want to I think that NaruSaku is pretty much done... at least Kakashi didin't die ahah, loosing my favorite pairing and favorite character in the same chapter would have been to much
#357
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:09 PM
can i just...aplause?
i know i had a little argument with you some weeks ago but i can agree with your posts today 100 % because i think the same
Haha, thanks dear! Well, I personally, without sounding all mighty or anything, I do know when it's safe to keep your head high and when it's safe to be well.. on the safe side. Not saying others don't or that I'm better, but sometimes, the crazyness that's going around it is with a substance. BUt anyway, I really should stop talking as I don't like the sense I'm making myself either. I know what i have in my head, but in the expressing department, I am not doing that well today. Hell of a week to get no sleep, lol.
I understand what you're coming from, and I understand why you're pissed.
But I think Kishimoto doesn't want the average young boy to guess NaruSaku. I think he wants to surprise the readers.
And I understand he doesn't want, after all, that's where the mystery lies, but don't push it more than it is necessary, you know, or else you loose credibility and then wonder why people tell you Hinata would make a better heroine than Sakura and that Sakura is lying to Naruto and all that.
He is doing this with his own hands.
Isn't that the beauty? If you know the truth, you can say "I told you so"
Plus I think Kishi really loves to trick his fans, he's been doing it for a long time now.
But I'm not interested in telling others I told you so. I am interested in others understanding the manga and from where it comes from, even if it wasn't down right in their faces, know what i mean?
And yes, he really loves to do that, he said so in the Kizuna interview, but when this comes at the expense of characters and the story, it's not that interesting anymore...
Edited by Chatte, 23 July 2014 - 04:12 PM.
#358
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:10 PM
Sorry to say it but... you cannot actually say covers mean nothing. Look at the last cover ... A short respite from an arduous journey which was the cover before they got to Kaguya's world. The design of the cover was a short description of what was about to come: Team 7 going to Kaguya's dimensions, Sakura holding onto Naruto pointing towards the castle which in manga was traduced as Sakura working together with Naruto to get Sasuke back, Sasuke was far-away looking at his bow like he was out of the picture which in the manga was traduced as Sasuke being thrown off in the separate dimension and Kakashi in the back just standing there doing nothing which represented in the manga as he currently was: uncapable of helping in any way.
So covers DO tell something and I'm sorry to say it but the truth here is that Kishi is screwing-up his own writing. And all for what? For ship tease and all that kitten?
Why couldn't have he made Sakura stay on a separate horse like the others? I am not bothered by his drawing per se, I am bothered by its representation and the way he is contradicting his own manga and ruining some development and its image.
How the hell can you tell me that, as a new reader, you're supposed to pick-up that Sakura has no feelings for Sasuke when he draws her blushing? Come on, let's not try to find the man excuses anymore. In the end, in this whole pathetic war between fans, he does have its guilt. Things could've been made differently and we all know it.
And I would say more but... I think I'm gonna stop here because idk if people will really understand that this trespasses the innocent play with pairings, it's about consistency at this point. It all kittening went downhill after Pein Arc. But meh, I digress...
Yeah i think you're reading to much into it. I mean honestly if we are to take your logic of covers having foreshadowing elements that will happen in the manga then it would appear Team 7 is gonna be in an AU where they're riding horses, wearing cowboy hats and firing revolvers. Sorry but i can't see that happening in the manga. This is just Kishi having some fun with his characters and giving some fan service to SS fans. Yeah he's teasing us. He's fully aware of the pairing wars and is exploiting that.
Honestly i would understand the commotion if Sakura blushed when she was held by Sasuke in the manga but this is a freaking cover art.
If he wanted to let Sakura regress as a character then why didn't he make her blush and fangirl over Sasuke when he catched her in the manga ?
Why ? Because he has no intention of doing so.
#360
Posted 23 July 2014 - 04:12 PM
kitten move for Kishi to have a cover that trumps the NS one right after an SS moment
Dunno why people are making a big deal out of Sakura blushing this time. Where was this concern during 632 at this point in time Sasuke was thought of to be a good guy
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